Wife Has COVID-19

[thebigt]

Come on man the over the top Biden hate is getting ridiculous here. Covid-19 death rates have been much higher for visible minorities throughout the entire pandemic right from the beginning. There are various socio-economic factors at play here that will continue to exist whoever the president of the day happens to be at any present moment. Things like availability of quality healthcare (it's no surprise that lower income Americans receive far worse health care than higher income earners) and exposure rates due to nature of employment (service industry workers like grocery store workers and industrial jobs like packing plant workers have both been hit very hard) are both major factors. Add in the fact that the poorer class of Americans are more likely to live in crowded conditions and also more likely to have chronic health conditions and you have an unfortunate recipe for increased covid-19 fatality rates.

all i am asking for is accountability--biden ran on doing a better job of handling the pandemic-he repeatedly told us he would do a better job---where are the results.
obviously the vaccines are not the only solution needed since many are still dying and hospitals are being overwhelmed---why didn't he re-install the trump plan of using national guard to set up covid treatment centers?

oh, wait--after 10s of thousands have died NOW he is going to re-install trumps use of national guard to assist in treating covid!!!

 

[thebigt]

Where is the cherry picking? I'm just not agreeing with a good chunk of your presented arguments as they look to be based more on conjecture and emotion rather than backed up with logic and facts. The fact that minorities are being disproportionately killed by covid infections is a complicated issue with a vast number of compounding factors which can't easily be addressed by a single man in such a short period of time. Unless Joe Biden is somehow able to end racial poverty with the stroke of a pen I'm not sure what you honestly expect him to do here.

I wouldn't necessarily say I'm a big Biden supporter but I certainly prefer his approach compared to the bluster and bravado of his predecessor.

well he could have reinstated trumps plan of using national guard to assist in treatment of covid

or when unvaccinated are dying at a fast pace he could have told those unvaccinated to seek medical assistance immediately after testing positive especially if they have underlying illness when there are treatments available that are no longer available once symptoms are severe enough to require hospitilization.

 

[max silver]

Again there is no president to blame. Numbers show less people died under Trump with no vaccine while up to boosters now and people still dying at a much higher rate. Worry about your health and exercise, add in diet and majority will be fine. Speaking as a non vaccine, family of 5 and all had Delta and lasted a couple days for adults. Kids half a day. Good luck as none of us want to see people getting sick.

all i am asking for is accountability--biden ran on doing a better job of handling the pandemic-he repeatedly told us he would do a better job---where are the results.
obviously the vaccines are not the only solution needed since many are still dying and hospitals are being overwhelmed---why didn't he re-install the trump plan of using national guard to set up covid treatment centers?

oh, wait--after 10s of thousands have died NOW he is going to re-install trumps use of national guard to assist in treating covid!!!

It's possible the results may have actually been better under Biden relatively speaking compared to under Trump.

Thus far, according to Invalid Link Removed, Biden has presided over about 353,000 deaths in a little over 10 months, compared to about 425,000 for Trump in his final 10-plus months. So there have still been fewer deaths under Biden than under Trump, in a similar time period.

The best comparison to my mind, though, is not the raw numbers — which depend upon how bad things are, when waves occur, emerging variants, etc. — but how we compare to the rest of the world. Just as the best comparisons for Trump’s numbers worldwide were per capita and relative, so, too, are Biden’s.

What we can say: Under Biden, we have accounted for a significantly smaller share of worldwide deaths than under Trump.
The 425,000 deaths we saw in Trump’s 10-plus months accounted for nearly 20 percent of all worldwide deaths, according to Invalid Link Removed.
Since Biden took over, the world as a whole has seen more deaths in his 10 months (3.07 million) than the preceding 10 months (2.14 million), but the United States has seen fewer. In Biden’s 10-plus months, the United States has accounted for less than 12 percent of worldwide deaths, which is down from 19.9 percent under Trump. That’s a decline of more than 40 percent in our proportion of the worldwide death rate.

