Thundergod's Mad Methyl Meltdown!!!

And The Mystery Compound Is.......

Alright. The moment that some of you are still waiting for. Not many are still wondering though. LOL Most have already did their junior detective work and have solved the mystery. But for the rest, the mystery compound that puts the "Mad" in the "mad methyl meltdown" is: ORAL TRENBOLONE. Or also known as Methyl Trienolone. The sh*t that supposedly killed Superman! Good thing that liquid Kryptonite doesn't affect the Son of Odin! Seriously, for all who are concerned (and I surely am), I will be very careful with this one. I have been mega-dosing Milk Thistle @4 grams and Alpha Lipoic Acid @800 mg. everyday for the last 2 weeks. I've been on the Milk Thistle for the last 2 months solid. I will continue this liver-support plan all the way through PCT and beyond. For at least 1 month beyond PCT. I will get bloodwork done before the end of the year and post the results here. Here's how I'm planning on taking the Oral Trenbolone: The stuff I have is 10MG per ML. And I have 10 ML of it. So that's 200 of the 500 mcg. doses that are considered generally safe. 200 doses!! Damn, will I ever use up all of this sh*t??!! I'll be dosing it with a diabetic slin-pin. 2.5 units will be 250 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. I'll probably go up to 5 units (500 mcg.) for the second week. The slin-pin is .3 of a ML or CC. There's 30 units marked on the syringe. The full syringe would be 3 mg. of Oral Trenbolone. So each of the 30 units would be 100 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. If my math is flawed, somebody please correct me. But I think it is right.
 
thundergod said:
Alright. The moment that some of you are still waiting for. Not many are still wondering though. LOL Most have already did their junior detective work and have solved the mystery. But for the rest, the mystery compound that puts the "Mad" in the "mad methyl meltdown" is: ORAL TRENBOLONE. Or also known as . The sh*t that supposedly killed Superman! Good thing that liquid Kryptonite doesn't affect the Son of Odin! Seriously, for all who are concerned (and I surely am), I will be very careful with this one. I have been mega-dosing Milk Thistle @4 grams and Alpha Lipoic Acid @800 mg. everyday for the last 2 weeks. I've been on the Milk Thistle for the last 2 months solid. I will continue this liver-support plan all the way through PCT and beyond. For at least 1 month beyond PCT. I will get bloodwork done before the end of the year and post the results here. Here's how I'm planning on taking the Oral Trenbolone: The stuff I have is 10MG per ML. And I have 10 ML of it. So that's 200 of the 500 mcg. doses that are considered generally safe. 200 doses!! Damn, will I ever use up all of this sh*t??!! I'll be dosing it with a diabetic slin-pin. 2.5 units will be 250 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. I'll probably go up to 5 units (500 mcg.) for the second week. The slin-pin is .3 of a ML or CC. There's 30 units marked on the syringe. The full syringe would be 3 mg. of Oral Trenbolone. So each of the 30 units would be 100 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. If my math is flawed, somebody please correct me. But I think it is right.
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Awesome bro, im really interested to see how this goes for you, i would never touch the stuff, im not as hardcore as you, but i wrote an article on this for one of my exams here in russia, The methyl group added should make Methyl Trienolone less androgenic, but actualy in this case it does the opposit, also it will shut you down very hard, i know youve done tons of research TG, and you look after yourself, i found some information that dessicated liver, and vitamin b6 is vital if you use this compound the enzyme in dessicated liver cytochrome p-450 helps your liver recover, plus you know the value of b6. Please be carefull with this if you notice anything wrong like dark bags under your eyes or yellowing of the skin stop. But i know that you have everything in check im looking out for you remember your darschas godfather!!! :head:

One other thing it will cause an aggravation of the edema from dbol, even though it doesnt aromatize, it does bind almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor, L-dopa could help here, and of course high dosage of B6, all the best...Russian
 
Light weight and high reps PP...hehheh
 
russianstar said:
i wrote an article on this for one of my exams here in russia, The methyl group added should make Methyl Trienolone less androgenic, but actualy in this case it does the opposit, also it will shut you down very hard, i know youve done tons of research TG
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I've been researching it for months now. Is there any way you could post that article you wrote on methyl trienolone brother? I'd be ever so thankful. :box:
 
