MMV2= Meister-Mayhem-Violence 2 All Log!
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thundergod
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I'm so sorry that I haven't gotten back to your question yet. Forgive me. I've been busier than a beaver in a saw mill!! Yes to your answer. If you stay around maintainance calories, work out hard, cut down rest time between sets, and add some cardio, you will definately lean out and harden up!! This may be the fastest acting compound I have ever had the pleasure of running. You can actually "feel" it from Day 1, and by Day 3 it's running wild through you!!:woohoo: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thundergod
Well-known member
Odin knows that I hate to sound stupid, but what is DNP? I know I've read of it, but forgot what it is. Thanks Easy. U DA MAN!!!:box:
pistonpump
Banned
i dangerous explosive compound used to lose weight like no other
thundergod
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DAY 14---- Just finished my Legs and Shoulders workout. WHEW!! Is this stuff gonna level off or what?! It's really taking off like a freaking rocket now!! I went up 15 extra pounds on Squats. 10 extra pounds on Leg Extensions. 10 extra pounds on One-Legged Hamstring Curls. 20 extra pounds on Machine Shoulder Presses!! All reps stayed the same too. 12 reps on each exercise. It just keeps getting more intense as I go:aargh:. I take 3 caps of MMV2 1 hour before my workouts, and I've never been so fired-up and eager to slam the weights around!! I've got 16 more days after today. I think with the addition of the Receptor, these last 16 days are gonna rock my universe!!:head: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer: P.S.--The Lipotropic Protein is awesome. LG Sciences RULE:head:
thundergod
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Can you tell me what the abbreviation means? DNP? I'm not too lazy to do my own searching:gotsearch, but 3 letters is not enough to do the search properly. Thanks Piston. You're the greatest!!:head: I'm not really looking into it for super weight loss, but for its supposed receptor cleansing abilities.
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Glad your liking it TD!!!!
Try mixing it with Chocolate soy milk or the chocolate hood calorie count down milk.....you wont be disappointed :dance:
pistonpump
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DNP
Steroid Profile: DNP
DNP, 2,4-Dinitrophenol, was first introduced to the bodybuilding world in the late 1990's by Dan Duchaine. Before that, though, DNP has had in interesting history: It has been used as a dye, fungicide, herbicide and an insecticide. It has even been used as an explosive; it was an alternative to TNT. In the 1930's it was also used as a dieting aid. Knowing all that, it's logical to assume that DNP can be very dangerous if used carelessly.
About DNP
DNP depletes the levels of ATP in the muscles. ATP is the part of the cell that carries energy and is required for the survival of the cells. Because of the depletion, the body must work harder to produce more ATP. In simple terms, DNP raises the body's temperature and metabolic rate – the body will use more energy in whatever it does.
Side Effects of DNP
As mentioned before, DNP is a dangerous substance. It can cause blindness and other vision problems and extreme temperatures (even as much as 104 degrees or higher which can cause brain damage). It has even been the reported cause of a few deaths – an overdose of only four times the recommended amount is lethal.
Daily intake of DNP can increase metabolism by as much as 50% which can burn about one pound of fat each day. Because of this increased metabolism, DNP can promote weight loss. First, the body will use stored fat to help make up for the extra energy needed. Losing fat is a good thing, but the side effects of this loss need to carefully examined and disclosed before use.
There are other things that happed due to this needed energy, however. Your body is working harder to create this needed energy, so you'll feel tired quicker. Your endurance will also decrease. Other dangerous effects on the body include an increase in breathing rate, thickening and slowing of the blood and increasing oxygen consumption by the lungs. Add these three effects together and your heart and cardiac systems will have to work harder to get the needed blood to the muscles. For athletes, this is not good news. Performance will probably suffer which makes DNP a poor choice for performing athletes.
