nostradamas and edgar casey...any one follow this stuff?

[MoTiV]

Motiv, what the Maya did say (Dresden Codex) is that global flooding and cataclysm will be at the end of this Baktun. Which will then usser in a new era and time of relative peace and prosperity. It was never that earth would "blow up" or something as preposterous as that, it was that we are looking at major cataclysms which will cause the demise of millions (according to the Maya) for many that is the end of the world.

Also, about the Galactic Allignment. Read the first line in your wiki source



evidently to many people it means many things

Anytime someone talks about the "End of the World" what they really mean is the "end of humanity," again it's the arrogance that surrounds us. More than likely the earth will still be here long after we're gone.

I'm not disputing anything about the Mayan predictions. IMO, they make a lot of sense and the only way for humanity to change its ways is for such an event to occur.

Although debatable, many scientists agree that the problems in our society as a whole the main problem is over population. We're not going to do anything about it we all know that so something else is going to have to take care of the problem. So if and when such an event occurs then if we're smart we'll change our ways....

The Hopi predict a point in time, the beginning of the 5th World, in which humans will have to choose a path. One path leads to harmony and ushers in a Golden Age for civilization. The other path leads to unhappiness for all and the descent of humanity into 'hell'.

Galactic Alignment

Yes this term means many things to different people. However, those who interpret this event to mark the precise alignment of the sun, earth, and galactic center to occur on 12/21/2012 are mistaken. There will be all sorts of other alignments that will occur obviously, but this precise alignment has already past. Perhaps the Mayans were referring to a different alignment.


There are some scientists who believe that now that we have entered the northern hemisphere of the galaxy we will be introduced to massive amounts of cosmic radioactive waves which will affect the earth and us directly.

There are many scenarios which can come into play and no way to prepare for them all. Whether it happens in our lifetime or our childrens or our childrens children at some point the earth will once again go through violent changes very rapidly and hopefully changes the way humanity views its existence.

 

[AE14]

Anytime someone talks about the "End of the World" what they really mean is the "end of humanity," again it's the arrogance that surrounds us. More than likely the earth will still be here long after we're gone.

I'm not disputing anything about the Mayan predictions. IMO, they make a lot of sense and the only way for humanity to change its ways is for such an event to occur.

Although debatable, many scientists agree that the problems in our society as a whole the main problem is over population. We're not going to do anything about it we all know that so something else is going to have to take care of the problem. So if and when such an event occurs then if we're smart we'll change our ways....

The Hopi predict a point in time, the beginning of the 5th World, in which humans will have to choose a path. One path leads to harmony and ushers in a Golden Age for civilization. The other path leads to unhappiness for all and the descent of humanity into 'hell'.

Agreed. I dont think the world ends per se...I think that with the violence and possibility of other issues (pole shift, disease,violent storms, etc..) we will see a major decrease in population. It happens more frequently than we think

Galactic Alignment

Yes this term means many things to different people. However, those who interpret this event to mark the precise alignment of the sun, earth, and galactic center to occur on 12/21/2012 are mistaken. There will be all sorts of other alignments that will occur obviously, but this precise alignment has already past. Perhaps the Mayans were referring to a different alignment.


There are some scientists who believe that now that we have entered the northern hemisphere of the galaxy we will be introduced to massive amounts of cosmic radioactive waves which will affect the earth and us directly.

There are many scenarios which can come into play and no way to prepare for them all. Whether it happens in our lifetime or our childrens or our childrens children at some point the earth will once again go through violent changes very rapidly and hopefully changes the way humanity views its existence.

I do think allignment is a rough term and has many meanings considering the large amount of celestial bodies involved. However, many astronomers calculated that the one for the winter solstice 2012 will be the one involving the dark rift. Only every 26,000 years.

Hey who knows, it could amount to nothing, or maybe it is just Nibiru on its 3600 year orbit :thumbsup:

 

[MoTiV]

I used to get caught up in this stuff but honestly its just fun to think about now as far as the possibility of predicting the future and therefore understanding more about the universe and our part in it.

I just think its interesting that we live in what the ancient world would call the 'end of times.' Apparently most of these predictions all end in and around this time period. So if nothing happens between now and say 2030 then we know its all bunk because there aren't any specific predictions for any other time period after 2012.

But if something does happen that would be cool to, if me and my dog survive that is...