My Oral Trenbolone comes in 10 MG per every ML. The slin-pin is .3 of a ML or CC. There's 30 units marked on the syringe. The full syringe would be 3 mg. of Oral Trenbolone. So each of the 30 units would be 100 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. If my math is flawed, somebody please correct me. Can some of you mathmatically inclined people make sure my calculations are correct? I'd really appreciate a lot of opinions.
 
thundergod said:
Alright. The moment that some of you are still waiting for. Not many are still wondering though. LOL Most have already did their junior detective work and have solved the mystery. But for the rest, the mystery compound that puts the "Mad" in the "mad methyl meltdown" is: ORAL TRENBOLONE. Or also known as Methyl Trienolone. The sh*t that supposedly killed Superman! Good thing that liquid Kryptonite doesn't affect the Son of Odin! Seriously, for all who are concerned (and I surely am), I will be very careful with this one. I have been mega-dosing Milk Thistle @4 grams and Alpha Lipoic Acid @800 mg. everyday for the last 2 weeks. I've been on the Milk Thistle for the last 2 months solid. I will continue this liver-support plan all the way through PCT and beyond. For at least 1 month beyond PCT. I will get bloodwork done before the end of the year and post the results here. Here's how I'm planning on taking the Oral Trenbolone: The stuff I have is 10MG per ML. And I have 10 ML of it. So that's 200 of the 500 mcg. doses that are considered generally safe. 200 doses!! Damn, will I ever use up all of this sh*t??!! I'll be dosing it with a diabetic slin-pin. 2.5 units will be 250 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. I'll probably go up to 5 units (500 mcg.) for the second week. The slin-pin is .3 of a ML or CC. There's 30 units marked on the syringe. The full syringe would be 3 mg. of Oral Trenbolone. So each of the 30 units would be 100 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. If my math is flawed, somebody please correct me. But I think it is right.
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HAHA, YES I WAS RIGHT :D (even though everyone else knew what it was :o)

Best of luck with it. I've been reading a log on someone taking it (in conjunction with a lot of other stuff pinned). He was doing 500mcg daily and said it blew tren ace @ 200mg ED out of the water!!! So be careful on this one. Good to see you're getting bloodwork (IMO get it straight after the cycle/PCT). Its a necessary with this compound
 
tnick7 said:
HAHA, YES I WAS RIGHT :D (even though everyone else knew what it was :o)

Best of luck with it. I've been reading a log on someone taking it (in conjunction with a lot of other stuff pinned). He was doing 500mcg daily and said it blew tren ace @ 200mg ED out of the water!!! So be careful on this one. Good to see you're getting bloodwork (IMO get it straight after the cycle/PCT). Its a necessary with this compound
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Could you give me a link to this log bro? :think:
 
tnick7 said:
HAHA, YES I WAS RIGHT :D (even though everyone else knew what it was :o)

Best of luck with it. I've been reading a log on someone taking it (in conjunction with a lot of other stuff pinned). He was doing 500mcg daily and said it blew tren ace @ 200mg ED out of the water!!! So be careful on this one. Good to see you're getting bloodwork (IMO get it straight after the cycle/PCT). Its a necessary with this compound
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Oh Sh1t son, This is going to be some serious ****. Tren makes you so fukcing strong. MMMMMMMMMMMM
 
thundergod said:
I've been researching it for months now. Is there any way you could post that article you wrote on methyl trienolone brother? I'd be ever so thankful. :box:
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I will translate it and post it here as quick as i can bro, anything for you TG.:afro:
 
thundergod said:
My Oral Trenbolone comes in 10 MG per every ML. The slin-pin is .3 of a ML or CC. There's 30 units marked on the syringe. The full syringe would be 3 mg. of Oral Trenbolone. So each of the 30 units would be 100 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. If my math is flawed, somebody please correct me. Can some of you mathmatically inclined people make sure my calculations are correct? I'd really appreciate a lot of opinions.
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Yes TG each unit would equal 100mcg of oral.. 30 x 100mcg= 30mg 100mcg x 10 = 1000mcg or 1mg ,1mg is the same as 1000ml

1ml = 10mg so 3mg divided by 100mcg gives you 30. hope this helps, its much harder doing this in english. Much love TG.:hammer:
 
I have translated everything as best i can here, i had some if it already in english for my molecular exam in english, so at least that helped...