Using DNP
Using DNP, even under strict regimens to help reduce the negative side effects is not just as easy as "using" the steroid. There are other considerations as well. First of all, it's important to keep carbohydrate intake up. Since people who have used DNP report craving carbs, this shouldn't be too difficult. The body on DNP burns carbs quickly, so eating them after workouts is a good idea. Additionally, water intake should be up to around two gallons per day. That, along with a multivitamin and energy supplements will help lower the risk of side effects
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Steroid Profile: DNP
DNP, 2,4-Dinitrophenol, was first introduced to the bodybuilding world in the late 1990's by Dan Duchaine. Before that, though, DNP has had in interesting history: It has been used as a dye, fungicide, herbicide and an insecticide. It has even been used as an explosive; it was an alternative to TNT. In the 1930's it was also used as a dieting aid. Knowing all that, it's logical to assume that DNP can be very dangerous if used carelessly.
About DNP
DNP depletes the levels of ATP in the muscles. ATP is the part of the cell that carries energy and is required for the survival of the cells. Because of the depletion, the body must work harder to produce more ATP. In simple terms, DNP raises the body's temperature and metabolic rate – the body will use more energy in whatever it does.
Side Effects of DNP
As mentioned before, DNP is a dangerous substance. It can cause blindness and other vision problems and extreme temperatures (even as much as 104 degrees or higher which can cause brain damage). It has even been the reported cause of a few deaths – an overdose of only four times the recommended amount is lethal.
Daily intake of DNP can increase metabolism by as much as 50% which can burn about one pound of fat each day. Because of this increased metabolism, DNP can promote weight loss. First, the body will use stored fat to help make up for the extra energy needed. Losing fat is a good thing, but the side effects of this loss need to carefully examined and disclosed before use.
There are other things that happed due to this needed energy, however. Your body is working harder to create this needed energy, so you'll feel tired quicker. Your endurance will also decrease. Other dangerous effects on the body include an increase in breathing rate, thickening and slowing of the blood and increasing oxygen consumption by the lungs. Add these three effects together and your heart and cardiac systems will have to work harder to get the needed blood to the muscles. For athletes, this is not good news. Performance will probably suffer which makes DNP a poor choice for performing athletes.
Using DNP
Using DNP, even under strict regimens to help reduce the negative side effects is not just as easy as "using" the steroid. There are other considerations as well. First of all, it's important to keep carbohydrate intake up. Since people who have used DNP report craving carbs, this shouldn't be too difficult. The body on DNP burns carbs quickly, so eating them after workouts is a good idea. Additionally, water intake should be up to around two gallons per day. That, along with a multivitamin and energy supplements will help lower the risk of side effects
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thundergod
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As always, thanks for the educational info Piston!:thumbsup: But, DNP sounds like something I would NEVER take! I've been doing some reading on "receptor cleansing" threads this morning, and it seems a lot of people don't even think such a thing is possible. And some say androgen receptor down-regulation can't be scientifically proven as of yet. But, I've got a lot more reading to do, so.....:run:
mcneil0303
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ThunderGod you are the mannn!!!! this stuff sounds sick if you really went up that amount of weigh on almost every leg and shoulder exercise.
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thundergod
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It is truly an honor to be here, I rarely ever visit the "other" boards anymore. I don't care for their flaming insults, rudeness to "newbies", know-it-all-attitudes, or their worthless "bro-knowledge"!! This is THE place for information, comraderie, and support. AnabolicMinds/Forums is the place to learn!!:study: :type::thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thebigt
Legend
got more than a few of us mature guys here, im 49 btw and can still get up 345 on bench on a good day. look for posts by dutchman, he's in his 60's and still powerlifts.
thundergod
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I'll be 44 in a couple of months. And both you and Dutchman are huge inspirations to me. I became a formestane junkie because of you and dutchman. Thanks for all the formestane tips and information I learned from both of you. :wave: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thebigt
Legend
back at ya! 2 more weeks of primal male then i plan on running mmv2/11oxo/formestane. i understand that 11oxo is suppressive run at 6ed, hope the primal male will get test elevated going into cycle. how is the mmv2 on suppression so far?:burger:
thundergod
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Even though I'm double-dosing it upon the request of the LG Sciences' reps, I don't "feel" very shut-down at all. Of course you can't judge suppression completely by how you "feel", but I feel only slightly suppressed at best. I will still run a proper PCT of course. Probably just 3 weeks though. I'll start with a high dosage of my home-made PCS SERM I purchased in bulk on the different compounds. The Trans-resveratrol, quercetin, horny goat weed powder (20% icariin), plus also some DHEA, and bulk testofen powder. At this same time, I'll start my transdermal formestane at low dose and ramp up on it, as I inversely lower the natty SERM dosages. It's a good PCT I've used several times in the past. Then after a short break, I'm gonna log an insane cycle I've got planned!!:study: :fool2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thebigt
Legend
you the man, can't wait to see what you come up with. btw go look a dr.d's post in neo's formestane thread. ive ran form into pct many times, but dr.d says best way to do it is form on cycle hdx2 for pct, some kind of synergy seems to happen doing it this way. check it out. btw its 5:30 am in indiana! oh yeah, i forgot to mention that i saw where you have used td form/trione combo, i have been pushing it for months, good to see someone else has tried this, good stuff.:burger:
thundergod
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Hey thebigt--- Do you run your formestane while "on" cycle, or during PCT? Or do you use it during both times, and then take a little break? Also how do you dose your formestane anyway?:think: I'm just curious. I was reading a thread earlier today that led me to believe that maybe I've been over dosing my AI's. I was told a good PCT formestane transdermal dosage would be 4 weeks at 20,30, 40, and then 60 mg. once per day. I thought that this was pretty low doses IMO!! I've been using up to 150 mg. per day (I split mine up into 2 doses per day, 12 hours apart) during the last 2 weeks of PCT. I don't want to waste my precious form! Help dude! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thundergod
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Every time I make up some more transdermal AI, I mix 5 grams of Formestane and 5 grams of Androstenetrione into an 8 oz. bottle of Penetrate. I do this EVERY time!! Yeilds me 20 mg. of both compounds per 2 ml. of solution. Celc5 gave me this idea about 4 months ago. By the way, WHERE are you Celc5? THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thebigt
Legend
i used to run formestane on cycle at low doses then ramp up for pct, after reading the doc's post i will be trying it that way. i love the effects of td form on cycle it really pumped up an epi cycle. btw celc is my bud, we throw stuff out to think about all the time. you can't go wrong with celc, a real straight shooter.
thundergod
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So when do you NOT use formestane? Do you take a little break after PCT? And for how long do you stay off before going back on? And what's your dosages like if you don't mind me asking? I know Formestane is great for us older guys!
thebigt
Legend
i usually run 3 cycles a year, and run form on them all, pct also. i also do test booster cycles like dthc or activate 3 time a year all with formestane. i would say i go through 8-10 bottles of e-form a year. i start out at 3 sprays 2xday, but 6x2 is where its at for me. i tried to go legit and asked my doc for andro gel, when test came back he laughed at me, guess i was blessed with a good baseline. prostate test also came back with good results. i am thinking to make stoked or pcs a bridge between cycles. only prob i have is bad joints, got any hints. oh yeah, to answer your question i hardly ever go more than a month off form and most of the time less than 2 months on. it seems to work for me.
thundergod
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Yeah, I've got a couple of hints about the bad joints you speak of. I know lots of people use and recommend cissus for joint pain. I've never used it personally. I take 20 grams of healthy efa's everyday. 12 grams of fish oil and 8 grams of flax seed oil. Those healthy fats are good for a plethora of things, but I especially believe it helps to keep my old joints lubricated. I don't know how you dose your fish oil, but you might want to give the larger doses a trial run for a month and see how you feel.:thumbsup: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
mcneil0303
Member
thundergod i know its been only 2 weeks but have you noticed any body changes to date? weight?
thundergod
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Vascularity has improved quickly on this compound. Got some cool veinage going on! I've lost 3 pounds, but this was a cut and recomp anyway. So, it's doing just what I wanted it to do, but even better than I expected. I am pleasantly surprised with this product. Goes to work fast and it IS strong!! I'm especially honored to have been allowed to double-dose it due to my size and past PH experience. The Lipotropic protein is very tasty and is helping me maintain lean body mass I gained from my last cycle, which was a Methoxy TRN/TST combo with with 15 mg. of phera and 12 mg. of M-Dien thrown into the mix daily. It was a great cycle!!:twisted: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
3clipseGT
On my grind
I never got really any acne to speak of on this stuff and i dont recall of TG is, i dont beleive so but i could be wrong. A little here n there but nothing crazy. Now TST i have NO idea how people run that stuff. Mountains and mountains of acne. Ick! lol
TripDog
Bananas
Yea TST can give some mountains.....the big unpopable kind.
