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Why would they care about your GPA 5 years down the road though? Wouldn't actual performance in the classroom (teaching) vs how well you can learn, be far more important at that stage? Not saying its not the case but after the intial hire, performance becomes more important then anything.

They look at my entire Resume, meaning my grades, my classes i took, what i got in my classes, and what classes i did well or struggled in.
If you are an education major would a school district feel comfortable with hiring a person who did not perform well in those classes? I highly doubt it.

The education and information you learn in those classes apply to real world application and scenarios. yes your knowledge is important.
 
They look at my entire Resume, meaning my grades, my classes i took, what i got in my classes, and what classes i did well or struggled in. If you are an education major would a school district feel comfortable with hiring a person who did not perform well in those classes? I highly doubt it. The education and information you learn in those classes apply to real world application and scenarios. yes your knowledge is important.

I would just think that after some time your ability to teach would be more important then your ability to learn. You can be dumb as a rock but if you can explain 3rd grade math to third grade kids like a champ you'd be a wonderful teacher. I just feel like learning and teaching are very different
 
How can you teach if you fail to learn. that is what you are failing to grasp
I went to school to be a business education teacher, so if i did bad in my business classes would i do well teaching them? Not so much lol

if one went to school to be a english teacher, but did not do well in english how would that person ever teach well in english

etc etc...
 
Can I have T-Bones?
Maybe if you guess...? ;)
I'm guessing 98%of the class of your choice
I wish! Def lower than that unfortunately lol.
I think I'm losing my mind or something. I didn't even realize I was in that thread!
Are you joking around? You might be losing it haha! This is that thread ya weirdo! And you quoted yourself!
Amen to that, to get into med school I need a 3.9-4.0 GPA with a 36 MCAT. I'm on Track right now to do just that though! And great GPA man, what profession are you looking into? Edit: Second Guess is 88%

I'm about 8 months to a year away from turning in my applications to PA school
 
How can you teach if you fail to learn. that is what you are failing to grasp I went to school to be a business education teacher, so if i did bad in my business classes would i do well teaching them? Not so much lol if one went to school to be a english teacher, but did not do well in english how would that person ever teach well in english etc etc...

You can be an awful college student but have a stellar grasp of low level math or English and be a wonderful teacher at that. I'm just saying that what you're forced to learn and tested on in college or beyond isn't directly related to how well you can relay information (potentially on a totally different subject and level) to others. It works in reverse as well... Most of the most brilliant people I've ever met have a terrible time teaching anything because they're too smart to dumb things down for others.

Learning and teaching are not directly correlated.
 
Learning and teaching are not directly correlated.

Yes they are
Brb i cannot learn spanish for crap but am gonna go teach it? not gonna happen
Your gonna have some dude who can teach building a computer but has never learned how to do it before in his life? not so much
have someone teach an Auto Tech Class and assemble a car when he has never learned.

Not going to work.... You have to know what your doing, you have to have a good background or else you will be the most boring teacher ever, have 0 creativity, and the students will be zombies because you will be so damn boring and have no other ways of channeling information to the students besides read the book
 
Anyway, how'd that underwater basket weaving class go for ya, Spainard?
It actually went really well. I learned the cross stich, hatch stitch, and the bhole stich. The ladder bring the easiest to learn for whatever reason ;)

Thanks for asking man. How's trying to get married in your state working out for ya? Has it been legalized there yet?
 
Yes they are Brb i cannot learn spanish for crap but am gonna go teach it? not gonna happen Your gonna have some dude who can teach building a computer but has never learned how to do it before in his life? not so much have someone teach an Auto Tech Class and assemble a car when he has never learned. Not going to work.... You have to know what your doing, you have to have a good background or else you will be the most boring teacher ever, have 0 creativity, and the students will be zombies because you will be so damn boring and have no other ways of channeling information to the students besides read the book

Agree to disagree here. I can use myself as a prime example... I had average grades at best through college. I was just not into reading and repeating from a book or PowerPoint... In a few years I've worked my way into a consulting position with one of the largest companies in the world and will be traveling the world as a coach/mentor/teacher for high level plant and business segment managers. I'm a great speaker, coach, mentor, and can explain things to people in a way that allows them to not only understand but to apply once I've gone. Practical application is totally different from book learning and you can't be taught practical application in a classroom or tested on a scantron.
 
