ZOO Goes to Rehab: Injury and Recomp (pg.4)

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I see you use 2 different types of salt, going back between the pink and ionized..what decides which one you use for each meal?
Tbh I don't think there would be any difference if I just used all Iodized salt but the Pink Salt is recommended in the Vertical program around training periods (pre/postworkout meals) since it is a more pure source of sodium, which is an important aspect of performance, recovery, etc. However, iodine is important component of the diet for metabolic and immune system purposes so I use basic iodized salt for my other meals. Like I said though, I doubt there would be a discernible difference if you used all regular table salt.
 
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LOG UPDATE: 1/2 September 2019

I'm combining my log update for yesterday with today since I am taking today off from the gym as previously planned. My workout for Sunday ended up turning into a mini-leg day by the end of it but I like to be in the gym training and only doing hamstrings and calves feels insufficient. Today is going to be very chill though because I desperately need the recovery. I'll be maintaining brief walks, standing steps, pump sets, etc. throughout the day to keep blood moving and food digesting. I'm really praying that my arm is painless on bench tomorrow so lets see how much I can heal with an active recovery day.

Below is yesterdays layout. Today I will eat 3 beef/potato dishes and 2 egg/blueberry/potato dishes with a shake before bed.

NUTRITION/SCHEDULE/TIMING
- 7:00am: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg, GH: 3.3iu

Fasted Cardio: 20 minute walk

Meal 1 (9:00am): 10 minute walk
9oz Beef (96%), 13oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Nektar, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 2 (11:30am): Pre-workout
6 x Whole Eggs, 300g Egg Whites, 13oz Potato, 160g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 1 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew]

Pre-workout: Demon Drops 1 caps, Special Forces 3 caps
Intra-workout: 4oz Pure OJ, 10g BCAAs, Powerade Zero Sugar

GYM SESSION: Hamstrings/Calves (Quad Ancillary)
- Lying Leg Curl: 4 sets of 8 reps
- Lying Single Leg Curl: 4 sets of 10 reps
- Seated Leg Curl: 4 sets of 10 reps
- Seated Single Leg Curl: 4 sets of 12 reps

- Inner Thing Machine: 3 sets of 15 reps
- Outer Thigh Machine: 3 sets of 15 reps

- Horizontal Leg Press: 3 sets of 20 reps
- Leg Extensions: 3 sets of 20 reps

- Standing Calf Raise: 3 sets of 8-10 reps
- Seated Calf Raise: 3 sets of 12-15 reps
- Seated Calf Press: 3 sets of 15-20 reps

Superset: 3 sets of 20 reps
- Upward Cable Fly
- Downward Cable Fly

Meal 3 (2:30pm): Immediately after training
50g Isolate Shake
[Swolly, Overtraining Solution]

Meal 4 (3:15pm): Post-workout
50g Isolate, 80g Oatmeal, 280g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 3/4 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Creatine]

Meal 5 (4:30pm):
MOTHERFUCKING BISON BURGERS... again :)
[Wrecking Crew]

- 7:00pm: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg


Meal 6 (8:00pm): Pump Sets/Standing Steps
9oz Beef (96%), 14oz Potato, 70g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 7 (10:00pm):
50g Isolate Shake
[KSM-66 (Blight) 600mg, Mwendo]

- 11:00pm: GH: 3.3iu
 
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i liked to do 1 day of legs for quad dominance and 1 day for hammy focus.. but that still would include total leg work during both sessions.
 
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What is the thinking with the cocoa post workout meal? More magnesium and antioxidants? Just curious as I eat raw cocoa nibs from time to time as pure cocoa is very healthy but never really time it per se.
 
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LOG UPDATE: 3 September 2019

Weight: Did not weigh in.

Chest workout today was really good all things considered. There is still fair discomfort in my arm/elbow area, however, it has subsided enough to where it was not much, if any, hinderance to my benching today. I even tossed in some incline dumbbell presses at the end after burning out. I was very cautious with these since the upward motion has been an issue.

Last week I felt I really had to work around my arm, but I was more able to utilize it in a normal capacity today. The workout itself felt very strong. While the numbers may not be jumping up or anything crazy, my form, muscle connection, and strength through the movement is really really on point right now. Arm is a little roughed up right now. Not bad. Just a little sore and tight, but nothing alarming or to indicate further injury or harm.

NUTRITION/SCHEDULE/TIMING
- 8:00am: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg, GH: 3.3iu

Fasted Cardio: Sub Grocery shopping + Meal prep

Meal 1 (9:30am): 10 minute walk
9oz Beef (96%), 13oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Nektar, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 2 (12:00am): Pre-workout
6 x Whole Eggs, 300g Egg Whites, 13oz Potato, 160g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 1 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew]

Pre-workout: Special Forces 3 caps, Demon Drops 1 cap
Intra-workout: 4oz Pure OJ, 10g BCAAs, Powerade Zero Sugar

GYM SESSION: Chest
Flat Bench
- Warm Up: 45x10, 135x8, 225x6, 315x2 (paused at the bottom)
- 365 x 5
- 385 x 2
- 365 x 4
- 335 x 7
- 315 x 7
- 315 x 6 (drop to 225)
- 225 x 11

- Seated Upward Cable Fly (8): 4 sets of 8-10 reps
- Seated Downward Cable Fly (8): 4 sets of 8-10 reps
- Angled Pec Dec: 4 sets of 10-12 reps
- Incline Dumbbell Press (75) 4 sets of 10-12
- Farmers Walk: 2 sets of 3 laps

Meal 3 (2:45pm): Immediately after training
50g Isolate Shake
[Swolly, Overtraining Solution]

Meal 4 (3:30pm): Post-workout
50g Isolate, 80g Oatmeal, 300g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 3/4 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Creatine]

Meal 5 (4:30pm): 10 minutes standing steps
9oz Beef (96%), 14oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Fiberlyze]

- 7:00pm: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg


Meal 6 (8:00pm):
9oz Beef (96%), 14oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 7 (10:00pm):
50g Isolate Shake
[KSM-66 (Blight) 600mg, Mwendo]

- 11:00pm: GH: 3.3iu
 
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i liked to do 1 day of legs for quad dominance and 1 day for hammy focus.. but that still would include total leg work during both sessions.
That's what's up.

What is the thinking with the cocoa post workout meal? More magnesium and antioxidants? Just curious as I eat raw cocoa nibs from time to time as pure cocoa is very healthy but never really time it per se.
Honestly, it's mostly just for flavor hahaha. I combine it with a little truvia to make a richer chocolate flavor. But it does have positive health benefits and nutrients as you mentioned.
 
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LOG UPDATE: 4 September 2019

Weight: Did not weigh in.

Arm isn't too bad today. Just a little stiff. It seems to be feeling better as the day carries on though. Back workout today was really good. All the movements feel very strong and my control of the weight is absolutely on point. Was able to up the poundage on a couple exercises even. Since my elbow is all jacked I decided to go ahead and just start training biceps at the end of my back workout for the time being. Once my arm feels better I'll add triceps to chest day.

NUTRITION/SCHEDULE/TIMING
- 8:00am: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg, GH: 3.3iu

Fasted Cardio: 20 minutes fast paced walk

Meal 1 (9:30am): 10 minute walk
9oz Beef (96%), 14oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Nektar, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 2 (12:00am): Pre-workout
6 x Whole Eggs, 300g Egg Whites, 14oz Potato, 160g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 1 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew]

Pre-workout: Special Forces 3 caps, Demon Drops 1 cap
Intra-workout: 4oz Pure OJ, 10g BCAAs, Powerade Zero Sugar

GYM SESSION: Back
- Barbell Rows
--- 365 x 10
--- 385 x 6
--- 385 x 6
--- 365 x 9

- Wide Grip Pulldown: 4 sets of 8-10 reps
- Cable Low Row: 4 sets of 8-10 reps (close grip)
- Dumbbell Rows (120): 9, 9, 9
- Yates Row (275): 8, 7, 8
- Yates Row (225): 11, 11, 12

- Standing Cable Curls (66): 3 sets of 10-12 reps
- EZ Barbell Curl (80): 3 sets of 8-10 reps
- Single Arm DB Curls: 3 sets of 8-10 reps
- Standing Cable Curls (50): 3 sets of 10-12 reps, 1 drop set (close grip)

Meal 3 (3:00pm): Immediately after training
50g Isolate Shake
[Swolly, Overtraining Solution]

Meal 4 (3:30pm): Post-workout
50g Isolate, 80g Oatmeal, 280g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 3/4 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Creatine]

Meal 5 (4:45pm):
9oz Beef (96%), 14oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew]

- 7:00pm: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg


Meal 6 (8:00pm):
9oz Beef (96%), 14oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 7 (10:00pm):
50g Isolate Shake
[KSM-66 (Blight) 600mg, Mwendo]

- 11:00pm: GH: 3.3iu
 
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LOG UPDATE: 5 September 2019

Weight: 248.8 lbs

Starting to see some really good progress with leg training. Managed to hit my goal of 405 for 5 under the squat bar. I'm going to spend the next few weeks locking down form and strength with this weight so I can effectively use it for working sets of 6-8 solid ass reps. I may incorporate some higher weight with 1rm here and there to help acclimate my body for 405. It's nothing to boast about but I'm happy with the direction things are going.

