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2009's biggest product is here- a sneak preview from AN :)

Guejsn said:
You might be surprised, bud. Australia plays by the WADA rules (and then some), so we'll see...
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Would you mind explaining that comment? I am very unknowledgable bout customs etc? who is the WADA?
Also, when "it" comes out, should i order immediately and try get it through before it gets on their radar?
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
Would you mind explaining that comment? I am very unknowledgable bout customs etc? who is the WADA?
Also, when "it" comes out, should i order immediately and try get it through before it gets on their radar?
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I never said you were unknowledgeable (although it never hurts to ask and learn what you can and can't get, etc.).

WADA is the World Anti-Doping Association. Anything on their "prohibited substances" list will most likely supposedly NOT be allowed through Customs. (Of course, there may also be other substances, such as pharmaceutical drugs/products that may be "illegal" as well).

Regardless of WHEN (although, ordering it when it comes out will reduce the risk of having to WAIT for it) you order it, if Asutralian Customs is as anal as you infer, then they will open it and look anyways. Any Customs official who is worth their salt would know by looking at an ingredient profile whether or not the product should be 'allowed' through (but most don't). And if they are anything like over here, then anything labelled as "Supplements" under the 'Product Description' on the label gets scrutinized EXTRA carefully.
 
Guejsn said:
I never said you were unknowledgeable (although it never hurts to ask and learn what you can and can't get, etc.).

WADA is the World Anti-Doping Association. Anything on their "prohibited substances" list will most likely supposedly NOT be allowed through Customs. (Of course, there may also be other substances, such as pharmaceutical drugs/products that may be "illegal" as well).

Regardless of WHEN (although, ordering it when it comes out will reduce the risk of having to WAIT for it) you order it, if Asutralian Customs is as anal as you infer, then they will open it and look anyways. Any Customs official who is worth their salt would know by looking at an ingredient profile whether or not the product should be 'allowed' through (but most don't). And if they are anything like over here, then anything labelled as "Supplements" under the 'Product Description' on the label gets scrutinized EXTRA carefully.
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Damn it, we are screwed(fellow Aussies and kiwis) I guess my only hope is that its NOT hormonal. then our already slim chances are non existant :-(
 
OzzY SluGGa said:
Damn it, we are screwed(fellow Aussies and kiwis) I guess my only hope is that its NOT hormonal. then our already slim chances are non existant :-(
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Let's just say that if I wanted it, I'd be able to get it :D
 
Guejsn said:
Let's just say that if I wanted it, I'd be able to get it :D
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Lol, well would you help me out?? Happy to PM or e mail if you dont wanna post. Also you know what it is cause you work for AN dont you, so you may have an idea if we re gonna struggle to get it.....:D
 
more info :D :aargh:
 
I somehow missed this. Based on my past experiences with AN products (especially RPM, Drive, and IGF-2), I am expecting this to be exceptional
 
Rodja said:
I somehow missed this. Based on my past experiences with AN products (especially RPM, Drive, and IGF-2), I am expecting this to be exceptional
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Don't you worry, Rodja. It WILL be!


OzzY SluGGa said:
Lol, well would you help me out?? Happy to PM or e mail if you dont wanna post. Also you know what it is cause you work for AN dont you, so you may have an idea if we re gonna struggle to get it.....:D
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Yes, I know what it is.

I'm also going to say that I'm NOT the Australian distributor of AN products (I deal with NZ, but can refer you). But, as I said before, since it's probably not likely to be sold IN Australia or NZ, so you're best off getting it DIRECTLY from AN HQ.
 
Inarius said:
are we lookin at caps? powder?
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hair gel? toothpaste?

Ok so more of my results :) i gained

14lbs
around 1/4 inch on waist
7/8 inch on chest
3/8 on bis
between 1/8-1/4 on forearms
3/4 on shoulders
and tendonitis from pushing myself with the strength gains, which is why i stopped the cycle. I thought it was a sprain at first, but its not. so no lifting for me now for a while. suckage. I pushed myself hard because it felt so good, and obviously pushed too hard
 
EasyEJL said:
hair gel? toothpaste?

