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Timberlakers 1-Andro Annihilation (AMS Sponsored)

GMG760 said:
Well, yes and no.

PP's 1T has the same 1-androsterone ingredient in it, but also has DHEA and Pregnonolone in it.

Your skins enzymes will convert the 1AD to 1T at about a 40% rate.

Orally it converts around 8%.
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How much are you applying daily topically?

I'm going to dose at 600mg ed for the run.

Oh, and Money - just picked up a Kodak digital camera at defunct Circuit City for pretty cheap. So I'll take some pictures in the morning. (I want cold pictures this time around)...
 
TimberLakers said:
How much are you applying daily topically?

I'm going to dose at 600mg ed for the run.

Oh, and Money - just picked up a Kodak digital camera at defunct Circuit City for pretty cheap. So I'll take some pictures in the morning. (I want cold pictures this time around)...
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At 5 pumps it renders something like 40-45mg 1T after conversion...(?)

At 600mg oral dose you should be getting about 48mg... if my conversions are correct.

The PP 1T has topical DHEA in it as well, so there should be some conversion to testosterone itself as well.

I dunno about this 400mg test and 30mg anavar that Eric from PP has been quoted as comparing it to. Nor have I seen the 12-15lbs gains from it solo either... but people have been making decent gains on it, and it is something that interests me, so I'm gonna give it a shot.
 
GMG760 said:
At 5 pumps it renders something like 40-45mg 1T after conversion...(?)

At 600mg oral dose you should be getting about 48mg... if my conversions are correct.

The PP 1T has topical DHEA in it as well, so there should be some conversion to testosterone itself as well.

I dunno about this 400mg test and 30mg anavar that Eric from PP has been quoted as comparing it to. Nor have I seen the 12-15lbs gains from it solo either... but people have been making decent gains on it, and it is something that interests me, so I'm gonna give it a shot.
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I think you and I are usually pretty spot on with expectations. Anyone that thinks a topical like that will toss on 12 to 15 of LBM needs to reevaluate their lives. You're going to have a lot of actives in you though at the same time... Just eat more this time. Don't make me mail you meat and rice.
 
Foot is sore, it actually improved a bit on my walk to Union Square to get the camera... I'm going to evaluate back day here around 6PM and make a judgement call. I still WANT to go to the gym, but I also want to DESTROY myself - which probably wont happen if I can only put 70% of my weight on my big toe. :lol:
 
TimberLakers said:
I think you and I are usually pretty spot on with expectations. Anyone that thinks a topical like that will toss on 12 to 15 of LBM needs to reevaluate their lives. You're going to have a lot of actives in you though at the same time... Just eat more this time. Don't make me mail you meat and rice.
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I think it could if it was the first hormone a person ever ran, and they ate themselves stupid.

I wish I could run the 1T solo alongside your 1AD run, and we could compare who gained more, as we seem to be about the same when it comes to gaining weight. But... I have this hair up my ass to run a pretty intense cycle, so I probably won't really know what the hell the 1T is doing for me on it's own. I'll know better what it is like when I do my solo 1-androstendiol cycle in the future.

I weighed in at 197 today buddy... I may not have gained 30lbs like rugger did, but I am a good 10lbs bigger than I was before. A pretty successful 3 weeks if you ask me.

I would have ate more if my appetite was there.... and yes i know, I should have ate regardless of hunger, but homie... it's easier said than done, and my lesson has been learned.
 
ThisGuy2 said:
p.s. when did they reset our reps again??? Look at my sh!t!! That's pathetic.
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They didn't reset your reps, it is your "rep power" now. Which means that is what you can give out when you give reps... not how many you have gotten. I like this much better than before. Having 130,000 rep points is f*cking stupid and pointless after a bit.
 
TimberLakers said:
Foot is sore, it actually improved a bit on my walk to Union Square to get the camera... I'm going to evaluate back day here around 6PM and make a judgement call. I still WANT to go to the gym, but I also want to DESTROY myself - which probably wont happen if I can only put 70% of my weight on my big toe. :lol:
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You can get a pretty intense back workout without any pressure on your feet. Use the hammerstrength and go UBER heavy this week. Use reverse crunches for your lower back instead of dead lifts. You'll be straight, and your toe can heal another week.
 
