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new formestane product

thebigt said:
jmh80, i can't believe you have never tried td formestane. damn, man where you been?
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I just got 5 grams on a lark. No idea why I got it.

All I thought was that it was ATD without the bad libido. Apparently I was misinformed.

I just didn't read up much on form. Honestly it's not something mentioned much (at least when I look through threads) and didn't seem like it was.
(Though I was only here every now and again last fall during football season.)


Dream - I know that. Only thing I saw was the BCS labs capped form. Comparing the price of the bulk form and that made me throw up. So I never got any capped form.
 
jmh80 said:
I just got 5 grams on a lark. No idea why I got it.

All I thought was that it was ATD without the bad libido. Apparently I was misinformed.

I just didn't read up much on form. Honestly it's not something mentioned much (at least when I look through threads) and didn't seem like it was.
(Though I was only here every now and again last fall during football season.)


Dream - I know that. Only thing I saw was the BCS labs capped form. Comparing the price of the bulk form and that made me throw up. So I never got any capped form.
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there are several places you can get a carrier from. look at neo's thread in the article section, for mixing details. if you want to spend the big bucks, primordial sells an expensive carrier that is said to put it into solution easier. it's the same bottle and carrier used for other pp products like sustain. i haven't tried it yet, but it does look interesting. td formestane is in a class of it's own, really can't compare it to atd.
 
EasyEJL said:
Probably you just need to hang around the old guy threads more JMH ;)
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Ha. I wasn't hanging around anything for a while.


Do you guys recommend this more for PCT or outside of a cycle?
I've got PCS and a bunch of OTC anti-E's for PCT and just the 5 grams of bulk form.

I started a methy-E/Halodrol then into methyl-E/3-AD two month cycle yesterday.
 
jmh80 said:
Ha. I wasn't hanging around anything for a while.


Do you guys recommend this more for PCT or outside of a cycle?
I've got PCS and a bunch of OTC anti-E's for PCT and just the 5 grams of bulk form.

I started a methy-E/Halodrol then into methyl-E/3-AD two month cycle yesterday.
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Form is more effective on all levels ON cycle and in nha stacks as opposed to pct. A few gentlemen who are much much smarter than me suggest that I feel this way because form blocks dht to a certain extent.

The transdermal mixing methods are more difficult than the consensus indicates. It falls out of solution, it's difficult to measure even/accurate application, and it's really frustrating (oh and that's when I got good at it after mixing it 3 or 4 times).

Oral has better research to back it up, but unfortunately requires really high doses (opinions vary with peak dosages in the 500mg to 1g range). That's the whole reason D-sade is trying to make oral dosages more reasonable with his new product that we're discussing in this thread.
 
You got a good way to mixing it into Penetrate, Celc?

I don't have enough to dose it orally from the sounds of that sort of dose.
 
jmh80 said:
You got a good way to mixing it into Penetrate, Celc?

I don't have enough to dose it orally from the sounds of that sort of dose.
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Honestly? ...not really. Here's the deal. You can initially get the formestane in solution. But it seems to start falling out of solution within a day or 2 and gets progressively worse day after day for me.

Sure, you can shake it like helll, but it settles VERY QUICKLY. So if you use the penetrate pump, you'll end up sucking all of the active formestane out within the first 5-7 days because it's settled to the bottom. If you use a dropper, you'll get unconcentrated carrier from the top and you'll be left with over saturated carrier about 1/3 to 1/2 way through your bottle.

