Volcom's Optimus PRIME Log

[VolcomX311]

I just spent all morning stimulating our economy.

Cuts are sometimes one of the most exciting things I take on. A dialed in diet and disciplined cardio are about the only thing that causes a physical morph in my body. Strange enough, I'm the happiest during a cut, even though dieting sucks. I like feeling clean and I feel healthier when I know I'm hammering away at cardio.

 

[Irish Cannon]

The standard is to go with 500 cals below maintenance per day, but as John Berardi has successfully shown, sometimes increasing your intake modestly and increasing the amount of physical activity leads to remarkable body recomp effects. He writes about this as "G-Flux". See Invalid Link Removed for his article.

I've always thought highly of this. It just seems better to eat slightly ABOVE maintenance, and then expend the extra calories through training and exercise. It just seems like the right thing to do.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

This is cracking me up...I mentioned fasted training last week and the majority of people jumped on me for even considering it, and now everyone is moving to the fasted training! :rofl:

Most definitely. I remember when I first introduced it, only really B5150 and Snagency picked up the program and modified it to suit their needs. Which is, of course, totally understandable; people will use what has always worked for them, and rightfully so.

However, most will have an immediate backlash to fasted training because of the accepted train of thought in weight-training: Carbs, carbs, carbs, carbs, carbs! I think many do not realize that the body's sole purpose for accumulating fatty acids into stored triglycerides is to use them as energy; and that is why our bodies are so efficient at increasing our WAT [white adipose tissue] stores. Glucose is simply the secondary mechanism for energy provision for most tissue types; this is also why excess glucose can be converted to triglycerides: Triglycerides are a more efficient and compact energy source.

Also, the oxidative phosphorylation of fatty acids has a higher energy yield than the oxidative phosphorylation of glucose, and therefore, provides more energy per gram [remembering a gram of carbohydrates has four calories while a gram of fat has nine calories]. This is due to several factors, including the catalyzing necessary to enter each into the Krebs Cycle, as well as the fact that Fatty Acids are hydrophobic [do not bind to water]. I believe when worked out in proportion, fatty acids carry six times the amount of energy as carbohydrates; and following, if the body relied on carbohydrates as its primary energy source [instead of fatty acids], your body would need to be comprised of about 34% glycogen.

Barring any serious physiological impingements, our bodies are incredibly efficient systems meant to keep energy in almost perfect homeostasis; people seem to think, for whatever reason, that the lipogenic process is somehow precluded from this system! Training fasted merely utilizes the body's own natural processes to maximize performance; it merely utilizes energy stores which would have been wasted.

 

[VolcomX311]

For meal ideas; I think omelets work great. I make my monster daily lol. Some frozen fish fillets can be grilled/microwaved pretty quickly & conveniently. I also think bean salads can make a great meal; if you stick with dark kidney & black beans, some of them have 2:1:1 or Carbs,Fiber, Protein. Throw in some celery, red peppers and vinegars (and some bulk leucine on the side) and you've got a 5 star meal in terms of protein, anti-oxidant, vitamins etc.

While the anti-cortisol route might not have as rapid effects, I think this should help you preserve as much lean muscle mass as possible. Also I know Cissus has anti-glucocorticoid properties in addition to helping with joints which might be a useful addition; although we do have to be careful not to drop your cortisol too much. The standard is to go with 500 cals below maintenance per day, but as John Berardi has successfully shown, sometimes increasing your intake modestly and increasing the amount of physical activity leads to remarkable body recomp effects. He writes about this as "G-Flux". See Invalid Link Removed for his article.

Thanks Steveo. I know the anti-cortisol is not a direct fat attack like other fat burners. This approach is more so to buffer the damage once I get out of hand. There will come a point where I start to "enjoy" cardio and then I'll start to really over indulge in activity.

I have the Reduction, TTA and Yohimbine for a more direct fat attack, I suppose the Lean Xtreme is a bit direct as well. The other supps are for anti-overtraining induced stress, thus anti cortisol. I realize the anti-cort is not a fat loss powerhouse, but its there for a specific role that is very applicable to my way of cutting, so I appreciate your exotic taste in supplements and enlightening me.

As for Cissus and anything else. I'm all tapped out for my allotted supplement budget. I actually exceeded what I wanted to spend with the last minute addition of TTA and I almost got some AP with all that talk between Irish and Mullet in IC's log.