GMG760 said:
I would have ate more if my appetite was there.... and yes i know, I should have ate regardless of hunger, but homie... it's easier said than done, and my lesson has been learned.
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Yeah man... eating to bulk is NOT easy... BTW - I'm not picking on you.
 
I never said you were.... *sniff*

*wipes a tear from his eye.





:toofunny:


Dude, I'm just tellin ya how it was for me. Trust me my feelings aren't hurt, and I do know that I should have ate about 1000 calories a day more. Live and learn. We talk more sh*t to each other on a daily basis than most do in a month. You should know me better by now.


:fing26:
 
I've seen logs of 9 lb gains for 1-T solo runs. Can't wait to see where your cycles go guys.
 
GMG760 said:
I never said you were.... *sniff*

*wipes a tear from his eye.

:toofunny:

Dude, I'm just tellin ya how it was for me. Trust me my feelings aren't hurt, and I do know that I should have ate about 1000 calories a day more. Live and learn. We talk more sh*t to each other on a daily basis than most do in a month. You should know me better by now.

:fing26:
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:lol: Wait... so can I tell everyone how your girlfriend always grabs the big plate of pasta?
 
Have you guys seen the deal that PP is having on their stack? Two bottles of 1-T, a bottle of Sustain Alpha, Toco-8 and Endoamp for $150. Killer deal. No, I won't be buying it, but just letting you guys know. Trauma1 has a thread on it in the Company Promotion section.
 
I almost pulled the trigger on that one Irish. Opted instead to load up on essentials(protein,multi,fishoil,etc)
 
Irish Cannon said:
Have you guys seen the deal that PP is having on their stack? Two bottles of 1-T, a bottle of Sustain Alpha, Toco-8 and Endoamp for $150. Killer deal. No, I won't be buying it, but just letting you guys know. Trauma1 has a thread on it in the Company Promotion section.
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Even if that is a good deal (and I'm not saying it isn't), do you guys know how much real gear that $150 can purchase??!!! Damn.....:tongue2:
 
DAY 1

Day 1 (official) - TimberSplit 1

So a little bit of dissapointment today, and a lot of destruction. Here's how it went down:

Pullups
Just 20 today. Did 20 this morning on walk home.

Bent Row
10*135, 8*185, 5*185, 12*135

Deads
6*225, 6*315, half fail*385 (you'll pay b*tch), Let me tell you how: 11*315 weight Rep PR +3, 20*245 Widow weight PR +20 :firedevil: :firedevil:

Split Pulley Lat Pulldown
10*50, 10*60, 6*60, 8*50

Lat Cable Crosses
2*10*20

I was upset about the 385, compared to 405 its relativey light. Guess that just speaks to how rough the BJJ is on my body - especially three hours worth. I was VERY impressed by how I recovered from that dissapointment though. The 315 and Widow sets were COMPLETE failure... fighting the last rep. As far as the 385 goes, I held that b*tch around my waist for probably 6 or 7 good seconds trying to finish the single rep - but it just wasnt in the cards today.

The deadlifts left me feeling drained and blasted... kinda nauseous - which explains the limited volume afterwards. Some fools at the gym were definitely looking at me all twisted when I was grunting out that 315 set of 11. F*ck em...

As far as reactions go today... I feel pretty great. I got EXTREMELY tired last night and went to bed early. Could be a reaction to the 1-androsterone... could be just a rough week at work. I'll let you guys know. The stomach discomfort was non-existant today. Took 3 split doses of 2 caps with meals.
 
thundergod said:
Even if that is a good deal (and I'm not saying it isn't), do you guys know how much real gear that $150 can purchase??!!! Damn.....:tongue2:
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You could brew up about a 15 week supply(depending on how much you dose it at) of Test prop for less than half that. LMAO
 
you know im in man!
 
Looking good bro! Dont worry about those deads, in time 400 will be easy..lol I just started this week doing dead lifts again but, im having to do them with the smith-machine due to my hip, jus hoping ill get same effect.
 
metroba said:
you know im in man!
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Good to see ya Met! BIG Met... Full of food Met.

