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formestane...Well I'm seeing my endo a week early on Friday. Will have been on for 10 days by that point and will either ask for hcg + higher dose or to be pulled off and given clomid/ anything to increase natty production. What rx products can increase test naturally/ not cause shut down?
Well lets go this route... Do you plan on staying on it forever? If not, taking it for a while and then stopping is only going to set you back.Well I saw dr and he increased my adroderm patch to 4mg from 2. And drew blood. Wouldn't entertain anything else atthe time since it's only been 10 days... In just worried that staying on too long will shut me off.
Well I do, but I plan on stopping if I have to in order to have kids. Idk.. It's only been 10 days. Another 20 or 30 shouldn't really set me back so much? He needs to assess the effects and then figure out If we can add anything like hcg or move to clomid..Well lets go this route... Do you plan on staying on it forever? If not, taking it for a while and then stopping is only going to set you back.
- Valdez
My captain - On TRT for.3 years an RX of HCG and he got his wife pregnant. There is no guarantee though everyone responds differently to different things.Well I do, but I plan on stopping if I have to in order to have kids. Idk.. It's only been 10 days. Another 20 or 30 shouldn't really set me back so much? He needs to assess the effects and then figure out If we can add anything like hcg or move to clomid..
There are no guarantees... More than likely yes, but THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. You will have to basically PCT off of the TRT depending on your body who knows how long that will take if ever. You more than likely will be given Clomid and will be forced to get your own natural testosterone up.Hey guys if you stop trt will sperm and fertility come back if you wanna have a baby? Or are you screwed for life? I also haven't noticed any strength gains being on trt of 200mg a week test cypionate injections. I didn't expect extreme strength difference but I honestly feel it hasn't changed either.
It doesn't, I was actually stronger before TRT.I didn't expect extreme strength difference but I honestly feel it hasn't changed either.
Not necessarily true and that's quite the bold assertion to make.It doesn't, I was actually stronger before TRT.
I meant that it doesn't give you a boost in strength, like you don't feel it immediately (like a preworkout stimulant). That's what I thought before I started TRT, that testosterone injections would be like an adrenalin rush or something haha I look at test being more like a protein shake, helps you rebuild, in a major way though.Not necessarily true and that's quite the bold assertion to make.
Testosterone given to someone dialed in on everything -adequate sleep, zero changes in diet and training should elicit strength increases. At the beginning you have to remember you are still getting your levels to where you want them, so you may be going low at times during the initial phases. In addition, delivery method has a decent effect i.e. injections vs gel, I've almost always seen more bodybuilding specific benefits in injections.
- Valdez
Oh ok, my mistake. Yes it is not an immediate effect although some people do report with feeling "something" (probably placebo).I meant that it doesn't give you a boost in strength, like you don't feel it immediately (like a preworkout stimulant). That's what I thought before I started TRT, that testosterone injections would be like an adrenalin rush or something haha I look at test being more like a protein shake, helps you rebuild, in a major way though.
No ****ing way! Where are you getting that much test?! Also, total test 1908 is NOT a level you want to maintain for extended periods of time.Valdez, my levels before trt were free test of 320 and total test around 480 and now my numbers are free test 648, total test 1908 and estrogen was 12. I am going by memory on the pre test trt results I'm still trying to find the paperwork.
Protein shakes really don't mean all that much. Eat more protein. Hey some good whole animal proteins in brother.I actually load up on protein shakes 3 times a day. I have a back ground in training and pretty much know what I'm doing in the gym. I hardly get adequate sleep every day though about 5 hours. I also am under a lot of stress right now in my life. I get 200mg of test cypionate 1cc once a week by injection.
No no that's not where the question lies...I am think it was ng/dl ill double check paperwork when I get home and post it but I'm pretty sure it was ng/dl
I think u are the incredible hulk or u need a new lab ASAP.Ok I checked the results, free and total testosterone was 1908 ng/dl with reference range 250-1100. My free testosterone was 643.0 pg/ml reference range being 35.0-155.0 that's the numbers folks. Let me know what you think guys. I am going to do another lab in a month or two.