Pharmaceutical Name: Methyltrienolone
Chemical structure: 17-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one,17b-ol
Molecular weight of base: 284.3974


A synthetic non-aromatizable androgen and anabolic steroid. It binds strongly to the androgen receptor and has therefore also been used as an affinity label for this receptor in the prostate and in prostatic tumors.
pubchem.

Molecular Weight 284.39266 [g/mol]
Molecular Formula C19H24O2
XLogP 2.3
H-Bond Donor 1
H-Bond Acceptor 2
Rotatable Bond Count 0
Tautomer Count 5
Exact Mass 284.17763
MonoIsotopic Mass 284.17763
Topological Polar Surface Area 37.3
Heavy Atom Count 21
Formal Charge 0
Complexity 609
Isotope Atom Count 0
Defined Atom StereoCenter Count 4
Undefined Atom StereoCenter Count 0
Defined Bond StereoCenter Count 0
Undefined Bond StereoCenter Count 0
Covalently-Bonded Unit Count 1

methyl trienolone, is reported to be very active in extremely small doses (mcg?). This indicates that trenbolone itself is readily metabolized by the liver, and it may not have the toxicity that some attribute to it.However real world studies suggest it could be the most heptoxic androgenic compound available
Originaly this was thought to be best used at 5-15mg a day, closer examination showed a lot less would be sufficient, 200mcg looks a lot safer, some have used 500mcg safely500-750mcg dose was found to be (*relatively) safe, and (*roughly) as effective as 150-225mgs of Trenbolone Acetate, It is an extremely potent androgen, with more binding than even DHT2,
What is interesting is that it seems to show nearly no binding for sex-hormone binding proteins, which makes it a popular choice in androgen receptor studies3, since it will demonstrate equal binding in all tissues regardless of the presence and amount of these proteins. No doubt this plays a role in its supposed binding capacity. In this instance the 17-alpha-alkylation may have played a key role, since it has been demonstrated a multitude of times that 17-alpha-methyl groups decrease the binding for sex-hormone binding proteins as well as most other structures, and due to its triple double bond, trenbolone really didn't bind well to these to begin with.
What this means is despite its massive potential, it still causes huge suppression to a users sex drive, shuting the user down very quickly and very hard, Another problem is that it still binds almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor3,So if you are combining it with compounds that aromatize, test ethanate for instance you will actualy aggravate the edema you have, and also more importatly aggravate any existing gyno you may have.
It has been thought that even though this compound doesnt show a particular binding to any particular receptor, if one was suffering with a weak or enflamed prostate, this would be the last compound to consider,
If you were able to get your hands on the real methyl trenbolone, it would be best for a short period, no longer than 2 weeks as it is so much more heptoxic than even halostin, when halostin is taken at 60 mg for 9 days or more massive damage can be done to the liver, even though methyltrienolone is used in mcg, because of its potency it will cause incredible damage very quickly to the liver,Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk thistle, dessicated liver,because of the special enzyme it contains(cytochrome P-450, wich studies have shown can actualy help a liver to survive and function when put under massive stress), and Vitamin B6. The blood pressure raise would not be mild either. So something to lower blood pressure is advised as well, Used in western countries is hawthorn berry and celery seed extract, however the most potent readily available would be hibiscus tea, one cup has been shown to lower blood pressure dramaticaly,

One user used mt for 8 weeks with other compounds and his results were as follows

Hepatic Function Panel

Protein, Total, Serum......7.4 g/dL........normal.......reference: 6.0 - 8.5
Albumin, Serum..............4.5 g/dL........normal.......reference: 3.5 - 5.5
Bilirubin, Total................0.7 mg/dL......normal.......reference: 0.1 - 1.2
Bilirubin, Direct.............0.10 mg/dL......normal.......reference: 0.00 - 0.40
Alkaline Phosphatase, S..117 IU/L.........normal.......reference: 25 - 150
AST..............................75 IU/L.........high..........reference: 0 - 40
ALT...............................61 IU/L.........high..........reference: 0 - 55


Its easy to see there that the results were actualy quite normal So, as you can see, everything was well within normal, except the AST and ALT scores. The ALT was just slightly (6 pts) above the normal range, and the AST was 35 pts above.