- Uploaded vid of my opening set of 405 on my IG: @zoofoodz
- Progress pic of fasted weight attached.

NUTRITION/SCHEDULE/TIMING
- 8:00am: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg, GH: 3.3iu

Fasted Cardio: 30 minutes fast paced walk

Meal 1 (9:30am): 10 minute walk
9oz Beef (96%), 14oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Nektar, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 2 (12:00am): Pre-workout
6 x Whole Eggs, 300g Egg Whites, 14oz Potato, 170g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 1 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew]

Pre-workout: Demon Drops 2 caps, Special Forces 3 caps
Intra-workout: 5oz Pure OJ, 10g BCAAs, Powerade Zero Sugar

GYM SESSION: Legs (Squats/Quads)
Squat
Warmups sets: 135x8, 225x6, 315x4, 365x2
405: 5, 3, 2 (almost fell backwards on my second set walking the weight out... I need new shoes for sure)
365: 5, 4, 4
315: 6, 6, 6

Leg Press
7 Plates: 11, 9, 8
6 Plates: 14, 10, 11
5 Plates: 16, 13, 12

Leg Extensions
6 sets of 8-20 reps

Meal 3 (3:15pm): Immediately after training
50g Isolate Shake
[Swolly, Overtraining Solution]

Meal 4 (4:00pm): Post-workout
50g Isolate, 80g Oatmeal, 280g Blueberries, 10g Cacao (100%), 3/4 tsp. Pink Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Creatine]

Meal 5 (5:30pm): Standing steps
9oz Beef (96%), 15oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew]

- 7:30pm: T2 (Ember) 300mcg, T3 12.5mcg, T4 50mcg, Dianabol 50mg, Anadrol 50mg, Proviron 50mg


Meal 6 (8:00pm):
9oz Beef (96%), 15oz Potato, 60g Carrots, Shredded Lettuce, 1 tsp. Iodized Salt
[Wrecking Crew, Fish Oil, Vitamin D 5,000iu]

Meal 7 (10:00pm):
50g Isolate Shake
[KSM-66 (Blight) 600mg, Mwendo]

- 11:00pm: GH: 3.3iu
 

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holy chit!!!! bro is faulken swole~
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man you are looking MASSIVE with all that post-show food! Still really lean too which is even better
 
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Thanks, guys! No lie I am kind of surprised to see I'm not a lot worse looking lol. Even though I largely eat quite clean, I thought the sheer calories would have me much fatter haha.
 
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Nice work on the 405 and now following you on IG @ZOO
 
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Carrying that extra weight nicely !!
 
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Good morning more I read about this the more I feel like you may have some spasming in your forearm which is causing the pain in your elbow because sure enough after I take a week off my pain went away and now if I feel it coming back I get some Epsom lotion from CVS and massage it in there real good play an ice pack underneath my elbow when I lay down in the evening. Just a little and just for the hell of it. Congrats to hear your about on you success!
 
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Carrying that extra weight nicely !!
Appreciate that, Rocket!

Good morning more I read about this the more I feel like you may have some spasming in your forearm which is causing the pain in your elbow because sure enough after I take a week off my pain went away and now if I feel it coming back I get some Epsom lotion from CVS and massage it in there real good play an ice pack underneath my elbow when I lay down in the evening. Just a little and just for the hell of it. Congrats to hear your about on you success!
Thanks for chiming in, bro! It's nice to have input from others with firsthand experience. I'm pulling off the gas a little this week to let it heal completely. I want my old arm back haha

Are still steady at 1500/600 for oils?
Yep! Might be my new "cruise" dose haha ;) #notsureifsrs

Looking great!
Thanks, Thor!
 
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LOG UPDATE: 8 September 2019

Sorry for being sparse on the log the past couple of days. Been messing with getting Corpse Candy (DMZ) and Dark Delights (MSTEN) ready. They're both available on viciouslabs.net now.

