Was Gerald Butler from the movie '300' on steroids ?
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Sir Foxx
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They don't have jobs other than acting. They can afford trainers, dietician's and work out all day getting in shape. It can be done if you don't have anything else to do but that.
Jayhawkk
Legend
I don't know if actors really have that much of a carefree lifestyle? Press, promotions, personal life, family, working on future jobs.
Now I know having on site trainers, food etc are great things and more than most of us have but I also think it's unfair to say these people can just workout and eat all day every day.
ReaperX
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Actors/Actresses are on stage and film for several hours at a time. They are also too busy promoting and doing other things. Hardly a carefree lifestyle.
If they were just sitting on their asses that would be dumb on their part instead of trying to market their image/skills for money. Hollywood is very competetive and there's a lot of hustling going on.
If they were just sitting on their asses that would be dumb on their part instead of trying to market their image/skills for money. Hollywood is very competetive and there's a lot of hustling going on.
pez6969
New member
Sir Foxx I agree but not in yhat time frame, most of them are on. Ryan Renalds in Blade trinity.(he is on the gas)
T-Bone
Banned
No, that is just sad. There are a ton of other things in life that are much much much more important than big muscles and working out.
pantera101
Banned
Well first off I used the phrase giving 100% simply because that was the phrase used in my quoted post.I would say I mean 100% of your effort,not your time.Again we all work and many have families so thats impossible to give 100% of your time to anything other than breathing.And again,bb'ing doesn't require every waking hr.It requires eating every 2-3 hrs and working out 3-6 days for 1-2 hr's including cardio.
And yes your post is true.Unfortunanetly I don't have those things though.If I ever get married and or have kids I will change I'm sure.I will still be eating every 2-3 hrs and getting up early as hell to work out and still be there for my kids when needed.It's all about priorities.I can't keep my house clean for sh!t.I'm a slob 90% of the time.Yet I can't remember the last time I missed a wo or meal.It's not that I'm so busy I can't commit 20 minutes a day to clean a little and keep it clean.It's that it's just not that important to me and it's easier to just not do it.Just like it's easier to reset your alarm at 4:30 in the morning and miss a wo.Skip meals cause you didn't feel like cooking them.But to me thats not an option.Just like others would never live in a messy house.
Thats it guys I swear.I wont clog this thread with anymore of this.I was just trying to prove that normal people can commit 100% of their efforts to bb'ing,powerlifting,or just general fitness.Just remeber,excuse are like a$$holes.Everyone has one.But you can either tuck your tail and hide or bite back.It's only as hard as you make it and someone always has it way worse than you.
pantera101
Banned
Is the machinist a good movie?I want to see it just because of how he looks and I realy like the freakiness and "atitude" of the pictures.
pantera101
Banned
Thats what it looks like and thats what I want to hear.I will definately see it when I can.
hardknock
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I think he needed some type of "assistance" just to get that skinny...
But, one has to look at things like this, whenever you hear about a movie coming out that summer, remember that you almost NEVER see the actor promoting, doing parties, or etc for about 13 months before the movie is said to debut...
Before I am legend, Will Smith disappeared for about a year. You did not see him on any shows, or doing any parties or any charity events, nor any where on any news, etc.
I do think that SOME of them go into seclusion when they are getting ready for a movie(especially if it entails getting size, or getting extra skinny) So, some of them do have that 12 month period of just eating and training for a movie. Im saying some, not all.
But, one has to look at things like this, whenever you hear about a movie coming out that summer, remember that you almost NEVER see the actor promoting, doing parties, or etc for about 13 months before the movie is said to debut...
Before I am legend, Will Smith disappeared for about a year. You did not see him on any shows, or doing any parties or any charity events, nor any where on any news, etc.
I do think that SOME of them go into seclusion when they are getting ready for a movie(especially if it entails getting size, or getting extra skinny) So, some of them do have that 12 month period of just eating and training for a movie. Im saying some, not all.
ReaperX
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yeah, not even for training but just for preparing for a role actors will go into seclusion. I think heath ledger did as well.
I was talking to my friend about this last night, coincidently the movie '300' was showing.
Its not the physique themselves. It is that they get that physique in 2 weeks.
I was talking to my friend about this last night, coincidently the movie '300' was showing.
Its not the physique themselves. It is that they get that physique in 2 weeks.
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
Rebounding from a competition diet, I've gained as much as 23lbs in just a few days (mostly water and glycogen). It's totally doable to make that rebound.
ReaperX
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ReaperX
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I dunno about getting that skinny. Girls do it all the time. Being muscular is a diff. story. Being skinny all you gotta do is eat ice chips, drink water, and chew sugarless gum.