Agree to disagree here. I can use myself as a prime example... I had average grades at best through college. I was just not into reading and repeating from a book or PowerPoint... In a few years I've worked my way into a consulting position with one of the largest companies in the world and will be traveling the world as a coach/mentor/teacher for high level plant and business segment managers. I'm a great speaker, coach, mentor, and can explain things to people in a way that allows them to not only understand but to apply once I've gone. Practical application is totally different from book learning and you can't be taught practical application in a classroom or tested on a scantron.

Ok. lets go see you teach an auto mechanic class
Lets go see you head over to spain and teach a spanish class
Lets see you step into a computer programming class and teach javascript
Why not go hop in a hospital and start open heart surgery
I am sure you could learn on your first patient the right things to do.

I would not want one person to operate me who has not "Learned" what they are doing.
I would not want to be taught spanish by someone who cannot conjugate the verbs correctly or translater between past, present and future
I would not go to a mechanic who does not know how to learn how to put a car back together, how to fix brakes or change oil and mess it up.
I would not go to a guy for computer problems who would Fuk it up and prolong the process.

if you do not have good knowledge on what your doing, your not going to be successful. Your amount of thinking outside the box will be minimal, your creativty will be minimal, and the amount of people that will learn much off of you will be next to nothing.
 
Alrighty my 2nd guess it for 86% lol
 
Though there is a direct relationship with ones level of knowledge and ones ability to teach, it is not a direct correlation. Just because you have the knowledge does not mean you can effectively convey said knowledge to other people so that they may in turn learn it.

Yes it is an absolute given that you must learn the material in order to teach it, but learning is one skill and teaching is another skill, which does have it's a basis in acquired knowledge. So really teaching is the step after learning. I think it isnt a stretch to say teaching itself is a learned skill. And from my experience, especially in upper level academia, there are quite a few brilliant professors that cant teach what they know effectively, leaving me to have to go outside of their lectures and learn the material so I dont fail the class.

Solution...I am positive throughout your academic career you have come across teachers that where not effective "teachers" even though they knew the material very well.

Furthermore...you can be a slow learner and a great teacher. It may take one person much longer to understand a given concept but they may be extremely gifted in their ability to convey that. So this is an example where someone can be deficit in one and excel in the other.

So what I think what booneman is trying to say is that ones ability to acquire knowledge at a certain rate (i.e. ability to learn) does not correlate with their ability to share that knowledge in a way that is beneficial to others (i.e. teach)
 
Though there is a direct relationship with ones level of knowledge and ones ability to teach, it is not a direct correlation. Just because you have the knowledge does not mean you can effectively convey said knowledge to other people so that they may in turn learn it. Yes it is an absolute given that you must learn the material in order to teach it, but learning is one skill and teaching is another skill, which does have it's a basis in acquired knowledge. So really teaching is the step after learning. I think it isnt a stretch to say teaching itself is a learned skill. And from my experience, especially in upper level academia, there are quite a few brilliant professors that cant teach what they know effectively, leaving me to have to go outside of their lectures and learn the material so I dont fail the class. Solution...I am positive throughout your academic career you have come across teachers that where not effective "teachers" even though they knew the material very well. Furthermore...you can be a slow learner and a great teacher. It may take one person much longer to understand a given concept but they may be extremely gifted in their ability to convey that. So this is an example where someone can be deficit in one and excel in the other. So what I think what booneman is trying to say is that ones ability to acquire knowledge at a certain rate (i.e. ability to learn) does not correlate with their ability to share that knowledge in a way that is beneficial to others (i.e. teach)

Yep. Right in line with my thoughts. You have to know something to teach it but being able to learn doesn't mean you have the ability to teach.
 
Practical application is totally different from book learning and you can't be taught practical application in a classroom or tested on a scantron.
I see both sides but you can be taught practical application in a classroom. What was your major? Probably 10 percent of my college exams were scantron. Are you currently a motivational speaker or is it like a teacher for your occupation type job?
 
I see both sides but you can be taught practical application in a classroom. What was your major? Probably 10 percent of my college exams were scantron. Are you currently a motivational speaker or is it like a teacher for your occupation type job?

I don't think you can teach practical application in a classroom... You can't read about personalities and know how to react to situations on the fly without doing it. A book will never give you the pressure and feedback that a real person or situation will.