JOHNJESSICA20 said:
Looking good bro! Dont worry about those deads, in time 400 will be easy..lol I just started this week doing dead lifts again but, im having to do them with the smith-machine due to my hip, jus hoping ill get same effect.
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Yeah, I've hit 405... Just haven't ventured back successfully. The 405 was completely off cycle and virtually no supplements though - I think it was just fatigue and that little foot problem this morning, which may be sore for awhile. Not worried - that 425 will come off the floor by the end of this log.

grila jujitsu said:
WTF!! Why was i not alerted about this!!!!!!!? anyways subbed fo sho!
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Haven't seen ya around. I didn't go the route of posting on everyone else's log this time around unless they specifically asked for it... Timber relies heavily on word of mouth advertising. Tell a friend!!! :hump:

ANYONE SEE SUGAR SHANE DESTROY MARGARITO??? HELL YEAH!
 
Quick question for AMS or anyone for that matter.

Obviously have been taking 1-Androsterone with meals... Any nutrients in particular more helpful for delivery / conversion? i.e. should I make sure to take with fats and/or carbohydrates? Most of my meals contain a good balance, but my nighttime dose would mainly be taken with protein unless I hear otherwise.
 
TimberLakers said:
Quick question for AMS or anyone for that matter.

Obviously have been taking 1-Androsterone with meals... Any nutrients in particular more helpful for delivery / conversion? i.e. should I make sure to take with fats and/or carbohydrates? Most of my meals contain a good balance, but my nighttime dose would mainly be taken with protein unless I hear otherwise.
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A 3:1 ratio of carbohydrate to protein is a safe place to start. You want to take them in divided doses through the day, the standard is
3 doses 3 times daily. Taking them with food is optional, but if you
take them with a high fat meal they can help absorption. Also keep
hydrated (you should be doing this anyway) this will also help with absorption.
 
like John said, I'd take them with meals that have a decent amount of fats.

With that said.. Subbed!
 
Looking solid TL. Your build is similar to mine....I just have a little more mileage on the odometer
 
Arms/shoulders/back/traps lookn good man!
 
My foot swole up like a balloon last night... Was thinking about taking a picture of it. :lol: and it is a lot more tender to walk on. Good thing I got back out of the way yesterday... So I will be going to hit chest tonight...

I'm a little worried about squats potentially tomorrow... We'll see how that plays out.
 
Ice that sh/t down broham...and some nsaids.
 
Day 2

Day 2 - Chest

BB Incline
10*135, 8*155, 6*175, 10*135

Incline Hammer
10*150, 6*190, 3*210, 8*170

Wide Chest Hammer
10*180, 4*270, 6*230, 8*180

Dips
12, 8, 7

Cables

Good workout... typical workout... Nothing crazy to report as of yet - still feel pretty much the same as I always do, although I am getting a little sleepy earlier - and I'm pretty hungry as well.

AMS have any opinion as to the time the compound typically becomes active? Or strong days / weeks of a typical cycle?
 
TimberLakers said:
Day 2 - Chest

BB Incline
10*135, 8*155, 6*175, 10*135

Incline Hammer
10*150, 6*190, 3*210, 8*170

Wide Chest Hammer
10*180, 4*270, 6*230, 8*180

Dips
12, 8, 7

Cables

Good workout... typical workout... Nothing crazy to report as of yet - still feel pretty much the same as I always do, although I am getting a little sleepy earlier - and I'm pretty hungry as well.

AMS have any opinion as to the time the compound typically becomes active? Or strong days / weeks of a typical cycle?
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Varies a little bit, but anywhere from week 2-4 is usually the "kick" in terms of gains. Hunger is a good sign though.
 
TimberLakers said:
My foot swole up like a balloon last night... Was thinking about taking a picture of it. :lol: and it is a lot more tender to walk on. Good thing I got back out of the way yesterday... So I will be going to hit chest tonight...

I'm a little worried about squats potentially tomorrow... We'll see how that plays out.
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A 200 pound douchebag cracking session+deads would do that to ya, I'd imagine :p

However, if it were me...

TimberLakers said:
Not like thats gonna stop me or anything. :fing26:
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:thumbsup: :sgrin:

:lol:
 
I'm glad we have several hemispheres between NY and Aus, DFly. I fear meeting you in a gym could only lead to severe DOMS and at least 3 or 4 broken bones.

