DIESEL TEST....how you responded...

[Chuck Diesel]

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Im starting this tread for users of DTH to post how they dosed their DTH, when it kicked in and how they responded to the product.

Ive been getting alot of PM's/emails from users who are on day 8 or day 20 or day whatever asking when its going to kick in, some with lost libido, some who just do whatever dose.

Now as per the instructions you should start at 3/day for 3 days, (pref. 2am, 1 early pm). Then go to 2/2/1 or 2/2/2 then adjust dosage from their based on how you respond.

The directions also say: If you lose libido reduce dosage. I dont know why but I get a lot of PM's saying "DTH droped my libido, what should I do." Most of those people went straight to 6/day and need less pills/day. The same dose isnt the best dose for everyone. Some people who's test levels might go up really fast need less per day because more free test = faster drop in LH as a loop back. Less LH = less libido.

Now for me at 3/4 a day I get good mental focus, increase response to stims, ok libido not really sky high like on 5 day.

On 5/day 2/2/1 I get basically everything in the write up. After about 20 days on 5 day, I usually have to reduce the dosage because I get 2 aggressive.

On 6 day, only tried this about 3 days I get really aggressive, and libido goes away.

I always dose 4 at 2am, 2 mid day, about 20 min before meals.

On 3/day I dose 2am, 1 mid-day but some people might do better with 2 am and 1 early PM.

On 5 day, I run 2am, 2mid, 1 early PM (about 4pm).

If I take DTH after about 6pm I have some crazy psychodelic dreams, with people I havent seen in 20 years or about weird stuff.......and most of the time a few filles in there of course.

 

[dieselcoop]

currently using DTH
as directed i used 1/1/1 for 3days, i then jumped up to 2/1/1 for a couple days
, and currently at 2/2/1. prob going to stay at this rate
im currently on day 13 and expecting alot out of DTH this next week

intensity- increased
strength- its getting there
muscle hardness- increased
libido- im getting more random bones than usual
aggression-increased but in a good way
acne- no

dreams are getting strange
overall its good stuff, will buy more in the future
a final review will be posted after completion

coop

 

[Good Shepherd]

Im starting this tread for users of DTH to post how they dosed their DTH, when it kicked in and how they responded to the product.

Ive been getting alot of PM's/emails from users who are on day 8 or day 20 or day whatever asking when its going to kick in, some with lost libido, some who just do whatever dose.

Now as per the instructions you should start at 3/day for 3 days, (pref. 2am, 1 early pm). Then go to 2/2/1 or 2/2/2 then adjust dosage from their based on how you respond.

The directions also say: If you lose libido reduce dosage. I dont know why but I get a lot of PM's saying "DTH droped my libido, what should I do." Most of those people went straight to 6/day and need less pills/day. The same dose isnt the best dose for everyone. Some people who's test levels might go up really fast need less per day because more free test = faster drop in LH as a loop back. Less LH = less libido.

Now for me at 3/4 a day I get good mental focus, increase response to stims, ok libido not really sky high like on 5 day.

On 5/day 2/2/1 I get basically everything in the write up. After about 20 days on 5 day, I usually have to reduce the dosage because I get 2 aggressive.

On 6 day, only tried this about 3 days I get really aggressive, and libido goes away.

I always dose 4 at 2am, 2 mid day, about 20 min before meals.

On 3/day I dose 2am, 1 mid-day but some people might do better with 2 am and 1 early PM.

On 5 day, I run 2am, 2mid, 1 early PM (about 4pm).

If I take DTH after about 6pm I have some crazy psychodelic dreams, with people I havent seen in 20 years or about weird stuff.......and most of the time a few filles in there of course.

Chuck,
I love it at the 5 on 2 off sch. - I ramp up dosage at week 3 from 2/2/1 to 2/2/2 for 2 weeks and then finish at 3/2/2/ and finally 2/1/1 for an additional week. This works well if Im eating at around 500 cals above maintaince.

Cutting wise Ive had a good experience w/ 3 on 2 off schd. and going with the above dosing. I do use R4w more agressively in this phase as well at 6 caps per work out.