I don't normally win the "should I or shouldn't I buy" debates with myself when it comes to supplements, but for today, I've managed to hold off the AP urge.

AP didn't do THAT much for me in the past, but I wasn't utilizing it in a fasted workout, which I happen to be a fan of during a cut, so.... the temptation is there.

 

[VolcomX311]

Most definitely. I remember when I first introduced it, only really B5150 and Snagency picked up the program and modified it to suit their needs. Which is, of course, totally understandable; people will use what has always worked for them, and rightfully so.

However, most will have an immediate backlash to fasted training because of the accepted train of thought in weight-training: Carbs, carbs, carbs, carbs, carbs! I think many do not realize that the body's sole purpose for accumulating fatty acids into stored triglycerides is to use them as energy; and that is why our bodies are so efficient at increasing our WAT [white adipose tissue] stores. Glucose is simply the secondary mechanism for energy provision for most tissue types; this is also why excess glucose can be converted to triglycerides: Triglycerides are a more efficient and compact energy source.

Also, the oxidative phosphorylation of fatty acids has a higher energy yield than the oxidative phosphorylation of glucose, and therefore, provides more energy per gram [remembering a gram of carbohydrates has four calories while a gram of fat has nine calories]. This is due to several factors, including the catalyzing necessary to enter each into the Krebs Cycle, as well as the fact that Fatty Acids are hydrophobic [do not bind to water]. I believe when worked out in proportion, fatty acids carry six times the amount of energy as carbohydrates; and following, if the body relied on carbohydrates as its primary energy source [instead of fatty acids], your body would need to be comprised of about 34% glycogen.

Barring any serious physiological impingements, our bodies are incredibly efficient systems meant to keep energy in almost perfect homeostasis; people seem to think, for whatever reason, that the lipogenic process is somehow precluded from this system! Training fasted merely utilizes the body's own natural processes to maximize performance; it merely utilizes energy stores which would have been wasted.

Damn you Mullet, you're not helping :nutkick:

 

[VolcomX311]

Mullet, I was looking for that fasted plan for B-fiddy you posted, but I forgot which log you posted it in, could you cut & paste it here?

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Yeah, I can.

I would also say that carbohydrates are amazing, I love them, but: Fasted training has its place in terms of physique enhancement. I do not feel strength suffers [and will probably increase if your diet is sound], but I would not suggest this to a PL'er, or [say] a football player as their main training method.

However, in my experience and the experience of several others, it can be unparalleled in terms of recomposition physique-enhancement.

Upon Rising: Fasted
USPLabs Recreate™ - 2 caps
USPLabs PowerFULL™ - 3 caps
USPLabs AnabolicPump™ - 1 cap
SupperCissus Rx™ - 1g cap

+30 mins later intra w/o drink:
Xtend BCAA - 12.5g
NutraPlanet Leucine - 7g
NutraPlanet Beta Alanine - 3g
NutraPlanet Creatine Mono - 2.5g


Immediately following last set: 1 P-Slin dumped in shake:

+15-30 mins Post Work Out Shake:
Xtend BCAA - 12.5g
NutraPlanet Leucine - 7g
NutraPlanet Beta Alanine - 3g
NutraPlanet Creatine Mono - 2.5g
[insert 90-100g of CHO]

Also, the last meal of the preceding night should be slow-digesting proteins and dense fat calories.

 

[Irish Cannon]

Maaaaaan...Supplements are sweet.

 

[DreamWeaver]

So I could use AP fasted preworkout and pslin immediately afterwards with my preworkout shake. That solves some of my problems as I don't like preworkout meals much.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

So I could use AP fasted preworkout and pslin immediately afterwards with my preworkout shake. That solves some of my problems as I don't like preworkout meals much.

Hypothetically, for sure. I am not sure if it would have the exact same effects as a true fasted training session, but the premise is the same.

I would definitely not suggest this program to somebody who does not know their body's normative response to supplementation and diet, though.

 

[DreamWeaver]

Hypothetically, for sure. I am not sure if it would have the exact same effects as a true fasted training session, but the premise is the same.

I would definitely not suggest this program to somebody who does not know their body's normative response to supplementation and diet, though.

Another thing I was considering is just using bulk Pslin and using it with my last meal before my workout which is 4 hours before and then afterwards.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

That could also work! I thought you were about to say P-Slin prior to a fasted workout, lol. I was like: No, no!