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[thebigt]

Where is the cherry picking? I'm just not agreeing with a good chunk of your presented arguments as they look to be based more on conjecture and emotion rather than backed up with logic and facts. The fact that minorities are being disproportionately killed by covid infections is a complicated issue with a vast number of compounding factors which can't easily be addressed by a single man in such a short period of time. Unless Joe Biden is somehow able to end racial poverty with the stroke of a pen I'm not sure what you honestly expect him to do here.

I wouldn't necessarily say I'm a big Biden supporter but I certainly prefer his approach compared to the bluster and bravado of his predecessor.

lol...reread your post and then tell us with a straight face you aren't a big biden supporter...i've got 50cents that says you voted for biden [at least once] pm me your address if i am wrong and i will send you your 50cents.

 

[thebigt]

It's possible the results may have actually been better under Biden relatively speaking compared to under Trump.

Thus far, according to Invalid Link Removed, Biden has presided over about 353,000 deaths in a little over 10 months, compared to about 425,000 for Trump in his final 10-plus months. So there have still been fewer deaths under Biden than under Trump, in a similar time period.

The best comparison to my mind, though, is not the raw numbers — which depend upon how bad things are, when waves occur, emerging variants, etc. — but how we compare to the rest of the world. Just as the best comparisons for Trump’s numbers worldwide were per capita and relative, so, too, are Biden’s.

What we can say: Under Biden, we have accounted for a significantly smaller share of worldwide deaths than under Trump.
The 425,000 deaths we saw in Trump’s 10-plus months accounted for nearly 20 percent of all worldwide deaths, according to Invalid Link Removed.
Since Biden took over, the world as a whole has seen more deaths in his 10 months (3.07 million) than the preceding 10 months (2.14 million), but the United States has seen fewer. In Biden’s 10-plus months, the United States has accounted for less than 12 percent of worldwide deaths, which is down from 19.9 percent under Trump. That’s a decline of more than 40 percent in our proportion of the worldwide death rate.

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tell me again that you aren't a big biden supporter?

anyways in the spirit of the season-MERRY CHRISTMAS and GOD BLESS

 

[max silver]

tell me again that you aren't a big biden supporter?

anyways in the spirit of the season-MERRY CHRISTMAS and GOD BLESS

I'm more of an interested observer rather than a supporter given my geographical location.

Merry Christmas to you as well.

 

[Kronic]

I do wish Trump would have went all in on regeneron instead of the vaccines. let's be real, noone in charge of "science" (lol we have a science guy) wanted him to succeed. I'm pretty sure EUA was postponed until after elections due to bias. so maybe if dems weren't busy calling Trump xenophobic for using travel bans, or even dems being antivax themselves because it was "Trump's vaccine" he would have had more help. regardless, he did way better than Biden. Biden has a permanent cough while Trump gets covid then dances around YMCA all mega gay doing tons of live rallies

 

[thebigt]

I do wish Trump would have went all in on regeneron instead of the vaccines. let's be real, noone in charge of "science" (lol we have a science guy) wanted him to succeed. I'm pretty sure EUA was postponed until after elections due to bias. so maybe if dems weren't busy calling Trump xenophobic for using travel bans, or even dems being antivax themselves because it was "Trump's vaccine" he would have had more help. regardless, he did way better than Biden. Biden has a permanent cough while Trump gets covid then dances around YMCA all mega gay doing tons of live rallies

in all honesty biden did not look well yesterday...i don't want him to continue as president but i don't wish any harm to come to him...i honestly feel sorry for biden, it's clear[to me at least]that he is suffering from mental decline and very possibly mental illness...i don't wish mental illness on anyone, even someone i have serious issues with.

 

[Kronic]

in all honesty biden did not look well yesterday...i don't want him to continue as president but i don't wish any harm to come to him...i honestly feel sorry for biden, it's clear[to me at least]that he is suffering from mental decline and very possibly mental illness...i don't wish mental illness on anyone, even someone i have serious issues with.

he's been coughing for multiple months now. this guy smoke weed or what?

 

[thebigt]

he's been coughing for multiple months now. this guy smoke weed or what?

lots of people around him have tested positive-including pzaki.

 

[rob112]

I don't think it's necessarily true that blacks and hispanics are more hesitant to receive vaccinations compared to whites, it very well may be more of an issue to accessibility to vaccination that is behind much of the lower vaccination rates in these groups.