No libido issue.....no shut down.....I think tappering up and down saves me.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Chuck,
I love it at the 5 on 2 off sch. - I ramp up dosage at week 3 from 2/2/1 to 2/2/2 for 2 weeks and then finish at 3/2/2/ and finally 2/1/1 for an additional week. This works well if Im eating at around 500 cals above maintaince.

Cutting wise Ive had a good experience w/ 3 on 2 off schd. and going with the above dosing. I do use R4w more agressively hin this phase as well at 6 caps per work out.

Yeah you can do that when stacking DTH with R4W since R4W boost test also, well amplifies the test boosting effects of R4W.

Ive never done over 5 R4W pre-workout but have done 2 at lunch then 4 at 3pm.....nice.

thanks so far for the feedback.

 

[Good Shepherd]

Yeah you can do that when stacking DTH with R4W since R4W boost test also, well amplifies the test boosting effects of R4W.

Ive never done over 5 R4W pre-workout but have done 2 at lunch then 4 at 3pm.....nice.

thanks so far for the feedback.

To be honest Chuck, I wouldnt really recommend the 6 of r4w caps to most people, I pick my spots for this. Most of the time its at the end long school at work week when I just dont want to train.....The DTH is a great product, I dont know why most people complain about feel- those same guys are usually shooting themselves in the foot by overdosing and burning out receptors or overtraining and undereating.

 

[Xodus]

The first time I ran it was part of PCT for a PH cycle. I ran a full bottle at 6/day.

By day 4 or 5, libido was sky high. Oily skin started shortly afterwards with only a slight increase in acne.

Aggression was through the roof throughout the entire bottle.

The second time I ran it was part of PCT for a 16 week injectible cycle. 2 bottles, first at 6/day, second at 6/day but doing the 5/2 protocol. It had less of a libido impact, oily skin was there, slightly less aggression, but a better overall feeling of well being.

I think I actually preferred the 5/2 protocol this time around.

I've got another bottle coming that I will be running in the late fall solo and not part of any PCT.

I'm hooked on this stuff and want to try some of your other products.


Can't say I ever got had any 'dream issues', maybe a few sex dreams, but I don't really remember my dreams anyway.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

The first time I ran it was part of PCT for a PH cycle. I ran a full bottle at 6/day.

By day 4 or 5, libido was sky high. Oily skin started shortly afterwards with only a slight increase in acne.

Aggression was through the roof throughout the entire bottle.

The second time I ran it was part of PCT for a 16 week injectible cycle. 2 bottles, first at 6/day, second at 6/day but doing the 5/2 protocol. It had less of a libido impact, oily skin was there, slightly less aggression, but a better overall feeling of well being.

I think I actually preferred the 5/2 protocol this time around.

I've got another bottle coming that I will be running in the late fall solo and not part of any PCT.

I'm hooked on this stuff and want to try some of your other products.


Can't say I ever got had any 'dream issues', maybe a few sex dreams, but I don't really remember my dreams anyway.

For you and everyone else what time of day and around meals do you dose.

I dont get the dreams either....unless I take it after 6pm, and the later in the day the more vivid the dreams. Crazy stuff (the dreams).

Anyway Im thinking there is something wrong with the time of day or meals or something with some people's dosing. Every blue moon I will get an email from some guy saying I noticed nothing at all. I just really think they are not absorbing the tabs because just 2 of the ingredients, any 2, at the dosage(s) in DTH would give anyone some results in some department.

 

[Xodus]

For you and everyone else what time of day and around meals do you dose.

I dont get the dreams either....unless I take it after 6pm, and the later in the day the more vivid the dreams. Crazy stuff (the dreams).

Anyway Im thinking there is something wrong with the time of day or meals or something with some people's dosing. Every blue moon I will get an email from some guy saying I noticed nothing at all. I just really think they are not absorbing the tabs because just 2 of the ingredients, any 2, at the dosage(s) in DTH would give anyone some results in some department.

I did 3 in the am (6ish), 3 early pm (4ish).

am dosing was just after waking, before shower, pre meal 1.

pm dosing was between meal 4 and pre-workout supps.