 

[Irish Cannon]

That could also work! I thought you were about to say P-Slin prior to a fasted workout, lol. I was like: No, no!

I still don't know the difference between the two, but I'm not going to ask.

 

[DreamWeaver]

That could also work! I thought you were about to say P-Slin prior to a fasted workout, lol. I was like: No, no!

Yah it's a requirement that I am able to complete the workout :think: maybe I could though if I took enough Jacked....

 

[VolcomX311]

Funny luck.

I went into our storage room here at the firm and found a bottle of MEGA-T Green Tea, "Burns Belly Fat." It's very generic. It's a Green Tea based fat burner with Chromium and Hoodia. I suppose I'll use this during the afternoon, as the stim is negligible.

My Lunch, finally, something I can be proud of enough to share. Chinese Roast Chicken and Leafy Chinese Broccoli, Snag style. There's a big missing space where I had already devoured the chicken leg.

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[VolcomX311]

I took this Mega T thing about 40 min ago. No stim, no anything, so I can't imagine that this would steel away any of my adrenal capacity.

(Just read, 50mg caffeine, no wonder.)

 

[vikinginc]

Most definitely. I remember when I first introduced it, only really B5150 and Snagency picked up the program and modified it to suit their needs. Which is, of course, totally understandable; people will use what has always worked for them, and rightfully so.

However, most will have an immediate backlash to fasted training because of the accepted train of thought in weight-training: Carbs, carbs, carbs, carbs, carbs! I think many do not realize that the body's sole purpose for accumulating fatty acids into stored triglycerides is to use them as energy; and that is why our bodies are so efficient at increasing our WAT [white adipose tissue] stores. Glucose is simply the secondary mechanism for energy provision for most tissue types; this is also why excess glucose can be converted to triglycerides: Triglycerides are a more efficient and compact energy source.

Also, the oxidative phosphorylation of fatty acids has a higher energy yield than the oxidative phosphorylation of glucose, and therefore, provides more energy per gram [remembering a gram of carbohydrates has four calories while a gram of fat has nine calories]. This is due to several factors, including the catalyzing necessary to enter each into the Krebs Cycle, as well as the fact that Fatty Acids are hydrophobic [do not bind to water]. I believe when worked out in proportion, fatty acids carry six times the amount of energy as carbohydrates; and following, if the body relied on carbohydrates as its primary energy source [instead of fatty acids], your body would need to be comprised of about 34% glycogen.

Barring any serious physiological impingements, our bodies are incredibly efficient systems meant to keep energy in almost perfect homeostasis; people seem to think, for whatever reason, that the lipogenic process is somehow precluded from this system! Training fasted merely utilizes the body's own natural processes to maximize performance; it merely utilizes energy stores which would have been wasted.

Mullet, that's the most interesting piece I've seen you post. Very good information. Reps.

 

[VolcomX311]

Mullet, that's the most interesting piece I've seen you post. Very good information. Reps.

I'd like to see Mullet and Strategic play Supplement Jeopardy. "I'll take, need a degree to comprehend my posts for $500 Alex"

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Mullet, that's the most interesting piece I've seen you post. Very good information. Reps.

Gracias, T!

 

[snagency]

I still don't know the difference between the two, but I'm not going to ask.

Simple answer: AP contains Phellodendron (Berberine content), impacts energy systems (i.e. fatty oxidization), as well as nutrient uptake & repartitioning. This is why AP will work in fasted state, no carbs required to make it's impact.

A little excerpt on Berberine:
..berberine acts in part by activating an enzyme in the muscle and liver that is involved in improving sensitivity of the tissue to insulin. This in turn helps lower blood sugar levels. In addition, it seems berberine can help reduce body weight.

Pslin is a glucose regulator, a straight nutrient facilitator; does not contain Berberine, and will be wasted without a large carb load to power it.

So: Pslin=must have big carbs. AP=more versatile, works (on multiple levels) with or without carbs.

This is very simplified, but trying to keep it simple here..

 

[snagency]

Also I see those #'s that you've estimated as your daily caloric expenditure, and I feel they are a bit low. It is hugely variable between individuals, but being ~210, heavily muscled and with a moderately active job, I'd imagine you're expending around ~3500/day, and would want to try starting your cut at between 2500-3000.

Very nice. I would think @3k would be a nice start (with your activity level), and decline every week by 50-100cals intake daily, depending on how aggressive you want to be..