JMH, I'm not trying to discourage you. I just want you to aware of common issues that will arise. Also, if you have some sort of a fancy post cycle plan that incorporates an AI ramp or a taper, you'll have no idea what dosages you're using in reality.
 
how many g of form were you mixing into penetrate? it sounds like what would happen with an oversaturated solution that only holds that much at high tem[
 
EasyEJL said:
how many g of form were you mixing into penetrate? it sounds like what would happen with an oversaturated solution that only holds that much at high tem[
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about 2.5g in 4oz solution. i'm messing with trione right now and it's staying in solution MUCH more reliably. I still dont trust the dosages though, but it's working just fine stacked with a thermo for a cut
 
interesting, because i've heard some of the guys here saying they had no problems with 10g in the 8oz penetrate. now you have me concerned :P as I was going to try and go that high
 
EasyEJL said:
interesting, because i've heard some of the guys here saying they had no problems with 10g in the 8oz penetrate. now you have me concerned :P as I was going to try and go that high
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I had no problem with that much. A quick heat puts it right back in solution quickly.

Adams
 
I'm gonna put the 5 grams of form into the Penetrate. Just not sure what else I will put in with it. I have a bunch (like 60 grams) of DHEA. I have some bulk 6-oxo.

Hmmm.
 
I put 7.5 grams into my penetrate and it wouldn't stay in solution at all. There's a pile of it sitting at the bottom. I don't know how any of you guys can get 10 grams in.

Anyways. I really hope an effective oral comes out soon. It'll be so much easier. I love form, but td is a pain in the arse.
 
MuscleBound1337 said:
I put 7.5 grams into my penetrate and it wouldn't stay in solution at all. There's a pile of it sitting at the bottom. I don't know how any of you guys can get 10 grams in.

Anyways. I really hope an effective oral comes out soon. It'll be so much easier. I love form, but td is a pain in the arse.
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I'm with ya bro. I've cooked this up like 3 or 4 times and it's never stayed in solution properly. Form just doesn't cooperate, which is why I was such a big advocate of eform. You knew it was gonna stay in solution every time.

I suspect one of 2 things: 1) I'm retarded or 2) others aren't keeping their form in solution and they simply don't realize it's not staying in solution. Probably the first though :fool2:
 
celc5 said:
I'm with ya bro. I've cooked this up like 3 or 4 times and it's never stayed in solution properly. Form just doesn't cooperate, which is why I was such a big advocate of eform. You knew it was gonna stay in solution every time.

I suspect one of 2 things: 1) I'm retarded or 2) others aren't keeping their form in solution and they simply don't realize it's not staying in solution. Probably the first though :fool2:
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this is the reason why i was considering spending the extra cash for the primordial carrier. i had a chat with pp and the molecular weight of form is good to go with the carrier. it is considerably more expensive but he convinced me the form would go into solution easier in this carrier. also something you might try is putting the form in a mortar and using a pestle to pulverize it before putting it in. this really does help a lot, i suggest you try this. other than buying the more expensive carrier, the pulverize method is the best i have come up with. but i am always trying new things.
 
I put a jar full of penetrate in a pot of boiling water to get it good and hot, and slowly mix in the formestane gram by gram while stirring. After it is all mixed in I keep it hot on the pot for a little while, and then finish it off with a good quick nuke in the microwave. It gets pretty hot, and stays that way for a while. When it finally cools down I have a saturated solution that goes on with little to no gritty form crystals in it, and no pile at the bottom. I did this with 7.5 grams form in 8 oz penetrate and it worked fine. Really though, it would be sooo nice to just wash a capsule or three down..
 
Just thought I would update you guys 40 mg ed formestane continues to be quite good. There was a short period around the second or third week where I felt like increasing the dose, but I stayed the course and it seemed to kick back in and really seems like it is a nice staple dose.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Just thought I would update you guys 40 mg ed formestane continues to be quite good. There was a short period around the second or third week where I felt like increasing the dose, but I stayed the course and it seemed to kick back in and really seems like it is a nice staple dose.
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My formestane is funked up. I have no idea what the concentration is. I mixed up some more with my last 2.5 grams this time with about 40ml of dmso in. and prob a 2 or 3 oz of penetrate and it's gritty. I apply it every other day too, but i just splash a couple ml on my chest and shoulders and rub it in. Seems to be working nice, but I have no idea what that dose is.
 
