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Cool. Will stay at 20mg. (It'll be hard b/c I know I will want to be greedy...but I will keep it at 20mg. especially due to my size at only 185.)Don't go over 20 mgs.
Would you advise 3 weeks or 4 weeks?
Cool. Will stay at 20mg. (It'll be hard b/c I know I will want to be greedy...but I will keep it at 20mg. especially due to my size at only 185.)Don't go over 20 mgs.
i know that's all really high and crazy but nothing is happening. maybe i got ripped off, who knows. but i did have some heart palpitations when i was taking 30mg so i dropped back to 20mg.
Because I weight 40 lbs less than you, thats how.233.5lbs
Day 12
Half a pound up after foodpoisining...stomachstill upset today. I cant eat well but i am trying my best. Haha, i counted my calories two days ago and i was over 9000 CALORIES...
My usual diet must be around 6000+ this is crazy, i have no idea how some people only eat 4500.
I did with superdrol, even at 10mg for my first cycle. I am currently on day 12 of my second sd cycle and I am running 15mg and haven't noticed a single side. I think I wasn't drinking enough water.any of you had problems with heart palpitations?
I agree, seems as though his diet is way out of whack. If he could post his diet and workout regime in another thread maybe we could help him out.I also wanted to ask you bout your diet and work out regimine because if i remembe correctly your like 5ft 7 and 150lbs with over 20% body fat right? Those numbers all seem like your diet and work out is off. I mean i'm by no means huge but right now i'm 5ft 1 approx 150lbs and under 15% bf so we are the same weight and your 6 inches taller than me with a higher bf%
Go for a 4 weeker... Superdrol is what people seem to say that the gains usualy taper off after 3 weeks, but it kicks in alot faster than pp. I think 4 weeks us optimum for pp imo.Cool. Will stay at 20mg. (It'll be hard b/c I know I will want to be greedy...but I will keep it at 20mg. especially due to my size at only 185.)
Would you advise 3 weeks or 4 weeks?
I am in the middle of my second week of pp alone and gains have been good so far. Is the 3 rd week supposed to be the best for everyone?:good:
We are SO on the same page/timeline and have same questions... I'm on day 13 of standalone PP. FWIW, I read that PCT should take about the same length as your "on" cycle. And then wait at least 6 weeks before beginning to pre-load support supps for another cycle. you want your test to come back up and get everything going again but of course don't want to just turn around and shut it down too quickly. Personally, I will wait until Thanksgiving or Christmas to do another cycle (will be another pp standalone.)hey so how long should one wait till another cycle? i prob would do the pp alone again most likely
I will be interested to see what others have to say about how long to wait. (I suppose we should be searching the PCT forums too... )
Yea, Time "ON" + PCT = Time OffCycle Length + post cycle therapy Length = Wait time minimum
i.e. 4 week cycle + 4 week PCT = 8 weeks minimum before starting another cycle after completion of previous cycle PCT.
that's the rule of thumb I've always heard.
Cops!?246.5lbs
Day 50
Weight loss was entirely my fault. Another night to forget!! Haha, i am having bad luck lately. Oh well, the cops wouldn't let up on how i am on the juice!!
is gaspari's novadex good enough for post-cycle as well as on-cycle with phera? Don't have the money to use nolvadex.:bb2: :squat:
I think you are right in Nolva being cheaper than Gaspari's Nova.is gaspari's novadex good enough for post-cycle as well as on-cycle with phera? Don't have the money to use nolvadex.:bb2: :squat:
Yeah I think it's in reverse of that. I'm planning on running Nolva 40/30/20.Nolva 10/20/20/30? that sound right or is it in reverse? I'm not well experienced as it is prescript and i am not very into that. Althought i would be if not for prior contracts. i.e. the service.
what do u recommend for the pct? thnks!Yeah I think it's in reverse of that. I'm planning on running Nolva 40/30/20.
Right now I have Nolva, Retain, Fenugreek, DHEA. Debating Rebound but was advised it would be overkill. Also debating ActivaTe. Really torn about this. I just one day ahead of you (start 3rd week Monday) and will probably stop at 3 weeks...We'll see. If I go 4 weeks, I will PCT 4 weeks. If I go 3 "on", then 3 for PCT. Haven't been able to search the PCT forums much the last day or two. Will hit the search hard tonight and tomorrow. What are you thinking for PCT?what do u recommend for the post cycle therapy? thnks!
Absolutely recommend a post cycle therapy. The main purpose of PCT is get your testosterone output back up where it belongs. Phera-plex when taken at reasonable doses is not very supressive of testosterone output, but you still need PCT. Just don't super suppress your estrogen level and then let it bounce back overshooting normal levels and then suppressing testosterone at the end of PCT (estrogen rebound). Either tamper off estrogen suppresors slowly or end with ATD (or both).from those that have taken phera...do you recommend a post cycle even though you say it doesn't aromatize? you all have been a huge help!!:bb:
Definitely.Any thoughts about using Nolva, Retain, Fenu, and DHEA for post cycle therapy after a PP standalone?
Yes, seems Retain and Lean Xtreme are similar. I have a bottle of Retain but wanted to try the Lean Xtreme...No biggie. I will be going with Nolva (I REALLY THINK YOU/ANYONE SHOULD GET THIS!!!), Retain, Fenu, DHEA, maybe some trib and/or maca.i was not sure on what to use right yet. I heard retain is good. I dont wanna get anything that needs script so im trying to keep it simple. What else u think? Thanks!
Rebound Reloaded in replacement of nolva.../Lean Xtreme/Activate Maca/Fenugreek and Milk Thistle for liver.if i decided against nolva...what would you all recommend?
try our board sponsors. and compare prices.what is the cheapest site to get rebound reloaded?
edit - took out nolva as we have talked about that. i have no probs with gyno never have. but some are. milk thistle yadda and ... fish/flax good. hawthorne berry if you experience headaches or high blood pressure. policosonol is good for post cycle therapy. Fenugreek and MACA w. RR afterwards for PCT.Thanks bro...as far as that goes...now another question that you all are probably sick of hearing from me..is what should i take in conjunction to the pheraplex..for example...i'll be taking fish oils, flax oil, calcium tab,animal pak, liver tab...what else? :bb:
All that stuff that gotripped said...Thanks bro...as far as that goes...now another question that you all are probably sick of hearing from me..is what should i take in conjunction to the pheraplex..for example...i'll be taking fish oils, flax oil, calcium tab,animal pak, liver tab...what else? :bb:
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