So it could be possible that its heptoxicity is overated, but i personaly believe that it must be used with extreme caution.

Hope this helps you TG, all the best bro, anything i can do just ask, Russian
 
for all the interested where goes the profile, be careful big guy and good luck:thumbsup:

Metribolone

Pharmaceutical Name: Methyltrienolone
Chemical structure: 17-methylestra-4,9,11-trien-3-one,17b-ol
Molecular weight of base: 284.3974

Effective dose: 5-15 mg / day
Average Street-price: Only available for research purposes.
Available Doses: None

Brands & Products: Originally produced by Negma, but never approved for production.

Characteristics:

Methyltrienolone is structurally similar to trenbolone (Parabolan/Finaplix), a well-liked and powerful androgen that does not aromatize to estrogen. The difference is the attachment of a 17-alpha-methyl group for oral activity. So one could refer to methyltrienolone as oral trenbolone. It was first explored quite some time ago by Negma in France, the same company that marketed Parabolan (trenbolone). But the drug was never approved by the French government and was hence never produced. The reason was extreme hepatoxicity. Bill Roberts, the biochemist, once commented that taking methyltrienolone made taking insane doses of anadrol and Halotestin together look mild on the liver. While I was unable to find anything in the literature that describes the extent of the liver toxicity, it's a generally accepted fact. That's also why, to the dissapointment of many, you will never find a commercially marketed methyltrienolone product. Its only sold in bulk to labs and universities for research studies involving androgens.

Mainly because (and those who wish it was available will wish so even more now) its such a potent androgen. There is some conflicting information in that regard however. Organic chemist Patrick Arnold, head of LPJ research, once stated that methyltrienolone was the most powerful steroid ever, and that statement has been blown out of proportion and taken on a life of its own. While androgenically a very potent steroid, methyltrienolone is still basically trenbolone with a 17-alpha-methyl group. A group that has the tendency to actually reduce the androgenic potency. So it may actually be somewhat milder than trenbolone, on the contrary to what many pseudo steroid guru's are now claiming after reading Pat Arnold's statement. I can't find any other documented effects of the 17-alpha-alkylation influencing androgen binding in a positive way. It's a potent androgen, with more binding than even DHT, but the study that claims that is mild at the very best about quantifications, whereas people have used the term 1000 times more powerful than testosterone, which is surely exaggerated.

What is interesting is that it seems to show nearly no binding for sex-hormone binding proteins, which makes it a popular choice in androgen receptor studies, since it will demonstrate equal binding in all tissues regardless of the presence and amount of these proteins. No doubt this plays a role in its supposed binding capacity. In this instance the 17-alpha-alkylation may have played a key role, since it has been demonstrated a multitude of times that 17-alpha-methyl groups decrease the binding for sex-hormone binding proteins as well as most other structures, and due to its triple double bond, trenbolone really didn't bind well to these to begin with.

One of the findings made in clinical tests with methyltrienolone was the discovery of high amounts of the DHT-deactivating enzyme 3alpha-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase in muscle tissue. Once again proof that God meant to keep us humans weak. Hurray for science. Follow-up studies then went on to show that DHT nonetheless showed similar binding in the prostate, and showing little or no presence of the deactivating enzyme. So God would rather have us all die of prostate cancer than gain a few ounces of muscle. It's a comforting thought, no?

What methyltrienolone, despite its amazing capacity, still doesn't overcome are the basic problems with any 19Nor compound. First of all its effects on libido. Methyltrienolone still seems to affect our sex drive in such a potent manner that the dreaded Deca **** (temporary impotence) is a very real threat. Another is that it still binds almost equipotently to the progesterone receptor. The latter would be of little concern as long as no circulating estrogen is present since methyltrienolone does not aromatize, but could cause problems such as aggravating water retention and gyno (growth of breast tissue in men) if combined with an aromatizing androgen or an estrogen.

While many may wish that an incredibly strong androgenic, non-aromatizing compound as this was available for daily use, its not. And if the indications are true, its probably best. I've warned many people for the toxicity of fluoxymesterone, and everything points to it that methyltrienolone makes fluoxymesterone look like Tums tablets in terms of liver toxicity.

Stacking and Use:

Obviously this section is mostly useless, as any who would use, let alone stack methyltrienolone for any decent period of time, wouldn't really be around long enough to tell us how well it worked. Ideally one would use it alone, while dieting or for the purpose of gaining lean mass. The androgenic potency is slightly higher than that of trenbolone, so the risk for aggravated hair loss, acne, prostate hypertrophy and deepening of voice is not only realistic, but almost likely. If one were to use it, you would probably have to use every trick in the book to protect your liver and stay alive:
 
Question for the Peanut Gallery.

Just got some Ephedrine (Bronkaid) and 200mg Caffiene tabs... ECA stack includes Asprin - whats the purpose of Asprin in the stack, and what is the suggested dosage?
 
TimberLakers said:
Question for the Peanut Gallery.

Just got some Ephedrine (Bronkaid) and 200mg Caffiene tabs... ECA stack includes Asprin - whats the purpose of Asprin in the stack, and what is the suggested dosage?
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Aspirin is included in the ECA stack to help prolong the effects of ephedrine. Basically as a normalizing procedure the body reacts to ephedrine by producing prostaglandins and adenosine outside the cell, and phosphodiesterase inside the cell. Inside the cell, it has been found that methylxanthines, like caffeine, inhibit the activities of phosphodiesterase. Stimulation of the beta receptors by ephedrine (via noradrenaline) causes an increase of cAMP (cyclic adenosine monophosphate) within the cell. This crucial part of the process that leads to thermogenesis is vulnerable because cAMP is degraded by phosphodiesterase. Outside the cell, aspirin inhibits the peripheral synthesis of prostaglandins. Prostaglandins inhibit the release of noradrenaline in the synaptic junction (before receptor stimulation). So in other words without aspirin (and caffeine), the beta agonistic qualities of ephedrine (via noradrenaline) are practically negated by prostaglandins. Thermogenesis is prolonged because aspirin interferes with this negative feedback mechanism!
 
nunes said:
Aspirin is included in the ECA stack to help prolong the effects of ephedrine. Basically as a normalizing procedure the body reacts to ephedrine by producing prostaglandins and adenosine outside the cell, and phosphodiesterase inside the cell. Inside the cell, it has been found that methylxanthines, like caffeine, inhibit the activities of phosphodiesterase. Stimulation of the beta receptors by ephedrine (via noradrenaline) causes an increase of cAMP (cyclic adenosine monophosphate) within the cell. This crucial part of the process that leads to thermogenesis is vulnerable because cAMP is degraded by phosphodiesterase. Outside the cell, aspirin inhibits the peripheral synthesis of prostaglandins. Prostaglandins inhibit the release of noradrenaline in the synaptic junction (before receptor stimulation). So in other words without aspirin (and caffeine), the beta agonistic qualities of ephedrine (via noradrenaline) are practically negated by prostaglandins. Thermogenesis is prolonged because aspirin interferes with this negative feedback mechanism!
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Wow... That was concise.

1 standard asprin tablet should suffice?

Would you recommend just one ECA dose daily immediately before the workout? Or upon waking / with lunch dosage scheme?
 
TimberLakers said:
Wow... That was concise.

1 standard asprin tablet should suffice?

Would you recommend just one ECA dose daily immediately before the workout? Or upon waking / with lunch dosage scheme?
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I believe 80mg is the standard dose for the aspirin. You can buy 100 tabs for like $3.00.

ECA first thing in the morning and before 2pm for the first week. I myself, am a Stim junkie and Stim tolerant up the yang, but the first week of ECA will cause uber insomnia if you take it even within 10 hours to bed time.

An empty stomach isn't necessary, but I'd wait at least 40 min to an hour post food. You're not likely to eat much while on ECA.

25mg Ephedrine
200mg Caffeine
80mg Aspirine

up to 3 times a day, eventually. Maybe week 2, seriously. Or at least day 3.
 
