I'd be happy to. Hit me up.Trauma, if I were to PM you with the basics of my diet, training routine, and plans for my cycle, would you be able to give it a once over for me? or at least point me in the direction of someone who could...
I'd be happy to. Hit me up.Trauma, if I were to PM you with the basics of my diet, training routine, and plans for my cycle, would you be able to give it a once over for me? or at least point me in the direction of someone who could...
Yes, adequate fluid intake is an absolute must in muscle pump prevention. Adding in taurine and electrolytes(sodium,potassium,calcium) will also add a great deal of benefit.havoc is a beast and listen when it says drink plenty of fluids because i went a few days without drinking lots of water and i got muscle pumps in my back so bad i was nearly down to my knees it hurt so bad
ouch....I don't envy how that must have felt.havoc is a beast and listen when it says drink plenty of fluids because i went a few days without drinking lots of water and i got muscle pumps in my back so bad i was nearly down to my knees it hurt so bad
I would definitely stop taking the venom until after your pct is complete. Otherwise you'll be sacrificing hard earned muscle at this point. There will be plenty of time to cut up and show off your new muscle.hey trauma i just ordered some bcaa and taurine i have about two weeks left of havoc i was wondering how i should take the taurine and bcaa with the havoc. also i am takin venom by alr to cut weight should i stop takin that
Glad you enjoyed the havoc. I will say though that running two methylated compounds together is not a wise choice overall, however i won't preach and will leave it at that. Remember safety ALWAYS comes first. Just make sure you get some bloodwork done when your cycle is done to make sure all is fairly decent with lab values.Iam onmy last week of Havoc and Hdrol. Very happy with the gains. The pumps at 40 are amazing. I did not feel much at 30
I did 30/30/40/40 with Hdrol at 50/75/100/100. Very minimal sides, I started at 193 and today I was at 211. It hell crazy that I gained all my weight though in one week. That I do not understand. I was thinking lots of water retention, but these compunds are supposed to be dry, And I drink coffee 3 days a week at night to keep me awake through the night. The only thing I can think of is I added albuterol just prior to my workouts starting on my 3rd week. Just to give me some added energy. Strengh wise, it worked wonders for me.
I hope to get to it shortly. I just have a lot on my plate right now, but i assure you it WILL be done......eventually.Subbed. Looking forward to the pulse advice.
How bout san attitude? non methyl?A few off the top of my head........Revolt, X-Mass, and Ergomax-LMG.
I had no idea what it was so i looked it up. San's "Attitude" is a test booster using the aromatase inhibition of ATD and 3-OHAT. Not something you'd want to add in during your havoc cycle.How bout san attitude? non methyl?
liver function tests from numerous testers, both during and after cycle, while elevated slightly show the compound to be comparably benign.how much negative effect does Havoc have on the Liver or can someone point me in the direction of a post already covering this. yes I "got search" already
Thanx, how about formadrol by legal gear or axis ht?I had no idea what it was so i looked it up. San's "Attitude" is a test booster using the aromatase inhibition of ATD and 3-OHAT. Not something you'd want to add in during your havoc cycle.
If you're looking to add a great compound to stack with Havoc i would suggest Anabolic Xtreme's: 3-AD. I think the two would have a very good synergy. I logged the beta for 3-AD a few months ago. Do a quick search for the log(T1's 3-AD Tester Log Redux) in the supplement review/log section.Thanx, how about formadrol by legal gear or axis ht?
Thanx a lot bro! I'll try the first cycle solo Havoc, but should I add tribulus to offset libido? What effects would that have on the potency of havoc?If you're looking to add a great compound to stack with Havoc i would suggest Anabolic Xtreme's: 3-AD. I think the two would have a very good synergy. I logged the beta for 3-AD a few months ago. Do a quick search for the log(T1's 3-AD Tester Log Redux) in the supplement review/log section.
Havoc as a compound will give you amazing gains all in itself. If you haven't used havoc before i'd suggest running a Havoc cycle solo to gain knowledge of the compound and its effects on your body.
I would add DHEA to hep with libido and joints.Thanx a lot bro! I'll try the first cycle solo Havoc, but should I add tribulus to offset libido? What effects would that have on the potency of havoc?
I'm looking forward to trying it myself.I would add DHEA to hep with libido and joints.
I've also been using Diesel Test Hardcore, and find it impressive.