 

[soseg]

motiv... yea you're right about the period thing... tho I think where you're wrong (from memory) is that the fact that we currently are in the last period right now... this last period that we are in started a few years ago, they decrease by periods of 20x i think... so the last one started around the turn of the century... then the one before that was 17/18 century (forgot the years)... and things happened during these times that kinda correlate I guess with these eras... then you can go back even further to roughly 0bc, and further again for the next period which is something like when humans started to think more and act the way we do now, civilisations, communities, etc...just a real basic run down there

as for the religion thing... people telling me to respect it... i do, i never disrespected it, all i merely said in previous posts is i dont buy it anymore. i was brought up a catholic and through time I decided under my own beliefs that its bogus. that cant offend you because im sure you all think that my view (that no divine being exists) is bogus as well... cause you guys believe there is something up there that started it.

i can say, "prove to me god exists" and you can throw it back and say "prove he doesnt", thats what makes you guys theists and what makes me an atheist, and not an agnostic

as for me personally, from the stuff ive read and seen, i just personally dont think the bible is what its cracked up to be, written so far down the track after the death of jesus... i believe there was a jesus, cause so many scriptures and writings speak of him even outside of the bible... but whether or not he is the son of god... i dont buy it. david copperfield 2000 years ago wouldve wow'd the pants off everybody, and from what ive read, there was other guys walking around the same time as jesus doing the same things as him, preaching the word of god, claiming to be prophets etc, son of god, healing people, doing minor miracles... but i forgot why they didnt gain the popularity etc especially historically... but if you read into that it becomes quite interesting

as for the bible being the most accurate book for predicting things... well like someone else said earlier, its open to interpretation. so many things in the bible have already been discredited. Moses for one in the old testament... well... would you believe me if I said that there is NO historical or geological evidence he ever existed OUTSIDE of the bible? no other scriptures or writings from any groups or communties or civilizations ever spoke of him... bit weird dont you think?

you look at Noah's ark... geologists and historians have confirmed roughly in that time in what is today present Iraq I think there was a massive flood... tho the rivers around there do flood yearly, on one particular year in the same period as the bible speaks of, there was a larger than usual flood (confirmed by geologists or the others who can figure this out by digging up soil), and theres heaps of writings and historical scriptures etc from people that lived up and down this river of a flood happening, and all of them speak of a boat carrying items, but it obviously wasnt every animal in the world... (duh... dont tell me adam and eve are real), but its popular belief that it was some merchant who had a boat or something with some supplies and items on it that got sent down the river in the flood... roughly something like that, I'm not going to look it up for direct quotes atm.

Another show I saw on history channel was something in the bible that spoke of fireballs coming from the heavans and destroying some city... obviously back then people thought it was God ticked off etc. ...well yet again, historians and the likes with time figured out the rough location of this town that used to exist that the bible spoke of, scientists did studies on the soils etc in that area... and what do you know, turns out when they dug up layers that again... roughly a few thousand years ago, in correlation with what the bible speaks off... the soil seems volcanic... and ividence of burnt soil from fires etc, further research shows that there used to be an active volcano in the area

I don't want to turn this into a long discussion, I'm sure you all know how these topics fire EVERYONE up and create long as threads and possibly fights. Everyone has their own beliefs and good for them. Whatever makes you happy. So lets not start a fight over it and lets not knock on eachothers doors at 10am on sunday mornings trying to convert eachother, let alone kill eachother over 'sacred land'.

In conclusion, I find the whole Mayan thing interesting cause these guys were pedantic about the celestial events... amazing for such an old civilization... and science tends to agree with it too, so I'm just curious as to what will happen in 2012 regarding possible polar shifts. As for the other stuff, I am very skeptical.

 

[Jayhawkk]

The mayan calendar ended cause they got tired of writing the damn thing when they reached 2012... Figured someone else could pick it up from there.

 

[soseg]

The mayan calendar ended cause they got tired of writing the damn thing when they reached 2012... Figured someone else could pick it up from there.

lol well said

 

[dsade]

The mayan calendar ended cause they got tired of writing the damn thing when they reached 2012... Figured someone else could pick it up from there.

Technically, my calendar ended in 2008...the ones that usually send free ones didn't...armageddon is in my kitchen (well...if Christine cooks.)

 

[NattyT]

You guys are funny, its all good soseg your truth is your truth and mine is mine. If science could prove that god is real it wouldnt take faith to know him. And it is impossible to please god without faith, thats all Im saying. As for the predictions I think its very interresting. Everything that has a beginning has a end, I watch those shows, I research conspiracy theory and all that, it is a lot of truth to it but its only half there. Ill continue to pray for each and every one of you still.

