McCain's VP Pick - a GILF?

[Dadof2]

keep 1 thing in mind, if the dems are smart (yes a big friggin if, as we found out in 2004) there are countless experts that will tell you that all this new drilling will do nothing to the supply for at least 15 years, thus doing nothing to the price of oil. Also, a bit of focus on new energy sources would suit the dems well. However, we are working under the assumption they wont pull a 2004, when they could have run a steak against that dingbat Bush and won.

The vast majority of US citizens want drilling now, whether or not it will make a huge difference remains to be seen. The Dems have been beating the "drilling won't effect price" drum for a while now, yet polls continue to show support for drilling to be in the 60-70% range. As prices rise I think we can expect to see the demand for drilling to rise as well.

Intuitively it makes sense that drilling for oil will reduce the price short term, as speculation plays a huge role in the price of oil these days (look at how high oil prices have shot up just based on the chance that a hurricane will interrupt production/supply. This is speculation at work). Convincing the masses that this is not the case, and that we shouldn't try will be next to impossible.

If I were a Dem strategist I would make drilling a top priority before this election, even if it risk alienating a few environmentalist. The masses are stupid enough to fall for a change of heart by the Dems in this instance.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I dont think you as a die hard repub, can give an indication of how indy's will vote. Her stance on many core issues is very ultra conservative and plays well with the religious right, which indys will walk away from

I can because I've watched the last two elections and it was the independents that gave Bush/Cheney the White House and nobody pandered more to the religious right than Bush/Cheney.

McCain does well with independents because he actually goes against his party at times and Palin only emphaiszes that point as she has done the same.

I think you might want to check the numbers again. Check the Pew research polls as well as the CBS polls. Not a big discrepancy like you might imagine

You do understnad that 58% (quoted in Gallup and not the wiki Pew and CBS numbers you quoite) is considienr a solid majority?

"There has been no appreciable change over the past two years in Americans' attitudes about legal recognition for same-sex marriage. As noted, about three in five (58%) still oppose it. Just 39% believe marriages between homosexuals should be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriages."



58%-39% in politics is basically a landslide.

Even California, one of he most liberal state in the US polls against it.

I dont think that will be the one issue, however, if shown how different she is from hillary, then the appointment of her wont help as much as the repubs think

Its a non issue as I have already stated. If it becomes one, like it did in 2004 at times, the Dems will lose that one again.

There is one huge difference between 2004 and 2008, Obama is a much more likeable candidate for dems to rally around than John Kerry.

Thats a big difference? Polls don't show it.

He also has an attack dog in Biden,

Biden is an attack idiot. I can't wait for those semi intelligent rambling type attacks good ol Joe slings.

. Additionally and quite sadly, Bush was more in line with what the traditional party wanted in 2004 than McCain is in 2008

Not anymore.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

The vast majority of US citizens want drilling now, whether or not it will make a huge difference remains to be seen. The Dems have been beating the "drilling won't effect price" drum for a while now, yet polls continue to show support for drilling to be in the 60-70% range. As prices rise I think we can expect to see the demand for drilling to rise as well.

Intuitively it makes sense that drilling for oil will reduce the price short term, as speculation plays a huge role in the price of oil these days (look at how high oil prices have shot up just based on the chance that a hurricane will interrupt production/supply. This is speculation at work). Convincing the masses that this is not the case, and that we shouldn't try will be next to impossible.

If I were a Dem strategist I would make drilling a top priority before this election, even if it risk alienating a few environmentalist. The masses are stupid enough to fall for a change of heart by the Dems in this instance.

The people that say the price of oil won't be effected by drilling are idiots. As someone who has traded oil, as soon as the announcement would be made that the US has lifted the ban and will allow them to drill, everyone and their mother who has an ounce of a brain would pull their money out of the commodity and put it int refiner stocks and wildcat stocks.

The people who state otherwise are morons.

 

[Dadof2]

The people that say the price of oil won't be effected by drilling are idiots. As someone who has traded oil, as soon as the announcement would be made that the US has lifted the ban and will allow them to drill, everyone and their mother who has an ounce of a brain would pull their money out of the commodity and put it int refiner stocks and wildcat stocks.

The people who state otherwise are morons.

I agree.

