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Also, Texas is a genetic freak. 20 lbs is just him getting started. I see bigger gains coming.
What about me dammit!? What about good ole Force? I'm a beast!He reminds me of Beast.
Yes I knew Beast (Derek) when he was a fairly small 17 year old kid and he too was a freak of nature. He made some very impressive gains as well.
The one thing the two have in common is Derek like Texas listened and learned. They have both accumuated a lot of knowledge but their humility enables them to continue to get better. mbburz you should worry about your own problems Texas is your better and if not now, some day very soon you will see how wrong you were about him.
He reminds me of Beast.
Yes I knew Beast (Derek) when he was a fairly small 17 year old kid and he too was a freak of nature. He made some very impressive gains as well.
The one thing the two have in common is Derek like Texas listened and learned. They have both accumuated a lot of knowledge but their humility enables them to continue to get better. mbburz you should worry about your own problems Texas is your better and if not now, some day very soon you will see how wrong you were about him.
What about me dammit!? What about good ole Force? I'm a beast!
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ever wonder why get diesel gets a hard time on bb. but here he is gold. don't believe everything you read on other boards, the guys here at AM are straight shooters. i will put strategicmove's knowledge up against anyone on any forum. plus he doesn't have an oversized ego.You guys all buy into hype products AP/Neovar is ****! Why don't you go look up some posts by Deserusan, Layne Norton or Beast from scivation they have tried both and have numerous Journals explaining why they don't work. But I guess if your making 20 lbs gains in a month then something must be working. I mean most HARDCORE bodybuilders on roids will never ever make those gains....
But go ahead keep wasting your money on hyped products, while I'll get the same results if not better on the tried and true supplements.
Oh and about MT, all there products are amazing just overpriced. But at least they work, unlike products that are reasonably priced but don't.
Got to love products that have a high percentage chance of being a Non-Responder to superstar gains! Look at the posts and feedback of this product there is mainly those too outcomes. So ill believe the journals and the people on the bodybuilding forums with the highest rep and most bbing experience.
What about me dammit!? What about good ole Force? I'm a beast!
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ever wonder why get diesel gets a hard time on bb. but here he is gold. don't believe everything you read on other boards, the guys here at AM are straight shooters. i will put strategicmove's knowledge up against anyone on any forum. plus he doesn't have an oversized ego.
LOL thanks holmes!Yes FOG you as well, actually you guys seem like you are having similar results and you both remind me of eachother. Both genetically gifted as well.
Hahaha! Good deal Distilled! I tend to pack on muscle and fat very easily, but AP/P-Slin is working wonders NO DOUBT! I'm cutting with jelly sandwiches on AP/P-Slin. No joke! Of course it's organic jelly on Ezekiel breadFOG, your a biotch :run:
j/k man. Actually we look similar in build. You have more vascularity than I do. Even when I was sub 8% vascularity wasn't somthing I just woke up with :sad:
Lookin' good indeed....keep it up bro!
been meaning to try the 'moses' crackers.:rofl: i hear you talking about ezekiel bread a lot, what is it?Hahaha! Good deal Distilled! I tend to pack on muscle and fat very easily, but AP/P-Slin is working wonders NO DOUBT! I'm cutting with jelly sandwiches on AP/P-Slin. No joke! Of course it's organic jelly on Ezekiel bread![]()
Word up BigT! Ezekiel is a true, whole grain bread that uses wheat, rye, and spelt... few other grains I think... and they have a process called 'sprouting' that they employ to bring out and unlock the essence of the whole food goodness so they enzymes and nutrients are easily accessible to digest and assimilate! Great products! Also, sprouting destroys gluten.been meaning to try the 'moses' crackers.:rofl: i hear you talking about ezekiel bread a lot, what is it?
