Trauma1 Dives Into DCP/Heat Stack/Napalm/Thermo-Glide For A Quick Month Cut!

Ziquor your avi seriously freaked me out for a second!
 
I'm going to do up a final review tomorrow night everyone. I've just been too swamped the last 3-4 days with everything that is going on.

Get ready, the bulker is about to begin! :D :burg:
 
good stuff on the vit D posted here!
i thought it was only necessary to supplement D in the winter when sunlight wasn't plentiful?
 
Hank Vangut said:
good stuff on the vit D posted here!
i thought it was only necessary to supplement D in the winter when sunlight wasn't plentiful?
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With all the recent studies and findings on Vitamin D, the actual suggested serum level needs to be much higher than previously thought. I have more to add, in fact, i may just start a vitamin D thread. :D

The bulker will be chicken and brown rice, but i plan to have have some occassional pizza in there. ;)
 
Trauma1 said:
With all the recent studies and findings on Vitamin D, the actual suggested serum level needs to be much higher than previously thought. I have more to add, in fact, i may just start a vitamin D thread. :D

The bulker will be chicken and brown rice, but i plan to have have some occassional pizza in there. ;)
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Indeed. There is a lot more to vitamin D that meets the eye. However, I am curious to see your thoughts bud. PM me the link if you setup a thread.

Cheers Brutha Man!:cheers:
 
I may look into some Vit D supplementation because in Edinboro, PA we get about 15 sunny days a year. The rest of the time we are covered in 3ft of snow or 6in of rain or both...


Keep up the awesome work T1... you da man!
 
Trauma1 said:
The bulker will be chicken and brown rice, but i plan to have have some occassional pizza in there. ;)
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Hmmm, pizza. I had mine last night :p (I know; SPANK! All good, though)...Looking forward to seeing your bulk, T1.
 
borobulker said:
I may look into some Vit D supplementation because in Edinboro, PA we get about 15 sunny days a year. The rest of the time we are covered in 3ft of snow or 6in of rain or both...
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It might be a challenge to be cheerful in that environment. Sounds harsher than in Scandinavia. Vitamin D(3) should be a must! ....
 
strategicmove said:
It might be a challenge to be cheerful in that environment. Sounds harsher than in Scandinavia. Vitamin D(3) should be a must! ....
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I massivelt agree and think that vitamin D deficency contributesnot only to the depression epidemic but metabolic syndromes in modern cultures.
 
True. There have been quite a few studies alone on Vitamin D deficiency and seasonal depression.

I've officially become a Vitamin D fanatic! :D

Vitamin D is so much more than just a vitamin, it's actually a prohormone. :D

This stuff is truly amazing with its broad spectrum of benefits. I'm increasing my daily dose to 4000 IU/day starting today. I shall keep you all updated.

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wonder what the absorption rate of D3 is, and if it would make sense to play with alternate forms like ethers.
 
Have you guys ever seen Dr. John Berardi's pizza recipe???

I am trying to find it for ya...
 
Trauma1 said:
True. There have been quite a few studies alone on Vitamin D deficiency and seasonal depression.

I've officially become a Vitamin D fanatic! :D

Vitamin D is so much more than just a vitamin, it's a hormone.

This stuff is truly amazing with its broad spectrum of benefits. I'm increasing my daily dose to 4000 IU/day starting today. I shall keep you all updated.

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Interesting clip T1...
 
Being lipophilic bile salts have a lot to do with increasing it's absorbtion from the small intestines.

Here's a good read though:

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Intestinal absorption of 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 in unanesthetized rat
D Hollander, E Rim, and D Morgan


We investigated the mechanism and characteristics of 25-hydroxyvitamin D3 (25-OH-D3) absorption in the unanesthetized rat by using a single-pass intestinal perfusion technique. The rate of 25-OH-D3 absorption remained linear for a wide range of concentrations (2-900 nM). Absorption rate of 25-OH-D3 increased as the pH, the bile acid concentration, and thickness of the unstirred water layer were decreased. Absorption did not change after the additions of fatty acids of varied chain lengths and degrees of saturation. In rats with lymph and bile fistulas, 18.5% and 16.3% of the infused radio-activity appeared in the lymph and bile drainage, respectively. These experiments indicate that 25-OH-D3 is absorbed by a passive diffusion mechanism that is influenced by the intestinal pH, bile acid concentration, and thickness of the unstirred water layer, but not by the presence of fatty acids. Approximately equal fractions of the infused hydroxylated vitamin are recovered from the lymphatic and biliary fluids.
 