TimberLakers said:
Wow... That was concise.

1 standard asprin tablet should suffice?

Would you recommend just one ECA dose daily immediately before the workout? Or upon waking / with lunch dosage scheme?
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Baby aspirin.

Spread the dose of the ECA out evenly throughout the day (I dont go after 5pm for sleep reasons, some cant even handle that). You can dose pre w/o for a bit of an energy kick, but its more important to spread the doses for fatloss IMO (for energy dose pre w/o)

Also Bronkaid is Ephedrine Sulfate as oppose to Ephedrine HCL so a higher dose is required (2 caps is probably similar to 25mg Ephedrine HCL IIRC, but you might wanna double check that)
 
TimberLakers said:
Wow... That was concise.

1 standard asprin tablet should suffice?

Would you recommend just one ECA dose daily immediately before the workout? Or upon waking / with lunch dosage scheme?
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I only made an eca cycle once and I only took it pre wo with good results
 
tnick7 said:
Baby aspirin.

Spread the dose of the ECA out evenly throughout the day (I dont go after 5pm for sleep reasons, some cant even handle that). You can dose pre w/o for a bit of an energy kick, but its more important to spread the doses for fatloss IMO (for energy dose pre w/o)

Also Bronkaid is Ephedrine Sulfate as oppose to Ephedrine HCL so a higher dose is required (2 caps is probably similar to 25mg Ephedrine HCL IIRC, but you might wanna double check that)
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Good call on the Sulfate.

I'll cancel this order and just walk to the drugstore this afternoon for Vasopro.
 
TimberLakers said:
Wow... That was concise.

1 standard asprin tablet should suffice?

Would you recommend just one ECA dose daily immediately before the workout? Or upon waking / with lunch dosage scheme?
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i don't really think you're looking for it to cut so you should be fine just for pre workout. your call though..........good stuff
 
austink3417 said:
i don't really think you're looking for it to cut so you should be fine just for pre workout. your call though..........good stuff
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I tend to agree with austink on this one. Since you're already pretty lean, maybe twice a day at best for now. First thing in the morning and pre-workout. You'll already be burning excess kcals from the super enhanced intensity and stamina you'll be experiencing, on top of an unparalleled thermo effect and unparalleled appetite suppressant effect. I would go two doses for a week or two and see where you stand bf%, weight, musculature wise.

It's your call, I tend to go balls to the wall, even when I shouldn't, but you're much, MUCH leaner then I am, so I have more give when taking an ECA stack.

Edit: Maybe we should move this convo to Timber's log, hehe, sorry Thunder.
 
Total threadjack lol. Anyway, I wouldn't want to be the one to make TG angry for the next two weeks..

TG you got some serious cahones. Epic log brutha.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I tend to agree with austink on this one. Since you're already pretty lean, maybe twice a day at best for now. First thing in the morning and pre-workout. You'll already be burning excess kcals from the super enhanced intensity and stamina you'll be experiencing, on top of an unparalleled thermo effect and unparalleled appetite suppressant effect. I would go two doses for a week or two and see where you stand bf%, weight, musculature wise.

It's your call, I tend to go balls to the wall, even when I shouldn't, but you're much, MUCH leaner then I am, so I have more give when taking an ECA stack.

Edit: Maybe we should move this convo to Timber's log, hehe, sorry Thunder.
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I actually enjoy pissing off Thunder. I think his major lifts go up 10%... I'm pretty much the reason he got so huge and lean... but yes, lets move this to the Beatdown and discuss.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Edit: Maybe we should move this convo to Timber's log, hehe, sorry Thunder.
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No problemo, mi amigo! I totally welcome the interesting conversation and verbatim. Truly stimulating and intriguing! :type::study:
 
TimberLakers said:
I actually enjoy pissing off Thunder. I think his major lifts go up 10%... I'm pretty much the reason he got so huge and lean... but yes, lets move this to the Beatdown and discuss.
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You do get credit for some of my progress T-Styles, but not from pissing me off. You are more inspiration to me than you could ever know bro. Your attitude towards training is absolutely contagious! I appreciate bleeding some of that intensity from you. :aargh: :head:
 
Thanks Guys!!