 

[soseg]

You guys are funny, its all good soseg your truth is your truth and mine is mine. If science could prove that god is real it wouldnt take faith to know him. And it is impossible to please god without faith, thats all Im saying. As for the predictions I think its very interresting. Everything that has a beginning has a end, I watch those shows, I research conspiracy theory and all that, it is a lot of truth to it but its only half there. Ill continue to pray for each and every one of you still.

Well said

 

[DmitryWI]

And it is impossible to please god without faith

One thing I don't understand, is your god some kind of ego-maniac who wants to be worshipped, you have to follow his rules/commandments or you are pretty much f...ed?

And damn, man, learn how to spell or something. English isn't my first language, not even second, and it's my pet peeve when people can't speak or write in their own language.

 

[DmitryWI]

Here's my prediction for 2012.
I'm sure there gonna be some global changes sooner or later that make people realize we are all in this together. Just like it happens every day now when some disaster strikes and many people rush to help their neighbor, no matter what race they are or what religion they belong to. But I guess those disasters aren't bad enough to make people stop fighting about their stupid religions and what not and caring only for their own asses. We need something bigger, some global catastrophe before people realize, we are all one.

 

[AE14]

One thing I don't understand, is your god some kind of ego-maniac who wants to be worshipped, you have to follow his rules/commandments or you are pretty much f...ed?

Well said and repped for this. I never understood how a supreme being achieved human ego characteristics. alwaysh perplexing

 

[Jayhawkk]

One thing I don't understand, is your god some kind of ego-maniac who wants to be worshipped, you have to follow his rules/commandments or you are pretty much f...ed?

And damn, man, learn how to spell or something. English isn't my first language, not even second, and it's my pet peeve when people can't speak or write in their own language.

Pretty bold statement unless you know for sure that English is his first language... He was also explaining his faith without talking down to yours. Kind of a low blow to automatically attack the God he worships without provocation.

 

[dsade]

Pretty bold statement unless you know for sure that English is his first language... He was also explaining his faith without talking down to yours. Kind of a low blow to automatically attack the God he worships without provocation.

My god could totally kick your god's ass.

 

[AJC408]

DO not Christians insult the beliefs of other by claiming that if they don't unquestioningly swallow what conflicting information in a book says, that they will be punished with hell?

Personally, I find that offensive and rude, yet it doesn't stop them.

Funny how tolerance usually only travels one direction.

First off, I think many people make the error in stereotyping the believers for an entire religion. I realize that many many many Christians can be horrible people but you should base your ideas about the religion off the doctrine, not the person. Many times you will find the doctrine to be completely opposite to what the believer says and does.

With that said, the Bible does say that if you do not put your faith in Jesus Christ you will be thrown into Hell. I am not sure why you find it offensive being that virtually every religion in the world has one way to heaven or paradise or a “good place.” Is it offensive because you do not agree with it? And, could you explain to me how Christians are being intolerant of your beliefs? Could you be acting intolerant of their intolerance?

Also, I just want to let you know that I do respect your opinion although I disagree with it. I don’t want this to turn into an online battle against beliefs but rather just a discussion to understand others opinions and question their beliefs. Thanks for your response in advanced.

Respectfully,

AJC

 

[soseg]

Here's my prediction for 2012.
I'm sure there gonna be some global changes sooner or later that make people realize we are all in this together. Just like it happens every day now when some disaster strikes and many people rush to help their neighbor, no matter what race they are or what religion they belong to. But I guess those disasters aren't bad enough to make people stop fighting about their stupid religions and what not and caring only for their own asses. We need something bigger, some global catastrophe before people realize, we are all one.

True. In my opinion religion has been useful for one thing - war. (when I say useful I dont mean to imply I support it for that reason).

It's the biggest cause of wars, segregation, differences, etc... the list can go on. If it wasn't around the only big differences that would exist between people would be skin colour... and thats not really an issue today in most parts of the world. That or political views... but its still all very minor. How many civil type wars have there been, people so similar to eachother cause one is catholic the other is jew and another is muslim or something else... so they kill eachother over it, land gets split, and generations down the track people are brought up segregated from the 'others' who once many years ago used to be part of them. Their kids are brought up in a segregated community being taught the other people are bad and never to trust them etc...