 

[DBinMD]

If man is made in God's image and we experiment, don't you think he or she experimented as well. Believe what you wish but there's no denying that there is millions of years of evidence that factually supports our evolution. Barack Obama is hardly owned:duel:

I really tried hard, but I just can’t let this one by, so forgive me if this seems a little nit-picky. You made a couple erroneous assumptions.

1) Because we are made in God’s image God is therefore like us. That essentially says God is made in our image which is a real dangerous assumption.
2) Experiment means trial and error. Since God is perfect He is not capable of error. He gets it right the first time.
3) Re: factually supports our evolution. Human evolution is theory NOT fact. The last I heard the link was still missing. So Palin has a good and reasonable basis for believing “God just snapped his fingers and Adam and Eve materialized.”
4) Since we’re on this topic. It’s not “he or she” although technically gender neutral (for the most part) He always refers to Himself in the masculine.

 

[Fastone]

I really tried hard, but I just can’t let this one by, so forgive me if this seems a little nit-picky. You made a couple erroneous assumptions.

1) Because we are made in God’s image God is therefore like us. That essentially says God is made in our image which is a real dangerous assumption.
2) Experiment means trial and error. Since God is perfect He is not capable of error. He gets it right the first time.
3) Re: factually supports our evolution. Human evolution is theory NOT fact. The last I heard the link was still missing. So Palin has a good and reasonable basis for believing “God just snapped his fingers and Adam and Eve materialized.”
4) Since we’re on this topic. It’s not “he or she” although technically gender neutral (for the most part) He always refers to Himself in the masculine.

1. If you take the bible at it's word, that could go either way.


2. The assumption is that God Or what ever higher power is perfect, Define perfection as it relates to a superior being.

3. The law of gravity is a theory, jump and see what happens.

4. God is referred to as masculine because in the time the bible was written, there was no way that it would or could have been any other way. God could be anything, have you had a personal face to face discussion with "him" lately?


:bruce3:


When it comes to religion, I generally stay away form the argument because as I do believe in God, I also believe in possibility. NO 1 the possibility that the bible was altered by man to control the masses.

 

[DBinMD]

1. If you take the bible at it's word, that could go either way.

2. The assumption is that God Or what ever higher power is perfect, Define perfection as it relates to a superior being.

I'm not sure what you mean by 1 and 2.

3. The law of gravity is a theory, jump and see what happens.

Gravity is one theory that's likely correct. There's tons of odd ball theories out there, too. Like the ones about global warming. The point is the story of Adam and Eve is no less plausible than the one about creation. Since the theory of Adam and Eve came first, it's up to the evolutionists to make their case.

4. God is referred to as masculine because in the time the bible was written, there was no way that it would or could have been any other way. God could be anything, have you had a personal face to face discussion with "him" lately?

What makes you believe there was no way that it would or could have been any other way. Pagans, for instance had no problem with deities of either sex.

re:God could be anything, have you had a personal face to face discussion with "him" lately?
Not specifically, but Christ is an historical fact (verified thru pagan sources, too) . But then you have to have a belief in the New Testament, too.

When it comes to religion, I generally stay away form the argument because as I do believe in God, I also believe in possibility. NO 1 the possibility that the bible was altered by man to control the masses.

re: I also believe in possibility. The trouble is if you believe in everything, you essentially believe in nothing.

re: NO 1 the possibility that the bible was altered by man to control the masses.

If you look close enough, thru a reaonably authoritative source, you'll see that the Bible is NOT about control, but the infinite love of the Creator. IOW, perfect love is incompatible with coersion.

 

[AE14]

I can because I've watched the last two elections and it was the independents that gave Bush/Cheney the White House and nobody pandered more to the religious right than Bush/Cheney.

soyou think the indys are willing to make more errors in judgement? Most indys right now, if you look at the numbers are leaning to Obama, and Palin will not help that cause

McCain does well with independents because he actually goes against his party at times and Palin only emphaiszes that point as she has done the same.

the issue with McCain is that he is a gambler, hence the pick. However, do you want a 72 year old, with bad health at best, who is a gambler in the white house? most will say no.

You do understnad that 58% (quoted in Gallup and not the wiki Pew and CBS numbers you quoite) is considienr a solid majority?