What age are these 'non-responders'? A 20yo kid might not feel any different, but a 34yo guy that feels like an 18yo again certainly does!

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I did 3 in the am (6ish), 3 early pm (4ish).

am dosing was just after waking, before shower, pre meal 1.

pm dosing was between meal 4 and pre-workout supps.


What age are these 'non-responders'? A 20yo kid might not feel any different, but a 34yo guy that feels like an 18yo again certainly does!

All age range, usually its not their age thats consistant its more like they are not following the directions.


Well this is like 5 people in 3 years of selling DTH, but thats more than enough for me and cant see why someone would see absolutley nothing unless they just are not absorbing the tabs. Usually they are people who have never used test boosters either, not that that should matter.

 

[sw bill]

Hey chuck i am on my 3rd week of DTH and i love it.
Libido is back where it should be and at times way higher than ever.It even hangs a little lower:woohoo:
Aggression is low to medium
Energy is high
Focus is insane
Acne is 0

Since i started DTH Its like someone flipped a light switch.I went from, crabby,tired and not interested, to watch out baby here i come,lol.:chick:
I have had the most intense and focused workouts of my life.

I take 1 cap 8:00 am 1 hour after breakfast
2 caps 2:00 pm 2 hours after lunch
1 cap 6:00 which is post workout and 30 min before dinner.

I tried taking 2,2,2 and noticed no difference so i went back to 1,2,1

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Hey chuck i am on my 3rd week of DTH and i love it.
Libido is back where it should be and at times way higher than ever.It even hangs a little lower:woohoo:
Aggression is low to medium
Energy is high
Focus is insane
Acne is 0

Since i started DTH Its like someone flipped a light switch.I went from, crabby,tired and not interested, to watch out baby here i come,lol.:chick:
I have had the most intense and focused workouts of my life.

I take 1 cap 8:00 am 1 hour after breakfast
2 caps 2:00 pm 2 hours after lunch
1 cap 6:00 which is post workout and 30 min before dinner.

I tried taking 2,2,2 and noticed no difference so i went back to 1,2,1

yeah some people get the same results on 4/day than 6 day.

There was this 20 year old on DTH at one of the gym I train at and 4 days into it staight to 6/day he was going "I dont feel anything" then I told him to go to2/1/1 and hes loving it......stop me the other day and said "man im shooting half way across the room" right at the front counter of the gym. I was like "okaaayy thanks for the info., going to workout now."

 

[3clipseGT]

yeah some people get the same results on 4/day than 6 day.

There was this 20 year old on DTH at one of the gym I train at and 4 days into it staight to 6/day he was going "I dont feel anything" then I told him to go to2/1/1 and hes loving it......stop me the other day and said "man im shooting half way across the room" right at the front counter of the gym. I was like "okaaayy thanks for the info., going to workout now."

:lol: I hate it when people get all detailed its like uhhmmm.....awkward!

 

[Trauma1]

I'll definitley have DTH in my pct in a few months chuck.

Great product brother!

 

[Kawi636]

Funny this thread pops up because I've been taking DTH and not really noticing anything positive. At 5 a day I noticed dizziness/nausea. Orgasms are weaker. I did work my way up to 5, over the course of about 2 weeks. I have 2 friends who both use DTH and love it. Personally, I'm not feeling anything.

 

[3PeteNC]

Chuck,
I love it at the 5 on 2 off sch. - I ramp up dosage at week 3 from 2/2/1 to 2/2/2 for 2 weeks and then finish at 3/2/2/ and finally 2/1/1 for an additional week. This works well if Im eating at around 500 cals above maintaince.

Cutting wise Ive had a good experience w/ 3 on 2 off schd. and going with the above dosing. I do use R4w more agressively in this phase as well at 6 caps per work out.

No libido issue.....no shut down.....I think tappering up and down saves me.

why would you have shutdown? it's a test booster

 

[Good Shepherd]

why would you have shutdown? it's a test booster

Um right

 

[Chuck Diesel]

why would you have shutdown? it's a test booster

libido shut down not natural test shut down.