Word up BigT! Ezekiel is a true, whole grain bread that uses wheat, rye, and spelt... few other grains I think... and they have a process called 'sprouting' that they employ to bring out and unlock the essence of the whole food goodness so they enzymes and nutrients are easily accessible to digest and assimilate! Great products! Also, sprouting destroys gluten.
you ever try the spelt spaghetti, i tried it about a year ago and it's the only kind i eat now. i will look for the ezekiel bread, thanks.:cheers:Word up BigT! Ezekiel is a true, whole grain bread that uses wheat, rye, and spelt... few other grains I think... and they have a process called 'sprouting' that they employ to bring out and unlock the essence of the whole food goodness so they enzymes and nutrients are easily accessible to digest and assimilate! Great products! Also, sprouting destroys gluten.
The gluten content is destroyed during the process of sprouting.If it destroys gluten why are they inlcluding wheat? :think:
The gluten content is destroyed during the process of sprouting.
Because the amount of posts is the equivalant to knowledge and experience...
Didn't do anything much that your typical creatine mono did other then make my muscles a little more fuller. But for that price id rather get some more bulk BA, CM, aminos, and so on that have the science behind it.
Neovar is a much better product though when compared to AP.. People who use AP are just paying into their gimmick for ALA...
Show me a log where a person make such signifigant gains with AP that they couldn't do with ALA and the same nutritional intake and intensity and ill believe it. AP is a placebo product for the most part. I once belived the hype of these products then I realized they do pretty much nothing more if anything then creatine+ALA...
Don't believe me???
Then why don't the IFBB pros rave about these products and use them, themselves other then for sponsorships... I mean 20lbs in a month!!!! And extreme fat loss shedding!!! Why make the body take such harsh effects on so many roids and GH and just take this stuff with their superior genetics and lighten the load on the roids!
Theres a reason the pros stick to the basic supplements with additions of stuff like Citrillune malate and beta alanine, so on... its because they work.
As for the new Neovar I have yet to try so I can not knock it or give it praise until I do.. But seeing as it does use mono now im sure its much better as even studies show ethly-ester isn't absorbed into the body when ingested - maybe why I never liked the original as before I never read the science studies and believed the hype and posts of the common supplement user/bodybuilder.
I mean most the people on here are company reps, and the people that love their products... well they are the ones always doing the sponsored logs who wouldn't love free sup's and rage about em whether they believe they worked well or not. This is the truth. Look at sponsored logs on here and BB.com its always the same people. Or people who love the products.. why won't give others the chance to log the product. Also most of the logs only log their time on the product not before or after. I would like to see more logs that show their training before and after. As the placebo efffect tends to increase the intensity that is a good thing in a way though... But my philosophy is if your training then train, so I rarely lack intensity in the gym.
If these people love the product so much, im sure they wouldn't mind spending their hard earned cash on it. I rarely post, mostly read and gain knowledge. And i've always seen people talk down on products they had previously praised when it came to their own money...
My advice to you and anyone is to start off with stuff like: Protein isolate, Protein casein/a mix like Syntha-6, creatine mono, good multi vitamin, BCAA's, EAA's, Bulk Leucine, Taurine, beta alanine, citriulline malate, sesamin, fish oils, CLA. Stuff like this thats known to work. If you have money left over and want to spend then add in something like AP (Neovar in place of your creatine mono) and see how much of a vast difference you are making.
Yah I back this guy up 100% this guy knows a lot more than most twice his age and his dedication, research and results speak from themselves. He is a good example for all the young guys around here.
why is that? im pretty sure pros dont only use basic supplements. and their are plenty of unbiased logs around. People who fall for placebo effects are just new to supplements typically as well.Got to say this was a good post overall.
Cell Tech and Nitro Tech were useless. Nitro Tech also was the nastiest thing I tried to drink...And it stained my shoes when I spilt it once. Since switching up to other products that didnt have "NANO DIFFUSE TECHNOLOGY" or other puffed up articulant names, I have seen some solid gains. I mean their ads show a guy who looks like he is going to rip your guts out and use them to paint with...and it all came from using their products, I agree with lucly, they use alot more and they have to LOVE the company that rights their paychecks.
And BTW genetically, I am prone to muscle growth since I was in HS.