Urban Monk said:
So what is the takeaway here? How much vitamin D? What form? What time? With meals?
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Vitamin D3(Cholecalciferol) is the better of the two forms. The other being D2(Ergocalciferol).

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As far as the amount, it depends on who you talk to. IMO, i would be taking in at least 2000 IU day minimum. This is even if you do receive a good amount of sunlight(a solid 15 mins/day). Maintaining your serum Vitamin D level in the upper end of normal is Paramount for maximal benefits.

It's lipophilic(fat soluable). It would be best to take with meals.
 
Here is the Gourmet Nutrition sample PDF...

The Pizza recipe is in there...

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borobulker said:
I may look into some Vit D supplementation because in Edinboro, PA we get about 15 sunny days a year. The rest of the time we are covered in 3ft of snow or 6in of rain or both...


Keep up the awesome work T1... you da man!
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Haha, 15 days may be a bit of an exaggeration, but we could use a few more sunny days here. Unless the weather's completely different an hour & a half North of where I'm at!
 
borobulker said:
Here is the Gourmet Nutrition sample PDF...

The Pizza recipe is in there...

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Nice link, there a few good looking meals in there. I've heard the pizzafree pizza's were actually pretty good but I've yet to try them. They have 0 grams of fat, 43 grams of carbs, & 19 grams of protein per mini pie.
 
Ziquor said:
Nice link, there a few good looking meals in there. I've heard the pizzafree pizza's were actually pretty good but I've yet to try them. They have 0 grams of fat, 43 grams of carbs, & 19 grams of protein per mini pie.
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haha i was exaggerating but, you know what i mean... you from buffalo area?

i actually took the plunge and purchased Dr. Berardi's entire system the other day. i cannot wait to get that book!
 
Trauma; why the all-out cut followed immidiately by a rather wet bulk ? (referring to the Phera/SD) What is the ideal goal for you in terms of body composition ? What's the goal of the bulk ?
 
Norwegian said:
Trauma; why the all-out cut followed immidiately by a rather wet bulk ? (referring to the Phera/SD) What is the ideal goal for you in terms of body composition ? What's the goal of the bulk ?
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I had a small amount of fat to lose before i wanted to start this bulker. I'm very pleased with the results i received from this short cut. The superdrol should dry up the end of the bulk cycle nicely.

The goal of my bulk is to gain a solid 10-15lbs over the 6 weeks that it will be. Outside the 3-AD i ran a few months back, i haven't really run anything hormonal in quite some time.

My body is SO ready to grow at this point. I've pushed back my start date to somewhere around the 14th of this month. I just have too much going on right now with the closing on my house, and subsequent move to maintain serious dedication.
 
Trauma1 said:
Vitamin D3(Cholecalciferol) is the better of the two forms. The other being D2(Ergocalciferol).

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As far as the amount, it depends on who you talk to. IMO, i would be taking in at least 2000 IU day minimum. This is even if you do receive a good amount of sunlight(a solid 15 mins/day). Maintaining your serum Vitamin D level in the upper end of normal is Paramount for maximal benefits.

It's lipophilic(fat soluable). It would be best to take with meals.
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Awesome info. So you take this in the morning time? Is there not a reason to take w/ first meal or breakfast?

Also, do you recommend taking anything lipophilic with a fat source at the same time? (Such as Vit. E) Doesn't lipophilic just mean that it gets stored/utilized in the fatty tissue of the body?
 
Urban Monk said:
Awesome info. So you take this in the morning time? Is there not a reason to take w/ first meal or breakfast?

Also, do you recommend taking anything lipophilic with a fat source at the same time? (Such as Vit. E) Doesn't lipophilic just mean that it gets stored/utilized in the fatty tissue of the body?
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I take a dose of Vitamin D in the morning with breakfast(2000 IU), and another dose with dinner(2000 IU.)

If a substance is lipophilic (fat like) enough it will be absorbed in the same manner that dietary fat is from the small intestine into the lymphatic system. Fat soluble vitamins are generally stored in the liver as well for later use.

I've actually been reading that bile salts influence the absorption of Vitamin D even more so.

As a result, I would recommend that you take your Vitamin D with a meal(that contains fats) to enhance absorption effects. Remember also that taking anything that may inhibit/effect fat absorption will effect the absorption of a fat soluble vitamins. This is probably why my vitamin D level was unchanged while i was taking the DCP.
 