 

[3PeteNC]

libido shut down not natural test shut down.

i gotcha, im gonna pick up some DTH as soon as i get my paycheck! :woohoo: :bruce2:

 

[Steveoph]

I responded kinda odd to the DTH Twinpack that I ran through earlier this year. I picked it up after I ran Coq Diesel/DTH, because I planned to use it some time in the future and heard great things about it. I wasn't expecting to go through both bottles, but the X-Factor took longer than I though to arrive.

I started at 3cap/day for 3 days, then bumped it up to 4. I noticed some increased aggression (could have been just mental since I was expecting it) but no increase in acne, and my libido has always been good so didn't notice a boost. I dosed about 30 mins pre-meals, and spread out my dosing throughout the day. I worked my way up to 6 a day, but still only noticed the increased aggression, but not much else. Noticed a dip in libido@6 so I went down to 4 for rest of the run.

I bought another Twin Pack because I didn't log that run, and I was turned into a Get Diesel believer after doing the Coq Diesel+DTH. I'm probably going give the DTH another run in about 2 weeks, but this time I'll log everything to make sure I don't overlook anything. I'm thinking about picking up some R4W or the new JetFuel/JP8 thing to run in as well, I think they should stack well.

Edit: I think the reason I didn't respond that well my 2nd time was I switched from Creatine Gluconate --> Ethyl Ester (Inferior), and I tried dosing it before my meals, 1 at a time so it looked like 1/1/1/1/1. I'd say stick with the recommend 3 doses/day and don't split it up if you want max effects.

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[Gator Alum 03]

I've gone as high as 6 pills a day, but 4 or 5 seems to be just the same for me. I dose 2/2/1 with my first dose being in the a.m. at 8:30 or so, then 2:00 pm, then usually 6:00 or 7:00 pm. I've dosed it as late as 10:00 pm and never noticed any crazy dreams or anything. I also dose R4W a few days a week pre-workout and this combo is top notch. The focus and aggression in the gym is awesome.

I got at least 4 bottles in my stash. I swear by the stuff.

 

[T-Bone]

I have my first bottle ready to go soon. I was going to purchase another one just so it could last one month or more at 6 a day, but now I'm think of only running 4 a day. It should last a little more than a month becuase you are suppose to start off with only 2-3 a day for the first few days if I remember correctly what it says on the bottle.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I have my first bottle ready to go soon. I was going to purchase another one just so it could last one month or more at 6 a day, but now I'm think of only running 4 a day. It should last a little more than a month becuase you are suppose to start off with only 2-3 a day for the first few days if I remember correctly what it says on the bottle.

its 4 or 6, why not 5? Well let us know how you take it (time of day) and results.

 

[T-Bone]

its 4 or 6, why not 5? Well let us know how you take it (time of day) and results.

I know that 4 would last me a month, 6 only because of what I read on the label as the "Optimum dose". Just want it to last me at least a month with the one bottle that I have. After I finish my RPM bottle I am gonna start it.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I know that 4 would last me a month, 6 only because of what I read on the label as the "Optimum dose". Just want it to last me at least a month with the one bottle that I have. After I finish my RPM bottle I am gonna start it.

6 is the "Max" dose. Not optimum for everyone. Some people's optimal dose is 3, some people 4, some people 5, some people 6....but for most people 6/day will drop your libido.

Most people (like I said) who say "I havent noticed anything" are on like day 8 or jump right to 6/day.

 

[T-Bone]

6 is the "Max" dose. Not optimum for everyone. Some people's optimal dose is 3, some people 4, some people 5, some people 6....but for most people 6/day will drop your libido.

Most people (like I said) who say "I havent noticed anything" are on like day 8 or jump right to 6/day.

That is great news for me. I always like a supplement bottle to last me at least a 1 month. Looking forward to trying it out, and I will post my results when I do.

 

[Good Shepherd]

6 is the "Max" dose. Not optimum for everyone. Some people's optimal dose is 3, some people 4, some people 5, some people 6....but for most people 6/day will drop your libido.

Most people (like I said) who say "I havent noticed anything" are on like day 8 or jump right to 6/day.

Might be worthy to ramp up the dosage on training days- of course that might work better on a pulsed type cycle. I may want to try this........

 

[LatSpread]

my libido and energy were way up, but I didnt get the aggression I got from past version of Diesel Test.

 

[Terencec]

Sometimes more often than not I get an upset stomach. I have tried taking it with and without food. Is it just me and I have a sensitive stomach for it.

 

[LatSpread]

Sometimes more often than not I get an upset stomach. I have tried taking it with and without food. Is it just me and I have a sensitive stomach for it.

yea its never bothered mine, but ive heard a few ppl that get that.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Sometimes more often than not I get an upset stomach. I have tried taking it with and without food. Is it just me and I have a sensitive stomach for it.

yeah probably the PH of the enteric coating some people have a problem with. Can prob get around it by taking the tabs with milk, but I know people dont want to drink milk 3x a day.

 

[Nardo]

Just curious when should you start noticing some effects from DTH? I started out with 3/day and now have has been taking 5/day for 10 days and haven't noticed anything.

I have been taking it at least 20 minutes prior to meals and and taking them 2/2/1 throughout the day.

Any ideas?

Just some more info

Im 6'1" and weigh 260lbs.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Just curious when should you start noticing some effects from DTH? I started out with 3/day and now have has been taking 5/day for 10 days and haven't noticed anything.

I have been taking it at least 20 minutes prior to meals and and taking them 2/2/1 throughout the day.

Any ideas?

Just some more info

Im 6'1" and weigh 260lbs.

You are pretty big, have you ever used herbal test boosters or prosteroids/hormones? Your at day 13, you might need more time and a higer dose.

What I would do next time you workout is take 2 am and 3 tabs 1 hour before working out and 1 tab post workout. If you dont notice anything during your workout and for the rest of the day, then your not absorbing the tabs. Report back on how that goes. If your working out today just do 3tabs 1 hour preworkout and 1 tab post workout. You should notice something but being they are time released it slowly builds to an increase in effects/test. Most products that really increase test take a while to kick in to very from person to person, even test injections.

 

[cetd]

I am taking 2 in the am, 2 before lunch and 1 around 3 and the results are amazing, I did try 6 a day but did not feel any different so went back to 5. One thing I've noticed is that you have to stop it once you stop feeling it make a difference and it restart it 3 to 4 days later, and it starts working wonders again. I'm on my third bottle now, this thing is amazing!

 

[Chuck Diesel]

I am taking 2 in the am, 2 before lunch and 1 around 3 and the results are amazing, I did try 6 a day but did not feel any different so went back to 5. One thing I've noticed is that you have to stop it once you stop feeling it make a difference and it restart it 3 to 4 days later, and it starts working wonders again. I'm on my third bottle now, this thing is amazing!

Yeah I use to do that when I would take 5 or more a day, I would run it until I didnt realize the difference in the gym....then start again.

thanks for the feedback

 

[GotRam01]

Im doin 2 am 2 lunch and 2 ppre workout as well as 5 R4W, and i must say.... FVCKIN Wild. I love it. Im gettin ready to re-order the same thing. It is absolutely the best feeling right now. tonight i had a personal best deadlift i hit 425 x3 sumo. Thanks chuck, anything else you can think of to throw into my next month of diesel-ness

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Im doin 2 am 2 lunch and 2 ppre workout as well as 5 R4W, and i must say.... FVCKIN Wild. I love it. Im gettin ready to re-order the same thing. It is absolutely the best feeling right now. tonight i had a personal best deadlift i hit 425 x3 sumo. Thanks chuck, anything else you can think of to throw into my next month of diesel-ness

if you like to train for power.....add some NOS ETHER.

Do you take the DTH with food or right before?

 

[TripDog]

Best test booster I ever used...PERIOD! Stacked with TribTest is downright insane.

Libido and aggresion went through the roof and I loved every minute of it. I did 5 or 6 a day 2 bottles back to back (log is on here somewhere).

Awesome stuff Chuck, props.

~Trip

 

[milwood]

Best test booster I ever used...PERIOD! Stacked with TribTest is downright insane.

Libido and aggresion went through the roof and I loved every minute of it. I did 5 or 6 a day 2 bottles back to back (log is on here somewhere).