I had lots of professors who knew every tool that existed for process improvement but put them in a factory with a strong union and miserable people who don't want to change and there's no chance that they'd succeed. Knowing and applying are different in real life.

I do process improvement consulting for factories. I work with plant management to help them apply lean techniques to make their business faster/more efficient/more profitable/safer. Most of my speaking and presenting is done to large groups and its a compete change in their way of life so not only do I have to explain the how and why but I have to convince them that's it's worth the effort. Sometimes it's easy and a group is willing to change but other times it's like trying to paddle upstream and the harder you fight the harder they push back. At which point you have to change the way you approach things and try something "outside the norm" aka the book learnings.
 
I don't think you can teach practical application in a classroom... You can't read about personalities and know how to react to situations on the fly without doing it. A book will never give you the pressure and feedback that a real person or situation will. I had lots of professors who knew every tool that existed for process improvement but put them in a factory with a strong union and miserable people who don't want to change and there's no chance that they'd succeed. Knowing and applying are different in real life. I do process improvement consulting for factories. I work with plant management to help them apply lean techniques to make their business faster/more efficient/more profitable/safer. Most of my speaking and presenting is done to large groups and its a compete change in their way of life so not only do I have to explain the how and why but I have to convince them that's it's worth the effort. Sometimes it's easy and a group is willing to change but other times it's like trying to paddle upstream and the harder you fight the harder they push back. At which point you have to change the way you approach things and try something "outside the norm" aka the book learnings.
so you teach people how to improve their jobs through a variety of teaching methods and you have to convince them it's worth it?and its up to them to decide correct? Sounds like a teacher lol. You can't make them change but you try to give them the necessary tools and its up to them. Either way I see both sides but don't agree completely. Back to the thread :)
 
Lol this thread is full of win! Lots of passionate opinionated men! I personally think that's AWESOME!

Back on track, booneman77 won with my current grade of 91%! Hit me up with your address on Friday and what version and flavor you wish to receive! I may do this again on the same class in December, so be sure to follow our threads closely :)
 
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all he does is WIN!!!

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so you teach people how to improve their jobs through a variety of teaching methods and you have to convince them it's worth it?and its up to them to decide correct? Sounds like a teacher lol. You can't make them change but you try to give them the necessary tools and its up to them. Either way I see both sides but don't agree completely. Back to the thread :)

ha yes pretty much... and that's my point. I didn't apply myself as much as I could have and had average to sub par grades in college but am very good at my job. Its really more a question of effort in college. You can be brilliant but never turn in hw and have chitty grades
 
Lol this thread is full of win! Lots of passionate opinionated men! I personally think that's AWESOME!

Back on track, booneman77 won with my current grade of 91%! Hit me up with your address on Friday and what version and flavor you wish to receive! I may do this again on the same class in December, so be sure to follow our threads closely :)

YES! Now I can stop constantly trying to trick natty into giving me one of his tubs haha.

Was that grade really in walking class? ;)
 
YES! Now I can stop constantly trying to trick natty into giving me one of his tubs haha.

Was that grade really in walking class? ;)
Unfortunately, walking class isn't in my BIO degree :(

And for being a smart ass, you don't get a tub anymore
 
Jk lol
 
It actually went really well. I learned the cross stich, hatch stitch, and the bhole stich. The ladder bring the easiest to learn for whatever reason ;)

Thanks for asking man. How's trying to get married in your state working out for ya? Has it been legalized there yet?

It's still a no go for cousin luvin nuptials, so you'll not want to move here just yet...lol :)
 
Alright guys, we have everything set in stone and concrete with the planet!!! Nutraplanet that is! The sale goes live this Sunday!

You won't/don't want to miss out on this sale, so mark your calendars! Remember, this version received a 5 star review and is exactly tied with number one's score! This is huge, both versions annihilate the competition!

The countdown begins! T-minus 4 days =)
 
For the guys that didn't get a chance to read our bad ass review!

OLYMPUS LABS
CONQU3R DEMIGOD EDITION




Conqu3r Demigod Edition Supplement Facts

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CREATINOL-O-PHOSPHATE

Creatinol-O-Phosphate remains a very under-researched an ingredient given the preliminary findings which suggest it could be quite effective as an ergogenic.

