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cel's new td formestane/xtren+some goodies[sponsored]

DormantFiber said:
thats pretty encouraging I have only 1 ph cycle under my belt and one of the down sides of it was the kick in time, for me it took 3 weeks to kick in, it lasted well in to pct but 3 weeks is a long time when you want to feel results right away ;)

I'll be reading your log carefully and so far I like what it see :thumbsup:
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i know what you are saying, 4th week is when i normally see significant weight gain. from what i have read, weight gains come quick on xtren and recomp/strength come later. my shoulders/chest and arms are swole but i am carrying extra weight in my gut-had to pull a little to get to normal belt hole.
 
starting to look and feel more solid in gut area. libido was up this weekend, probably due to more rest and sleep. grilled salmon and sirloins, almost affraid what weight will be at work tonight,lol. btw helped my son move out on sat. the boxes felt mush lighter than i expected. went up another 10 pounds on bp in basement.
 
i am amazed, weight is down a pound. i usually gain a pound or 2 every weekend when i am relaxing around the house i tend to eat more. i am noticing more fullness and tone, maybe sometime away from work was really needed. libido even went up. still dosing 3 caps=90mg of xtren/2pumps 2xday td formestane. no real sides to report bp is still within normal range, may go to 4 caps next week.
 
thebigt said:
i am amazed, weight is down a pound. i usually gain a pound or 2 every weekend when i am relaxing around the house i tend to eat more. i am noticing more fullness and tone, maybe sometime away from work was really needed. libido even went up. still dosing 3 caps=90mg of xtren/2pumps 2xday td formestane. no real sides to report bp is still within normal range, may go to 4 caps next week.
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Hey TheBigT,

Just wanted to update you on my past few days' experience. I decided to start tapering down my cycle to only 60mg/day of Tren and 75mg/day of Formex. I'm also taking ZMA at night now, along with my normal dosages of AI Cycle Support.

I previously had some issues with really sensitive nipples and even a burning irritability throughout the day pretty much all last week. Once I upped my dose on Formex the symptoms went away. No burning, no sensitivity, no nothing as of right now! I also put on another 1.5lbs over the weekend, and this was taking only 60mg of Tren/day. I figured I'm just too small to really need 90mg the whole way through.

Friday I'm going to shoot for 265lbs on bench press, 300lbs on squat, 315lbs on dead-lifts, and 105lbs for curls. I'll let you know how this goes.
 
thebigt said:
starting to look and feel more solid in gut area. libido was up this weekend, probably due to more rest and sleep. grilled salmon and sirloins, almost affraid what weight will be at work tonight,lol. btw helped my son move out on sat. the boxes felt mush lighter than i expected. went up another 10 pounds on bp in basement.
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thats gotta be biter sweet about your son moving out, in one hand you'll probably have a free room and in the other hand you'll be missing your father and son time! good update though!

thebigt said:
i am amazed, weight is down a pound. i usually gain a pound or 2 every weekend when i am relaxing around the house i tend to eat more. i am noticing more fullness and tone, maybe sometime away from work was really needed. libido even went up. still dosing 3 caps=90mg of xtren/2pumps 2xday td formestane. no real sides to report bp is still within normal range, may go to 4 caps next week.
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where do you apply this td form? is there some better absorption body parts? i've been thinking about this for some time but have no clue!
 
DormantFiber said:
thats gotta be biter sweet about your son moving out, in one hand you'll probably have a free room and in the other hand you'll be missing your father and son time! good update though!



where do you apply this td form? is there some better absorption body parts? i've been thinking about this for some time but have no clue!
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thanks man, you are right about my son, gonna miss having him around. td form can be applied to chest, inside thighs, back or shoulders, and some really good ones are behind knees and tops of feet. try to hit chest at least 3xweek, the effect on nips is almost immediate-gives you the 'wet' look.
 
fueledpassion said:
Hey TheBigT,

Just wanted to update you on my past few days' experience. I decided to start tapering down my cycle to only 60mg/day of Tren and 75mg/day of Formex. I'm also taking ZMA at night now, along with my normal dosages of AI Cycle Support.