I'll spare the typical update of my daily schedule for eating and training. This week I'll be easing off the throttle some in order to let my arm heal finally. It's been dragging on far too long and as much as I want to train hard as hail all the time, it's only going to hinder me long term. Frankly, this is a good time to do this because my body is feeling pretty beat up. Even with all the steroids and good food you're bound to hit a point where additional rest is needed.

I'll be taking it day by day as far as training goes. I may throw in an additional off day. I won't be making typical updates until next week but I'll check in with comments about how things are going. In general though this is a quick rundown:
- Yesterday was an off day.
- Today I combined rack pulls with hamstrings rather than breaking them into two separate workouts. This will also give me an extra day for my legs to recovery before hitting squats.
- Tomorrow is chest with calves. I will not be doing bench or dumbbell presses as this ended up setting me back a few days last week. Rather, I'll do a medley of cable and pec dec fly movements.
- Tuesday will be back and biceps.
- Wednesday I may either make an off day, but if I train, I'll train shoulders. No overhead pressing movements.
- Thursday... SKWAAAAAAATS
- Friday... shoulders if I don't train them on Wednesday.

Edit: Oh yeah, I had motherfucking bison burgers yesterday and again in about 30 minutes of typing this. For reference, each of those meals comes to about 12oz of bison and 80g carbs in buns. That's why I like to eat them on days like today where I did heavy rack pulls plus a lot of additional volume work.
 
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LOG UPDATE: 11 September 2019

Weight: 243.8 lbs

Just wanted to stop in and touch base with everyone on how things are going. My arm is still being a pain in the ass so I decided to take today off from the gym. Again, my body is probably in dire need of the rest anyway. It's still a bit of a concern but I am hoping that it will subside entirely by the end of next week.

An interesting thing to note is the sudden drop in weight. I haven't altered my diet any and have been plenty heavy on the potatoes as you guys have seen in my food logs. Drugs are also unchanged. The only difference I can think of is that I have not been using as many booster/cheat meals (ie substituting an extra egg dish in place of a beef meal, which is a lot less calories than the egg scrambler) and really just sticking to my normal food regiment.

This week I will be wrapping up the Dbol and Anadrol, but will maintain my oils at 1500/600. I'll maintain this until my arm heals to help solidify my gains and keep making incremental progress where I can. Once the elbow and **** is fixed up I'll probably hit it hard again. GH will also be kept in at 6.6iu if not just to help with healing lol
 
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take a butter knife handle to that feker.. srs.

grab an KKKNife upside dwon and run it up and down the arm where it hurts.. you need to break up the scar tissue that building up around the elbow.. if you dig in with a butter knife handle and it feels all grainy and gravely, you will need to work on it every chance you get as well you might look into rock tape to tape it up for lifting. it really helps with tendonitis.
 
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take a butter knife handle to that feker.. srs.

grab an KKKNife upside dwon and run it up and down the arm where it hurts.. you need to break up the scar tissue that building up around the elbow.. if you dig in with a butter knife handle and it feels all grainy and gravely, you will need to work on it every chance you get as well you might look into rock tape to tape it up for lifting. it really helps with tendonitis.
Thanks, bro! Yeah I've been trying to give it extra care and love. Got myself some new, tighter elbow sleeves too haha. I'll have to mess with your idea there to see if that can't relieve it as well. **** sucks bad and kind of fucked up my cycle here :(
 
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Ever play with any body tempering? I’ve been putting the boomstick to work pretty hard the past year and it’s nothing short of amazing. Also awesome and easy for the girl to use on you with great results.
 
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Ever play with any body tempering? I’ve been putting the boomstick to work pretty hard the past year and it’s nothing short of amazing. Also awesome and easy for the girl to use on you with great results.
I never heard of it but will have to research it. I hope it's something I can do on myself because I don't have anyone around to do it on me haha
 
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I never heard of it but will have to research it. I hope it's something I can do on myself because I don't have anyone around to do it on me haha
Kabuki boomstick. Tons you can do by yourself. It’s a great tool to have.
 
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Kabuki boomstick. Tons you can do by yourself. It’s a great tool to have.
Ohhhh yes. I remember Stan talking about this with Duffin!
 
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LOG UPDATE: 16 September 2019

Weight: 245.8 lbs

Update drop, fellas! I'll list it out for ease of review:

- Yesterday was my last day on Anadrol 100mg and Dbol 100mg. I will maintain oils at 1500mg Test Iso and 600mg NPP for the next couple of weeks before reevaluating my cycle. I'm a little relieved to come off the orals. It'll be nice not to have a balloon head haha.