"There has been no appreciable change over the past two years in Americans' attitudes about legal recognition for same-sex marriage. As noted, about three in five (58%) still oppose it. Just 39% believe marriages between homosexuals should be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriages."

58%-39% in politics is basically a landslide.

Even California, one of he most liberal state in the US polls against it.

we are not just talking about gay marriage, we are also talking civil unions, and hell Palin wants a constitutional ammendment. Wait, I thought the dems believed in big gov't. :think:

Its a non issue as I have already stated. If it becomes one, like it did in 2004 at times, the Dems will lose that one again.

again, the dems need to be smart, which might be difficult no doubt. They need to pander to a lot of women and show them the significant differences between Palin and Clinton.

Thats a big difference? Polls don't show it.

are you serious? I mean listen, I know you are as biased as they come around here, but come on, look at the response to Obama in comparison to Kerry, it is light years apart. The dems believe they actually have someone they can build with, even though they were not sure from the start. Lets try to leave the bias at the door if possible

Biden is an attack idiot. I can't wait for those semi intelligent rambling type attacks good ol Joe slings.

It is funny how most pundits who are not the traditional bias of fox news and msnbc consider him a huge asset to the ticket.

 

[AE14]

The vast majority of US citizens want drilling now, whether or not it will make a huge difference remains to be seen. The Dems have been beating the "drilling won't effect price" drum for a while now, yet polls continue to show support for drilling to be in the 60-70% range. As prices rise I think we can expect to see the demand for drilling to rise as well.

Intuitively it makes sense that drilling for oil will reduce the price short term, as speculation plays a huge role in the price of oil these days (look at how high oil prices have shot up just based on the chance that a hurricane will interrupt production/supply. This is speculation at work). Convincing the masses that this is not the case, and that we shouldn't try will be next to impossible.

If I were a Dem strategist I would make drilling a top priority before this election, even if it risk alienating a few environmentalist. The masses are stupid enough to fall for a change of heart by the Dems in this instance.

I agree, especially if Gustav is as dangerous as they think. However, and this is the biggest issue facing dems, they will need to start to saddress this and if they dont do it properly it wiwll hurt them,. It is amazing, the average American could give two poops about any science that they actually have on this.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember reading something based on Palin and McCain disagreeing on this issue? I could be wrong.

 

[Dadof2]

I really tried hard, but I just can’t let this one by, so forgive me if this seems a little nit-picky. You made a couple erroneous assumptions.

1) Because we are made in God’s image God is therefore like us. That essentially says God is made in our image which is a real dangerous assumption.
2) Experiment means trial and error. Since God is perfect He is not capable of error. He gets it right the first time.
3) Re: factually supports our evolution. Human evolution is theory NOT fact. The last I heard the link was still missing. So Palin has a good and reasonable basis for believing “God just snapped his fingers and Adam and Eve materialized.”
4) Since we’re on this topic. It’s not “he or she” although technically gender neutral (for the most part) He always refers to Himself in the masculine.

Um, I didn't post that. That statement was made by someone else, and was possibly quoted in one of my post, but that is not my statement. I am a Theist, a Christian to be specific.

 

[EasyEJL]

we are not just talking about gay marriage, we are also talking civil unions, and hell Palin wants a constitutional ammendment. Wait, I thought the dems believed in big gov't. :think:

Adding a couple of sentences to the constitution, which has to be ratified by congress plus a majority of the governors is big government? What do you call universal health care then? Supermegahyperenormous government?

 

[AE14]

Adding a couple of sentences to the constitution, which has to be ratified by congress plus a majority of the governors is big government? What do you call universal health care then? Supermegahyperenormous government?

Oh I agree that Universal Health care is big government ( I am not in favor of it btw, except for children). However, with the big fuss Repubs make about big government, trying to get a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage most certainly is big government.

Also, way to understate it with a few sentences. This is the most important document in this country. Man, I am starting to believe I am the only moderate around here.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

soyou think the indys are willing to make more errors in judgement? Most indys right now, if you look at the numbers are leaning to Obama, and Palin will not help that cause

Its dead even and Obama actually was losing last week at one point.

He's been dropping for the last 30 days.

