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Steveoph; said:
I guess I'm just going to have to keep my toes crossed :head:
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Now, you're talking! :)
 
jjohn said:
Just because I did a cycle of just Prop, and I had too much water retention. Since eq is about 50% the aromatization, I figured it would be perfect for me. I still had a prop so I said to myself I might as well kickstart it instead of an harsh oral..


And this is my 2nd cycle inj. I did a few oral ones before.

PCT will be:

The new X Factor, clomid (stop saying nolva works better, doesnt work on me :P ), Sustain Alpha. I might add in a few other nicks and nacks, but this is my base..
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im with ya on that...i like clomid and an ai
 
jjohn said:
Just because I did a cycle of just Prop, and I had too much water retention. Since eq is about 50% the aromatization, I figured it would be perfect for me. I still had a prop so I said to myself I might as well kickstart it instead of an harsh oral..


And this is my 2nd cycle inj. I did a few oral ones before.

PCT will be:

The new X Factor, clomid (stop saying nolva works better, doesnt work on me :P ), Sustain Alpha. I might add in a few other nicks and nacks, but this is my base..
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Interesting. Most people do not see near the bloat with prop as they do Enth or cyp. Did you take an AI along with it? I just think some type of test will definately help you grow better than EQ alone. EQ is weak and must be run for a long time. Most run it 20+ weeks to see good results. But it will work good for you, just don't expect explosive growth. It will be slow and steady. I also think starting the hcg earlier and for a longer period at a lower dose will work better also. I think 250iu e3d would work good and would make pct an snap for you.
 
Resolve said:
I was wondering if you took an AI with the prop myself...
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Running an AI with prop is pointless. Might as well run some winny if what you want is to be dry. Estrogen is an excellent mass builder, makes your cholesterol a lot better, and many other things.

You usually run test for it's mass building qualities. I personnaly beleive that test is excellent. I just had too much bloat from it..

IMO an AI is really in case of emergency. If you never ran it, and want to stay on and have sensitivity problems, you can use some letro, but just IF you have problems.

Nutririon is also really important when you gauge how bloated you can get on something. Test is test. People run prop pre contest, but they're dieting, so it's kinda easy to say that prop is dryer. All depends on your diet, and bf%. The fatter you are, the more aromatization..
 
dg806 said:
Interesting. Most people do not see near the bloat with prop as they do Enth or cyp. Did you take an AI along with it? I just think some type of test will definately help you grow better than EQ alone. EQ is weak and must be run for a long time. Most run it 20+ weeks to see good results. But it will work good for you, just don't expect explosive growth. It will be slow and steady. I also think starting the hcg earlier and for a longer period at a lower dose will work better also. I think 250iu e3d would work good and would make pct an snap for you.
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Yeah, I'm thinking about revising it..
 
Jjohn can i have one please?

You can throw it in with my bottle of peak beta!

Also ive never done an inj AAS and a resource such as that could help AM with a smarter SWG kickin around helping newbs. :thumbsup:
 
silverSurfer said:
I'm in.



Now, imagine if the book itself also turned into a coffee-table... where is Kramer? :)
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Dude id rather have it on my coffee table cause if i had a BIG and interesting book like that in the bathroom id never make it out of the bathroom before my legs went numb.

"Hello youve been in there 45 minutes, are you alive?!"
 
Also, jjohn, I have an empty box of something I want to send to MN so they send me the 10th edition at the end of the year. Is it best to send it to the address they provide, or to someone who works for the company like you?
 
This book seems to be something of interest for me. I am looking into Jose Conseco's advice on anabolics, good stuff.
 
i stumbled upon this when i was browsing the steriod section.


This book would be great for me, since im considering just avoiding the whole Desiger prosteiods/prohormones, or whatever you want to call them.

And jump into stuff thats actually been scientifically proven.

And this book would give me a great start on learning some neccesary information before i venture into anabolics.


I actually almost bought this book, but i used my alloted money for bodybuilding at the nutraplanet sale.

I actually almost bought last years book too.

But i keep thinking why would i need it, if im not going to do steriod within the next 6 months.

Steriods, even for the non user, is a very interested to read.

Im currently about a week into my first h-drol cycle, any cycle ever for that matter. I havent had any changes yet.However, my sex drive has decreased to a point where i know its the h-drol/ Hopefully in the 3rd and 4th weeks it will get better as supposed. But im only running 50-50-50-50, which for my size is not too much.