You can look at this on a global scale or on local scales... kids getting sent to private religious schools where they never encounter anybody else from another faith and usually are brought up thinking the others arent as good as them or dont accept them as much due to differences they're not familiar with. That for one happened with me, primary school and high school I was in catholic private schools... wasn't until my late teenagers years that I first met a muslim (sad I know especially in a multi-cultural country like Australia)... My friend introduced me to his other mate... this Bosnian guy, cause he was white and didnt fall under the typical middle eastern look I had NO clue he was muslim and when I found out I didnt believe it. But it in the end made no difference to me and it was interesting to make friends with someone different.

Same thing happened regarding Jews. Theres barely any out here in Australia, they live all together in the more wealthy suburbs (no joke intended) and keep to eachother. I went to the states in 07 and was freaked out, every 4th person I met was Jewish and looking back at it I'm glad I went and made friends and got to know them... in the end you're all the same if you put it aside.

 

[DmitryWI]

Pretty bold statement unless you know for sure that English is his first language... He was also explaining his faith without talking down to yours. Kind of a low blow to automatically attack the God he worships without provocation.

Yes, you are right and I apologize... unless English is his first language.
I didn't attack his God, I asked a question. Low blow? What would you call telling people they are going to hell, putting fear in them and try to control their lives?
I hope it didn't sound offensive, just asking questions...

 

[dsade]

First off, I think many people make the error in stereotyping the believers for an entire religion. I realize that many many many Christians can be horrible people but you should base your ideas about the religion off the doctrine, not the person. Many times you will find the doctrine to be completely opposite to what the believer says and does.

With that said, the Bible does say that if you do not put your faith in Jesus Christ you will be thrown into Hell. I am not sure why you find it offensive being that virtually every religion in the world has one way to heaven or paradise or a “good place.” Is it offensive because you do not agree with it? And, could you explain to me how Christians are being intolerant of your beliefs? Could you be acting intolerant of their intolerance?

Also, I just want to let you know that I do respect your opinion although I disagree with it. I don’t want this to turn into an online battle against beliefs but rather just a discussion to understand others opinions and question their beliefs. Thanks for your response in advanced.

Respectfully,

AJC

I find it hilarious that you (and, at risk of generalizing, the majority of religious folk) are oblivious to the offensiveness inherent in your outlook.

 

[DmitryWI]

the Bible does say that if you do not put your faith in Jesus Christ you will be thrown into Hell.

I don't believe God has anything to do with the bible, but just so I can learn more, can you show me where does it say so?

I am not sure why you find it offensive being that virtually every religion in the world has one way to heaven or paradise or a “good place.”

All spiritual teachers, prophets, etc. teach that there's no such thing as "hell" but people who created religions and wrote bible had their own agenda. Control people, make them fearful of God, make them feel guilty and if you don't follow the rules you would be prosecuted.
I think history speaks for itself. And that's why I don't believe in any kind of religion as creation of God.

 

[Zero V]

You all know if anything big happens, our government is going to turn on us right?

 

[dsade]

You all know if anything big happens, our government is going to turn on us right?

AK-47 and 15000 rounds of ammo, along with a handful or individuals I trust with my life FTW.

SPeaking of...I'm planning on stockpiling 25 kilo drums of whey isolate, mass fish oil caps, vitamns/minerals, and WMS...just in case.

 

[Iron Lungz]

AK-47 and 15000 rounds of ammo, along with a handful or individuals I trust with my life FTW.

SPeaking of...I'm planning on stockpiling 25 kilo drums of whey isolate, mass fish oil caps, vitamns/minerals, and WMS...just in case.

You can always come to my hold out. I've been in the "game" of collecting things that will come in handy. I also have 50 acres of land that can be, well, set-up to give all comers a special hello.

 

[nemo]

I wanna come,.. especially if your avi is there!!!

 

[dsade]

You can always come to my hold out. I've been in the "game" of collecting things that will come in handy. I also have 50 acres of land that can be, well, set-up to give all comers a special hello.

the special hello is....I brought a lifetime supply of Havoc.

 

[Iron Lungz]

the special hello is....I brought a lifetime supply of Havoc.

Oh, there will be Havoc... that's a guarantee .

 

[Omen]

You can always come to my hold out. I've been in the "game" of collecting things that will come in handy. I also have 50 acres of land that can be, well, set-up to give all comers a special hello.