Start at page one of this thread. Neoborn also has another thread with everything you need to know. All your answers are in both. Good luck.hows it going fellas i am currently running a 2 week cycle of havoc at 20 mg a day and i can already see a shrinkin of my glandular gyno and a tightening of my puffy a** nips. I am going to buy my PCT supplies tommrow i am going to go with 60x0 extreme tribulus and creatine...should i run the 60x0 for just weeks like my cycle and how about the tribulus? need a little input here gents ur help is greatly appreciated. This stuff is crazy on my strenght!!!
Yeah - I think that looks pretty good. It should definitely give you some very nice endurance boost effects dosing it pre-workout. The PLCAR in DCP will also enhance androgen receptor proliferation increasing potential muscle mass gains.how do you recommend dosing the DCP during cycle, I was thinking
3- pre cardio
2- 30 min before lunch and dinner
is it as simple as that?
PM me and i'll help you set up a decent PCT for your havoc cycle.hows it going fellas i am currently running a 2 week cycle of havoc at 20 mg a day and i can already see a shrinkin of my glandular gyno and a tightening of my puffy a** nips. I am going to buy my PCT supplies tommrow i am going to go with 60x0 extreme tribulus and creatine...should i run the 60x0 for just weeks like my cycle and how about the tribulus? need a little input here gents ur help is greatly appreciated. This stuff is crazy on my strenght!!!
Thank you sir. My write-up is still a work in progress. More to be added until i perfect that bad boy!Start at page one of this thread. Neoborn also has another thread with everything you need to know. All your answers are in both. Good luck.
Sorry man, just been busy lately. I have it and i'll be sending a reply shortly.Trauma1 I am not sure if my messages are being sent my computer is freaking out have you recieved my personal messages about the PCT? dont want to bother you just checking to see if I am even sending out my questions or not...thanks again
I'd take it anywhere from 45 mins - 1 hour beforehand for best effect.curiousity, the pre-workout dose can or shouldbe taken 30 min or an hour before you workout
Since 3-AD is an "Ester compound" would this add any extra strain on the liver if it were run with a methyl such as Havoc?If you're looking to add a great compound to stack with Havoc i would suggest Anabolic Xtreme's: 3-AD. I think the two would have a very good synergy. I logged the beta for 3-AD a few months ago. Do a quick search for the log(T1's 3-AD Tester Log Redux) in the supplement review/log section.
Havoc as a compound will give you amazing gains all in itself. If you haven't used havoc before i'd suggest running a Havoc cycle solo to gain knowledge of the compound and its effects on your body.
Yes - it will add additional stress. However, the degree of that is dependent upon many factors such as dosing, previous/current medical conditions, and total length of time taken.Since 3-AD is an "Ester compound" would this add any extra strain on the liver if it were run with a methyl such as Havoc?
so after reading much of the forum on havoc and post cycle therapy, I honest feel like i have gotten myself in two deep and am looking for some advice. I was recommended havoc by a friend. I am entering week 4 of my cycle of 10/20/20/30. Starting weight: 189 lbs Current weight: 195 lbs. I do not plan on exceeding 4 weeks in this cycle, however, I'm pretty confused about the post cycle therapy and what I should get as a first timer. Can you help??
Good man Trauma. Way to help out!!!! Reps when I can.You should ALWAYS have you PCT supplements in hand and mapped out before you even start your cycle. PM me and i'll help you get this together.
Good man Trauma. Way to help out!!!! Reps when I can.
Do you mean on cycle with havoc?can i use an anti estrogen w/havoc while i am dieting?
Havoc in itself will suppress estrogen to a degree due to the compounds AI qualities. You don't need to use an AI with it.yes, use both because i am dieting down. i do not want to put weight on. i want to cut and harden.
yea, thats the thing is i am not concerned with any lean/bulking. its a little to late to put on size. i am only concerned with cutting/hardening. my diet and training and cardio r dialled in. check out my pix from last summer, just so u know i live for this sport and am serious. steroid free!Havoc in itself will suppress estrogen to a degree due to the compounds AI qualities. You don't need to use an AI with it.
If you diet is geared correctly, you can make a very nice lean bulk/recomp cycle with Havoc. Remember - Having a diet specifically set-up for something like this is absolutely paramount. If done correctly, the results should be amazing.
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