Palin will only help that cause once people hear her speak.

the issue with McCain is that he is a gambler, hence the pick. However, do you want a 72 year old, with bad health at best, who is a gambler in the white house? most will say no.

Last time I checked, he is in better health than Biden. Is this the way the Dems are gong to win now? The death card? And where do you get this bad health from? He released his records and he's fine. Are you really trying to reach that far to find a negative?

Most will say no? Like they said no with Reagan? Oops....

we are not just talking about gay marriage, we are also talking civil unions, and hell Palin wants a constitutional ammendment. Wait, I thought the dems believed in big gov't. :think:

Once again, a non issue. I think you and the audience of Ellen are the only ones who care.

..and the sarcastic remark was bad. Try harder next time.

again, the dems need to be smart, which might be difficult no doubt.

YOu have Howard Dean. Its not possible.

They need to pander to a lot of women and show them the significant differences between Palin and Clinton.

Yes, a black man and a 6th term Senator will do better than a woman.

Hello? Anyone?

are you serious? I mean listen, I know you are as biased as they come around here,

Pot, kettle, REALLY black.

When its come to Obama, you have your full blinders on.

but come on, look at the response to Obama in comparison to Kerry, it is light years apart.

Its the response of Dems to a flashy Dem candidate. If he was so popular he would break the 50% mark consistently. You're letting the hype and flash get in the way of your thinking but then again, thats typical of an Obama supporter

Numbers don't lie. If he was so popular with everyone, he would be killing McCains in this environment. He's barely winning.

The dems believe they actually have someone they can build with, even though they were not sure from the start. Lets try to leave the bias at the door if possible


It is funny how most pundits who are not the traditional bias of fox news and msnbc consider him a huge asset to the ticket.

Yes, the "traditional" media doesn't favor Obama at all. You're on a roll tonight!

"Gallup Daily: No Bounce for Obama in Post-Biden Tracking
McCain creeps ahead, 46% to 44%
August 26, 2008"


Looking at the new Gallup poll video, its basically a split down the middle with Ind women actually favoring McCains 42% to 41%. That will only go up now.

His speech and the convention gave him a bump overall but the Biden pick did nothing and will continue to do so.


That's not a bias, that's numbers.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Oh I agree that Universal Health care is big government ( I am not in favor of it btw, except for children). However, with the big fuss Repubs make about big government, trying to get a constitutional ammendment to ban gay marriage most certainly is big government.

There is a difference between right wing conservative and Republicans just as there is a difference between liberals and Democrats. I guess you chose to ignore McCains opinion as well as many other Repubs.

But nice generalization you had there...it shows how "moderate" you are.

Man, I am starting to believe I am the only moderate around here.

LMAO...right....feverishly defending Obama/Biden 3 months out and you're a "moderate".

I've heard it all now.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Adding a couple of sentences to the constitution, which has to be ratified by congress plus a majority of the governors is big government?

:lol:

wow.....yeah, that's BIG government. Incredible.

 

[RobInKuwait]

we are not just talking about gay marriage, we are also talking civil unions, and hell Palin wants a constitutional ammendment. Wait, I thought the dems believed in big gov't. :think:

Why is that even an issue in anyones minds? Over 50% of congress is Dems and they need a 2/3rd majority for a constitutional amendment. Is there a chance in hell that would happen?

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Why is that even an issue in anyones minds? Over 50% of congress is Dems and they need a 2/3rd majority for a constitutional amendment. Is there a chance in hell that would happen?

No because there are a lot of Republicans, including McCain, that do not favor an amendment like that.

It will never happen and its basically a non issue.

But people (the moderates!! LMAO) need something to attack Palin on...

 

[DBinMD]

Um, I didn't post that. That statement was made by someone else, and was possibly quoted in one of my post, but that is not my statement. I am a Theist, a Christian to be specific.

Sorry, Dadof2. I made a correction to the post.

 

[AE14]

Wow JP, address the issues with sarcasm well done.

It seems you havent read my posts, I have gone against hte McCain/Palin ticket as I disagreed with his choice. I have said over and over that I am not an Obama fan, but I personbally feel that ticket is better. However, I would expect captain neo-con to turn of the Foxnews long enough to understand. Ah well, not worth it, either way inb 3 m onths we will see

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Wow JP, address the issues with sarcasm well done.

Funny you should say this since you are the one that started to state people were biased because they didn't hold the same view you did as well as being sarcastic.


I suggest you read your own posts before you click "Submit" next time.

It seems you havent read my posts, I have gone against hte McCain/Palin ticket as I disagreed with his choice. I have said over and over that I am not an Obama fan, but I personbally feel that ticket is better. However, I would expect captain neo-con to turn of the Foxnews long enough to understand. Ah well, not worth it, either way inb 3 m onths we will see

Ah..the typical reaper response.


"You didn't read posts my you (insert generalization here)." It was neo con this time which is downright hilarious. And you couldn't forget the Fox News reference as well! Well done! :lol:

Yes, the multi quote response to each point suggest I haven't read your posts. I just randomly pick sentences to multi quote :lol:

Please have another cup of coffee since it seems you are still asleep on this one.

 

[AE14]

Funny you should say this since you are the one that started to state people were biased because they didn't hold the same view you did as well as being sarcastic.


I suggest you read your own posts before you click "Submit" next time.



Ah..the typical reaper response.


"You didn't read posts my you (insert generalization here)." It was neo con this time which is downright hilarious. And you couldn't forget the Fox News reference as well! Well done! :lol:

Yes, the multi quote response to each point suggest I haven't read your posts. I just randomly pick sentences to multi quote :lol:

Please have another cup of coffee since it seems you are still asleep on this one.

I, like your responses am too tired.

So here is what I will do, I will come back again in November, and we shall see how correct you are. I wish you luck with your ticket. It is a shame however that you cannot be anything more than biased, but that is ok. See you in November

 

[Fastone]

At this point since all of the PC insults have been exhausted, we should just agree to disagree and move on to another topic. :thumbsup:

Anybody for Gustav vs the Republican convention. I say Gustav will have higher ratings, flame on. btw, J. check out the polls today especially on Fox:lol:

 

[slow-mun]

At this point since all of the PC insults have been exhausted, we should just agree to disagree and move on to another topic. :thumbsup:

Anybody for Gustav vs the Republican convention. I say Gustav will have higher ratings, flame on. btw, J. check out the polls today especially on Fox:lol:

Barack Obama and John McCain are in a tight race for the White House, but at this stage many voters are still undecided. In the latest FOX News poll, Obama has a slim three-percentage point edge over McCain (42 percent-39 percent), while nearly one of five voters is undecided.

These undecided voters will likely determine the presidential election outcome. So what do they feel in their guts about the two candidates? The FOX News poll tried to get at that question by asking: If you had to make the “toughest decision” of your life, who would you rather get advice from — Obama or McCain?Based on that question, there are signs that undecided voters may be more inclined to move to McCain than to Obama. The largest number of undecideds – 38 percent – would rather get advice from McCain – that’s nearly three times as many as the 13 percent that would go to Obama. The remaining say “neither” (27 percent) or are unsure (18 percent).

Furthermore, independent voters pick McCain by a 15-point margin (41 percent – 26 percent).

As one would expect, most Obama voters — 78 percent — say they would go to him for advice. Similarly, fully 83 percent of McCain voters would consider him their trusted guru on a tough life decision.While 68 percent of Democrats would go to Obama for advice, nearly one of five – 18 percent – would pick McCain. Most Republicans (74 percent) would go to McCain, with less than one in 10 saying they would pick Obama (7 percent).

Overall, slightly more voters say they would turn to McCain in this situation (43 percent to 37 percent Obama).

In such a tight race for the White House, where both candidates have positive favorable ratings and strong support from their party faithful, there are some troubling signs for Obama from undecided voters

Opinion Dynamics Corp. conducted the national telephone poll of 900 registered voters for FOX News from Aug. 19 to Aug. 20. The poll has a 3-point error margin.

I like those odds. Thanks for getting me to do a search on those polls.

 

[Fastone]

I like those odds. Thanks for getting me to do a search on those polls.

You're welcome, the latest Gallup daily tracking poll has it Obama 49% McCain 41%, I like those odds. The fact is Polls are mostly crap, they're more effective in fueling discussions like we have here on this site than anything else, imo. Harry Truman learned to love the polls:lol:

 

[slow-mun]

You're welcome, the latest Gallup daily tracking poll has it Obama 49% McCain 41%, I like those odds. The fact is Polls are mostly crap, they're more effective in fueling discussions like we have here on this site than anything else, imo. Harry Truman learned to love the polls:lol:

Very true.

 

[Usf97j4x4]

Very true.

I agree. Polls are essentially meaningless

 

[Irish Cannon]

At this point since all of the PC insults have been exhausted, we should just agree to disagree and move on to another topic. :thumbsup:

Anybody for Gustav vs the Republican convention. I say Gustav will have higher ratings, flame on. btw, J. check out the polls today especially on Fox:lol:

Gustav has more hype surrounding it than Prime. Category 3, decreasing in strength, and they are saying it's the worst storm this country has ever seen? Uhmm...what?

 

[Fastone]

In all seriousness, I hope Gustav turns out to be a big dud but, it doesn't look good right now.

:bruce3:

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I, like your responses am too tired.

So here is what I will do, I will come back again in November, and we shall see how correct you are. I wish you luck with your ticket. It is a shame however that you cannot be anything more than biased, but that is ok. See you in November

Nowhere did I state anywhere that McCain would win...once again you make false assumptions and show that your comprehensions skills need a tune up.

I said Palin will help with independent women and she will. If you can't see that, then your Obama blinders are on so tight its restricting oxygen to your brain.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Obama 49% McCain 41%,

Convention bump.

 

[DougMan]

Convention bump.

It could also be that Gallup polls registered voters where as other polls like Zogby go after likely voters.

According to Drudge the latest Zogby has it 47/45 for McCain.

Being a Ron Paul supporter I have a little more respect for the polls than I did before. They had him polling at 4% and I remember people saying,"polls are biased.. they don't account for cell phones... young people don't respond to polls anyway... Paul likely in double digits", and sure enough I think Ron Paul ended up with 4-5% of the vote while it was still being contested. I think once people dropped out he did much better

 

[B5150]

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[Fastone]

Convention bump.

Is that like a baby bump, if so it will take 9 months to go away:thumbsup:.


:bruce3:

 

[BodyWizard]

Really enjoyed Palin's speach.

ME too: I especially enjoyed watching McCain stare at her tits while tugging at his wedding ring (and Cindi standing behind them, oblivious.

Man, would I love to get that guy in a poker game....

 

[BodyWizard]

Nice out of context Avy.... very Michael Moorish I must say.

Almost worthy of Lee Atwater, I guess - but certainly not at the level of a master like Rove, it's true.

 

[poacher]

Why Johny just WHY = could of had Condi Rice-supposed to be a beast in the gym

 

[aristo3369]

Its funny listening to Dems on TV scrambling trying to come up with some sort of criticism. Oh, she's not experience in foreign policy.

Why don't you highlight even more what your Presidential candidate lacks? :lol:

The best has yet to come, just keep watching the news. Ms Palin has a lot of skeletons in her closet and the best has yet to come. The presidental race is about to take a 180 degree turn. You will see Barack Obama was 100% right when he said John Mccain has very poor judgement. John Mccain will get Barack Obama elected, good luck republicans. I have the inside scoop. As Mccain said, I want to keep it a secret until the last moment. And you might ask how I know so much..... well because I lived in Alaska for 5 years. Get ready. I think the dems should hold onto this little secret until the end on October. I think they will.

 

[Delta Force]

The best has yet to come, just keep watching the news. Ms Palin has a lot of skeletons in her closet and the best has yet to come. The presidental race is about to take a 180 degree turn. You will see Barack Obama was 100% right when he said John Mccain has very poor judgement. John Mccain will get Barack Obama elected, good luck republicans. I have the inside scoop. As Mccain said, I want to keep it a secret until the last moment. And you might ask how I know so much..... well because I lived in Alaska for 5 years. Get ready. I think the dems should hold onto this little secret until the end on October. I think they will.

I dont have any inside scoop on Ms Palin but I agree i think the best is yet to come...

this weekend we just found out the her teenager daughter of 17 years old is 5 months pregnant....

I cant wait to see what skeletons she has hiding in her closet.

I wounder how many supporters here still think that she was a good choice for VP and she will help McCain win this race????

 

[BodyWizard]

No kidding. So pathetic. It cuts off right when she is ABOUT TO FINISH HER SENTENCE.