But keep some P-Slin on you just in case.
 
TimberLakers said:
I'm glad we have several hemispheres between NY and Aus, DFly. I fear meeting you in a gym could only lead to severe DOMS and at least 3 or 4 broken bones.

But keep some P-Slin on you just in case.
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I have no idea what this means, but I'm assuming the broken bones would be from her using your body for Good Mornings and then throwing you on the ground because you're not heavy enough?...
 
Just clicked back to your pics. You have grown significantly from the first H-Drol run. Keep up the impressive progress big homie!
 
Day 3 (off)

Had to stop in at the store today to pick up some more whey. There were a group of 3 completely awkward dudes at Vitamin Shoppe talking about supplements... and not just kind of awkward - like bedsores on their ass from playing Warcraft awkward.

He asked the kid at the front desk for... I sh*t you not... "MuscleTech Anabolic Pills"... I was like man, I need to stick around for this. So the guy at the register looks up and was like "well dude, they are all anabolic" and gestured towards Creakik, Leukik... and something else. So the leader of the pack asks the guy if he can see the Leukik, and begins to explain to his friends how its just pretty much toned down steroids, and that "real" steroids are about 10,000 times stronger. But I guess the Leukik package says its 600% more anabolic than something else... so they were doing the math if they were to stack it with some protein that said the same thing - like multiplying percentages.

It was just too much to handle. They didn't buy anything - otherwise I probably would have went and talked to them... Hate to see people being roped into pill popping when they don't understand what it is - or that they actually have to be active to see any results.

Today is an off day. Normally I would have went to do legs, but I'm going to give my foot a day of rest today... leg days are important and tough - no sense going in at 80%. Going to eat big, and watch some TV.

As far as the 1-Androsterone goes - I am feeling a little tired lately as mentioned before, but I am recovering quite nicely from my chest and back workouts... not quite as sore as usual. Perhaps a glimpse of things to come?
 
Man I need to get me some of those MuscleTech Anabolic Pills.. ;)
 
Silver3CSRT8 said:
Just clicked back to your pics. You have grown significantly from the first H-Drol run. Keep up the impressive progress big homie!
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Thanks buddy. I'll throw em up here in case anyone is curious as to what you're talking about. Left shots are from about 11 months ago I believe. I obviously need to get a little better with the lighting.

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Rest up big Timber, let that foot rest some, and then get yo ass back in there and blast some shit!!! :rocketwhore:
By the way, I like the new round of pics. Like Silver said, much bigger than the H-Drol days. I especially like the last pic, the one on bottom.
 
TimberLakers said:
Had to stop in at the store today to pick up some more whey. There were a group of 3 completely awkward dudes at Vitamin Shoppe talking about supplements... and not just kind of awkward - like bedsores on their ass from playing Warcraft awkward.

He asked the kid at the front desk for... I sh*t you not... "MuscleTech Anabolic Pills"... I was like man, I need to stick around for this. So the guy at the register looks up and was like "well dude, they are all anabolic" and gestured towards Creakik, Leukik... and something else. So the leader of the pack asks the guy if he can see the Leukik, and begins to explain to his friends how its just pretty much toned down steroids, and that "real" steroids are about 10,000 times stronger. But I guess the Leukik package says its 600% more anabolic than something else... so they were doing the math if they were to stack it with some protein that said the same thing - like multiplying percentages.

It was just too much to handle. They didn't buy anything - otherwise I probably would have went and talked to them... Hate to see people being roped into pill popping when they don't understand what it is - or that they actually have to be active to see any results.

Today is an off day. Normally I would have went to do legs, but I'm going to give my foot a day of rest today... leg days are important and tough - no sense going in at 80%. Going to eat big, and watch some TV.

As far as the 1-Androsterone goes - I am feeling a little tired lately as mentioned before, but I am recovering quite nicely from my chest and back workouts... not quite as sore as usual. Perhaps a glimpse of things to come?
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That feeling tired thing should go away soon I noticed exact same thing while Iwas on but it only lasted a week or 10 days. Good job so far.. hope that foot gets better.
 
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