I think most of you guys know that I'm a graveyard-shift working Vampire! So while I was sleeping this afternoon, you gentlemen have infused my thread with priceless information for me. I thank you all from the bottom of my heart of hearts! Thanks to my brother Russianstar for that invaluable info on MT. I appreciate your work and effort bro. Thanks to nunes and Tnick7 for the links they provided me to study as well. I don't want to leave anyone out, so thanks to everyone for their input and support! :clap2::box:
 
tnick7 said:
Also Bronkaid is Ephedrine Sulfate as oppose to Ephedrine HCL so a higher dose is required (2 caps is probably similar to 25mg Ephedrine HCL IIRC, but you might wanna double check that)
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I wasn't aware that Sulfate was that much weaker than the HCL. Thanks for that info bro. I'm glad I got the Ephedrine HCL!! :head:
 
thundergod said:
You do get credit for some of my progress T-Styles, but not from pissing me off. You are more inspiration to me than you could ever know bro. Your attitude towards training is absolutely contagious! I appreciate bleeding some of that intensity from you. :aargh: :head:
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See, now all I have to do is get you to fight someone. :head:

Glad to hear I have some positive effects. :)
 
thundergod said:
I wasn't aware that Sulfate was that much weaker than the HCL. Thanks for that info bro. I'm glad I got the Ephedrine HCL!! :head:
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I had a nice little devil whisper to me a place to get HCL via PM. Apparently there are far more people that have read the Beatdown that have never posted there!
 
Your welcome TG, anytime just let me know, your brother Russian
 
Can some more of you look over my calculations one more time and see if they're correct, please?! I'd really appreciate it. I start tomorrow morning! Just wanting to be 110% sure on the dosing of this one!! Here's how I'm planning on taking the Oral Trenbolone: The stuff I have is 10MG per ML. And I have 10 ML of it. So that's 200 of the 500 mcg. doses that are considered generally safe. 200 doses!! Damn, will I ever use up all of this sh*t??!! I'll be dosing it with a diabetic slin-pin. 2.5 units will be 250 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. I'll probably go up to 5 units (500 mcg.) for the second week. The slin-pin is .3 of a ML or CC. There's 30 units marked on the syringe. The full syringe would be 3 mg. of Oral Trenbolone. So each of the 30 units would be 100 mcg. of Oral Trenbolone. If my math is flawed, somebody please correct me. But I think it is right.
 
10mg/mL * 10 mL = 100mg
Safe dose = 500mcg = .5mg
100mg / .5mg = 200 doses
Looks good.

2.5 units = 250mcg. 5 units = 500mcg.
Check.

Full syringe = .3mL (@10mg/mL)
Full syringe = 3mg
3mg / 30 units = .1mg = 100mcg per unit.
Check.

Looks good to me! :thumbsup:
 
Danke shaddow! I'm being a bit obsessive-compulsive disorderly on this one!! LMFAO :icon_lol: But it's easy to see why, as well. This is a very powerful compound. And it must be approached with extreme caution. It's all systems go for tomorrow morning at 8:00 A. M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time!! :head:
 
thundergod said:
Danke shaddow! I'm being a bit obsessive-compulsive disorderly on this one!! LMFAO :icon_lol: But it's easy to see why, as well. This is a very powerful compound. And it must be approached with extreme caution. It's all systems go for tomorrow morning at 8:00 A. M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time!! :head:
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Can't wait!
 
thundergod said:
Danke shaddow! I'm being a bit obsessive-compulsive disorderly on this one!! LMFAO :icon_lol: But it's easy to see why, as well. This is a very powerful compound. And it must be approached with extreme caution. It's all systems go for tomorrow morning at 8:00 A. M. Eastern Daylight Savings Time!! :head:
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You can never be too careful! Best of luck to you, brother! :head:
 
Swimming in uncharted waters needs caution...be on your game with this one big man!!
 
True that but you still want to be around to enjoy the spoils of the battle (:->
 
TG,
proceed with the bezerker's caution. you seem to have the plan laid out nicely and with the most amount of preparation and care included. We are all excited to see the results.

Take care big man. I am anxiously following along.
 
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