Ok so more of my results :) i gained

14lbs
around 1/4 inch on waist
7/8 inch on chest
3/8 on bis
between 1/8-1/4 on forearms
3/4 on shoulders
and tendonitis from pushing myself with the strength gains, which is why i stopped the cycle. I thought it was a sprain at first, but its not. so no lifting for me now for a while. suckage. I pushed myself hard because it felt so good, and obviously pushed too hard
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Wow!! now lets talk strength gains...
 
my lifting style isn't well suited to showing it, as i mostly use dumbbells and dont particularly lift for strenght gains. but I was up a good 10% on weights on pretty much everything, basically broke my all time prs on everything except squats (and I hadnt done legs at all for almost a month prior to starting this)

probably the exercise I noticed it the most on were lateral + front raises oddly enough. those 2 are ones I hadn't seen any weight progress on in a long time.
 
EasyEJL said:
hair gel? toothpaste?

Ok so more of my results :) i gained

14lbs
around 1/4 inch on waist
7/8 inch on chest
3/8 on bis
between 1/8-1/4 on forearms
3/4 on shoulders
and tendonitis from pushing myself with the strength gains, which is why i stopped the cycle. I thought it was a sprain at first, but its not. so no lifting for me now for a while. suckage. I pushed myself hard because it felt so good, and obviously pushed too hard
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This means nothing without proof, sorry i need evidence, i dont bother with whats written so much anymore, i need PICS , Ive seen your old pics, after this we should be seeing a marked difference, unless it was all water that vanished after the supplement was stopped. or just glycogen retention, i dont want to be fobed off with i put on 14lbs in 2 weeks or whatever it is, but i have no proof, if there is hard evidence im sold.
 
Outside Backer said:
sugar and spice and everything nice :D
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Good to know !

As we all know sugar is what makes Cell Tech Hardcore so potent (75 grams of it per serving :eek:).. now we can all rest easy knowing we're going to get some serious gains !

j/k with ya's lol

..can't wait to hear more about this product AN :thumbsup:
 
AK32408 said:
Good to know !

As we all know sugar is what makes Cell Tech Hardcore so potent (75 grams of it per serving :eek:).. now we can all rest easy knowing we're going to get some serious gains !

j/k with ya's lol

..can't wait to hear more about this product AN :thumbsup:
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OK, I'll drop a few hints and recap what we know since we'll be releasing a lot more tech info (most likely) tomorrow. Some of you smarter guys should be able to do the math:

It comes in capsules.

It is a completely new and novel compound.

You take it in 4-5 week cycles.

Gains which average ~15 lbs lean mass in a month, + massive increases in strength, good looks, charm and wit.

(Individual results may vary on the last three):nutkick:

Sugar-free.

Caffeine-free.

Sodium-free.
 
donorrell said:
OK, I'll drop a few hints and recap what we know since we'll be releasing a lot more tech info (most likely) tomorrow. Some of you smarter guys should be able to do the math:

It comes in capsules.

It is a completely new and novel compound.

You take it in 4-5 week cycles.

Gains which average ~15 lbs lean mass in a month, + massive increases in strength, good looks, charm and wit.

(Individual results may vary on the last three):nutkick:

Sugar-free.

Caffeine-free.

Sodium-free.
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Non methyl new compound? perhaps one with a time release system allowing more of the product to be assimilated by the body, hormonal, and from that probably one of the more potent ones, but as you say novel and unique, it has to be truley special, if it could do this and isnt hormonal, then that would make it very special.

, Without any inside info, i dont know what to guess..stop the suspense already
 
donorrell; said:
OK, I'll drop a few hints and recap what we know since we'll be releasing a lot more tech info (most likely) tomorrow. Some of you smarter guys should be able to do the math:

It comes in capsules.

It is a completely new and novel compound.

You take it in 4-5 week cycles.

Gains which average ~15 lbs lean mass in a month, + massive increases in strength, good looks, charm and wit.

(Individual results may vary on the last three):nutkick:

Sugar-free.

Caffeine-free.