Awesome stuff Chuck, props.

~Trip

That is awesome! I'm gonna have to give it a go.

I wonder why some seem to get a libido boost and others get the opposite. Anyone know? Of course, this is the same with some PH/PS's too; some people get a boost and some do not.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

That is awesome! I'm gonna have to give it a go.

I wonder why some seem to get a libido boost and others get the opposite. Anyone know? Of course, this is the same with some PH/PS's too; some people get a boost and some do not.

if u take 3-4/day u will see more of a libido boost, if you take 6/day u will see more of the higher test levels which will drop ur libido. More free test = less libido (LH loop back).

 

[milwood]

if u take 3-4/day u will see more of a libido boost, if you take 6/day u will see more of the higher test levels which will drop ur libido. More free test = less libido (LH loop back).

Thanks, Chuck!

 

[GotRam01]

Chuck i usually take without food, i might listen to trip dog and on my second consecutive bottle try some of the tribtest along side. My libido right now isn't extermely high and it sure as hell aint down.

 

[gogo]

if u take 3-4/day u will see more of a libido boost, if you take 6/day u will see more of the higher test levels which will drop ur libido. More free test = less libido (LH loop back).

What is an LH loop back?

 

[Trauma1]

What is an LH loop back?

I believe he's talking about the negative feedback mechanism(Loop) of leutinizing hormone.

 

[Chuck Diesel]

What is an LH loop back?

free test reduces LH, LH converts DHEA to total test. LH is also responsible for libido. So a fast or large increase in free test = less LH = less libido

 

[gogo]

free test reduces LH, LH converts DHEA to total test. LH is also responsible for libido. So a fast or large increase in free test = less LH = less libido

Oh.. ok gotcha!

So a test booster than works very well would in theory reduce your libido?

 

[papapumpsd]

Mini Hi-Jack...I know!

I'm going to use DTH for PCT (Epistane cycle, running for 4 weeks. PCT: Torimefene + DTH and support supps.).

How should I dose the DTH and how should I split up the daily doseages (Am/Noon/PM ??).

Thanks all and please pardon the hi-jack. I've searched all over and cannot find a freaking post regarding DTH, dosing, and PCT (just too much $hit in the way).

-Papa!-

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Oh.. ok gotcha!

So a test booster than works very well would in theory reduce your libido?

yeah....unless its loaded with libido boosting ingredients that dont work along LH to increase Libido......like DTH.

Most people that run DTH at 6tabs/day see a drop in libido but a bigger jump in aggression, training intensity, "road rage," etc.

 

[papapumpsd]

Mini Hi-Jack...I know!

I'm going to use DTH for PCT (Epistane cycle, running for 4 weeks. PCT: Torimefene + DTH and support supps.).

How should I dose the DTH and how should I split up the daily doseages (Am/Noon/PM ??).

Thanks all and please pardon the hi-jack. I've searched all over and cannot find a freaking post regarding DTH, dosing, and PCT (just too much $hit in the way).

-Papa!-

BIIIIZZUMMMP!

 

[Chuck Diesel]

Mini Hi-Jack...I know!

I'm going to use DTH for PCT (Epistane cycle, running for 4 weeks. PCT: Torimefene + DTH and support supps.).

How should I dose the DTH and how should I split up the daily doseages (Am/Noon/PM ??).

Thanks all and please pardon the hi-jack. I've searched all over and cannot find a freaking post regarding DTH, dosing, and PCT (just too much $hit in the way).

-Papa!-

i've answered that at least 20x on here.

How to take DTH is on the bottle in reguards to am, mid/pm, just start it the last 5 days of your cycle at 3 tabs a day then go to about 5 tabs a day.

 

[Movin_weight]

been using DTH along with Nolva after a 6 week H-drol cycle... ran it 50/50/50/75/100/100

Started DTH at 1/1/1... then 2/1/1... now taking 2/2/1

I'm on day 10, and itTook about a week for everything to kick in.... I had some mild Post cycle depression for the first week, but now everything is feeling great

Strength is the same, aggression is back up, libido is on the rise, some oily skin but it's humid as hell around here

So far i'm very happy with the product