I previously had some issues with really sensitive nipples and even a burning irritability throughout the day pretty much all last week. Once I upped my dose on Formex the symptoms went away. No burning, no sensitivity, no nothing as of right now! I also put on another 1.5lbs over the weekend, and this was taking only 60mg of Tren/day. I figured I'm just too small to really need 90mg the whole way through.

Friday I'm going to shoot for 265lbs on bench press, 300lbs on squat, 315lbs on dead-lifts, and 105lbs for curls. I'll let you know how this goes.
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great numbers for your size, congrats. ive started taking vitex to prevent the nip thing-eric at pp really recommends this. i have been using formestane since before starting cycle, and haven't noticed this yet. btw i prefer td formestane because i feel the effects are much stronger+ i can apply direct to chest 'nipples'. it really dries my nips out, gives them the 'wet' look.
 
starting tonight i am back on 12's, in an attempt to improve my nutrition while at work i have added golden gains by controlled labs. will continue to drink my protien shakes in my big 64 oz colts mug. at 3 am i will add 3 scoops of goden gains and see what this wil do for my recomp, strength.
 
weight was up 2 pounds, bp was close to normal and felt good at work. no lethargy so far, if anything i had lots of energy.
 
thebigt said:
great numbers for your size, congrats. ive started taking vitex to prevent the nip thing-eric at pp really recommends this. i have been using formestane since before starting cycle, and haven't noticed this yet. btw i prefer td formestane because i feel the effects are much stronger+ i can apply direct to chest 'nipples'. it really dries my nips out, gives them the 'wet' look.
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Does NP sell the td form? I'd like to buy some pretty soon.
 
fueledpassion said:
Does NP sell the td form? I'd like to buy some pretty soon.
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soon i am told. demand for first batch went very quick. there was only one place to buy e-form before and i and a lot of others were forced to go there just to buy it. now finally we will be able to buy the upgraded td formestane here at np.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
We are hoping to have another batch in within a week. As soon as we get it in, we will ship to NP.
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You're gonna be doing a lot of mixing, boiling, and shaking ;) This is some good stuff :head: Btw, I'm not a suck up... I'd pm you if I thought it was deficient, and trust me, it's awesome!
 
celc5 said:
You're gonna be doing a lot of mixing, boiling, and shaking ;) This is some good stuff :head: Btw, I'm not a suck up... I'd pm you if I thought it was deficient, and trust me, it's awesome!
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Glad you are liking it. And I know that you would be honest no matter what, and I appreciate that.

On another note, I would never attempt to make a dermal myself. That would be the day I'd blow the office up lol :D

fueledpassion said:
I'm gonna get some. If Formex works, then the td has got to be good, too. How much does this stuff typically run? Same as orals?
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So far, I have seen it listed at 29.95
 
celc5 said:
You're gonna be doing a lot of mixing, boiling, and shaking ;) This is some good stuff :head: Btw, I'm not a suck up... I'd pm you if I thought it was deficient, and trust me, it's awesome!
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I'll attest to CelC being no suck up... he cussed me out then told me that he was logging Formex. How could I argue with that? :D
Seriously, he is as honest as they come.
 
what more can i say. i have been saying from the beginning this is real deal, even more potent than e-form, imo. celc is just using 1 pump and gyno symptoms are going away, guess that clears up that debate...as long as 3 years ago td formestane was reported to clear up gyno symptoms when applied directly to chest.
 
i am getting an aggressive boost of energy about 1 hour after taking xtren, i am going to try 4 caps at work tonight and see how it goes. i am responding really well to xtren and with the heat of summer coming, hope the weight i loose will be fat and not muscle-it is going to be very difficult to gain weight with the temp inside the factory going up, was covered in sweat for most of the night last night. hopefully adding the golden gains will help with better nutrition. btw-i seen to be sweating even more than usual.
 