Sodium-free.
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I think I can place the category and some MoAs! Will wait for confirmation.
 
donorrell said:
Gains which average ~15 lbs lean mass in a month, + massive increases in strength, good looks, charm and wit.

(Individual results may vary on the last three):nutkick:
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that definitely didn't work for joe, he almost lost a thumb on it :D
 
russianstar said:
This means nothing without proof, sorry i need evidence, i dont bother with whats written so much anymore, i need PICS , Ive seen your old pics, after this we should be seeing a marked difference, unless it was all water that vanished after the supplement was stopped. or just glycogen retention, i dont want to be fobed off with i put on 14lbs in 2 weeks or whatever it is, but i have no proof, if there is hard evidence im sold.
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i didn't take good before or after pics, and then in depression over the tendonitis binged on cookies and basically everything else i could stuff in my mouth over the holidays so pics now wouldn't be very impressive. i'm currently dieting back down and will use this again though
 
EasyEJL said:
i didn't take good before or after pics, and then in depression over the tendonitis binged on cookies and basically everything else i could stuff in my mouth over the holidays so pics now wouldn't be very impressive. i'm currently dieting back down and will use this again though
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I hear ya, bud...I'm taking my before pics / video today. VERY embarrassing, as I've been working alot, training very little and stuffing my face with holiday treats - I look like sh*t.:o

Between posts here today I'm tweaking up my new diet and training schedule and am about to reintroduce myself my eliptical.:gas:

90-days from now, I will be a different person. Can't wait!
 
To me this just says bull...sorry but im afraid i dont believe the hype now, its a typical excuse.
 
russianstar said:
To me this just says bull...sorry but im afraid i dont believe the hype now, its a typical excuse.
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Before you go getting all impulsive and believing this is just hype and blah blah blah just have some patience. Wait to hear the science and then make your decision. Until then...relax and take a damn chill pill! LOL. :D

Cheers!:cheers:
 
donorrell said:
I hear ya, bud...I'm taking my before pics / video today. VERY embarrassing, as I've been working alot, training very little and stuffing my face with holiday treats - I look like sh*t.:o

Between posts here today I'm tweaking up my new diet and training schedule and am about to reintroduce myself my eliptical.:gas:

90-days from now, I will be a different person. Can't wait!
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So what kind of training program you putting yourself through big guy?

Cheers!:cheers:
 
SamBoz19 said:
So what kind of training program you putting yourself through big guy?

Cheers!:cheers:
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A cross between PX90 and Mentner's program...heavy, then light, then agility, then repeat. I'm going to take a lesson from Dirk's playbook and work on overall fitness as well as mass.

Honestly the biggest change will be diet...I've been horrible in that department.
 
I'm still getting excited :)
 
crowpass said:
god damnit, sounds like another ph!
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but what if it's not? I don't see any other products out there that can lead to gains of 14lbs that arn't PH/DS. well apart from celltech :toofunny:
 
a great non-methyl would be nice. but from the looks of it it seems it'll be stronger...something like mdrol.

15lbs added to 160lb guys who only started working out and eating correctly once they started popping pills? or 220lb guys who know their **** and gained 15lbs?
 
russianstar said:
All saying no pics because you ate to much, maybe the gain v was from over eating lol.
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hence why I am doing a video log- I stay between 6-8% bf- and you guys will be able to see what I look like at the start, and at the finish, and in between- and the video documentation will go up the day it was shot (or maybe the day after, depends on how busy we are)- believe me, you will see some results, and they won't be because of overeating, LOL...

I will be starting @ roughly the 208-210 lb. range @ about 7% (I came up a little over the holidays)-and to answer Nosinmyveins- I am one of those "experienced" guys that you are speaking of :D

my goal is to get to 220-225 @ 7%, IN ONE MONTH :)
 
rms80 said:
hence why I am doing a video log- I stay between 6-8% bf- and you guys will be able to see what I look like at the start, and at the finish, and in between- and the video documentation will go up the day it was shot (or maybe the day after, depends on how busy we are)- believe me, you will see some results, and they won't be because of overeating, LOL
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Awesome, thats all i need, just positive evidence, i trust you guys, but many years of reported wonder drugs have made me loose a little faith.
 
russianstar said:
Awesome, thats all i need, just positive evidence, i trust you guys, but many years of reported wonder drugs have made me loose a little faith.
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hopefully you'll be able to regain a little faith after AN wow's us all :)
 
russianstar said:
Awesome, thats all i need, just positive evidence, i trust you guys, but many years of reported wonder drugs have made me loose a little faith.
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and We appreciate that trust- as a company, our goal is to have the best product in each and every category- Don and I have discussed this extensively, and one of our fundamental directives as a company is NOT to prostitute our brand by making bogus claims- it is not a good long-term strategy- or even a profitable one....