A book like this, would be very beneficial to me, so i dont just rely on internet sources and anabolicminds.com threads.

Thanks.
 
I enjoyed x-factor throughly and will continue to use it ,when the next version comes out,whenver that is.

i always reccomend that as a non-hormonal supplement that actually works.

But by the way Molecular Nutrion RULES!!!!

and JJohn of course too:lol:
 
Jjohn can I have the book?

I might break my ifpa rules and run a legal compound in this book. I'd like to see what William L says about each one and if any information has changed since the last writeup and especially the updates. its a nice reference book. Good-luck to whom Jjohn picks!
 
jjohn said:
Running an AI with prop is pointless. Might as well run some winny if what you want is to be dry. Estrogen is an excellent mass builder, makes your cholesterol a lot better, and many other things.

You usually run test for it's mass building qualities. I personnaly beleive that test is excellent. I just had too much bloat from it..

IMO an AI is really in case of emergency. If you never ran it, and want to stay on and have sensitivity problems, you can use some letro, but just IF you have problems.

Nutririon is also really important when you gauge how bloated you can get on something. Test is test. People run prop pre contest, but they're dieting, so it's kinda easy to say that prop is dryer. All depends on your diet, and bf%. The fatter you are, the more aromatization..
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never tried the long esters, but I made a cycle of 100 mg eod prop+100 mgs masteron and its true, it was hard to put some weight on the 3 first weeks but I had only quality gains no bloat , just hard muscle.
I personally think that masteron is a wonderful compound to run with test , it keeps estrogen under control probably even with the long esters
 
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Steveoph said:
I would take LLewyn's advice over Consesco anyday :trout:
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Most def, I just find Conseco to a pretty knowledgeable man in the world of anabolics considering the fact he is not a chemist, biology major, or MD, and played sports while juicing.:thumbsup:
 
nunes said:
never tried the long esters, but I made a cycle of 100 mg eod prop+100 mgs masteron and its true, it was hard to put some height on the 3 first weeks but I had only quality gains no bloat , just hard muscle.
I personally think that masteron is a wonderful compound to run with test , it keeps estrogen under control probably even with the long esters
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it made you taller?...lol
 
nunes said:
never tried the long esters, but I made a cycle of 100 mg eod prop+100 mgs masteron and its true, it was hard to put some height on the 3 first weeks but I had only quality gains no bloat , just hard muscle.
I personally think that masteron is a wonderful compound to run with test , it keeps estrogen under control probably even with the long esters
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I think that is true for most people, but everyone is different. And like JJ said, diet can also play a part in it. In that case, I think a low dose Adex would work perferct. Letro IMO is too strong and can play havoc on libido (non existent) and is very bad on lipids.
 
Cub said:
Also, jjohn, I have an empty box of something I want to send to MN so they send me the 10th edition at the end of the year. Is it best to send it to the address they provide, or to someone who works for the company like you?
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Just send it to the provided address. They will take the pics..
 
just got my copy of the book.
its got everything in it from A - Z and all those subscript letters you wanna throw in there too.

ya'll better get in on this thread before its over cuz you don't wanna miss out on this awesome promotion!
 
drummaboyzl said:
just got my copy of the book.
its got everything in it from A - Z and all those subscript letters you wanna throw in there too.

ya'll better get in on this thread before its over cuz you don't wanna miss out on this awesome promotion!
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So if were in it, then thats all we have to do?

Thanks.
 
yeah I ssaw a picture of Patrick Arnold and William Lwel shaking hands or something. the first time they've met after like 10 years of debating on the net. William took action and went over to Patrick. much respect for taking action William!
 
smeton_yea said:
yeah I ssaw a picture of Patrick Arnold and William Lwel shaking hands or something. the first time they've met after like 10 years of debating on the net. William took action and went over to Patrick. much respect for taking action William!
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Interesting! There's so many antagonisms over the web, but there's also a bunch of guys I would love to hear speak. Most of the conferences are far from me in the US, which makes it difficult :(
 
Steveoph said:
Interesting! There's so many antagonisms over the web, but there's also a bunch of guys I would love to hear speak. Most of the conferences are far from me in the US, which makes it difficult :(
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Same here!
 
:dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance:

I want this book
 
Steveoph said:
Interesting! There's so many antagonisms over the web, but there's also a bunch of guys I would love to hear speak. Most of the conferences are far from me in the US, which makes it difficult :(
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I know . i would love to go to a big seminar where a bunch of "guru's and a few professionals speak and share the knowledge.
 
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