:thumbsup: HEHE

Stationary though?

I'll be Nomadic if sh*t hits the fan, finding good cover in daylight to sleep and wake up at night to "acquire" supplies, weapons, food and killing enemies/people competing for resources!

Hey, I never asked to be put in a situation like that, but if I'm forced in it, I'll do whatever I need to do to not only survive, but survive comfortably.

"It is not sufficient that I suceed - all others must fail.”

"The Greatest Happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you. To see his cities reduced to ashes. To see those who love him shrouded and in tears. And to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters."

Genghis Khan

Love that guy! :smite:

Then again, people have been building bunkers and hoarding supplies since 1962 as far as I know(seen pictures of my friend's dad "bunker", maybe even further back, so maybe nothing will happen.

But if Murphy shows up, show him a good time! :FUfinger: :lol:

 

[dsade]

We need to set up an AM rendezvous point.

I vote for Iowa or Nebraska.

 

[Iron Lungz]

:thumbsup: HEHE

Stationary though?

I'll be Nomadic if sh*t hits the fan, finding good cover in daylight to sleep and wake up at night to "acquire" supplies, weapons, food and killing enemies/people competing for resources!

Hey, I never asked to be put in a situation like that, but if I'm forced in it, I'll do whatever I need to do to not only survive, but survive comfortably.

"It is not sufficient that I suceed - all others must fail.”

"The Greatest Happiness is to scatter your enemy and drive him before you. To see his cities reduced to ashes. To see those who love him shrouded and in tears. And to gather to your bosom his wives and daughters."

Genghis Khan

Love that guy! :smite:

Then again, people have been building bunkers and hoarding supplies since 1962 as far as I know(seen pictures of my friend's dad "bunker", maybe even further back, so maybe nothing will happen.

But if Murphy shows up, show him a good time! :FUfinger: :lol:

I bought some old school communication devices a few years ago, and I am still playing around with HAMS.

I even have some seeds put away.

 

[Omen]

We need to set up an AM rendezvous point.

I vote for Iowa or Nebraska.

Kool so I can leave a trail of destruction from FL :lol:

Plus no one wants to be around FL if sh*t hits the fan :nono:, got the SOCOM command in Tampa, strategic place to invade from Cuba/Venezuela especially with the Russian Navy there now , too close to the water is sea level rises, etc...etc.....

 

[dsade]

Kool so I can leave a trail of destruction from FL :lol:

Plus no one wants to be around FL if sh*t hits the fan :nono:, got the SOCOM command in Tampa, strategic place to invade from Cuba/Venezuela especially with the Russian Navy there now , too close to the water is sea level rises, etc...etc.....

I thought Ohio was perfect, but with the seismic fault discussed earlier and now talk of Lake Erie flooding down...maybe not.

Need someplace farm-friendly.

 

[DmitryWI]

I thought Ohio was perfect, but with the seismic fault discussed earlier and now talk of Lake Erie flooding down...maybe not.

Need someplace farm-friendly.

Wisconsin!

 

[DmitryWI]

AK-47 and 15000 rounds of ammo, along with a handful or individuals I trust with my life FTW.

SPeaking of...I'm planning on stockpiling 25 kilo drums of whey isolate, mass fish oil caps, vitamns/minerals, and WMS...just in case.

Can I come live with you? I'll bring few more guns and couple of girls to keep those guns clean.

 

[DmitryWI]

You all know if anything big happens, our government is going to turn on us right?

Unless I'll turn on them first.:bb3:

 

[ozarkaBRAND]

We need to set up an AM rendezvous point.

I vote for Iowa or Nebraska.

I'll be there dudes, granted I don't die.

Sounds awesome.

 

[Lacradocious]

Overpopulation is real, so any natural disaster that may happen will likely kill a lot of people. Humans are unique in nature in that we have shielded ourselves from natural selection. Smart people typically don't have many children and when they do, they normally only have 1 or 2 later in life. A lot of not so intelligent people have an arm-load of kids at an early age. Overall, people aren't that much smarter than they used to be, even though we have more knowledge than ever. The knowledge is concentrated though, within a smaller and smaller percentage of the population in my opinion.

Also, we have modern medicine. We also have members of the population who find it wrong to end human suffering, and allow brain dead or severely sick people to live undignified lives hooked up to machines. We have a penchant to preserve life no matter what, and it has removed natural selection.