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Ibram Kendi said this same thing…What city are you implying minorities live in that have no pharmacies…or which city is it that the federal government is not giving the vaccine to? Is there no schools? I know many schools had vaccine drives to help people that had trouble getting it. My kids school did in case people could not access the 23 pharmacies with vaccines in walking distance.

Tell us where this city is so we can get the word out about this systemic racism.

 

[rob112]

Trumps biggest mistake during the pandemic was not firing Fauci. We have done the worst by a landslide with the pandemic compared to pretty much every other country. Yet somehow that dickhead gets celebrated. Dudes been terrible for decades. Hell if he would have followed the ruling during Obama to not do gain of function research there might not even be a pandemic for him to be fucking up.

 

[Kronic]

Trumps biggest mistake during the pandemic was not firing Fauci. We have done the worst by a landslide with the pandemic compared to pretty much every other country. Yet somehow that dickhead gets celebrated. Dudes been terrible for decades. Hell if he would have followed the ruling during Obama to not do gain of function research there might not even be a pandemic for him to be fucking up.

ya Trump definitely got duped by pharma with the vaccines. I mean to an extent they are good to have as an option, but he must have gotten a bunch of money from pharma for it. how is bpc 157 not passed human trials? cuz it would end illnesses

 

[rob112]

ya Trump definitely got duped by pharma with the vaccines. I mean to an extent they are good to have as an option, but he must have gotten a bunch of money from pharma for it. I think pharma Pfizer garbage is to blame. how is bpc 157 not passed human trials? cuz it would end illnesses

Good point. Hell how did FDA during Covaids decide NAC is a medicine.

Best way I can put my thoughts on Trump is he is Godzilla. He was a monster, he might kill Tokyo, but he is better than king Ghidorah. In the face of king ghidorah you might want Godzilla to fight him, but then like go back in the water and chill haha

 

[GreenMachineX]

It's possible the results may have actually been better under Biden relatively speaking compared to under Trump.

Thus far, according to Invalid Link Removed, Biden has presided over about 353,000 deaths in a little over 10 months, compared to about 425,000 for Trump in his final 10-plus months. So there have still been fewer deaths under Biden than under Trump, in a similar time period.

The best comparison to my mind, though, is not the raw numbers — which depend upon how bad things are, when waves occur, emerging variants, etc. — but how we compare to the rest of the world. Just as the best comparisons for Trump’s numbers worldwide were per capita and relative, so, too, are Biden’s.

What we can say: Under Biden, we have accounted for a significantly smaller share of worldwide deaths than under Trump.
The 425,000 deaths we saw in Trump’s 10-plus months accounted for nearly 20 percent of all worldwide deaths, according to Invalid Link Removed.
Since Biden took over, the world as a whole has seen more deaths in his 10 months (3.07 million) than the preceding 10 months (2.14 million), but the United States has seen fewer. In Biden’s 10-plus months, the United States has accounted for less than 12 percent of worldwide deaths, which is down from 19.9 percent under Trump. That’s a decline of more than 40 percent in our proportion of the worldwide death rate.

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So, under Biden, 75k fewer deaths in a similar time period. That's all the vaccines and current treatments prevented? No matter what side your on, we both can spin the facts any way we want.

 

[max silver]

So, under Biden, 75k fewer deaths in a similar time period. That's all the vaccines and current treatments prevented? No matter what side your on, we both can spin the facts any way we want.

It's certainly easy to spin data any way you wish. One interesting point from the quoted article and something I had noticed previously when looking at worldometers death curves is that Biden took over from Trump right around the peak of the largest covid wave up that point in the pandemic. This is something that was inherited from the previous regime and doesn't seem reasonable to pin any blame on the Biden administration as some sort of failure as these infections and subsequent deaths were well underway before they even took office. From there the coronavirus morphed into the far more infectious and fatal delta variant which quickly took over as the predominant strain worldwide which has hammered the whole world. From the general tone of discussion presented here I would be led to believe that Joe Biden must be personally to blame for this.

Once the smoke fully clears and all of the available data is analyzed we will be able to get a fuller picture of each administrations failures and successes.

 

[jmero2]

sorry I only use Pfizer products. I'm gonna get their covid pill and take it as a daily multivitamin

Me too!

 

[Kronic]

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doesn't anyone remember the early alalysis of covid was that it was engineered and part of it looked like it was HIV?

 

[rob112]

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doesn't anyone remember the early alalysis of covid was that it was engineered and part of it looked like it was HIV?

Just another cOnsPiRacY ThEorY bro

Lord Fauci is all that is true. He is science!

 

[Kronic]

makes me think that the selection of spike protein for vaccines was limited otherwise you would cause major illnesses. it seems like injecting a live virus really. I guess there's some enzyme added to make it only pre-fusion or something? this is supposed to prevent antibody dependant enhancement, but idk man seems sus

 

[mase1]

Between vaccines starting and boosters added there seems to follow a spike in cases. When they added 5-11 there was all of a sudden 72% spike in that age group. Is it a scare tactic or is immune system that suppressed to invite the virus in?

 

[Kronic]

Between vaccines starting and boosters added there seems to follow a spike in cases. When they added 5-11 there was all of a sudden 72% spike in that age group. Is it a scare tactic or is immune system that suppressed to invite the virus in?

I don't think it's really a mystery that you are at risk for the first week after getting the shot

 

[thebigt]

It's certainly easy to spin data any way you wish. One interesting point from the quoted article and something I had noticed previously when looking at worldometers death curves is that Biden took over from Trump right around the peak of the largest covid wave up that point in the pandemic. This is something that was inherited from the previous regime and doesn't seem reasonable to pin any blame on the Biden administration as some sort of failure as these infections and subsequent deaths were well underway before they even took office. From there the coronavirus morphed into the far more infectious and fatal delta variant which quickly took over as the predominant strain worldwide which has hammered the whole world. From the general tone of discussion presented here I would be led to believe that Joe Biden must be personally to blame for this.

Once the smoke fully clears and all of the available data is analyzed we will be able to get a fuller picture of each administrations failures and successes.

lol...it's good that you admitted to being a biden supporter--the spin is making me dizzy.

what is important is today--i see biden finally relented and is going to start using national guard to assist in treating covid---we have a healthcare worker @Ricky10 who has been telling us how overwhelmed he and his co-workers have been for months-why did biden wait until now to do something trump did in 2020?
i get the feeling a lot more spin is coming -eh.


i get it, trump is bad and biden walks on water-eh?

 

[rob112]

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Interesting. Doesn’t mean I think it helps no one, but this idea that still dominates society that if we all vax and do nothing else this will go away is ridiculous.

Side question: what is more frustrating: people who have covaids hysteria and want to give up the bill of rights or people who know something is wrong and remain silent?

 

[rob112]

lol...it's good that you admitted to being a biden supporter--the spin is making me dizzy.

what is important is today--i see biden finally relented and is going to start using national guard to assist in treating covid---we have a healthcare worker @Ricky10 who has been telling us how overwhelmed he and his co-workers have been for months-why did biden wait until now to do something trump did in 2020?
i get the feeling a lot more spin is coming -eh.


i get it, trump is bad and biden walks on water-eh?

I agree 100% he did not live up to pretty much anything he ran on which is the usual for life long politicians, but honestly I don’t think he is making any decisions. The guy is on an obvious serious mental decline. Kinda scary but the oligarchy is showing itself yet many will not see it.

 

[Kronic]

I know someone who got sick right after their 3rd shot. covid test negative though so totally unrelated

 

[thebigt]

I agree 100% he did not live up to pretty much anything he ran on which is the usual for life long politicians, but honestly I don’t think he is making any decisions. The guy is on an obvious serious mental decline. Kinda scary but the oligarchy is showing itself yet many will not see it.

what is scary is that it is obvious that biden is in mental decline-i don't know how anyone could debate this---but yet we have people who defend his every move like he is beyond reproach..registered independents are 41% of voters , only 29% of independents approve of biden, and yet 87% of democrats approve of biden---it would seem that democrats are exactly what they accused trump supporters of-drinking the kool aid-cult members.

 

[rob112]

what is scary is that it is obvious that biden is in mental decline-i don't know how anyone could debate this---but yet we have people who defend his every move like he is beyond reproach..registered independents are 41% of voters , only 29% of independents approve of biden, and yet 87% of democrats approve of biden---it would seem that democrats are exactly what they accused trump supporters of-drinking the kool aid-cult members.

It’s usually projection when a person seems irrational

 

[thebigt]

It’s usually projection when a person seems irrational

biden won the independent vote by 13%, the reason his approval rating is NOW so low is because independents are not aligned to biden as democrat party members, and are willing to judge him more fairly than the 87% of democrats who are going to back biden blindly--the exact same thing they accused trump supporters of doing.

it isn't just covid either--i bet those that are defending what a great job biden has done on covid would also argue what a great job biden has done with the border and with afghanistan--and put everything that is going wrong in this country squarely on the shoulders of trump...

biden has been neither a uniter or healer-but i guess that is trumps fault also--bet on it, lol.

yeah, but but but but trump....

 

[GreenMachineX]

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Interesting. Doesn’t mean I think it helps no one, but this idea that still dominates society that if we all vax and do nothing else this will go away is ridiculous.

Side question: what is more frustrating: people who have covaids hysteria and want to give up the bill of rights or people who know something is wrong and remain silent?

Is that actually correct though? 75% of deaths in UK are fully vaccinated???

 

[Rostam]

Is that actually correct though? 75% of deaths in UK are fully vaccinated???

Probably. And it will be a time when 100% of deaths will be among vaccinated once everyone will be vaccinated. It’s basic math.

 

[SkRaw85]

ya Trump definitely got duped by pharma with the vaccines. I mean to an extent they are good to have as an option, but he must have gotten a bunch of money from pharma for it. how is bpc 157 not passed human trials? cuz it would end illnesses

Shhhhhhhh, don’t speak reason!

 

[FlexMasterFunk]

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[rob112]

Is that actually correct though? 75% of deaths in UK are fully vaccinated???

Yes because they are all pretty much vaccinated.

 

[rob112]

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Saved for later thanks

 

[poison]

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Tedros, head of the WHO: "Some countries are using boosters to kill children, which is not right.”

 

[Kronic]

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Tedros, head of the WHO: "Some countries are using boosters to kill children, which is not right.”

mostly boys too =\

 

[thebigt]

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why the hell isn't the biden admin, cdc and others talking about and pushing this--if this agenda were to have been followed many, many lives could have been saved---

why the fucking hell isn't fauci talking about this with all the media time and attention he gets!!!

 

[thebigt]

Saved for later thanks

that manual should have been talked about many months ago, many lives could have been saved if this protocol would have been promoted and followed!!!

 

[poison]

I'm about to order ivermectin for a couple bouts of covid, as per americas frontline dr recommendations.

 

[Ricky10]

@thanosnap @Ricky10 Quick question for you guys and anyone who might can answer this for me....

GF is a lawyer, works in an office with seven other people. Someone in her office tested positive from a PCR test taken on Tuesday. She had minimal contact (girl stood outside her office and talked to her. They were not masked at the time) with her on Monday. Everyone in the office shares the common areas in the office and when they are in the common areas they wear masks. Girl had ZERO symptoms Monday and Monday night. Apparently she went to a party Monday night, ate some seafood that she normally doesnt eat and woke up Tuesday morning before work, felt nauseous and started throwing up. She assumed it was food poisoning but got a Rapid PCR test out of precaution and it was positive

Should also mention GF is vaxxed (April was 2nd dose) and had a breakthrough infection a few days before labor day in September.

The whole office took rapid test this morning and they was all negative. We also had a PCR test scheduled for tomorrow since we were going to be around family for Christmas Eve & Christmas. If its negative do yall think she good to be around Christmas day? I ask because it would only be 3 days post exposure

That sucks, and time is running short for Christmas and I am going through a somewhat similar situation in regard to my father and his wife at the moment who were directly exposed. I really have nothing additional to add myself in light of testing beyond CDC guidance as that is not something I am directly involved with. However, a positive or negative rapid test is always followed up with a PCR in the hospital. PCR is obviously the “gold standard“, so 3 days post exposure with a negative PCR test fits within the 3-5 day post exposure recommendations. Personally, I would feel more comfortable with the 5 day protocol, or as close to the event as possible under normal circumstances. I hope it all works out for you!

I do wish Trump would have went all in on regeneron instead of the vaccines. let's be real, noone in charge of "science" (lol we have a science guy) wanted him to succeed. I'm pretty sure EUA was postponed until after elections due to bias. so maybe if dems weren't busy calling Trump xenophobic for using travel bans, or even dems being antivax themselves because it was "Trump's vaccine" he would have had more help. regardless, he did way better than Biden. Biden has a permanent cough while Trump gets covid then dances around YMCA all mega gay doing tons of live rallies

Well things are about to change or already have in light of monoclonal antibodies in regard to the Omicron variant. More to be seen on many levels in regard to Omicron to be sure.

In terms of Delta, the anti vax population particularly has been reliant on using this therapy as their safety net as opposed to vaccination. At least those that care to acknowledge the virus I should say. Problem is, the monoclonal antibodies are infinitely more labor intensive to produce as well as administer. This ties up outpatient healthcare staff (nurses/doctor) who are also lacking staff/resources. Not to mention the cost of the current monoclonal antibodies is $2,000 as opposed to $20-$30 for vaccines. While they are all offered “for free” by the federal government, we are all paying for these monoclonal antibody infusions at $2,000 a pop.

 

[thebigt]

That sucks, and time is running short for Christmas and I am going through a somewhat similar situation in regard to my father and his wife at the moment who were directly exposed. I really have nothing additional to add myself in light of testing beyond CDC guidance as that is not something I am directly involved with. However, a positive or negative rapid test is always followed up with a PCR in the hospital. PCR is obviously the “gold standard“, so 3 days post exposure with a negative PCR test fits within the 3-5 day post exposure recommendations. Personally, I would feel more comfortable with the 5 day protocol, or as close to the event as possible under normal circumstances. I hope it all works out for you!

Well things are about to change or already have in light of monoclonal antibodies in regard to the Omicron variant. More to be seen on many levels in regard to Omicron to be sure.

In terms of Delta, the anti vax population particularly has been reliant on using this therapy as their safety net as opposed to vaccination. At least those that care to acknowledge the virus I should say. Problem is, the monoclonal antibodies are infinitely more labor intensive to produce as well as administer. This ties up outpatient healthcare staff (nurses/doctor) who are also lacking staff/resources. Not to mention the cost of the current monoclonal antibodies is $2,000 as opposed to $20-$30 for vaccines. While they are all offered “for free” by the federal government, we are all paying for these monoclonal antibody infusions at $2,000 a pop.

$2,000 seems like a small amount to save a persons life? what does 3-4 days in the ICU cost while being on a respirator?

i guess the alternative is fuckem-they didn't get the $30 shot so let the stupid fuckers rot in the parking lot--this is what they used to do back in the 80s with poor people in the philippines.

i am a republican and i know that there is a lot of waste that goes on with welfare and government assistance, but i have lived in a 3rd world country that didn't have a safety net and it was not pretty. having lived in a truly 3rd world country as a civilian showed me what REAL poverty is--we are better than that.

 

[Ricky10]

$2,000 seems like a small amount to save a persons life? what does 3-4 days in the ICU cost while being on a respirator?

i guess the alternative is fuckem-they didn't get the $30 shot so let the stupid fuckers rot in the parking lot--this is what they used to do back in the 80s with poor people in the philippines.

i am a republican and i know that there is a lot of waste that goes on with welfare and government assistance, but i have lived in a 3rd world country that didn't have a safety net and it was not pretty. having lived in a truly 3rd world country as a civilian showed me what REAL poverty is--we are better than that.

Yes, the infusions are still much more economical than a hospital stay and that is one huge reason why they have become so commonplace. But these infusions are running short, and many people can’t get them within the timeframe of efficacy even if they want them.

However, Regeneron and Eli, Lilly’s treatments, while effective against previous coronavirus variants, are likely not effective against Omicron, whereas GSK treatment appears to still be effective. So we are now heading toward ramping up supplies of the GSK infusions. The question I have is do we need them…or will they be in high demand?