Well, help me out w/ this, 'k?

I found the fuller text (no video, sorry):

Larry Kudlow of CNBC’s “Kudlow & Co.” asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain ticket mate.

Palin replied: “[A]s for that V.P. talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the V.P. does every day? I’m used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that V.P .slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we’re trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question.”

SO here's what I'd like your help with: How does removing everything *not* in the vidclip distort her meaning? What is there in the cut text that contracticts the idea that she doesn't know much about the Vice-Presidency? It's a serious question:

- she betrays no knowledge that the VP is the President of the Senate & casts tie-breaking votes, the senior chamber's equivalent of the House Speaker - important in a split Senate like we've been having, and arguably the most important aspect of the veep's workday;

- she seems to think that she will be able to function as an Alaska partisan *AS VP*, even though as a member of the executive branch she represents the administration, the nation, and the people as a whole - not her state;

- she seems to think that she can have the office tailored to fit her expectations & purposes (and maybe, after Cheney's tenure, she has some grounds for thinking that).

 

[Dwight Schrute]

The best has yet to come, just keep watching the news. Ms Palin has a lot of skeletons in her closet and the best has yet to come. The presidental race is about to take a 180 degree turn. You will see Barack Obama was 100% right when he said John Mccain has very poor judgement. John Mccain will get Barack Obama elected, good luck republicans. I have the inside scoop. As Mccain said, I want to keep it a secret until the last moment. And you might ask how I know so much..... well because I lived in Alaska for 5 years. Get ready. I think the dems should hold onto this little secret until the end on October. I think they will.

Keep it coming. I hope they pile on her day after day after day because it will backfire.

When Obama is holding press conferences telling the media to stop, its a positive for the Republicans, not the Democrats. Keep piling it on!

 

[BodyWizard]

She's just straight up attractive. Very classy looking. Gorgeous smile. Cute and Hot at the same time; that's not easy to pull off. She hunts. She's conservative. She respects blue-collar people. She pops out kids and holds her beauty. She pulls off the glasses-wearing hot-librarian look.

She's basically my ideal woman. Too bad she's 44, happily married, and with five kids.

Here ya go, bro - just for you (in case you haven't seen these yet (that last may be photoshopped - I dunno)):

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I dont have any inside scoop on Ms Palin but I agree i think the best is yet to come...

this weekend we just found out the her teenager daughter of 17 years old is 5 months pregnant....

I cant wait to see what skeletons she has hiding in her closet.

I wounder how many supporters here still think that she was a good choice for VP and she will help McCain win this race????

I think its a gold mine. The sure way to piss off women is to attack Palin for her daughter's pregnancy or anything else related to her family. I hope it continues.

Its already completely energized the base that wasn't very supportive of McCain and this just fuels it even more.


Gold Jerry, Gold!

 

[EasyEJL]

the whole alaskan independence party stuff is ridiculous too. comical mostly.

 

[Dadof2]

The dems look pretty foolish attacking a woman over her daughters pregnancy. I thought the democrats was the party of open minds and choice? Right now they seem like the Puritans of old. Keep attacking this woman and her daughter and further alienate the women voters in this country, surely that will win Obama the election!

It is quite funny watching the genius of McCain's choosing Palin play out. The funniest part of it is watching the strategy get completely lost on the vast majority of people.

 

[Irish Cannon]

Those all look photoshopped.

But I like the first one. What's wrong with a woman that likes to have fun?

 

[Zero V]

her one daughter is pretty cute..

 

[Mo250]

Odd bedfellows in team Palin-McCainBy Dennis Atkins
September 03, 2008 12:01am

IF ANYONE doubts that the presidential election in the US is a close contest, just take a look at the candidate Republican John McCain picked as his running mate.

Sarah Palin, Governor of Alaska and national political unknown, is not the person you pick when you're in front. If a candidate is winning, there's no need to take a risk.

The thing about someone no one knows is that they are full of surprises. The Republicans say they checked Palin out but the fact that McCain had met the Alaskan maverick just twice before he introduced her to the American people casts some doubt on that.

Also, Republicans have sent a team of researchers to join journalists and Democrat operatives in Alaska digging into her background. That's hardly what they would do if they had already vetted the vice-presidential nominee.