Humans are not any smarter than we were 25,000 years ago, we just have more collective knowledge. Go back in time and kidnap a Cro-Magnon baby, bring it to our current time, and that baby could become an engineer or a surgeon as well as anybody can today.

And the Mayan prediction is a new cycle, but a great change is supposed to happen. I think the astronomical prediction is that the Solar System (and Earth with it) will line up and fall directly within the plane of the galaxy.

 

[AJC408]

I find it hilarious that you (and, at risk of generalizing, the majority of religious folk) are oblivious to the offensiveness inherent in your outlook.

I'm sorry the truth offends you. Unfortunately, no matter what me or anyone for that matter says, it's going to be offensive to someone.

Can you answer my questions?

Thanks

 

[AJC408]

I don't believe God has anything to do with the bible, but just so I can learn more, can you show me where does it say so?

Absolutely. Off the top of my head, John 3:16 and John 14:6.
CARM.ORG if you have more questions =]

All spiritual teachers, prophets, etc. teach that there's no such thing as "hell" but people who created religions and wrote bible had their own agenda. Control people, make them fearful of God, make them feel guilty and if you don't follow the rules you would be prosecuted.
I think history speaks for itself. And that's why I don't believe in any kind of religion as creation of God.

Hmm... I'm not sure what you mean by that. Just to name some of the larger systems of belief, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism all believe in a "bad place" like Hell. In each of these religions, they all have 'spiritual teachers, prophects, etc.'

I have never come across any doctrinal evidence that shows the purpose of Christianity to control people.

"If you don't follow the rules you would be prosecuted" (sounds reasonable?) Most rules are put in place to protect you.

Like I said earlier, you need to judge the religion off of the doctrine and not by the sometimes stupid Christians. Yes, these so-called Christians have done horrible things and used religion for their own personal benefit. But again, look back at what the Christian doctrine says! It's sad to say, but Christians do a horrible job of reflecting the teachings of the Bible.

 

[DmitryWI]

John 3:16 (New International Version)

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

John 14:6 (New International Version)

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Where does it say about any kind of "hell"? The way I see it all these verses can be twisted as you see them fit your agenda.
Also bible was written centuries after Jesus was killed, and I fail to see how can you be so sure Jesus actually said it (John 14:6)?

And where did John 3:16 come from? God? John? Who said it?

 

[DmitryWI]

Hmm... I'm not sure what you mean by that. Just to name some of the larger systems of belief, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Judaism all believe in a "bad place" like Hell. In each of these religions, they all have 'spiritual teachers, prophects, etc.'

And every one of them have their own some kind of agenda, based on their religion they belong to and those believes and agenda dictated by that religion. I'm talking about people who don't belong to any religion, their knowledge based on their own experience or they were born with that knowledge or they have abilities to communicate with God.

I have never come across any doctrinal evidence that shows the purpose of Christianity to control people.

Are you kidding me?

"If you don't follow the rules you would be prosecuted" (sounds reasonable?) Most rules are put in place to protect you.

So when God gave everyone free will, it wasn't really free?
There's always price to pay, huh? Sounds like our government, not God.

Like I said earlier, you need to judge the religion off of the doctrine and not by the sometimes stupid Christians. Yes, these so-called Christians have done horrible things and used religion for their own personal benefit. But again, look back at what the Christian doctrine says! It's sad to say, but Christians do a horrible job of reflecting the teachings of the Bible.

I have several Christian friends who are wonderful people, but it makes no difference to me regarding Bible. God is God. Bible is a book written by people.

 

[Dadof2]

I have done some research into this 2012 stuff, and what i have found is that almost everyone has their own ideas as to what will happen, except for the Maya.

Serious Mayan scholars contend that the Maya actually did not put any New Age or apocalyptic significance on December 21 2012. There is considerable evidence that the calendar was just used to figure out when to plant, harvest, and track the movement of the heavenly bodies.

It seems that 2012 and the Mayan Calander has ultimately been adopted by New Agers who have attached their views concerning the "Age of Aquarius" and an impending shift of consciousness. Some of these folks go so far as to say that the Maya were extraterrestrials.

All that being said there is evidence that some screwy things are going on with the Earth's magnetic field, that it is a bit weaker than it was 100 years ago, and that we are possibly facing a pole shift. There is a wide range of speculation regarding the potential dangers of solar storms during a period of weakness in our magnetic field, and even more speculation about what would happen if the poles suddenly shifted (or if a sudden shift is even possible, there is no recorded human history from the last time the Earth's poles shifted).