- I'll be tightening up my diet just a smidge; keep potatoes at 13oz and blueberries at 140g. I would like to maintain around 240 lbs and really grow into that weight so I'm not going to go crazy on cutting back. Surprisingly, I was on the lighter side again today so my calories need to stay similar in order to maintain this weight. Coming off the orals there will likely be a drop in wet weight, but not sure what amount that will be.

- Today is the best my arm has been. Training chest I hit cable fly and pec dec first but then went over and hit a chest press machine. Weight was kept moderate, of course. At this rate of progression I should be able to do pressing movements (bench press, shoulder press, etc) by next week. More than likely I will do other exercises before these to burnout some and use lighter weights with those movements. Not sure when I'll be able to do direct tricep work normally. I have not done anything for them since the injury. I've been trying tricep extensions with no weight and its touch and go. Today seemed much better so perhaps next week I can do light weight cable exercises to get them stimulated.

- Having gone through this injury I am opting for a new training approach. I am no Ronnie Coleman so training 6-8 times per week likely isn't working well for me and probably what led to me being prone to getting hurt. I now will be training 5 days per week - off days being Wed. and Sat. Also, I will be adjusting my arm training approach. Obviously what I have been doing hasn't led to much progress so instead of having a dedicated arm day I will tack on triceps with chest, biceps with back, and I will do a small pump workout for both bis/tris at the end of my shoulder day (Friday).
 

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Glad things are going good for you, The "Balloon Head" thing is that because of B.P. ?
 
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Glad things are going good for you, The "Balloon Head" thing is that because of B.P. ?
and water retention... also referred to as moon face
 
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WOW you are looking absolutely massive compared to your show... like double size ha (and all in a good way - rock solid)
 
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Fucking stacked dude!!!!
Thank you, JV!!!

Glad things are going good for you, The "Balloon Head" thing is that because of B.P. ?
and water retention... also referred to as moon face
I'm sure I had slightly elevated BP but its from the water retention of Dbol and Anadrol combo like Ripper was saying. Especially in conjunction with the high test and nandrolone. It really is one heck of a wet cycle. Tbh I think it can be largely attributed to the Dbol. This stuff has a methyl-estradiol conversion iirc which can be brutal in puffing your face and body up.

WOW you are looking absolutely massive compared to your show... like double size ha (and all in a good way - rock solid)
haha thanks boone! Yeah I definitely want to grow but doing it like a fatty has had me spinning my wheels for years. Time to make serious progress this go around :)
 
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LOG UPDATE: 19 September 2019

Weight: 241.0 lbs

Well as was expected, I am dropping some weight. I do not mind the we as it is all water right now and the feeling of bloat (along with my moon face) is dissipating. Must have pissed like 6 times last night. I attached a couple of pics and I appear to be a little less soft. Although, I did feel slightly flat this morning. This, however, I think is more to do with my atrocious sleep lately. If I am managing 6 hours in total I'd be amazed haha. Hard to say if this is because of high androgens or personal stress related issues.

Overall, I have to say that despite being unable to bench/incline, shoulder press, or effectively train arms (no direct tricep work at all), that I still made some good progress. It hurts a bit knowing I could have made substantially greater gains had the injury not occurred, but I am really happy it wasn't worse than it was and my arm is doing much much better. I have been dabbling with 10 lb dumbbell kickbacks to get my triceps stimulated again.

A highlight lift this week was getting 605 for 6 on rack pulls. I believe 7 or 8 reps were possible but I was not willing to risk my back or straining my arm more. If I blew my back out again (last years big injury) I would probably take a quick ride down off the top of a high building lol. Another cool one was barbell rows with 385 for 7. Form I feel is pretty dang solid. I'm not heaving or swinging it up and I have been able to isolate back contractions with that weight. If not out of necessity to prevent aggravation of the elbow.

Today is legs. My left knee is a bit or miss right now, but it didn't stop my squats last week so shouldn't be an issue this week either. If necessary I will pre-exhaust the legs and do squats with lighter weight. Also, I upped my potato for the day to 14 oz. I know, I'm a fucking daredevil lol.
 

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gonna have to change your username to "tatergainZoo" haha
 
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If agree, you do look leaner, but I dont see this "flatter" bit you mention. Maybe it's something you didnt capture in pictures, maybe youre being modest/hard on yourself.

