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Word.If you are progressing, I wouldn't worry.
Worrying will do nothing to solve the problem.
I'm actually fine with my upper body strength and progress. The huge drop off in the squat is what makes me fret.
Word.If you are progressing, I wouldn't worry.
Worrying will do nothing to solve the problem.
This stood out to me. You shouldn't compare your current circumstances to what your strength was when on Tren and not taking rec drugs and eating & sleeping poorly. Comparing today with that of your former self, I've concluded this so far:Yesterday was my end of my first week on injectable Dbol at 25 mg ED.
Also I started test E at 75 mg ED five weeks ago. I'd doubled it to 150 mg ED two and a half weeks ago.
I'm really not understanding how it is the same kind of training got me to 315 bench and 405 totally raw squat and 500+ no-belt pull with a much lower dose.
I have been on at least 500 mg test E for five weeks and I'm just now starting to see my weight increase! And I'm not nearly as strong as I was when I was playing around with tren.
I have tried upping my calories these last two day, but all that seems to do is land me in the bathroom a dozen times per day. Also I made the huge mistake of taking 0.2 mg of Prami in the morning. I ended up getting really, really nauseated and then had to take a long nap. I was already going to be late for work because of my stomach issues, but then the Prami made it so I just decided to take a full sick day.
I want to hop back on tren, but this has me worried. I am dubious about the liquid caber, which is the only form the sources about which I know offer.
Thanks! Makes sense. And tren is really effin magic.This stood out to me. You shouldn't compare your current circumstances to what your strength was when on Tren and not taking rec drugs and eating & sleeping poorly. Comparing today with that of your former self, I've concluded this so far:
BEFORE
You were taking arguably the strongest androgen in terms of strength and lean tissue gains
Your diet was supporting your lifting
Your sleep was supporting your lifting
AFTER
You aren't taking arguably the strongest androgen for strength and lean tissue growth
You just came out of a period of pitiful dieting and sleep
You likely are now starting off with 5-10lbs less muscle mass (or possibly more but I doubt it)
Of course you are weaker
Everything is ok. Tren should not be used as a comparison for the state of your body's vitality. It's not realistic. Yes, it is a real experience but no, it is not something maintainable unless you stay on it. I started Tren-E just 2-3 weeks ago and I've seen certain leg pressing movements climb 100-150lb each week. It's stupid strong and not practical in any sense.
Also, there are other places to get stuff like caber/prami. There are 2-3 really good pharmacies that ship without a hiccup if you know how to use MoneyGram properly.
My gf has said the same. Will talk to doc about it.Sounds like you are experiencing GI issues mate. Have you investigated this possibility?
Added dbol injectable 10 days ago, 25 mg ed.Your just taking test?
Just using it as a kickstarter. Swapping it out for tren in a few weeks.That will help with the heavy weight but only for a limited time right?
Unfortunately we can't run dbol longer than 5 weeks.
I can't even hang 4 weeks on dbol, but for 3 weeks im super strong.
Deca for me is so soothing on the joints.
And just in general a feel good injury healer.
Do you feel the EQ?Just using it as a kickstarter. Swapping it out for tren in a few weeks.
Also I forgot to mention that I'm taking EQ for collagen synthesis. It's been eight weeks and I'm going another eight.
Haven't tried deca yet. I think the EQ is starting to help. My knees have been problems for over ten years, before I started powerlifting. They are feeling better enough lately that I've started sprinting again.Do you feel the EQ?
Do you find it superior to Deca.
I added Deca to my cruise. Roughtly 150mg a week
Now I'm revving up for a blast.
Never did Deca before and it's so helpful
I powerlift so I'm going to do 600mg test and 600mg Deca.
Was shocked how bad a test alone cycle hurt me.
Could lift ****. Constantly in pain.
30%???Dbol made me lift 30% more weight. But the bloat and irritation was miserable.
I ve got to feel good first. I'm strong on the natch.
Its all about lubed joints.
If I don't hurt I can drive iron.
Yeah, dbol is in and out. I'm just using it so I can lift heavier weight while the test enanthate kicks in. Enanthate takes forever to kick in, but then strength keeps going weeks after the last injection.Yup 30% dbol makes me way strong way fast. But way miserable.
Everybody feels good on Tren so I'm very tempted.
I just want to see what I can get out of just test and Deca.
I wasted alot of time with just test. Dbol gains go just as fast as they come so it's really not worth me using it. I don't plan on competing its just for me.
I am back to:I wonder if that overactive thyroid is also hurting your weight gain as well.
Nick Best is ~50 I believe and he has a squat-based session Wednesday, presses Saturday and pulls Sunday. That to me seems like a pretty great way to go on a limited schedule. I train wed/fri/sun currently with my schedule, but that would be my next choice.