We want to create a culture of happy customers that feel confident recommending our brand to friends, family members, and loved ones- because we deliver on what we promise. Trust is the key to gaining respect- and how are you going to trust me if I tell you something about our products that you find out later is not true, just to get you to buy a bottle?

To me, that is a very shitty marketing strategy :)

I want you to buy 10 bottles of each of our products, simply because the product is effective, you understand the pro's and con's of the product because we deliver the technical reasoning/support behind the formulation and the safest and most effective way to use the product, and when you see our logo on a product, it is something that you know you can trust...because the company and people who you buy the product from live and breath supplements (and we do):head:
 
rms80 said:
and We appreciate that trust- as a company, our goal is to have the best product in each and every category- Don and I have discussed this extensively, and one of our fundamental directives as a company is NOT to prostitute our brand by making bogus claims- it is not a good long-term strategy- or even a profitable one....

We want to create a culture of happy customers that feel confident recommending our brand to friends, family members, and loved ones- because we deliver on what we promise. Trust is the key to gaining respect- and how are you going to trust me if I tell you something about our products that you find out later is not true, just to get you to buy a bottle?

To me, that is a very shitty marketing strategy :)

I want you to buy 10 bottles of each of our products, simply because the product is effective, you understand the pro's and con's of the product because we deliver the technical reasoning/support behind the formulation and the safest and most effective way to use the product, and when you see our logo on a product, it is something that you know you can trust...because the company and people who you buy the product from live and breath supplements (and we do):head:
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That my friend is a great reply, thankyou, now i wait with eager anticipation for the unveiling of this product, one i hope to add to my arsenal in trying to reach my goals.
Reps:thumbsup:
 
donorrell said:
OK, I'll drop a few hints and recap what we know since we'll be releasing a lot more tech info (most likely) tomorrow. Some of you smarter guys should be able to do the math:

It comes in capsules.

It is a completely new and novel compound.

You take it in 4-5 week cycles.

Gains which average ~15 lbs lean mass in a month, + massive increases in strength, good looks, charm and wit.

(Individual results may vary on the last three):nutkick:

Sugar-free.

Caffeine-free.

Sodium-free.
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Scary thought...cuz I am already one good looking and charming S.O.B :head:
 
donorrell said:
OK, I'll drop a few hints and recap what we know since we'll be releasing a lot more tech info (most likely) tomorrow. Some of you smarter guys should be able to do the math:

It comes in capsules.

It is a completely new and novel compound.

You take it in 4-5 week cycles.

Gains which average ~15 lbs lean mass in a month, + massive increases in strength, good looks, charm and wit.

(Individual results may vary on the last three):nutkick:

Sugar-free.

Caffeine-free.

Sodium-free.
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This is really, really, really hard to believe. I wouldn't even expect 15lbs in a month (that I would keep at least) from Superdrol.
 
EasyEJL said:
hair gel? toothpaste?

Ok so more of my results :) i gained

14lbs
around 1/4 inch on waist
7/8 inch on chest
3/8 on bis
between 1/8-1/4 on forearms
3/4 on shoulders
and tendonitis from pushing myself with the strength gains, which is why i stopped the cycle. I thought it was a sprain at first, but its not. so no lifting for me now for a while. suckage. I pushed myself hard because it felt so good, and obviously pushed too hard
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Okay, that's a bit more solid.... over what time period was that, the 4-5 week cycle? Looks like you didn't gain much fat from the waist measurement, how did you find it in that respect (i assume you were bulking given the results).

Cheers for the info
 
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