The first shock revelation is that her unmarried, 17-year-old daughter Bristol is pregnant, something that has offended some "family values" Republicans, although the official line from Camp McCain is that at least she's keeping the baby.

Other stories are certain to emerge from Palin's Alaskan home town of Wasilla, including the one about how the Governor is alleged to have used her office to have her former brother-in-law sacked from his job as a state trooper after he walked out on his wife - her sister.

The political problem for McCain is that stories about Palin that do emerge in the next 10 weeks will take oxygen away from the Republican campaign to head off the insurgent Barack Obama.

But the biggest gamble the Republicans are taking is that Palin has no experience at national office. Given that McCain turned 72 last week and is the oldest first-time candidate for the presidency, the fitness for office of the vice-president now assumes far greater importance.

Given the parochial nature of a remote state like Alaska, it would be expected that Palin would be endorsed by her home state newspapers, but they have led the charge raising doubts.

"Republicans rightfully have criticised the Democratic nominee, Senator Barack Obama, for his lack of experience, but Palin is a neophyte in comparison," said the Daily News-Miner.

"Palin is not ready for the top job. It's clear that McCain picked Palin for reasons of image, not substance."

The Anchorage Daily News outlined the positives of having Palin on the Republican ticket but concluded with these words: "Palin joins the ticket with one huge weakness: She's a total beginner on national and international issues."

The immediate benefit from the Palin announcement was that it drew attention away from Obama's stunning acceptance speech. The immediate poll bounce seen in the Gallup daily track, which put the Democrat 8 per cent ahead of McCain, appeared to stall a little over the weekend, although the latest CBS News poll has the gap widening again.

Outside of surviving the intense scrutiny of the next two months, the big test for Palin will be the October 2 vice-presidential debate between the Alaskan Governor and Democrat Joe Biden. She will have to be at her very best to withstand a head-to-head clash with the Senate veteran.

Biden is a foreign policy specialist on first-name terms with most of the world's leaders. Palin has had a passport for just four years. But Biden is also renowned for his ill-disciplined mouth and could easily wipe out any intellectual superiority with a moment of condescension.

The other side of the gamble is that it might come off, something suggested in a New York Times column this week by Weekly Standard editor and leading conservative William Kristol. He quoted leading Alaskan political scientist James Muller as saying Palin "has been underestimated over and over again".

Muller said: "She took on the party and state establishments here in Alaska, and left them reeling. She's a very good campaigner, a quick study and a fighter."

As Obama's pick of Biden highlights his lack of foreign policy experience, Palin underscores McCain's weaknesses - his age, his distance from the conservative base and his move to the orthodox centre.

However, that she is a complete unknown who has no national leadership experience is McCain's biggest gamble. And the closeness of the race means he has to take it.

 

[aristo3369]

The dems look pretty foolish attacking a woman over her daughters pregnancy. I thought the democrats was the party of open minds and choice? Right now they seem like the Puritans of old. Keep attacking this woman and her daughter and further alienate the women voters in this country, surely that will win Obama the election!

It is quite funny watching the genius of McCain's choosing Palin play out. The funniest part of it is watching the strategy get completely lost on the vast majority of people.

Remember, it's not the dems doing the attacking, it's the media. The dems are not that crazy to attack this sweetheart with five beautiful kids and a faithful husband.

 

[RobInKuwait]

Remember, it's not the dems doing the attacking, it's the media. The dems are not that crazy to attack this sweetheart with five beautiful kids and a faithful husband.

Please....explain the difference. The media is in the Dems back pocket.

 

[aristo3369]

Keep it coming. I hope they pile on her day after day after day because it will backfire.

When Obama is holding press conferences telling the media to stop, its a positive for the Republicans, not the Democrats. Keep piling it on!

It's all part of the vetting process that John Mccain forgot about. I am totally against going after the candidates family and that includes wives. But I remember how the Rebulicans had a field day on Michelle Obama's mis-quoted statements and tried to say she doesn't love her country.

Here is my prediction, a new bombshell will hit the Mccain campaign and he is going to drop Sarah Palin from the ticket and select Mitt Romney, his origianl choice, not Joe Libberman, because that would upset the conservative base.