3clipseGT
On my grind
No doubt, ive got 2 bottles unopened and 1 half full ill probly never touch. lol
thundergod
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C'mon guys! A little acne won't kill ya!! Well, it doesn't bother me anyway. I'm a big ugly mutha as it is. Acne is kinda flattering at my age actually. I think it's cool to have zits at 44. All kidding aside, the TST is zits in a bottle fo sho! The MMV2 is not so bad. I've got a few small pimples on my shoulders and traps, but nothing major at all. Had a killer back and biceps workout this morning. It was DAY 16 for me. I'm thinking the rest of this ride is gonna pick up even more speed on the downhill dash. This cycle has been fun indeed!:dance:
bassgod272
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This is probably due to the dhea in the SDNG.
bassgod272
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Keep tearin it up in the gym bro!!! :clean:
EasyEJL
Never enough
it was more meant to be a deeper joke
for all the people have called the LG products "tweaked dhea", they seem to be quite effective and actually doing the conversions to their target anabolic. Where Superdrol NG is a nice preworkout supplement in a few ways, but "prasterone" on the label for "the worlds best selling prohormone" (dhea) just seemed kind of silly at best. Superdrol NG is the perfect pair for Superdrol OG tho, cause 1 NG an hour before taking OG almost completely obliterates the lethargy 
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3clipseGT
On my grind
Then send em to me
:lol:
TerribleTowel
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Then send em to me
Or better yet send them to me
bassgod272
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it was more meant to be a deeper joke
LOL, sorry i'm a little slow today.
thundergod
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I don't know about everyone else's opinion, but I'm liking this "tweaked Dhea" alot!! LG Sciences really got one right on this MMV2!! I've been perusing all the posts on it, and the consensus seems to be that MMV2 is really a good product! I see mostly positive feedback. Congratulations to LG Sciences for giving us a "new" androstane that works quickly and powerfully!!:clap2: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
thundergod
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UPDATE DAY 18--- Today is the only day of the week where I don't train at all.:sad: BORING!! I just want to report that MMV2 is in full gear now! The Receptor really made a difference in my opinion. I was only 5 days into my cycle when I added it in the mix. Thing's have been super-charged ever since:twisted:. The Lipotropic Protein is great also. It tastes really good, mixes very smoothly, and is keeping my LBM up. My bodyweight is virtually unchanged since starting this cycle (it has only fluctuated 3 or 4 pounds this whole time), but my definition and vascularity are really starting to show through now. I'll post some pics after this ride is over. I didn't really do "before" pics, but my avatar is only from late Feb. so I'll use that as a reference. I'm seeing a difference for sure. This is a great product that I WILL purchase and run in the future. It will have a place in my stash drawer and my aresenal to come!! I can't wait to stack this with something anabolic in the future. Thanks a million LG Sciences!! THE THUNDERGOD
poopypants
Banned
isnt it weird that it gives this unique kind of acne to just about everyone??? they are big ass red sore ones taht dont ever come to a head.... Its like the only kind that does that to me other compounds its just like normal acne.
thundergod
Well-known member
But other than the huge a$$ zits, I really do like TST. I feel really good while I'm on it. Seems to combat the lethargy from things like super-drol. And I believe it helped keep my libido sky-high during my last Methoxy TRN cycle. Despite the very mixed reviews, I like it!!:food: THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
Hate4TheWeak
Banned
Your an animal though thunderG!! You have to take that into consideration lol....I don't think I'd ever touch the sht personally, got enough acne already. Logs looking good brother take that rest day to refuel the machine and catch up on some R&R.
thundergod
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But as you can see, for everyone that says "no way, too many zits" and all of that, you'll see just as many people say, "o.k. send them to me if you don't want them". Funny thing, I never see anybody actually giving them away:think:, no matter if they say they'll never touch them again. That's weird. If I had something that I would absolutely not use, I'd give it away in a second. Take this into consideration as well!! THE THUNDERGOD:hammer:
