what few things work for you?Lol should done your research before hand. Just because it works on A rat doesn't mean itll work on A human. Much less a whole community of people. I stopped buying stuff that doesn't have clinical trials. I save so much money and actually get results by sticking to the few things that actually work insteading of wasting my time and money on something that is unlikely to work.
Creatinewhat few things work for you?
Where was this study published? His website? And what university conducted it? Just a gym?I disagree respectfully Re: Laxo
Try Most Wanted by Iron Forged Nutrition. That is my go to for my clients. I have used it myself and probably honestly, not exaggerating over the last 5 years I have seen at least 30+ results with Laxogenin. It absolutely works very well. I do think brand and version you have makes a difference. I also believe Most Wanted is the Hydroxy version. Have you tried that?
My only complaint about Laxo is that it is expensive IMO.
Checkout this study on it.
I'm not saying that, I'm just questioning that one study that seems to be a "self-published study. If it was an actual published and peer-reviewed study, it'd be a huge gain for the ingredient and would make it logical for a lot of people to at least try it, but if it's just a guy running a "study" with people at his gym, then it doesn't have nearly the same weight to it. That's all I'm saying/asking.So laxo is not worth it?
I rep and I'm still out on wether Laxo works as advertised or not. That said; we produce a high quality, affordable Laxo product for those who want to experiment with it. Seems some people do respond well to it. And to be ultimately fair there are a good deal of ingredients and herbs that get praised on here, with little scientific evidence to back them up.BTW no offense to all the reps I know you guys have a job to do but I'm just being real here.
If you don’t mind me askingCreatine
There are some other supplements that work but not for bodybuilding purposes. For the most part the supplements listed above are the few that have been proven to work on Normal Healthy Humans. Taking Alpha lipoic acid as a healthy individual is kinda dumb when the only positive studies have been on diabetics. Taking DAA when the only positive studies have been done on infertile men is also kind of dumb.
And of course all of this is just my opinion. Do whatever you want :wall:
I looked it up and all I found was a study with 6 middle aged people. The study did report changes in myostatin but no muscle growth was actually reported. Furthermore they only reported that myostatin changed in correlation to follistatin. The actual increases and decreases where not noted. Will these changes translate to muscle growth? Maybe who knows but its far from proven. Is it worth further research? Yea absolutely.This is why I’d rather spend my money on Epicatechin which definitely works
What Brand Supps Are You Using ??I’m on like day 19 of the laxo and epicat both at 225mg per day and the pumps I got tonight at the gym were f$cking insane, keep in mind I’m cutting right now and should not be getting this good of a pump on 80 grams of carbs a day lol
The reason for this is simple: Laxogenin has a profound anti-inflammatory effect. WAY back (before some of you were born, LOL) I was using "Anabolica", by Maxwell Labs (pictured below. 5mg sublinguals). ZOE'S "Ecdysterone" was also a 5-alpha hydroxy laxogenin acetate sublingual as well, though there were just 1.5mg tabs. At the time, Anabolica was being distributed by Beyond a Century. The owner (Warren) once told me he sold "caseloads" to lupus patients, dealing with extreme inflammation. I've used damn near every Laxogenin on the market, since "Mesobolin" was made by Amino Discounters circa 1991.mine too!!!
Great Info, some time it pays to have "Been Around The Block"The reason for this is simple: Laxogenin has a profound anti-inflammatory effect. WAY back (before some of you were born, LOL) I was using "Anabolica", by Maxwell Labs (pictured below. 5mg sublinguals). ZOE'S "Ecdysterone" was also a 5-alpha hydroxy laxogenin acetate sublingual as well, though there were just 1.5mg tabs. At the time, Anabolica was being distributed by Beyond a Century. The owner (Warren) once told me he sold "caseloads" to lupus patients, dealing with extreme inflammation. I've used damn near every Laxogenin on the market, since "Mesobolin" was made by Amino Discounters circa 1991.
It is NOT an "anabolic", at least in the sense that we all would like it to be. However, when used as part of a broader formula focusing on muscle growth, Laxogenin (and other Ecdy analogs) absolutely outperform placebo for muscle growth. I use it in Progenadrex for said purpose, and the feedback on such is exceptional.
BTW, there's a solid mechanism of action behind your joints feeling so much better... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20171072View attachment 180606
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