Sir Foxx
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pantera101
Banned
In the bonus footage of branchs dvd he says how much weight he gained in a short period of time after his first diet and it was insane!I'll watch it later and let ya'll know.Or maybe someone else knows and can share.He said he ate so much the first day he wanted to puke at the end of the day but couldn't.Then he woke up at 2 in a state he had never been and was driving around trying to get a milkshake and had to make one from stuff bought at 7-11.He said his heart was always beating real fast and he was breathing heavy and all after that,and never did that again.It was alot of weight in a very short period of time.He was young,a teen,and he clearly has great genetics.I'm not siding either way,just throwing the facts out there.
EasyEJL
Never enough
He went from a muscular and moderately cut 185 to a concentration camp 121. not exactly the same as a rebound from competition diet
he said that the directors only wanted him to get down to the 140s, but once he was there he found it to be a challenge to see just how thin he could get...ReaperX
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Youth has nothing to do with it huh ? This is the 2nd or 3rd ridiculous statement you've made so far. You are very naive.
ReaperX
Well-known member
Sounds like a combination of high amounts of steroids,insulin, HGH,peptides, and clenbuterol on top of holding much more muscle than your body was ever intended to hold.
Sir Foxx
Active member
No, you just don't know very much. I can see you're going to be one of those people who when they look in the mirror and don't see the physique they want or desire, will blame it on not having access to the drugs that "everyone else is taking", instead of taking a long, hard look at the fact you don't know how to train or eat properly because you had to act like a know it all when you were young.
A tip for you. Look up DC training methods and actually learn from it and see what can be done through diet and training in as little as 3 months.
ReaperX
Well-known member
I've been training DC so I am familiar with them. I also too have made gains, however, my gains have been around 8-10lbs each year naturally. There isn't anything to lead me to believe otherwise else if I kept all things in my life constant but added sauce that my gains would increase to 15-20lbs/year easily.
GMG760
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Ok, the branch warren thing was funny. I think IFBB bodybuilders, any of them, are bad examples and should be left out of this thread. They are ALL on the sauce, and A LOT of it. There should be no debate about this, it is freaking obvious.
I don't get why everyone is arguing with Reaper, he is pretty much dead on the money. People, especially people who are older than 15-19, don't make these kinds of gains naturally. Like I said before, if you can show me how to do it, then I will fly you out to San Diego myself and you can train me to gain a natural and sustainable 20 lbs in 8 months. I would love to go from a cut 185 to a cut 205 by next spring and not screw with my hormones. That would be a 20 LBM increase. That would probably mean I would have to bulk up to around 225-235. Gain that much naturally in less than a year?! 185-235 is 50 lbs. You'd have to either being trying to be a fatty (IE eat PF Changs and Chilis on the regular) or get on some serious sauce, and if you went the fatty route, I bet when all was said and done you'd be back at your original weight.
Reaper - Your avatar is hillarious. :toofunny:
I don't get why everyone is arguing with Reaper, he is pretty much dead on the money. People, especially people who are older than 15-19, don't make these kinds of gains naturally. Like I said before, if you can show me how to do it, then I will fly you out to San Diego myself and you can train me to gain a natural and sustainable 20 lbs in 8 months. I would love to go from a cut 185 to a cut 205 by next spring and not screw with my hormones. That would be a 20 LBM increase. That would probably mean I would have to bulk up to around 225-235. Gain that much naturally in less than a year?! 185-235 is 50 lbs. You'd have to either being trying to be a fatty (IE eat PF Changs and Chilis on the regular) or get on some serious sauce, and if you went the fatty route, I bet when all was said and done you'd be back at your original weight.
Reaper - Your avatar is hillarious. :toofunny:
Ziquor
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ReaperX
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A simple change in weight MAY BE possible (i.e. starvation to being fat). However a change in muscle is impossible in such a short period of time.
Weight gain (i.e. fat,water,glycogen) may be possible however, but anyone who thinks you can make a muscular transformation in 16 weeks drug-free @ 40 yrs old is living in a fantasy world.
p.s. Love=diamonds apparently. LOL
ReaperX
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snagency
Banned
HELL yes dude!
Not only actresses, but BIG-TIME in the modeling biz..
Roger Clemens' wife did it yrs. ago for a photo shoot..
snagency
Banned
Wow, you are quick man..
Yep, Debbie & Roger shot each other up.. I think they were having a threesome w/ Brian McNamee..
thesinner
Recovering AXoholic
There's really no evidence either way. We're just comparing rumors and hearsay.