I do not even pretend to have an opinion on this, just passing on what I have read.

 

[Lacradocious]

I have done some research into this 2012 stuff, and what i have found is that almost everyone has their own ideas as to what will happen, except for the Maya.

Serious Mayan scholars contend that the Maya actually did not put any New Age or apocalyptic significance on December 21 2012. There is considerable evidence that the calendar was just used to figure out when to plant, harvest, and track the movement of the heavenly bodies.

It seems that 2012 and the Mayan Calander has ultimately been adopted by New Agers who have attached their views concerning the "Age of Aquarius" and an impending shift of consciousness. Some of these folks go so far as to say that the Maya were extraterrestrials.

All that being said there is evidence that some screwy things are going on with the Earth's magnetic field, that it is a bit weaker than it was 100 years ago, and that we are possibly facing a pole shift. There is a wide range of speculation regarding the potential dangers of solar storms during a period of weakness in our magnetic field, and even more speculation about what would happen if the poles suddenly shifted (or if a sudden shift is even possible, there is no recorded human history from the last time the Earth's poles shifted).

I do not even pretend to have an opinion on this, just passing on what I have read.

Polar North has shifted to the South Pole many times and on consistent intervals in the geologic record, so it is a real possibility.

 

[Dadof2]

Since this thread has kind of skirted the subject of survival and preparedness. What do you guys think of having colloidal silver on hand to fight infection and sickness in the event of a societal collapse, and the inevitable collapse of our health care system?

 

[DmitryWI]

I'm thinking more like vicodin and vodka.

 

[Aggravated]

It's the interpretations that get me. You might just be able to interpret any of these predictions and make sense out of them. Who is to say they are right or wrong though?

I need to read up on this Edgar Casey guy!

 

[dsade]

It's the interpretations that get me. You might just be able to interpret any of these predictions and make sense out of them. Who is to say they are right or wrong though?

I need to read up on this Edgar Casey guy!

If nobody can say if they are right or wrong (or, no way to demonstrate BEFOREHAND that they apply to anything in particular) then they are so much babblistic masturbation.

 

[Aggravated]

if nobody can say if they are right or wrong (or, no way to demonstrate beforehand that they apply to anything in particular) then they are so much babblistic masturbation.

i know!!!

 

[jarhead]

I thought Ohio was perfect, but with the seismic fault discussed earlier and now talk of Lake Erie flooding down...maybe not.

Need someplace farm-friendly.

Damn! I live on lake erie in ohio! "Heart of it all" my ass.

 

[NattyT]

Im just coming in to this, I havent even checked this thread in weeks bro. As far as my spelling goes, its not that serious. When Im typing im typing, this isnt a report or college term paper. All I have to say is every knee shall bow and mouth confess that jesus is lord. Thats what I belive, period! I dont care what you or any one else has to say. Your fealthy mouths and blasphemy is written down and recorded. It will be addressed, then will see how tough a lot of yall are. Who can stand up to god? Ill continue to pray for yall anyway.

 

[ozarkaBRAND]

Im just coming in to this, I havent even checked this thread in weeks bro. As far as my spelling goes, its not that serious. When Im typing im typing, this isnt a report or college term paper. All I have to say is every knee shall bow and mouth confess that jesus is lord. Thats what I belive, period! I dont care what you or any one else has to say. Your fealthy mouths and blasphemy is written down and recorded. It will be addressed, then will see how tough a lot of yall are. Who can stand up to god? Ill continue to pray for yall anyway.

Stand up to God? God is all, and is in all... so, how can he stand up to himself?

 

[dsade]

Im just coming in to this, I havent even checked this thread in weeks bro. As far as my spelling goes, its not that serious. When Im typing im typing, this isnt a report or college term paper. All I have to say is every knee shall bow and mouth confess that jesus is lord. Thats what I belive, period! I dont care what you or any one else has to say. Your fealthy mouths and blasphemy is written down and recorded. It will be addressed, then will see how tough a lot of yall are. Who can stand up to god? Ill continue to pray for yall anyway.

Interesting...and much like the rest of the pseudoknowledge in religious books, competely useless unless you plan on prostrating yourself as all around you are enslaved or slaughtered or the eaarth itself turns inside out.

Rants are nifty, and completely inane. How about trying to use the tool that we have - called reason - to actually contribute something worth a damn?

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