And yeah man **** sucks about your arm but your best is the best you got. You've been busting ass, moving heavy ****, and getting paid for passion (in a nohomo way). Youre fugn doin it my man.
 
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gonna have to change your username to "tatergainZoo" haha
Lol! Simply “tater” would work too!
Hahaha I'm going to put potatoes on the map man. It's all about that potato pump :D

If agree, you do look leaner, but I dont see this "flatter" bit you mention. Maybe it's something you didnt capture in pictures, maybe youre being modest/hard on yourself.

And yeah man **** sucks about your arm but your best is the best you got. You've been busting ass, moving heavy ****, and getting paid for passion (in a nohomo way). Youre fugn doin it my man.
I bet it is more psychological than anything else. I just don't feel as "big" and "full" not having been able to get in all those exercises I like.
 
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Log isn't dead yet, fellas. Just been dealing with a lot of BS as far as getting payment processing for VL and GB. Got something pretty good in place for the moment so log updates should resume soon.

I'll post up my new protocol, physique objective, and arm update (hint: still fucked up)
 
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God almighty when i f*cked my elbow tendon up i thought i was DONE, man. But I'm able to work at like 90% efficiency im guessing (i can still twist wrong and have a bad day). You sound positive, man, don't let it get you down and work twice as hard on the sh*t that's not jacked up.

PS I love the use of "SMASH" you're a gear man after my own heart lol....
 
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God almighty when i f*cked my elbow tendon up i thought i was DONE, man. But I'm able to work at like 90% efficiency im guessing (i can still twist wrong and have a bad day). You sound positive, man, don't let it get you down and work twice as hard on the sh*t that's not jacked up.

PS I love the use of "SMASH" you're a gear man after my own heart lol....
Dude for real! If I rotate my arm a certain way, extend, or press wrong, its a mess... like you said though just gotta apply myself everywhere else twice as hard. Figure I'll use the time to recomp and really own this 245-250 weight. Wouldn't mind being lean here haha. Appreciate you jumping in here to share that. Makes me feel better. Especially today, which was chest, because it is depressing not benching anymore.

Haha I love my gear too, bro. You'll have to drop some of your cycles!
 
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Dude for real! If I rotate my arm a certain way, extend, or press wrong, its a mess... like you said though just gotta apply myself everywhere else twice as hard. Figure I'll use the time to recomp and really own this 245-250 weight. Wouldn't mind being lean here haha. Appreciate you jumping in here to share that. Makes me feel better. Especially today, which was chest, because it is depressing not benching anymore.

Haha I love my gear too, bro. You'll have to drop some of your cycles!
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Add Tren as needed til your first road rage incident, or you falsely accuse your GF of cheating 😆😆😆

NEWBZ DO NOT DO THIS! It's kind of a joke, only it's not. Actually that one was only a month or so til I dialed it down cuz of acne more than anything.

I'll try to remember some of my more successful runs, man. But that one sure felt great lol
 
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Well, a simpler one.....

2 GRAMS TEST/WK
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Add Tren as needed til your first road rage incident, or you falsely accuse your GF of cheating 😆😆😆

NEWBZ DO NOT DO THIS! It's kind of a joke, only it's not. Actually that one was only a month or so til I dialed it down cuz of acne more than anything.

I'll try to remember some of my more successful runs, man. But that one sure felt great lol
I like this guy! Welcome haha
 

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Well, a simpler one.....

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Add Tren as needed til your first road rage incident, or you falsely accuse your GF of cheating 😆😆😆

NEWBZ DO NOT DO THIS! It's kind of a joke, only it's not. Actually that one was only a month or so til I dialed it down cuz of acne more than anything.

I'll try to remember some of my more successful runs, man. But that one sure felt great lol
Only counts if she’s not really cheating. If she is up dose of tren
 
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Only counts if she’s not really cheating. If she is up dose of tren
And I ALWAYS recommend running Tren Enanthate, so that once you reach that sweet spot of sweaty, paranoid, homicidal lunacy, you won't be able to puss out like those Ace fans. Nothing like a week in crazytown, boys!
 
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Haha you guys are a hoot and a holler. I think I just about have my “rehab and recomposition” plan in place. Been using the last 2 weeks to really work things out and build a program to work around my injury while still progressing. If I’m not a total lazy ass I’ll get it up today... which shouldn’t be difficult because I take Cialis lol
 

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