GMG760
Well-known member
Um, how about those pictures and the timeframes? That seems like evidence enough for me.
Nightwanderer
Well-known member
You know what though? I really appreciate that he's bothered to publicly state it for the latest rambo though. If a public figure can put his rep on the line and honestly say 'yeah, I'm a frickin' old man, of course I feel the need to juice in order to pull off the physique for another Rambo. And you Know what? steroids/HGH can really help improve the quality of an older man's life, so screw it'. As much as that tarnished his rep among the general public, if anything he should have gained respect for some open honesty. I mean, come on, we all know that the major bobdy building pros, the more noteworthy pro athletes in other sports, some actors both past and present, and musicians have used steroids during there careers, but few will admit it.
snagency
Banned
Don't give him too much credit man..
Sly's my boy, one of the people I've personally gotten the majority of my inspiration from (in fact, if you notice the quote in my signature line, that's from the last Rocky flick). BUT.. he didn't come out & talk about his usage until he got popped trying to take mega bottles of test & HGH into Australia while shooting Rambo.
In multiple interviews back in the day, when they asked him about how he got so ripped for Rocky IV, he said he ate nothing but burnt toast, protein powder, and a "super strain" of amino acids (uh, yeah -- AKA.. HGH).
But on the bright side, at least didn't do like a lot of guys caught redhanded, and say it was like his assistant's or some lame sh!t..
pantera101
Banned
Wow I didn't know that!He was 19,he ate an ass load of pints of ice cream.One after the other.And a big ass pizza.This was just right after the show.Also 3 meals at one reastauraunt and a pizza delivered to the hotel and another on the way home.He said he gained 40lbs in 2 days.His back hurt walking up stairs.He couldn't tie his shoes and he could hardly breath.He was so miserable he didn't eat for almost a whole day and he did lots of cardio.
Just because someones not a profesional bb'r doesn't mean they don't have the genetics to become one.Do you honestly think every one in this world who has those genetics is a pro?Theirs probably plenty of them who are over weight or straight up skinny.Markus Ruhel was 130 at 5'11" when he started.Yes I know.Markus uses lots of test,GH,and slin!!!!!!!!But drugs are only part of the equation.
pantera101
Banned
Ok.Next time I think of someone to give an example of what can happen after a competition diet,which is all I was doing.I'll pick anyone else who has never done a competition diet instead.
pantera101
Banned
I heard they look at it as the fountain of youth.
Nightwanderer
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lol that's funny, but it also true. I mean, there are those among us on the boards who get their test from synovex conversions, which wouldn't be possible if the majority of the cattle industry wasn't juicing up the livestock.
snagency
Banned
Yeah. Nick Nolte was one of the first (years ago) to come out & say he used it, & how good it made him feel, how it was keeping him "youthful"..
I dunno tho; you seen that dude lately? I don't think he's the right individual you'd want to be a poster boy for a fountain of youth.. that mug looks ancient as hell.
Nightwanderer
Well-known member
yeah that's what I mean though. I mean, he got caught with it, but once he did, he kept his integrity and has since been quoted in writing advocating their use. I think most celebs would just refuse to make statements and hope it dies down, and instead he took responsibility for himself in a way many wouldn't have the stones to. (pun intended). I'm currently on my very first Test cycle and am treating it the same way. If no one at my gym asks, I'm not going to say anything, but if they ask directly I'll have no problems explaining to them that yes I'm experimenting right now to see if this is something that could be worthwhile for me from a rehab perspective, and that yeah, expediently gaining some serious mass in the process is a nice big bonus that definitely swayed my judgement in making my decision to use. A trainer at my gym saw me out of my wheelchair on my knees doing some cable pulls and going all out. He was glad to see me going at it with such intensity and offered to train me here and there free of charge when he had free time, so I flat out told him that that'd be great and I'd like him to push me extra hard because I'm running my first test cycle and gave the same reasonings I stated above. He's since greeted me as a friend whenever he sees me and proceeds to help me out as best he can, so, I took that as a lesson learned in how it can be very beneficial for a person to be honest and forthcoming, even when they feel they might be risking their perceived public image.
pantera101
Banned
What are you rehabing from?What happened?
ReaperX
Well-known member
X2.
Maybe we don't have actual confessions and used needles, but being that it is very, very, very, very unlikely that they did it naturally, one would assume they used drugs.
Plus the timeframe pictures seem like enough evidence to me.
There's no gray area in this.
They either used drugs or didn't. Even if it was a small amount.
I'll bet my 401 K that they did.