Trauma1 said:
Remember also that taking anything that may inhibit/effect fat absorption will effect the absorption of a fat soluble vitamins.
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So does this mean to not take Vitamin D or anything else lipophilic with a meal that contains fiber? (Say psyillium husk, or benefiber, or large amounts of fibrous veggies)
 
Urban Monk said:
So does this mean to not take Vitamin D or anything else lipophilic with a meal that contains fiber? (Say psyillium husk, or benefiber, or large amounts of fibrous veggies)
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I would try to take it with some fish oils myself. That's what i do. :D

I would definitley try to avoid taking in high amounts of fiber when dosing the Vitamin D.
 
Cool, will start with the Vitamin D soon and let you know how it goes.

I had sent you a PM recently, but maybe I'll voice the question here.

Is there any reason you take 1 cap of DCP right before bed? Is this on an empty stomach? Could you explain the reasoning behind it?

Thank you for all this valuable info.
 
Urban Monk said:
Cool, will start with the Vitamin D soon and let you know how it goes.

I had sent you a PM recently, but maybe I'll voice the question here.

Is there any reason you take 1 cap of DCP right before bed? Is this on an empty stomach? Could you explain the reasoning behind it?

Thank you for all this valuable info.
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Yeah, sorry about that bud. I've been meaning to address that PM. Sometimes i'll click on one to read it and then forget to go back and answer it. I think my alzheimers is setting in. :(

It was basically an experiment that dsade had been trying out and getting really good results with. I utilized it myself during my cut, and i definitely noticed a big difference when taking that one DCP pill before bed.

Yes - You should take this on an empty stomach also for best effects. My own reasoning behind this bedtime dose is it should help reduce the incidence of any remaining circulating fatty acids being deposited into fat stores.
 
Ok awesome. Last question of the night before I pop a DCP and go to bed. :yawn:

Can you take DCP at the same time as a nighttime sleeping aid? Like right now, I am planning to basically have my last meal, and then 90 min later, take some ZMK/Somnidren-GH.

Can I take my DCP w/ these, or should I wait a bit?

Also can I pop a Gut health here also, or will there be any interactions you can see from above?
 
Urban Monk said:
Ok awesome. Last question of the night before I pop a DCP and go to bed. :yawn:

Can you take DCP at the same time as a nighttime sleeping aid? Like right now, I am planning to basically have my last meal, and then 90 min later, take some ZMK/Somnidren-GH.

Can I take my DCP w/ these, or should I wait a bit?

Also can I pop a Gut health here also, or will there be any interactions you can see from above?
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I've always taken my nightime DCP dose with my sleep aid of choice with no issues what-so-ever. Dosing the Gut Health along with it should not be an issue either.

I wish you success in your supplementation here. Please keep me updated on how it works out for you. BTW - Somnidren-GH is freakin' amazing stuff. :D

I need to try it with the ZMK!
 
Yup, I will pm you a link to my Somnidren-GH/ZMK log after I start it tomorrow. :-)

Btw, what is your opinion on gut health? Can you basically take it anytime during the day? Is there something optimal? Dsade had told me a few months ago he just takes it at night before bed, so that's what I have been doing.
 
Urban Monk said:
Yup, I will pm you a link to my Somnidren-GH/ZMK log after I start it tomorrow. :-)

Btw, what is your opinion on gut health? Can you basically take it anytime during the day? Is there something optimal? Dsade had told me a few months ago he just takes it at night before bed, so that's what I have been doing.
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Awesome! Can't wait to follow along.

We recommend taking it at bedtime during the loading phase due to the possibility of increased flatulence during the first week as your bacterial flora balances itself out. :gas:

After those first five days, i then take mine in the morning with my meal. No issues to report. :)
 
I guess i've hijacked my own thread pretty well huh, lol! :)
 
I promise to get my final review up by early next week at the latest everyone. I'll be gone over the next few days closing on my house. As soon as i get back, i'll post it up. I'll break it down giving my honest feedback in the variations i used for this cut. (I.E. Heat stack/DCP, ReCreate/DCP.)


I just want to thank you all for following along, and the great support that you have given. I really appreciate it. :)

Look for my bulker log to start somewhere around the 14th of this month. I'll post the link to it in here once it gets underway.
 