Are those records for a certain age group?Here are the USPA untested Classic Raw (belt and wraps) 40-44 state records for the 90-kilo class (198.2 lbs):
Squat 222. / 490.52
Bench 165 / 363.7
Deadlift 243 / 535.72
TOTAL 595 / 1311.74
I have already come close to the squat and deadlift, both without a belt. With a belt at my best in Nov 2016, I was good for 465 back squat and 520 deadlift. With a full cycle of tren and a good oral, I can't imagine not beating the records handily.
Bench is another story. My best paused bench would have been around 285 when my best touch and go was 320.
I've temporarily had squat and deadlift natty records in two other states. It's something I aim for when deciding to train for a meet.
Also I'm looking to get some straight DHT in the form of stanolone to try once more to get my libido firing again.
40-44. Of course Open is 150-200 lbs higher per lift.Are those records for a certain age group?
Gotcha40-44. Of course Open is 150-200 lbs higher per lift.
Yeah that's crazy!!By the way, flippin DAN GREEN is the Open record holder in this state for my fed in the next weight class up.
I'm in sac......must be same state as youBy the way, flippin DAN GREEN is the Open record holder in this state for my fed in the next weight class up.
Yup!I'm in sac......must be same state as you
Yeah, I'm going for broke and actually eager to shave as many years off my end years as I can. I'm counting on having a hell of a last solo party and ODing in my sixties!2.7 grams/wk plus orals is a lot of gear. And it's not a "cruise" for them; they're staying on blast. There's a difference. Also pretty sure almost nobody is taking 8.1 grams. I have heard of a couple nobodies taking 7+, but obviously it didn't make the difference in their success (just their life expectancy).
To put it in perspective, Brandon Allen (USPA superheavy) was very open about taking 5-5500mg/wk coming into comp, and both his coaches told him after some health issues that if he didn't pull back they wouldn't program him any more. He came off for a couple months then when he got back on he took exactly half of everything and was almost just as strong. He has since PR'd all his lifts.
I don't think 2.7 is crazy but I wouldn't downplay it either - that's a serious cycle.
In the 40-44 Masters.How old are you?
Rolling on oral trendione from OL these last 5.5 weeks. Up to 180mg/day (they say it has 20-30% conversion to true trenbolone). I have set lifetime PRs in every lift to comp standards the last 10 days and I'm still 2.5 weeks out from the meet. It is profound, and sex is only improved as well. I can't wait to pin the active some day. I feel awesome.No improvement on bench this week. 265 x 2 again. It was maybe a little easier than last time.
This is all pointless without tren. I have both esterlesa and enanthate on the way.
I agree. My delts are disgusting with acne.There was an old-school rule of a 1:1:1 ratio of test/mast/tren that a lot of strength athletes seemingly had good luck with. If I skewed that ratio any I would go with less Test and more Tren obviously, but I always thought it was an interesting baseline.
I WAS. I was fighting the e2 levels from 1000 mg per week. I stopped recently. BW tomorrow. Will see where my e2 is in six weeks and go from there.You're taking 25mg of exemestane daily for 240mg test p per week?? That's definitely not helping you gain. More AI always keeps me from gaining. I mean if you need it you'll know but if not you're shooting your joints and gainz in the foot.
How long are your microcycles?Got bloodwork results. My thyroid values are mostly mid-range, i.e. about perfect. Finally dialed in the perfect does of 12.5 mg methimazole per day.
TSH: 2.02 uIU/mL range 0.40 - 4.20 uIU/mL
T3, total: 86 ng/dL range 50 - 170 ng/dL
T4, free: 0.9 ng/dL range 0.8-1.7 ng/dL
And my 32 was the lowest I've ever seen it:
ESTRADIOL, ULTRASENSITIVE, LC MS/MS31 pg/mL range < OR = 29 pg/mL
I do think I crashed it with my 12.5 mg Exemestane 2 x/day. When I stopped for a few days, I started getting morning erections again. Those stopped after a couple of days, however. I started taking the Exemestane again, but just 12.5 mg e3.5d the day following my test-e shot.
I next am going to experiment with just the one 12.5 mg tab every day.
It's been two weeks since I upped my test-p dose from 120 mg e3.5d to 150 e3.5d. My weight is up five pounds in the past few days. It's clearly water weight. I have yet to see any strength increase. But I've been injured and I just peaked in my first microcycle leading up to meet in September. So my strength is a little depressed on the deadlift and I can't squat at all because of a groin pull. Also I have a tweak in my RC that makes benching painful past 245 or so.
It's all healing, but I'm five pounds heavier than I've been and I really want to see another 20 lbs on my bench and 30 lbs on my squat and deadlift before I gain any more weight.
Going to go bench tonight and hoping to get 235 for a few sets of 6-8. And I hope this adductor strain is healed enough to squat again on Sunday. I really don't want to take yet another week off from squatting.
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