thebigt
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Now THAT is what I'd like to see. I'd never use Rev as my PCT but that's my opinion
yes, but come on-they have to have something to base those claims on-i hope!:dunno:
seriously those graphs look like they came from a muscle tech ad.
Now THAT is what I'd like to see. I'd never use Rev as my PCT but that's my opinion
With no reps really over here it's not as easy to get answers on that, not so much they are ignoring it. I'll ask one of the reps on another board
The claims we're made were made based off publicly posted scientific data. We only referenced KI values.
Please realize what marketing is. It is necessary to sell a product. The marketing we use is 100% backed by science.
The new Rv2 is by far an improved version IMO. It will outperform Rv1 in every user IMO
are there any tester logs? i need to get an ai soon but am not yet convinced.
are there any tester logs? i need to get an ai soon but am not yet convinced.
It would sell like crazy if they would just prove their formula's effectiveness.
i would give up on them bigt and just stick to what is proven to really work.
my intent here is not to discredit i-force, i merely want to see the basis for the claims. i just want to see the tests they base this on.:dunno:
where does this all come from? i want to ask you a million questions, but where is the source? who tested it? rumors can spread like cancer.
What question are you asking?
Bigt
Look at a thread I posted in the nutra thread called TT-33 all the proof you need is posted towards/at the end by nutraplanet CS. it was tested by two independent third party companies. it answers the exact question you are asking.
oh sh*t my bad bro, I got distracted. sorry bout that.
man i can't believe im reading all the drama... thats why i dont post on BB...
bottom line folks: the information has been presented. take it or leave it. it's up to you..
i mean, some of these guys wouldnt be satisfied with a pic of iForce's CEO holding the proof written in blood, while wearing a bunny suit, holding a spatula and riding a unicycle.
sorry... i haven't eaten...
I think you are beating a dead horse BigT...
yeah, it appears that no tests are available-kinda makes me wonder?????:dunno:
yeah, won't be a product i buy.
7-methoxy as part of a "S.E.R.M. Matrix" ? :nervous:
I think bigt is 100% valid in his questions, especially with the way it is advertised with a graph. And just because companies don't doesn't mean they shouldn't.
I think bigt is 100% valid in his questions, especially with the way it is advertised with a graph. And just because companies don't doesn't mean they shouldn't.
Agree 100% here. It would go a long way towards bringing more validity to this business.
We have blood work on out new slin type product.....just saying.:439:
Not to get off topic though.
what are the ingredients in that?
Grambo, i can see where you and BigT are going with that... i shouldnt have posted on this thread when i dont have all the facts anyways..
my bad.
carry on![]()
The SERM matrix was on Rv1 too I think. And didn't they post some files showing that the ellagic acid was considered a serm in studies?
you guys are too hung up on blood tests. ive never seen a company release blood tests prior to the release of a product. i already bought a bottle. cant wait to use it.
a methylated flavone is supposed to have good bioavailability...and if the AI strength is indeed as purported, then it'll be awesome
we need to see some bloods on this for sure...
Maybe my thinking is too simple, but the original wasn't changed because of some great new discovery, it was pulled because of all the new BS from the FDA. So the original tried and true ingredients were altered due to potential legal issues and replaced with suspect and unproven ones........ kinda looks similar to all the new 'safe', 'legal', 'natural' prohormones that come on the market following every new FDA ban/crackdown.
We have tested it. That's why it was released. Our in house testing was phenominal, as is the SCIENCE that proves this ingredient beyond any doubt.
No one believed us on rv1, few believe us now...it'll be proven all over again.![]()
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Are there logs to follow for the proof?
Doing my best to get an Iforce forum here. There will be plenty here after that.
Hmmm, looks as if some ask very valid questions with NO answer from the ones with the "proof." I wonder, though, how many times has this happen over the years?
If you're going to make a claim, you better have the damn proof. If not, at least get all your ass-kissing fanboys to vouch for you... that's company policy, right?
iForce = Crap.
I don`t think is crap
Doing my best to get an Iforce forum here. There will be plenty here after that.
why do you have to have a forum here in order to post test results: either you have them or you don't.:dunno: