When my daughters school mandated vaccines, I email the dipshit administrator and asked straight out: If I agree to vaccinate my daughter, will you personally, along with the school, take responsibility for any negative side effects from the vax? Would you, ricky?
I don’t agree with vaccination being indicated for lets just say 16 or 18 years old and under. However, I definitely think it should be strongly considered in that demographic for those that are obese and/or diabetic, or have other risk factors.
I wouldn’t take responsibility for any negative sides if I brought a ziplock bag filled with one peanut into a grade school cafeteria.
Just calling out the bold part - do you really believe they vaccines have helped prevent people from getting to the ICU? It seems like, while half of the nation (or 72%) has become vaccinated - you are at ground zero seeing an increase and still holding onto hope that, "All we need is for more people to get vaccinated".
Yeah, apparently we are 72% fully vaccinated here currently. In the beginning of Delta, I know we were all discouraged in the hospital because we were seeing that roughly 40-50% of people being admitted with COVID were vaccinated. Some of those who were vaccinated did not got to the hospital for COVID related symptoms though, and just happened to test positive with routine testing. Aside from that, it didn’t take too long to recognize that the vaccinated COVID patients were indeed having much easier and shorter runs in the hospital, and rarely landed themselves in intensive care or on a ventilator. I think we have only had 2 vaccinated COVID patients on ventilators. I can’t even begin to count how many unvaccinated people we have had in intensive care and/or on ventilators.
In the past three weeks or so, we have had many more COVID admissions (~30 inpatients consistently) and rising. But now it’s very rare that I come across a vaccinated COVID patient, and even more rare that they require intensive care or a ventilator. Just 1 of the 11 vents we had a few days ago were vaccinated. Incidentally, we were down to 7 by the end of the next day. However, I don’t even know if they were successfully weaned off, transferred, or if they were removed from the ventilators to pass. I didn’t have the unit and we didn’t have enough time to discuss those details near the end of the day.
So I have mainly been in the emergency department and general floors the last few weeks, and all except for maybe 5% of the people I have seen for recent COVID admissions, or have looked up otherwise have been vaccinated. And the only patient RT has really had to do anything significant with is the 1 person on the ventilator (who is elderly) and maybe he was one of the four we lost?
So yes: when unvaccinated people are coming in the hospital with COVID PNA and vaccinated people are staying home, I think it’s quite clear that it’s proving beneficial.
Well, take smoking: I think you're an idiot if you smoke. So, in refusing treatment for a smoker, I would be essentially refusing treatment based on intellect, and that is wrong. In the case of obesity, I would be refusing treatment based on some personal weakness or lack of willpower. In the case of covid vaccines, ricky would refuse treatment because he thinks they're stupid.
I would only go so far as to call unvaccinated people stupid in a few instances. In most cases, I think they have just been too paranoid or scared off from all the the talk about sides or potential thereof (real or fabricated), and don’t make proper risk assessments as a result.
The stupid ones I can explain as being the following:
Two days ago, one of my coworkers went into an unvaccinated COVID positive patient’s room to try and wean her oxygen and this lady in her 50’s happened to be talking to her daughter on her cell/speaker phone. And no, the mother does not have dementia mind you.
Mom: Are you going to get tested since we were around each other so much?
Daughter: No, you probably just have a cold..
Mom: Yeah, I know. You’re probably right
Daughter: Yup, I’m going out Christmas shopping today!
I think the difference in this scenario is that smokers, drinkers, and even the obese are aware of the dangers their habits have. An extraordinary amount of people who are unvaccinated completely downplay the risks, saying its the flu or just the common cold, call people sheep for believing the virus is deadly, and then want help when they catch it and have severe symptoms.
Exactly
again bank robbers and terrorist KNOW the risks of what their doing. As does smokers and drinkers. The people im referring to are those who completely deny that their is any risk from Covid. Like dying isnt an option. They call it the flu or a cold, and live their life as such. There is a big difference between the two. You can disagree with how the **** is being handled but the virus is real and it kills.
You say incredibly dumb **** man to anyone who disagrees with you. No one is saying let people die, but people will call @Ricky10 a sheep and puppet, but then go to the hospital for his help. You have to be able to see how crazy that is. You speak of sympathy yet throughout this entire thread speak about people who chose to get vaxxed in a negative light.
And exactly
Out of curiosity how many of them received the treatment that celebrities and politicians do?(i.e. monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, vitamins drips, etc)
And are you seeing anything else in common in these patients outside of vaccine status?
There is usually somewhat detailed information regarding outpatient therapies (not supplements) in the admission H&P if any were prescribed, or if they were treated/advised by their PCP. Also, they might note if patient was taking non prescribed Ivermectin or whatever the patient tells the admitting physician they were or weren’t doing themselves. If there was none of the above happening or disclosed by the patient, it just wouldn’t be mentioned.
Surprisingly, we haven’t had a problem with people seeking or demanding Ivermectin as an inpatient as you sometimes hear about. We don’t give routine vitamin drips of any kind, but patients do receive supplemental nutrients via Ng if the patient isn’t able to adequately nourish themselves. But the short answer is I don’t have a simple response to that.
Good questions. Age, sex, comorbidity, etc?
@Ricky10
There are definitely far less elderly people than let’s say a year ago. 50’s and 60’s being the most common age group, and there was a time a few months ago when it seemed the men were doing far worse than women. Currently, it’s fairly equal. Diabetics and/or obesity remain the largest common denominator. However, it’s not overly huge people, it’s your average every day American chunky 50 and 60 year olds. Then there are always a few in the mix who are a healthy weight and as young as in their mid 20’s. Of course they tend to do quite well, but they certainly would have rather avoided the shortness of breath and other symptoms that brought them to hospital. COVID admissions aren’t fun for the patient, or for the staff caring for them.
I know once admitted they are not given monoclonal antibodies, but it begs the question are any of the admitted patients people who received that treatment. It seems anyone rich, famous, or in government receives the treatment right away. My concern is doctors are not giving monoclonal antibodies(or anything like Tim Pools original doctor said) and by the time Ricky sees them it’s too late and an opportunity to help people was missed before reaching Ricky.
I actually don’t recall hearing or reading in H&P’s about anyone failing monoclonal antibodies in the recent past. Then again, lately I don’t have much spare time for perusing the H&P except to obtain information to do my job. I would imagine quite a few opportunities are missed..
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