MuscleBound1337 said:
My formestane is funked up. I have no idea what the concentration is. I mixed up some more with my last 2.5 grams this time with about 40ml of dmso in. and prob a 2 or 3 oz of penetrate and it's gritty. I apply it every other day too, but i just splash a couple ml on my chest and shoulders and rub it in. Seems to be working nice, but I have no idea what that dose is.
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use a mortar and pestle next time. pulverize the hell out of it before mixing. helps a lot with getting it into solution and will eliminate grittyness.
 
thebigt said:
use a mortar and pestle next time. pulverize the hell out of it before mixing. helps a lot with getting it into solution and will eliminate grittyness.
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coffee grinder works equally as well, with a whole lot less effort.
 
Hello,

Someone could let me know what is the new Formestane product on sale? i would like to get some as bulknutrition as no more E-cort from Dermabolics

regards,
 
masterX said:
Hello,

Someone could let me know what is the new Formestane product on sale? i would like to get some as bulknutrition as no more E-cort from Dermabolics

regards,
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you like that stuff,huh...dsade is trying to make an oral formestane product that gives similar results as e-form. td will probably still be most effective, but a lot of us are excited about magnaform because of convenience.
 
I just want Formestane, I'd takei it up my nose for the effect it gives me. They could make a sapository I'd use it.
 
I did a little search for magnaform it has not yet been released. When?
Could you create a Sticky to buy it?

I saw in a post we are talkin about the new formestane since 2years. check that link (Invalid Link Removed)

Regards,
 
masterX said:
I did a little search for magnaform it has not yet been released. When?
Could you create a Sticky to buy it?

I saw in a post we are talkin about the new formestane since 2years. check that link (Invalid Link Removed)

Regards,
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yeah, and i probably started that one too,lol. shiit one guy had the balls to say that only reason formestane was popular was because it is cheap. haha, ax has the nerve to charge $50 for hdx2 and in my opinion formestane is much better. i bet ax is loving this shortage of formestane. look for big savings on hdx2 when the king 'formestane' makes it's return.
 
EasyEJL said:
i dunno, at 60mg/day thats just over 2g a month, not bad really
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i sometimes go triple that amount. even so its not that much, i just don't like people that try to take advantage. i know its the american way, but screw it im just not wired that way.
 
I like 125 post workout, and none on non workout days. i end up super euphoric post workouts between that and the normal hormone rush :)
 
EasyEJL said:
I like 125 post workout, and none on non workout days. i end up super euphoric post workouts between that and the normal hormone rush :)
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i like it pre workout. oh well, we both know what works for us.
 
could you let me know which products are similar to formestane? my eyes hurt at the moment. I can t read many pages.
 
masterX said:
could you let me know which products are similar to formestane? my eyes hurt at the moment. I can t read many pages.
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anabolic extremes hdx2 is probably the closest, but at $50 a bottle i won't recommend it. try 6oxo or novadex xt.
 
EasyEJL said:
i guess my only issue with preworkout is showering postworkout, and wasting it
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i take it maybe an hour pre workout, workout a hour and a half. i figure most of it is absorbed by then. i usually do 2 doses a day, with the last being 2 hours before bed, don't sleep well if i take it any closer than that to bedtime.
 
Cant believe i missed out on this form discussion. Its a great thing I bought 4 bottles of some eform a few months back, I ran 1 bottle 2months back for 30 days at roughly 5 squirts per day total (100mg according to eform, wonder how much of that will be absorbed though) ... But didn't get that 'On' feeling or noticable muscle hardening etc etc, libido was pretty much the same, I KNOW for a fact it works, its just a matter of playing with the dosages to get as everybodys estrogen levels and hormone profiles are different.

Got 2 bottles to play with for my next months cycle, will be stacking this with a free test/test boosting supplement to make the most of it. I dont think theres anything on the market that is as good, or effective as form.

Thanks dSade for trying to bring this out into the market, we need more education and info on how to combat estrogen properly for males, too much talk about testosterone when estrogen control in men should be something of equal concern IMHO

:)
 
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