Great log, im enjoying the look of these new products.
 
fueledpassion said:
I'm gonna get some. If Formex works, then the td has got to be good, too. How much does this stuff typically run? Same as orals?
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How do you know formex works. It is just esterfied ORAL Formestane. I don't think its been out long enough for people to run a full cycle yet. IBE can hype this all they want, but there is no way that it works better than the TD route. Their write up only compares formex to regular ORAL formestane, not TD Formestane. The reason for that is because they know its not better than the TD route. If they even thought that, they sure as hell would say it. TD formestane is proven. It has been around for a while and then sort of disappeared around Olympic time. Its back now and I don't see why you would gamble on hype when a proven product that is cheaper is around!

I am currently using CEL's TD Formestane and my PCT is going even better than planned. I continue to gain through PCT! Also, for those who used eform before, CEL got it right with their packaging and pump. The pump never gets clogged and the compound is more like a cream than liquid like eform was. Also there is no grittiness at all. Kudos CEL!
 
thebigt said:
i am very impressed so far. td formestane is even better than e-form was, and the xtren is very potent. only on 2nd week-damn.
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Thats what I was just saying. CEL got it right. The pump never clogs and I have to say, for me eform seemed very runny. CEL's is more like a cream and less messy. I'm using it for pct and I continue to see the gains throughout! I see so many people jumping on the hype train for Formex. I don't see why when TD Formestane is back and its cheaper!

Anyway. Looks like you are having a nice little cycle there. That sounds like a killer stack!
 
stl123 said:
How do you know formex works. It is just esterfied ORAL Formestane. I don't think its been out long enough for people to run a full cycle yet. IBE can hype this all they want, but there is no way that it works better than the TD route. Their write up only compares formex to regular ORAL formestane, not TD Formestane. The reason for that is because they know its not better than the TD route. If they even thought that, they sure as hell would say it. TD formestane is proven. It has been around for a while and then sort of disappeared around Olympic time. Its back now and I don't see why you would gamble on hype when a proven product that is cheaper is around!

I am currently using CEL's TD Formestane and my PCT is going even better than planned. I continue to gain through PCT! Also, for those who used eform before, CEL got it right with their packaging and pump. The pump never gets clogged and the compound is more like a cream than liquid like eform was. Also there is no grittiness at all. Kudos CEL!
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what he said.:cheers: damn, brother couldn't have said it better myself.
 
stl123 said:
Thats what I was just saying. CEL got it right. The pump never clogs and I have to say, for me eform seemed very runny. CEL's is more like a cream and less messy. I'm using it for pct and I continue to see the gains throughout! I see so many people jumping on the hype train for Formex. I don't see why when TD Formestane is back and its cheaper!

Anyway. Looks like you are having a nice little cycle there. That sounds like a killer stack!
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thanks, i don't think anyone is going to say formex is stronger or more potent than td formestane. wait till more people try the td form, if they like formex then td form is gonna rock them. btw this stack is killer. weighed in 4 pounds lighter at work and recomp is on a roll, this is kind of results i was looking for 'harder/leaner'. my protein is up with syntha-6 and golden gains, and loosing some of my gut. i am very happy. oh yeah, i went to 4 caps last night.
 
thebigt said:
thanks, i don't think anyone is going to say formex is stronger or more potent than td formestane. wait till more people try the td form, if they like formex then td form is gonna rock them. btw this stack is killer. weighed in 4 pounds lighter at work and recomp is on a roll, this is kind of results i was looking for 'harder/leaner'. my protein is up with syntha-6 and golden gains, and loosing some of my gut. i am very happy. oh yeah, i went to 4 caps last night.
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Yeah. I was in a bad mood last night and then was reading all the post praising Formex. I had to vent a little bit. But hey, if people want to buy Formex that means more TD formestane for the rest of us!

The more and more I think about it, I think this stack is going to be my next one! Have you experienced any sides at all. A while back I tried halo-t (halo/xtren clone stack) from anabolic formulations and experienced noticeable hair shedding and I stopped halfway through because I would have been bald by the end of the cycle. This sort of scarred me away from product like xtren. I have since read that anabolic formulations is a pretty iffy company. However, most people i read about don't have this problem! I think it was a bad clone!
 
stl123 said:
Yeah. I was in a bad mood last night and then was reading all the post praising Formex. I had to vent a little bit. But hey, if people want to buy Formex that means more TD formestane for the rest of us!

