I've read countless studies that talk about Cissus's joint healing abilities, but exactly how effective is it as an anabolic ? (noticibly that is).
i think that qualifies as a mega-dose.I noticed good fat loss on 6g/ day.
Ohh, what's that? :aargh:Ive been taking a gram a day of bulk 50% Cissus for about 8 days, and I'm starting to notice that "Cissus Pump", so its doing something.
what % extract?I noticed good fat loss on 6g/ day.
Its a good all around supp. you can't go wrong with, but you'll need about 5 grams a day of a 10% extract for the anabolic effect.Ohh, what's that? :aargh:
I just ordered some Super Cissus Rx for my dad, maybe I might take some too
I take one gram of the 50% extract from NP. (Very affordable)5 grams of the 5% extract ?
That's quite a bit. How noticable would the effects even be ?
Yeah..I think they're working on it again...to get it right this time.* reminds everyone of symmetry-x *
remember that product? wasn't that supposed to be the anabolic part of cissus extracted?
Are you serious?Pre-workout, Cissus gives me some aggression for my workout. I love the stuff except for the fact it makes my hair fall out faster.
You're not gonna try it now?Too many mixed opinions about it. I guess that idea is out the window.
only about the anabolic effects, as for analgesic relief most agree supercissus is #1. personally i haven't seen any anabolic effect from cissus, but then i have never used anywhere near 6 gms a day-don't think i would want to either. fenugreek seems a better option,imo.Too many mixed opinions about it. I guess that idea is out the window.
Cissus is supposedly non-hormonal and should not have hair loss sides...at least thats what a USP rep told me.Pre-workout, Cissus gives me some aggression for my workout. I love the stuff except for the fact it makes my hair fall out faster.
it wouldnt take 5-6 grams of a concentrated extract like Bulk Cissus from NP or PrimaForce....maybe 1 gram of the NP version or maybe 3 caps from Prima. We're only talking several grams if its a lesser 5-10% extract.No, I've used cissus by PrimaForce before. I was thinking about what dose would be needed for an anabolic effect as I have been taking 2 caps/ED. 1 in the morning, 1 at night.
if it takes 6g+ to get an anabolic effect (12 caps), I'll just use my regular 2 caps instead.
and NP has a regular one,and then one thats 50% extract for $30.it wouldnt take 5-6 grams of a concentrated extract like Bulk Cissus from NP or PrimaForce....maybe 1 gram of the NP version or maybe 3 caps from Prima. We're only talking several grams if its a lesser 5-10% extract.
yes, the 50% extract from NP is what I meant..apologies if I didn't make that clear.and NP has a regular one,and then one thats 50% extract for $30.
No problem man.I was just making it clear for reaperx.How are you taking it johnnie?Taste allright?yes, the 50% extract from NP is what I meant..apologies if I didn't make that clear.
it tastes eh....not so good...very bitter, but I wash it down with some diet ginseng Ice Tea. Its cheap enough at NP so I'll deal with it.No problem man.I was just making it clear for reaperx.How are you taking it johnnie?Taste allright?
hell yeah, thats a pretty sick dose for 50% Cissus...tell us how it works.Maybe I'll try 3 grams/ED of 50% extract bulk from nutra. That would be a good experiment. Not expecting anything insane, but I'm keeping an open mind.
Man, ever since you mentioned about Cissus and hair loss, my scalp has been itching like crazy! lol...however I did notice increased acne from it which is consistent with androgenic side effects..hmm....:sad:Pre-workout, Cissus gives me some aggression for my workout. I love the stuff except for the fact it makes my hair fall out faster.
Don't let the balding paranoia get you too!It already has half the members!The other half fit into gyno paranoia.You read it,then you notice it.I once had a person tell me she never buys aspirirn cause if you do,you'll get a headache!Man, ever since you mentioned about Cissus and hair loss, my scalp has been itching like crazy! lol...however I did notice increased acne from it which is consistent with androgenic side effects..hmm....:sad:
Haha....so true bro.Don't let the balding paranoia get you too!It already has half the members!The other half fit into gyno paranoia.You read it,then you notice it.I once had a person tell me she never buys aspirirn cause if you do,you'll get a headache!
Haha....so true bro.
The supplement game can be quite a fiasco...lots of products with no real funding to do complete studies so lots of effects we don't know without trial and error, then if even 1 person notices a side effect(good or bad) then the rest of us hop on to find out more.
Yep...if Cissus does all that then its a great all around supp...however if its a test booster than it has an effect on the hpta system, and the question needs to be asked "should it be cycled".I agree. With something like bulk cissus and a relatively low cost, some experiments are worthwhile doing.
I don't mind dosing cissus high since it already helps my joints anyway. If it is anabolic, awesome, if not, it still helps with joint issues so it is a win-win situation.
If it mimics estrogen, it may have SERM like properties also.
These results show that serum testosterone levels were increased nearly 4 times over the levels at the beginning of the study. The largest increase in testosterone occurred in the first 30 days of this study."
so...take that for what its worth.
Ok thanks for the thread mister reaperx.
It's got me wanting to try new things, so...
I'll up my supercissusRx bulk dose to about 4 or so grams a day until it runs out, and then I'll start up on primaforce cissus and will dose that depending on how the higher dose bulk stuff went.. Boo yah, I shall update.
That would normally be my logic, but the bulk cissus I've got at the moment isn't really and hasn't really been providing much relief, so in this case I'll go ahead and dose it higher and see what happens.I'm just going to buy bulk nutra 50% extract.
I wouldn't waste the 5%-10% on trying to get 'anabolic'. Just keep that for theraputic uses and go hard on a higher extract.
ReaperX,
If you buy the bulk 50% cissus, put it inside one of those large resealable bags. If you don't after a couple or three weeks humidity will clump the remainder of your powder up into a big ball of hard gunk.
I dont know what it does, but last year I stopped all supps for a while except cissus and creatine and made excellent gains.
I was using cissus pre-workout then. Does not seem to produce the same anabolic effects when used nighttime/morning.