"YOU WANTED THE BEST, YOU'VE GOT THE BEST, REVERSITOL REGULATOR V2!!!

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Now THAT is what I'd like to see. I'd never use Rev as my PCT but that's my opinion

yes, but come on-they have to have something to base those claims on-i hope!:dunno:
seriously those graphs look like they came from a muscle tech ad.
 
With no reps really over here it's not as easy to get answers on that, not so much they are ignoring it. I'll ask one of the reps on another board
 
With no reps really over here it's not as easy to get answers on that, not so much they are ignoring it. I'll ask one of the reps on another board

thanks, i liked the original very much. but the claims they are making with the new version needs to be backed up by something? :dunno:
 
The claims we're made were made based off publicly posted scientific data. We only referenced KI values.


Please realize what marketing is. It is necessary to sell a product. The marketing we use is 100% backed by science.


The new Rv2 is by far an improved version IMO. It will outperform Rv1 in every user IMO

are there any tester logs? i need to get an ai soon but am not yet convinced.
 
are there any tester logs? i need to get an ai soon but am not yet convinced.

quick question/s-

since when is 7-methoxy used as an AI?

Isn't it for nitrogen retention?

PP's phytotest has 7-methoxy in the formula and it's not advertised as an AI. Is it a newer form that i'm not familiar with?
 
Alright, it's finally time for some clarity!

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This assay was provided to me directly from IForce.
 
ok, so they have real 3,3, great. but how much of it do they really put in their caps.

an analysis of a cap taken out of a bottle is needed at this point to know how much of it is in it.

other than than anyone can send pure 3,3 to a lab for inspection, it has nothing to do with quantity in their pills.

that report is meaningless to me.
 
lets get back on topic-reversitol, did i-force do clinical tests of reversitol on humans with before and after bloodwork? or did they just put together some ingredients that on paper are supposed to do the things they claim.:dunno:
 
i would give up on them bigt and just stick to what is proven to really work.
 
i would give up on them bigt and just stick to what is proven to really work.

my intent here is not to discredit i-force, i merely want to see the basis for the claims. i just want to see the tests they base this on.:dunno:
 
Bigt

Look at a thread I posted in the nutra thread called TT-33 all the proof you need is posted towards/at the end by nutraplanet CS. it was tested by two independent third party companies. it answers the exact question you are asking.
 
Bigt

Look at a thread I posted in the nutra thread called TT-33 all the proof you need is posted towards/at the end by nutraplanet CS. it was tested by two independent third party companies. it answers the exact question you are asking.

this thread is supposed to be about reversitol v2, that is what you are talking about, right?:dunno: i could care less about tt-33.
 
man i can't believe im reading all the drama... thats why i dont post on BB...

bottom line folks: the information has been presented. take it or leave it. it's up to you..

i mean, some of these guys wouldnt be satisfied with a pic of iForce's CEO holding the proof written in blood, while wearing a bunny suit, holding a spatula and riding a unicycle.

sorry... i haven't eaten...
 
man i can't believe im reading all the drama... thats why i dont post on BB...

bottom line folks: the information has been presented. take it or leave it. it's up to you..

i mean, some of these guys wouldnt be satisfied with a pic of iForce's CEO holding the proof written in blood, while wearing a bunny suit, holding a spatula and riding a unicycle.

sorry... i haven't eaten...

look at the name of the thread. :dunno:
all i am asking for is results of blood tests on reversitol that were taken prior to it's release. i don't understand why this should be a problem?
 
I think you are beating a dead horse BigT...
 
yeah, won't be a product i buy.

7-methoxy as part of a "S.E.R.M. Matrix" ? :nervous:

The SERM matrix was on Rv1 too I think. And didn't they post some files showing that the ellagic acid was considered a serm in studies?

you guys are too hung up on blood tests. ive never seen a company release blood tests prior to the release of a product. i already bought a bottle. cant wait to use it.
 
I think bigt is 100% valid in his questions, especially with the way it is advertised with a graph. And just because companies don't doesn't mean they shouldn't.
 
I think bigt is 100% valid in his questions, especially with the way it is advertised with a graph. And just because companies don't doesn't mean they shouldn't.

VT told me the graph correlates only to Ki values of the compounds. They didn't actually compare all of them with blood work.
 
I think bigt is 100% valid in his questions, especially with the way it is advertised with a graph. And just because companies don't doesn't mean they shouldn't.

Agree 100% here. It would go a long way towards bringing more validity to this business.
 
Grambo, i can see where you and BigT are going with that... i shouldnt have posted on this thread when i dont have all the facts anyways..

my bad.

carry on :)
 
what are the ingredients in that?

I believe it is actually a single ingredient. It is still pretty hush hush besides some of the info being given (check out the thread called like "Best Nutrient RePartitioner" or something and the other rep posted some info. ). We are really trying to take a scientific approach to formulating products instead of just doing the same old thing.
 
The SERM matrix was on Rv1 too I think. And didn't they post some files showing that the ellagic acid was considered a serm in studies?

you guys are too hung up on blood tests. ive never seen a company release blood tests prior to the release of a product. i already bought a bottle. cant wait to use it.

anti-aromatase products are different than other products. when you buy a ai you want to be assured it will do what it claims-mainly raise test, reduce estrogen. you can really screw yourself up if you think you have that covered and it turns out the product you are using is bunk. most ai products have been using tried and true ingredients, so when a company comes out with a product using 'new' ingredients and making claims such as those on the graph, you would think they would have done tests to assure it will do what they 'say' it will. i really truly honestly don't think that is too much to ask.:dunno:
 
believe me guys, you really don't want to take chances with an ai.
 
a methylated flavone is supposed to have good bioavailability...and if the AI strength is indeed as purported, then it'll be awesome

we need to see some bloods on this for sure...
 
a methylated flavone is supposed to have good bioavailability...and if the AI strength is indeed as purported, then it'll be awesome

we need to see some bloods on this for sure...

exactly, i agree the potential is there, but surely they tested the effectiveness before they put it on the market-i hope they did anyways. but if they did why are they not posting the results????????? i just can't figure out why they won't post those test results????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
Maybe my thinking is too simple, but the original wasn't changed because of some great new discovery, it was pulled because of all the new BS from the FDA. So the original tried and true ingredients were altered due to potential legal issues and replaced with suspect and unproven ones........ kinda looks similar to all the new 'safe', 'legal', 'natural' prohormones that come on the market following every new FDA ban/crackdown.
 
Maybe my thinking is too simple, but the original wasn't changed because of some great new discovery, it was pulled because of all the new BS from the FDA. So the original tried and true ingredients were altered due to potential legal issues and replaced with suspect and unproven ones........ kinda looks similar to all the new 'safe', 'legal', 'natural' prohormones that come on the market following every new FDA ban/crackdown.

this is exactly why i am asking for blood tests to prove what they are claiming with this 'new' formula. i can't believe they would put this product up for sale without first testing it's effectiveness. geez!
 
We have tested it. That's why it was released. Our in house testing was phenominal, as is the SCIENCE that proves this ingredient beyond any doubt.


No one believed us on rv1, few believe us now...it'll be proven all over again. :)


Are there logs to follow for the proof?
 
This version has:

Estrogen Modulation Matrix(EMM):
Indole-3-Carbinole, Long Jack(100:1), Trans Resveratrol 160 mg


and the other version of Reversitol has more Resveratrol?

S.E.R.M. Matrix 500 mg
Trans-Resveratrol
Eurycoma Longifolia
 
Hmmm, looks as if some ask very valid questions with NO answer from the ones with the "proof." I wonder, though, how many times has this happen over the years? ;)
If you're going to make a claim, you better have the damn proof. If not, at least get all your ass-kissing fanboys to vouch for you... that's company policy, right?

iForce = Crap.
 
Hmmm, looks as if some ask very valid questions with NO answer from the ones with the "proof." I wonder, though, how many times has this happen over the years? ;)
If you're going to make a claim, you better have the damn proof. If not, at least get all your ass-kissing fanboys to vouch for you... that's company policy, right?

iForce = Crap.


I don`t think is crap
 
Doing my best to get an Iforce forum here. There will be plenty here after that.




why do you have to have a forum here in order to post test results: either you have them or you don't.:dunno:
 
why do you have to have a forum here in order to post test results: either you have them or you don't.:dunno:

Can a company promote their products without one on here?



MOD EDIT: No.
 
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