The more and more I think about it, I think this stack is going to be my next one! Have you experienced any sides at all. A while back I tried halo-t (halo/xtren clone stack) from anabolic formulations and experienced noticeable hair shedding and I stopped halfway through because I would have been bald by the end of the cycle. This sort of scarred me away from product like xtren. I have since read that anabolic formulations is a pretty iffy company. However, most people i read about don't have this problem! I think it was a bad clone!
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I dont see what the badgering is for fellas? I'm not slamming td form. In fact, I just got done saying that if the Formex is good, then the td should be even better! I'm getting some td. I trust what you say about it.

But the Formex does work, at least against estrogen it does. Been taking it for a week and my gyno symptoms are gone. No burning, irritability, tenderness. Nipples are small and hard again. So take it or leave it.
 
STL - Everyone has the right to an opinion; however, you are clearly making a very harsh claim against IBE, as well as myself. We don not hype. There is no Hype-train. Go read the PCT logs that people have and that have actually used the product; they're telling it like it is, and the overall feeling is that Formex did help them. Are you calling them liars? You obviously do not like IBE, that is clear. If you continue to make bold statements about the claims that we make or do not make, you are going to be shown the upside of down. I'll let Dustin (The Chemical Engineer) handle your statements about it being just, "Formestane with an ester attachment." And man, wipe your mouth off, you really should lay off the sucking up.

Thanks for making those statements, though; we look forward to our future talks.
Talk soon. :thumbsup:
 
stl123 said:
Yeah. I was in a bad mood last night and then was reading all the post praising Formex. I had to vent a little bit. But hey, if people want to buy Formex that means more TD formestane for the rest of us!

The more and more I think about it, I think this stack is going to be my next one! Have you experienced any sides at all. A while back I tried halo-t (halo/xtren clone stack) from anabolic formulations and experienced noticeable hair shedding and I stopped halfway through because I would have been bald by the end of the cycle. This sort of scarred me away from product like xtren. I have since read that anabolic formulations is a pretty iffy company. However, most people i read about don't have this problem! I think it was a bad clone!
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That's because it works. People praise products that work.

If you would like to check every single log on Formex, everyone is having similar outcomes with increased libido, endurance, vascularity, and weightloss.

How can you call that hype and can you tell me where anyone hyped up the product ??

Thank you.
 
stl123 said:
How do you know formex works. It is just esterfied ORAL Formestane. I don't think its been out long enough for people to run a full cycle yet. IBE can hype this all they want, but there is no way that it works better than the TD route. Their write up only compares formex to regular ORAL formestane, not TD Formestane. The reason for that is because they know its not better than the TD route. If they even thought that, they sure as hell would say it. TD formestane is proven. It has been around for a while and then sort of disappeared around Olympic time. Its back now and I don't see why you would gamble on hype when a proven product that is cheaper is around!

I am currently using CEL's TD Formestane and my PCT is going even better than planned. I continue to gain through PCT! Also, for those who used eform before, CEL got it right with their packaging and pump. The pump never gets clogged and the compound is more like a cream than liquid like eform was. Also there is no grittiness at all. Kudos CEL!
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Ive yet to see IBE hype anything, ever! That is one reason I respect IBE as much as I do, they let their products speak for themselves. They don't have to hype up anything because they know their products work.
 
stl123 said:
I am currently using CEL's TD Formestane and my PCT is going even better than planned. I continue to gain through PCT! Also, for those who used eform before, CEL got it right with their packaging and pump. The pump never gets clogged and the compound is more like a cream than liquid like eform was. Also there is no grittiness at all. Kudos CEL!
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Glad to hear that your PCT is going well; its excellent to hear that you are still gaining during your PCT.

I appreciate you detailing how the pump is as well. I have never personally used E-Form, so its hard for me to make direct comparisons.
 