You really seem angry about something more than supplements, do you want to talk about something, lay down on the couch.
why is that? im pretty sure pros dont only use basic supplements. and their are plenty of unbiased logs around. People who fall for placebo effects are just new to supplements typically as well.
why is that? im pretty sure pros dont only use basic supplements. and their are plenty of unbiased logs around. People who fall for placebo effects are just new to supplements typically as well.
yeah Mt products arent HORRIBLE, they are just way over priced. honestly if they were cheaper i would consider using them. and yeah thats me in my avi and those are my real stats. thanks for the compliments manI agree with what you said above. I said overall it was a good post. He pointed out somethings I liked and somethings I don't agree with. Him loving on MT products is something I don't get. He must be rich or a sponser.
We'd just need a lot of anti-oxidants and joint protectionYea true date TX. Since when is 2gr Test, 1gr Deca, 50iu's hGH, and 100iu insulin a week basic supplementation.
Hell if 80% of the guys on AM were on that with the lifestyle those guys live...why the hell would we take almost any supp on this board :think:
i took this with anabolic pump and oh my my
Lets say I was lethargic for about a year and a half after a bad breakup. I just recently picked up doing physical activities and weightlifting again, I will put picks up soon of how fast muscle growth happend for me. :woohoo:I'm really not trying to start anything here but you said you are genetically prone to muscle growth since high school. Then I read your stats. 5'10" at 139 pounds. Something doesn't add up.
try it man neovar hit the sweet spot on me and i now have my little brother on it
i bet thats a great combo. i just down whole wheat bread after i take it haha. is kre-alkalyne that great? people come into work swearing by it when i get it for them from the case....I really want to but I have a whole bottle of kre-alkalyne I dont want to waist. Maybe I will just use it llater, and get neovar with kwick karb..
i bet thats a great combo. i just down whole wheat bread after i take it haha. is kre-alkalyne that great? people come into work swearing by it when i get it for them from the case....
whoa, tanya tell us about yourself. you are a new member with 10 posts and you are a rep? tell us your history,please.No one should knock products until you try them...Not every supplement is going to work for everyone and in the way they want it to. The new Neovar Recomped is a great product, It may not always be what everyone wants in a product or likes, but that they way things go sometimes. :thumbsup:
whoa, tanya tell us about yourself. you are a new member with 10 posts and you are a rep? tell us your history,please.
whoa, tanya tell us about yourself. you are a new member with 10 posts and you are a rep? tell us your history,please.
"Pwning AM all day every day" is what i would put
that works too. every company has to have the pretty lil lady on board who can secretly open a can of straight up whoop ass. haha. so we are partial rivals school wise. your a roadrunner who most likely supports UT and im a soon to be Aggie. btw welcome to AM:dance:LOL......I was thinking AN Girly Girl?
that works too. every company has to have the pretty lil lady on board who can secretly open a can of straight up whoop ass. haha. so we are partial rivals school wise. your a roadrunner who most likely supports UT and im a soon to be Aggie. btw welcome to AM:dance:
agreed, i love my aggies and the rivalry is fun and of coursei m gonna go for them on the UT V aggie game, but in general i could careless. love to all the texans is whats up! and thanks im happy to be out of high school not, but it feels weird knowing i will never be backPartial rivals....Love goes out to all Texans. Congrats on your graduation! Thanks for the welcome. And the guns are hanging dude!
PS. I miss my Taco Loco at 2:00am!
agreed, i love my aggies and the rivalry is fun and of coursei m gonna go for them on the UT V aggie game, but in general i could careless. love to all the texans is whats up! and thanks im happy to be out of high school not, but it feels weird knowing i will never be back
hey that's more like it. thought you could sneak in without a proper introduction huh. welcome to the am family, tanya. an is a top company with a lot of respect on this board. again,welcome.I work for the company every day....Check out our website. I just started posting here, but have been posting on another forum for a while. I said Rep under my name, but if that's not the right lingo, what should I say?
i bought one for my birthday and just got a new computer so i am set for those college days! haha. im excited but kind of scared, its me in the big world :woohoo:Just another chapter in your life.....Now you can enjoy the true party which is like no otherHave a digital camera on hand at all times!