True. Strength increases will most definitely come, but I think people expect it to be a night and day difference. What it does more than make you stronger, is it changes composition, lowers BF, puts muscle weight on, and dramatically decreases recovery time. When this happens, it becomes mental and you see changes, so you are encouraged to do more.Not necessarily true and that's quite the bold assertion to make.
Testosterone given to someone dialed in on everything -adequate sleep, zero changes in diet and training should elicit strength increases. At the beginning you have to remember you are still getting your levels to where you want them, so you may be going low at times during the initial phases. In addition, delivery method has a decent effect i.e. injections vs gel, I've almost always seen more bodybuilding specific benefits in injections.
- Valdez
I think that you really need evaluate everything at 1908 strength should be the least of your concerns. You should get a pump when you sneeze dude.Ok I checked the results, free and total testosterone was 1908 ng/dl with reference range 250-1100. My free testosterone was 643.0 pg/ml reference range being 35.0-155.0 that's the numbers folks. Let me know what you think guys. I am going to do another lab in a month or two.
Absolutely brother. All the dudes at my station are on TRT except myself and they recover so quickly its unreal!!!!True. Strength increases will most definitely come, but I think people expect it to be a night and day difference. What it does more than make you stronger, is it changes composition, lowers BF, puts muscle weight on, and dramatically decreases recovery time. When this happens, it becomes mental and you see changes, so you are encouraged to do more.
I was doing a lot of HIIT over the summer because I was doing a lot of events and competitions that involved a high cardio level. TRT really helped my recovery after hard training and my body didn't break down like it might have. Now for the last couple of months I decided I wanted to break my old "big 3" lifts and have been concentrating on that. I smashed them after only 2 months after not lifting for 2-3 rep purposes in over two years. This is mainly because TRT allows me to train that much harder and remain strong instead of needed twice as long to recover.
My results at 200mg/ week are almost identical, I can hit the gym like a madman and recover in 48hrs. My BW on 200 mg is total T 1100, 1900 does not sound right. This should have alarmed your doc. At 1900 your not doing TRT, you are on a cycle!True. Strength increases will most definitely come, but I think people expect it to be a night and day difference. What it does more than make you stronger, is it changes composition, lowers BF, puts muscle weight on, and dramatically decreases recovery time. When this happens, it becomes mental and you see changes, so you are encouraged to do more.
I was doing a lot of HIIT over the summer because I was doing a lot of events and competitions that involved a high cardio level. TRT really helped my recovery after hard training and my body didn't break down like it might have. Now for the last couple of months I decided I wanted to break my old "big 3" lifts and have been concentrating on that. I smashed them after only 2 months after not lifting for 2-3 rep purposes in over two years. This is mainly because TRT allows me to train that much harder and remain strong instead of needed twice as long to recover.
soooo.... wait... No solutions involving restarting your own production?Well another endo today told me to stop taking the patch and said he wouldnt prescribe it to anyone. He would do injections but ONLY once levels dropped below 200. He recommended I stopped. Idk what to do now... I honestly don't think I feel Any better while being on now for two weeks.
I will have results from a draw last week once my doctor gets power back lol here in CT. I will assess whether or not it is worth it to continue. I feel like I have had small positive changes in body comp. Mood has gotten better.. But also quicker to get mad. Lastly, my energy feels like it might be worse!
No. The one I saw today straightup said "you're fine you don't need this" and stop today... I asked if I could be shut down after two weeks and if I needed anything to restart and he said no, just stopsoooo.... wait... No solutions involving restarting your own production?
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... this guy is a a bigger idiot then your doc...No. The one I saw today straightup said "you're fine you don't need this" and stop today... I asked if I could be shut down after two weeks and if I needed anything to restart and he said no, just stop
Well I did have that moment the first three days but then it stopped and I attributed it to placebo. I guess I will schedule a new doctor again lol.biggest issue I have is body aches and muscle burning. I am gonna see a rheumatologist now as well.I feel bad that you are having such terrible luck with these doctors. Each seems to be less competent than the last.
BTW- I don't know anyone that noticed full effects until they were on test for at least 4 weeks, and that was with injections. Some mild effects would be noticed, but I wouldn't expect to have an "oh ****" moment this early on.
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