Iron Lungz said:
STL - Everyone has the right to an opinion; however, you are clearly making a very harsh claim against IBE, as well as myself. We don not hype. There is no Hype-train. Go read the PCT logs that people have and that have actually used the product; they're telling it like it is, and the overall feeling is that Formex did help them. Are you calling them liars? You obviously do not like IBE, that is clear. If you continue to make bold statements about the claims that we make or do not make, you are going to be shown the upside of down. I'll let Dustin (The Chemical Engineer) handle your statements about it being just, "Formestane with an ester attachment." And man, wipe your mouth off, you really should lay off the sucking up.

Thanks for making those statements, though; we look forward to our future talks.
Talk soon. :thumbsup:
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My take is even if TD-Form DID work better, which I have no clue as I've not used either TD-Form or Formex, that doesn't render Formex ineffective or a pointless product. It obviously works, as users have reported, and clearly the whole idea of TD application is a huge turnoff for some people...As some would say, "Different strokes for different folks."
 
I am going to ask everyone if they can please take any arguing or bickering to PM's or another thread please. It really takes away from the fact that there is a good quality log going on.

There is room in the marketplace for both companies products. I have no problems with IBE, and while I feel wholeheartedly that our topical Formestane is the best on the market, they have the right to feel that way about theirs as well. Real world results will tell the tale.

I think things got out of hand in this thread now for several reasons. FeuledPassion kept talking about Formex in a log on our topical Formestane, and while I doubt he had any bad intentions in doing so, it could come off as continually mentioning a competing product in a sponsored log. Then, STL states his opinion, and he gets jumped on. Fact is, just as FueledPassion is entitled to his opinion, so is STL (who made his point, albeit brashly). I didnt raise hell about someone continuously talking about Formex in this thread, and I dont condone people continually talking about our topical Formestane in a Formex log, so I dont think he needs to be jumped on either.

Also, for the record, I dont know STL or any of his posts outside of this one thread, so if there are any problems between he and IBE, please take that up elsewhere.
 
Negative CEL - He called IBE out, and now we are answering. Exclude yourself from the situation if you will, but do not expect me to take it to PM when he made brash comments about my company in the open.
 
Iron Lungz said:
Negative CEL - He called IBE out, and now we are answering. Exclude yourself from the situation if you will, but do not expect me to take it to PM when he made brash comments about my company in the open.
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And by the way, some made comments about Topical Form in some Formex threads, so I don't see your point.
 
Iron Lungz said:
Negative CEL - He called IBE out, and now we are answering. Exclude yourself from the situation if you will, but do not expect me to take it to PM when he made brash comments about my company in the open.
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I didnt say just you, I said everyone talking negatively in this thread to take it elsewhere. And actually, I was trying to be helpful to keep Formex from getting talked negatively on in this thread.

Looking back at STL's posts - his first post wasnt that negative, he made observations about the write up for Formex, and then talked about topical Formestane being a more well proven route. He may could have left out the comments about IBE hyping it, but that appears to be his opinion. I honestly havent followed it enough to know whether it has or hasnt been hyped, but I dont view hype as being a bad thing at all as long as the product works in practice.

He then went on to talk about his results during his own PCT.

There have been numerous posts in this thread with FP talking positively about Formex and not once did anyone jump on him about it.

Iron Lungz said:
And by the way, some made comments about Topical Form in some Formex threads, so I don't see your point.
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I cannot control what consumers post, no company can. I said that I dont condone it and I said that you dont see me doing it.


I think you took me wrong. I'm not trying to be negative towards you at all. I just dont want it to detract from his log.
 
CompEdgeLabs said:
I didnt say just you, I said everyone talking negatively in this thread to take it elsewhere. And actually, I was trying to be helpful to keep Formex from getting talked negatively on in this thread.

Looking back at STL's posts - his first post wasnt that negative, he made observations about the write up for Formex, and then talked about topical Formestane being a more well proven route. He may could have left out the comments about IBE hyping it, but that appears to be his opinion. I honestly havent followed it enough to know whether it has or hasnt been hyped, but I dont view hype as being a bad thing at all as long as the product works in practice.

He then went on to talk about his results during his own PCT.

There have been numerous posts in this thread with FP talking positively about Formex and not once did anyone jump on him about it.



I cannot control what consumers post, no company can. I said that I dont condone it and I said that you dont see me doing it.


I think you took me wrong. I'm not trying to be negative towards you at all. I just dont want it to detract from his log.
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STL publically bashed Formex though, and thebigt obviously isn't a fan either by the looks of a few of his remarks he has made since it came out...

You can't just expect us to sit back and not retaliate to his ignorant remark about a product he hasn't researched or used himself.

I agree that this rebuttal should be taken to PM's if necessary to keep the log going.
 
stl123 said:
Yeah. I was in a bad mood last night and then was reading all the post praising Formex. I had to vent a little bit. But hey, if people want to buy Formex that means more TD formestane for the rest of us!

The more and more I think about it, I think this stack is going to be my next one! Have you experienced any sides at all. A while back I tried halo-t (halo/xtren clone stack) from anabolic formulations and experienced noticeable hair shedding and I stopped halfway through because I would have been bald by the end of the cycle. This sort of scarred me away from product like xtren. I have since read that anabolic formulations is a pretty iffy company. However, most people i read about don't have this problem! I think it was a bad clone!
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i am using cycle assist and bp has gone up a few points, libido is down some a little lethargy and thats it for sides. as a fact i went to 4 caps last night and will stay at 4 for probably 2 more weeks. strength and recomp effects are starting to show up nicely. i am taking vitex as per eric 'pp' advice, and no symptoms of anything gyno like, the formestane is doing it's job. btw from what i have read/heard all trens are not equal, xtren seems to me to be the real deal and i recommend it. no shedding!!!!!:cheers:
 
i am really enjoying this cycle, very much. my first time using tren has been a learning experience for me and i hope the sharing of info can/will help others who may want to run this. i admit to be exuberant towards td formestane, but this goes back way before there even was a formex. i hope to keep sharing and learning in this log and not let it become a place of nothing but bickering. so i ask very respectfully that everyone please stay on topic. thanks-T.
 
AK32408 said:
STL publically bashed Formex though, and thebigt obviously isn't a fan either by the looks of a few of his remarks he has made since it came out...

You can't just expect us to sit back and not retaliate to his ignorant remark about a product he hasn't researched or used himself.

I agree that this rebuttal should be taken to PM's if necessary to keep the log going.
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STL stated an opinion; he may could have been a little more tactful about the way he put the 'hype' parts of what he said, but overall he stated his opinion and then talked about his own results. Much the same as FP stated his like for Formex.

I do understand your position though; it is tough to watch someone say anything negatively about something you believe in.

I just didnt want it to resort into an all out Formex vs Topical Formestane debate, as that would just lead to even more negativity and take away from what is an excellent log here. (Plus, as of now, IBE and Competitive Edge as far as I know are on pretty good terms, and I really want to keep it that way, which is the only reason I myself didnt say something about the amount of Formex discussion in this thread, which lead to STL's remarks.)

As for BigT, he has been praising formestane for years, so I dont think anyone can say that he doesnt like it; I think he is just a bigger fan of topical formestane, as are many people that tried E-Form in the past.

thebigt said:
i am using cycle assist and bp has gone up a few points, libido is down some a little lethargy and thats it for sides. as a fact i went to 4 caps last night and will stay at 4 for probably 2 more weeks. strength and recomp effects are starting to show up nicely. i am taking vitex as per eric 'pp' advice, and no symptoms of anything gyno like, the formestane is doing it's job. btw from what i have read/heard all trens are not equal, xtren seems to me to be the real deal and i recommend it. no shedding!!!!!:cheers:
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Glad to hear that there is no shedding. Excellent log thus far.
 
thanks bryan, i am really enjoying this. went to 4 caps last night, can't wait to see results.
 
Iron Lungz said:
STL - Everyone has the right to an opinion; however, you are clearly making a very harsh claim against IBE, as well as myself. We don not hype. There is no Hype-train. Go read the PCT logs that people have and that have actually used the product; they're telling it like it is, and the overall feeling is that Formex did help them. Are you calling them liars? You obviously do not like IBE, that is clear. If you continue to make bold statements about the claims that we make or do not make, you are going to be shown the upside of down. I'll let Dustin (The Chemical Engineer) handle your statements about it being just, "Formestane with an ester attachment." And man, wipe your mouth off, you really should lay off the sucking up.

Thanks for making those statements, though; we look forward to our future talks.
Talk soon. :thumbsup:
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Please let him handle it! I don't think my statements are that bold. The write up for formadex is worded to make it sound like it is the best way to use formestane!

This is a copy and paste from my pm's from an IBE rep when I asked about formadex!

Formex is an esterfied formestane... so same base product, but protected so it isnt destroyed in the gullet. Some say a more gradual onset, but are reporting the same effects.

And as far as sucking up goes, CEL is probably the most reputable company around here. They let there products do the talking for them! If your product worked as great as you are claiming then why does my little comment piss you off so much? If it was that great then you shouldn't be worried about my comments because results speak way louder than I do!
 
AK32408 said:
STL publically bashed Formex though, and thebigt obviously isn't a fan either by the looks of a few of his remarks he has made since it came out...

You can't just expect us to sit back and not retaliate to his ignorant remark about a product he hasn't researched or used himself.

I agree that this rebuttal should be taken to PM's if necessary to keep the log going.
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This is a public forum and here to share opinions, information, and experiences.

Do you IBE reps get pissed at anyone who doesn't like your products? Because I know for a fact and guarantee you I'm not the only one that feels this way. But I guess that's cool as long as they don't put it up on this forum. Right? So far I haven't seen one post from you guys in response to mine explaining anything.

I do admit that I probably came off as a **** and didn't word my statement the right way.

I don't mean that Formadex doesn't work. What I meant to say was that my problem is with the wording of the write up and the total lack of mentioning TD Formestane when your write up just says that formadex is by far better than regular Formestane. It seems like your write up is directly targeted to newbs that don't know any better. Sorry you don't like my opinion. So keep on negging me for giving my OPINION. It still won't change my mind!!! Only first hand results will!!!

Waaahhh!!! Stl doesn't like our products and we feel threatened!! Waaahhh!!! What a bunch of babies who can't take any negative feedback! Being negged and in the red doesn't mean **** to me IBE reps. I wonder why these IBE REPS are so defensive? Oh yeah, IBE gives them free ****!!! Gotta feed the monkey!! Way to represent your company!!!

Your the only company I know that resorts to calling people c unts through PM for their opinions. What a stand up group of guys you are!!!!!!!
 
thebigt said:
thanks bryan, i am really enjoying this. went to 4 caps last night, can't wait to see results.
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Sorry for the hijack bro. I didn't think IBE would get so pissy with my opinions. People are entitled to their opinions. I just guess IBE doesn't think so though. :wave2:
 
wow-went to 4 caps last night and felt the aggressiveness. but when i weighed in i was back at 217 at work with the damned steel toed boots on-i hate those damn things. ive worked 12's for the last 4 days and even added golden gains and added an extra syntha-6 shake. it seems that when the weather is warmer i loose weight working 12's no matter what. but the good news is i may be back to original weight but i am looking/feeling much leaner. i think i have to be loosing bf-woohoo. i am really enjoying this ride and can't wait to see how it ends. oh yeah, no sides-none. i feel great.
 
wow- it looks like ive been thrown under the bus. to anyone who finds me thanks for the effort....lol
 
thebigt said:
wow-went to 4 caps last night and felt the aggressiveness. but when i weighed in i was back at 217 at work with the damned steel toed boots on-i hate those damn things. ive worked 12's for the last 4 days and even added golden gains and added an extra syntha-6 shake. it seems that when the weather is warmer i loose weight working 12's no matter what. but the good news is i may be back to original weight but i am looking/feeling much leaner. i think i have to be loosing bf-woohoo. i am really enjoying this ride and can't wait to see how it ends. oh yeah, no sides-none. i feel great.
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Very nice!! I am the same way, in the case of loosing weight in the spring/summer. I do my normal workout routine and on top of that I am very active outdoors! If I go under 3000 calories, I end up loosing weight rapidly! My metabolism is very high!

Minus the drama above, I am enjoying your log. Keep on keepin on!!:thumbsup:
 
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