Trauma1; said:
I guess i've hijacked my own thread pretty well huh, lol! :)
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Very well said, T1! :D
 
Kernkraft said:
lol you were talking to yourself for a bit there too eh bud?:toofunny:

Anyways good job with the mini cut, looking forward to the review and good look with the closing and move! :afro:
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Maybe J's stressed. They say conversating with ones self is good therapy. :D
 
Ziquor; said:
...They say conversating with ones self is good therapy. :D
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For ones' relatives and friends? :)
 
Trauma1 said:
I had a small amount of fat to lose before i wanted to start this bulker. I'm very pleased with the results i received from this short cut. The superdrol should dry up the end of the bulk cycle nicely.

The goal of my bulk is to gain a solid 10-15lbs over the 6 weeks that it will be. Outside the 3-AD i ran a few months back, i haven't really run anything hormonal in quite some time.

My body is SO ready to grow at this point. I've pushed back my start date to somewhere around the 14th of this month. I just have too much going on right now with the closing on my house, and subsequent move to maintain serious dedication.
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Definitely get your priorities taken care of first bro. Hopefully everything will settle down for ya soon so you can start off your planned bulk with a big muthaf*ckin BANG...LMAO. :D

Cheers Brutha Man!:cheers:
 
Ok guys. I'm finally back from the house closing. :)

I've decided it may not be the best time for me to do something hormonal at this point. I just have too much going on right now, and i wouldn't be able to completely dedicate myself to it.

I actually plan to do something non-hormonal now up until the olympia. I'll plan a badazz hormonal stack for the novemeber time frame. And i do mean badazz if i have to wait until then. ;) I have yet to decide on what i'm going to use as a non-hormonal at this point though, but i will soon.

Feel free to put out some requests. I'll decide on something by the 14th and get it going. I'd LOVE to get my hormonal off here, but i'm being smart holding off because it's not the best time. :)
 
How about a super-health stack? Stratepedia (Strategic Move) might be able to put something together for you that would completely alter how "healthy" you feel. I see you already take some supplements in that vein, like the Gut Health, NoXidant, etc.

Maybe something geared toward athletic performance also?

Stack:

Stoked (W/ GSE and other potentiators)
Drive
RPM
MVP/ZMK
Somnidren-GH
Antioxidants and health related extras

Possibly AP or other insulin potentiating supplement?
 
Urban Monk said:
How about a super-health stack? Stratepedia (Strategic Move) might be able to put something together for you that would completely alter how "healthy" you feel. I see you already take some supplements in that vein, like the Gut Health, NoXidant, etc.

Maybe something geared toward athletic performance also?

Stack:

Stoked (W/ GSE and other potentiators)
Drive
RPM
MVP/ZMK
Somnidren-GH
Antioxidants and health related extras

Possibly AP or other insulin potentiating supplement?
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I have a good idea on what i want to do, but i wanted to see the input you all had.

I'm starting to feel inclined to try the new activate by DS.......OR.......DTH. I've never used either at this point, so it would be a good testing ground for me being off eveything for some time. I'll have to think about it. :) I've used the original Activate/rebound reloaded with great effects. I don't know which to try at this point. However, i'd be willing to log either. :)

I tell you though, i'll be using AN's Neovar Recomped though for sure in there! :)
 
Trauma1 said:
I tell you though, i'll be using AN's Neovar Recomped though for sure in there! :)
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Oops. I thought I had included that one. Good choice!

I was thinking more along the lines of if you're going to be doing an intense bulker, then you would stay away from anything remotely hormonal (DTH/Activate), just to be fresh for the real deal hormonal stack down the line.

Also with doing a bulker, I often feel weighed down, etc, so I miss those times when I feel lean and athletic, so figured you might get a chance to enjoy that a bit :-).
 
Urban Monk said:
Oops. I thought I had included that one. Good choice!

I was thinking more along the lines of if you're going to be doing an intense bulker, then you would stay away from anything remotely hormonal (DTH/Activate), just to be fresh for the real deal hormonal stack down the line.

Also with doing a bulker, I often feel weighed down, etc, so I miss those times when I feel lean and athletic, so figured you might get a chance to enjoy that a bit :-).
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Very true buddy. I've also debated doing a 4 week Havoc/X-mass or maybe Furazadrol/Orastan-e, with TST pre-workout days. Dermacrine would be in there as well. This is looking like a good possibility at this point.

I'd push back the big bulker until early next year then. :)
 
Id say try out DTH or hold out for Prime (although a new DTH is coming out soon, or rather I think its the original version being rereleased?).
 
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