Your question about how to maintain a deficit while eating 6 meals bring me to a question I've been pondering lately; why do we eat the 6 meals? An interesting article Invalid Link Removed points out how 6 meals don't actually speed up the metabolism; but I think a constant source of nutrients is a good idea. However I am going to be doing some more research into the Intermitter Fasting protocol; there might more to it.

Here however I disagree. The more you eat, the faster your metabolism will be. Period. The simple process of digestion creates energy expenditure. Now, obviously you still have to maintain caloric deficit to lose weight, that's a no-brainer. But as for the increased frequency of eating having no impact on metabolism??? Don't agree.

 

[snagency]

Hella conversation goin' on up in here!

Sam, bring on the cut man! :thumbsup:

 

[snagency]

I'm subscribed to toooo many threads.. just got back from shopping awhile ago and had 43 e-mails from AM.com!! :fool2:

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Very nice. I would think @3k would be a nice start (with your activity level), and decline every week by 50-100cals intake daily, depending on how aggressive you want to be..



Here however I disagree. The more you eat, the faster your metabolism will be. Period. The simple process of digestion creates energy expenditure. Now, obviously you still have to maintain caloric deficit to lose weight, that's a no-brainer. But as for the increased frequency of eating having no impact on metabolism??? Don't agree.

For what it is worth, the primary issue I see with the link is its focus on Thermogenesis in regards to body composition. Thermogenic processes are not the whole bag, so to speak, when it comes to body composition.

Further, the one human study had a dietary breakdown of 13/46/41 [P/C/F], and very obviously noted higher nitrogen excretion. This study [and possibly the entire article] is not directly translatable to our diets: The divergence in regards to FFA Oxidation and protein turnover ratios in regards to 13% v., 40% is substantial; even more substantial when you consider 40% in 6 meals v., 40% in 1-2 meals. That is another mistake I see.

Finally, it is a website for Intermittent Fasting. Of course it is going to selectively choose data to say 6 meals is bad!

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Further, the one human study had a dietary breakdown of 13/46/41 [P/C/F], and very obviously noted higher nitrogen excretion. This study [and possibly the entire article] is not directly translatable to our diets: The divergence in regards to FFA Oxidation and protein turnover ratios in regards to 13% v., 40% is substantial; even more substantial when you consider 40% in 6 meals v., 40% in 1-2 meals. That is another mistake I see.

I forgot to add that this point becomes particularly pertinent when you consider these individuals were sedentary. The issue of protein metabolism becomes important when we consider the interplay between tissue synthesis and B.M.R., via catabolic pathways!

 

[snagency]

Finally, it is a website for Intermittent Fasting. Of course it is going to selectively choose data to say 6 meals is bad!

Amen!

 

[snagency]

Add TTA-500 to the arsenal :thumbsup:

I like that add! Simple, low-cost, and effective..

 

[VolcomX311]

I like that add! Simple, low-cost, and effective..

Gracias. I had to cut myself off and take the credit card away, because I had AP and Pslin checked out and waiting for me to submit payment, but I'd spent enough. Maybe later if I run into a wall.

 

[snagency]

Gracias. I had to cut myself off and take the credit card away, because I had AP and Pslin checked out and waiting for me to submit payment, but I'd spent enough. Maybe later if I run into a wall.

Damn, I just realized I been spelling 'gracias' wrong for a long time.. somehow it got into my head 'gracios', and I just now had an epiphany that I'm an illiterate moron.. :think:

:lol:

 

[Steveoph]

Damn, I just realized I been spelling 'gracias' wrong for a long time.. somehow it got into my head 'gracios', and I just now had an epiphany that I'm an illiterate moron.. :think:

:lol:

I spelled recipee for the longest time; I think the word coffee had me fooled :trout:

Also I agreed that the IF fasting article sounded like something was amiss; but I couldn't place it. Thats why I posted it up for you guys to rip into it I enjoy my meals immensely; there's no way I would settle for less lol. And now that I'm bulking, the possibilities are endless

 

[snagency]

Haha.. my uncle (he's in his mid 50's) always spelled forty as 'fourty' his whole life.. and nobody ever said anything to him I guess.. until he wrote me a check a couple years back for $40 and I happened to notice how he spelled it. He was pretty incredulous about it! :toofunny:

 

[VolcomX311]

Official First Day and My Version of HIT

This is dedicated to TG and Thomas. I haven't done HIT since before my time at AM.