Delta is a completely different animal from Omicron from what we have been told. I have yet to be in the position to assess the impact of Omicron on patients at my hospital, but it surely shouldn’t be long. I hope more than anyone that it is substantially less virulent as has been reported.

 

[GreenMachineX]

Probably. And it will be a time when 100% of deaths will be among vaccinated once everyone will be vaccinated. It’s basic math.

Basic math whatever. Those vaccines aren't doing a great job then.

 

[thebigt]

Yes, the infusions are still much more economical than a hospital stay and that is one huge reason why they have become so commonplace. But these infusions are running short, and many people can’t get them within the timeframe of efficacy even if they want them.

However, Regeneron and Eli, Lilly’s treatments, while effective against previous coronavirus variants, are likely not effective against Omicron, whereas GSK treatment appears to still be effective. So we are now heading toward ramping up supplies of the GSK infusions. The question I have is do we need them…or will they be in high demand?

Delta is a completely different animal from Omicron from what we have been told. I have yet to be in the position to assess the impact of Omicron on patients at my hospital, but it surely shouldn’t be long. I hope more than anyone that it is substantially less virulent as has been reported.

biden needs his feet held to the fire to get what is needed---look at the heat trump took...and biden PROMISED to do better.

biden is treating the unvaccinated like we are living in 1980s philppines-fuckem.

 

[Nodus1]

biden needs his feet held to the fire to get what is needed---look at the heat trump took...and biden PROMISED to do better.

biden is treating the unvaccinated like we are living in 1980s philppines-fuckem.

His ineptitude is approaching Cuomo-like standards.

 

[Ricky10]

Basic math whatever. Those vaccines aren't doing a great job then.

They truly are though, you can’t take data like that out of context. I seriously can’t remember the last time I treated a vaccinated patient for COVID/PNA. Yesterday, I was assigned the ICU, and I was being called up to the unit before I even had my coat off for the intubation of 2 unvaccinated patients. One was a patient that doesn’t even believe in COVID and by default the vaccines. Apparently he was treating those caring for him the prior 2 days like sh*t…and refusing oxygen/BIPAP etc. When I got up there he maxed out on every oxygen device available until anesthesia arrived to place the tube.

These people are a rarity, but we really wish they would just stay at home instead of berating us for their own poor choices and ignorance that led up to their critical condition.

 

[Ricky10]

On another note:

My girlfriend has a part-time job at a supermarket bakery. Someone she works with closely in the department is against vaccines, doesn’t take COVID seriously, and often removes his mask while working/talking with my GF. He told her a few days ago at work that he had cold symptoms and lost his sense of smell and taste. He obviously didn’t report these symptoms to their employer as he would be sent home. My GF just kept her distance the rest of that shift and hoped for the best. Also taking comfort in the fact that she is fully vaccinated.

Tonight she was scheduled to work with him again, and I told her that I was going to call the store manager and report that this associate was being dishonest and needs to be pulled out of work due to being COVID symptomatic. Otherwise, don’t expect my GF to be showing up and you best pay her for the shift regardless. I am sick and tired of ignorant self centered people. Done!

My girlfriend said that she would take care of the situation herself and just go to work. She just texted me to let me know the symptomatic associate was sent home

 

[thebigt]

His ineptitude is approaching Cuomo-like standards.

Cuomo and standards don't belong in the same sentence...but yes, biden or whoever it is who is actually running things is at or exceeding the Cuomo level.

 

[thebigt]

They truly are though, you can’t take data like that out of context. I seriously can’t remember the last time I treated a vaccinated patient for COVID/PNA. Yesterday, I was assigned the ICU, and I was being called up to the unit before I even had my coat off for the intubation of 2 unvaccinated patients. One was a patient that doesn’t even believe in COVID and by default the vaccines. Apparently he was treating those caring for him the prior 2 days like sh*t…and refusing oxygen/BIPAP etc. When I got up there he maxed out on every oxygen device available until anesthesia arrived to place the tube.

These people are a rarity, but we really wish they would just stay at home instead of berating us for their own poor choices and ignorance that led up to their critical condition.

you ever think that mental illness might be involved?

walk a mile-eh?