AM Cardio: 20 min run in the hills

PM/Pre-Workout Cardio: 30 min on Stairstepper

H.I.T. Back

Lat Pull Downs
305lbs x 6 reps [concentric failure], isometric hold until failure, eccentric resistance until failure. Total around 30 secs between isometric hold/eccentric resistance.

Machine T-Rows
330lbs x 6 reps, isometric failure, eccentric failure. Around 20 secs.

Hammer Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
230lbs x 8 reps, iso failure, ecc failure. Around 18 secs.

Machine, Rows
290lbs x 5 reps, iso failure, eccentric failure. Around 10 secs.

Like TG, I modified HIT to my liking. One set isn't enough, but by the fourth, the strength is gone. Each set has your face grimising and teeth gnashing, great stuff!

I don't know if I'll stick with this, but I've found HIT very effective in a cut.

 

[VolcomX311]

Dinner:

All spinach, chicken salad with tomatoes, cucumbers, bel peppers, carrots and vinagrette dressing. It's official.

 

[VolcomX311]

Damn, I just realized I been spelling 'gracias' wrong for a long time.. somehow it got into my head 'gracios', and I just now had an epiphany that I'm an illiterate moron.. :think:

:lol:

Consider it dialect, maybe you're so fluent in Spanish that you've dipped into regional dialect.

!gracios!
!De Nado!

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[thundergod]

I took this Mega T thing about 40 min ago. No stim, no anything, so I can't imagine that this would steel away any of my adrenal capacity.

(Just read, 50mg caffeine, no wonder.)

Yeah....WOW!! 50 whole mg. of mean caffeine!! ha ha I found these little black coffee shots called STOK. They have a warning on the label that says, "Warning: High Caffeine. Limit 2 per day." Then it goes on to say that it is equivalent to 1 expresso shot and contains 40 mg. of caffeine!! WOW. So freakin' high!! :lol: I could shoot 4 of these little babies and go right to sleep. Oh and get this. It says it's not for sale to those under 18!! Sounds like dangerous stuff. I'd better throw them away. :toofunny:

 

[VolcomX311]

Yeah....WOW!! 50 whole mg. of mean caffeine!! ha ha I found these little black coffee shots called STOK. They have a warning on the label that says, "Warning: High Caffeine. Limit 2 per day." Then it goes on to say that it is equivalent to 1 expresso shot and contains 40 mg. of caffeine!! WOW. So freakin' high!! :lol: I could shoot 4 of these little babies and go right to sleep. Oh and get this. It says it's not for sale to those under 18!! Sounds like dangerous stuff. I'd better throw them away. :toofunny:

40mg might be dangerous to an infant midget baby.

 

[thundergod]

This is dedicated to TG and Thomas. I haven't done HIT since before my time at AM.

AM Cardio: 20 min run in the hills

PM/Pre-Workout Cardio: 30 min on Stairstepper

H.I.T. Back

Lat Pull Downs
305lbs x 6 reps [concentric failure], isometric hold until failure, eccentric resistance until failure. Total around 30 secs between isometric hold/eccentric resistance.

Machine T-Rows
330lbs x 6 reps, isometric failure, eccentric failure. Around 20 secs.

Hammer Pull Downs - Behind The Neck
230lbs x 8 reps, iso failure, ecc failure. Around 18 secs.

Machine, Rows
290lbs x 5 reps, iso failure, eccentric failure. Around 10 secs.

Like TG, I modified HIT to my liking. One set isn't enough, but by the fourth, the strength is gone. Each set has your face grimising and teeth gnashing, great stuff!
I don't know if I'll stick with this, but I've found HIT very effective in a cut.

Thanks for the dedication and you just know that "Thunder-Likey"!!
HIT:Hit It Tough!! :twisted:

 

[snagency]

Consider it dialect, maybe you're so fluent in Spanish that you've dipped into regional dialect.

!gracios!
!De Nado!

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You're too kind Sam.

My anal self was fixing to go thru every post I could remember posting 'gracios' and fix it! :toofunny:

Ahh, anality & OCD has it's drawbacks..

 

[VolcomX311]

You're too kind Sam.

My anal self was fixing to go thru every post I could remember posting 'gracios' and fix it! :toofunny:

Ahh, anality & OCD has it's drawbacks..

haha, you and me, BOTH!!!

My OCD effects my workouts sometimes, especially HIIT sprints.

Just got back from Trader Joes, I picked myself up some steel cut oats and the most basic loaf of Ezekiel bread and natty butter. I saw some Cashew Butter which looked awesome, but its about $5, so I went with the $1.69 natty butter.

I can't do wheat pastas, for whatever reason, I just can't get it down my mouth (no homo). I once made an entire pot of wheat spaghetti for the week, I took one bite and tossed the entire pot it was so disgusting to me. I wished I were more like IC in this sense, he seems to enjoy wheat pastas.

 

[snagency]

haha, you and me, BOTH!!!

My OCD effects my workouts sometimes, especially HIIT sprints.

Just got back from Trader Joes, I picked myself up some steel cut oats and the most basic loaf of Ezekiel bread and natty butter. I saw some Cashew Butter which looked awesome, but its about $5, so I went with the $1.69 natty butter.

I can't do wheat pastas, for whatever reason, I just can't get it down my mouth (no homo). I once made an entire pot of wheat spaghetti for the week, I took one bite and tossed the entire pot it was so disgusting to me. I wished I were more like IC in this sense, he seems to enjoy wheat pastas.

Awesome!! :thumbsup:

Almond butter is probably the best bet as far as that goes. Never tried cashew butter.. hmm.

Preferentially, I'd rather see you you stay away from the wheat pasta anyway, so your issues with that does not make me sad! :lol:

I'm excited for you brother! :dance:

 

[Irish Cannon]

I can't do wheat pastas, for whatever reason, I just can't get it down my mouth (no homo). I once made an entire pot of wheat spaghetti for the week, I took one bite and tossed the entire pot it was so disgusting to me. I wished I were more like IC in this sense, he seems to enjoy wheat pastas.

I LOVE wheat pasta!

 

[VolcomX311]

4th meal, i didn't make 6 today.

5oz turkey sausage and once slice of Ezekiel bread wrapped around it. Healthy man hot dog. Small glass of fat free milk.

It feels great to be eating this clean again.

 

[snagency]

haha, you and me, BOTH!!!

My OCD effects my workouts sometimes, especially HIIT sprints.

Haha, yeah, obviously my OCD affects my training as well.

The worst part is, I have slight dyslexia as well, altho I've learned to control it better as I've aged. But, the biggest part of my OCD is obsessing on my dyslexia.. I have to re-read everything I write or type, to make sure I haven't messed something up.. it's a vicious cycle! :frustrate

 

[VolcomX311]

I could make 5 if I push my last all protein meal at 9pm. I wouldn't want to eat later then that, right?

 

[snagency]

4th meal, i didn't make 6 today.

5oz turkey sausage and once slice of Ezekiel bread wrapped around it. Healthy man hot dog. Small glass of fat free milk.

It feels great to be eating this clean again.

Great man.. we gotta work on you getting those 6 meals in tho. Every 2.5-3 hours man. Like a freaking clock.

 

[Irish Cannon]

Haha, yeah, obviously my OCD affects my training as well.

The worst part is, I have slight dyslexia as well, altho I've learned to control it better as I've aged. But, the biggest part of my OCD is obsessing on my dyslexia.. I have to re-read everything I write or type, to make sure I haven't messed something up.. it's a vicious cycle! :frustrate

Haha. I do this too. I always reread my messages and posts. The worst is when I'm traveling or something and I check my flight information about 500 times.

 

[snagency]

Haha. I do this too. I always reread my messages and posts. The worst is when I'm traveling or something and I check my flight information about 500 times.

Ohhhhh yeah bro, been there!

 

[VolcomX311]

Haha, yeah, obviously my OCD affects my training as well.

The worst part is, I have slight dyslexia as well, altho I've learned to control it better as I've aged. But, the biggest part of my OCD is obsessing on my dyslexia.. I have to re-read everything I write or type, to make sure I haven't messed something up.. it's a vicious cycle! :frustrate

You must have been an English teacher's dream with your papers.

 

[snagency]

I could make 5 if I push my last all protein meal at 9pm. I wouldn't want to eat later then that, right?

Generally speaking, not within 2 hrs. of bed.

 

[VolcomX311]

Great man.. we gotta work on you getting those 6 meals in tho. Every 2.5-3 hours man. Like a freaking clock.

I know, I'll have to wake up early enough so i can get my fasted AM cardio in, in time to space out 6 meals.

I suppose I'll figure that out right now. Time to start packing meals.