Creatinol-O-Phosphate is alleged to counter fatigue by increasing cellular glycolysis in the presence of lactic acid. Of course, this is solely based on rat studies, with no published human research to date. If the effects noted in rodents held true in humans, Creatinol-O-Phosphate would function similarly to Beta-Alanine in the context of pre-workout supplements.

Olympus Labs makes no claims about Creatinol-O-Phosphate, but it does appear to be a featured ingredient in the Conqu3r Demigod Edition formula. Most pre-workouts we’ve reviewed contain roughly 500mg of Creatinol-O-Phosphate but Olympus has loaded Conqu3r Demigod Edition up with a whopping 2000mg. Clearly there is some emphasis being placed on this ingredient.

AMENTOFLAVONE:

Amentoflavone is a compound which can be found in such plants as Gingko and St. John’s Wort which has recently earned some recognition in the supplement community as a vasodilator and potential ergogenic.

Indeed, Amentoflavone has been shown, in vitro, to be a relatively potent vasodilator, with one study demonstrating that it can reduce noradrenaline-induced vasoconstriction by 35%.

Aside from being a potentially effective vasodilator, Amentoflavone has also been shown, in one study, to be 20 times more potent with Caffeine at causing Ca2+ (Calcium ion) release from the sarcoplasmic reticulum (SR) of rabbit skeletal muscle. The SR releases Calcium ions during muscle contraction, then absorbs them during muscle relaxation. Ultimately, quicker release of Ca2+ means quicker muscle contraction, a mechanism well-established with Caffeine at this point.

Currently, however, Amentoflavone remains under-researched in humans and until more research is conducted, it’s difficult to estimate the magnitude of these effects. For now we’d consider Amentoflavone a speculative, but very intriguing, addition to the Conqu3r Demigod Edition formula.

L-CITRULLINE:

Citrulline is a precursor to the amino acid Arginine, which is a precursor to Nitric Oxide (NO). As demonstrated in a 2007 study, supplemental Citrulline is significantly more effective at raising plasma Arginine than supplemental Arginine itself, and while results with Arginine are mixed, Citrulline has demonstrated clear efficacy as a performance enhancer. A 2002 study, published in the “British Journal of Sports Medicine” found that Citrulline Malate supplementation (6g/day for 15 days) significantly increased ATP production during exercise in healthy adult males.

A 2009 study, published in the “Journal of Free Radical Research”, found that 6 grams of Citrulline Malate given to male cyclists before a race increased “plasma Arginine availability for NO synthesis and PMNs priming for oxidative burst without oxidative damage”.

A 2010 study from “The Journal of Strength & Conditioning” found that 8g of Citrulline Malate was able to progressively increase the amount of reps performed later in the workout (by as much as 52%) and significantly reduced muscle soreness.

A 2011 study, the subjects of which were rats, found that supplemental Citrulline increased muscular contraction efficiency (less ATP was required for the same amount of power), in-line with the findings of the above-mentioned human study.

Most recently, a 2014 study from the “Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research” found that subjects who received 8g Citrulline prior to resistance training were able to perform more reps later in the workout, thus replicating the results of the prior 2010 study. Perhaps the most interesting aspect of this study was that the subjects were all advanced weight-lifters, meaning the benefits of Citrulline apply to everyone, not just beginners. Like the original Conqu3r formula, Olympus Labs has opted for a clinical 6g dose of Citrulline in Conqu3r Demigod Edition, and is one of the few brands to do so.

GLYCEROL:

On a cellular level, Glycerol has a propensity for water retention, and this is the property that underlies its performance implications.

A 1996 study, published in the “International Journal of Sports Medicine”, found that Glycerol supplementation prior to exercise increased endurance in cyclists. These findings were replicated in a 1999 study from the “European Journal of Applied Physiology and Occupational Physiology” in which pre-exercise Glycerol supplementation enhanced time performance (also in cyclists).

A 2003 study, published in the “Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise”, found that, while post-exercise Glycerol supplementation prevented exercise-induced dehydration, this had no impact on performance measures (compared to placebo).

Ultimately, the results of most of the research on Glycerol indicate that it can be an effective pump agent (due to water retention), but may only noticeably enhance performance (endurance not strength) during long-duration exercise where dehydration becomes a contributing factor.

Conqu3r Demigod Edition contains 2000mg of High-Yield Glycerol, a highly effective dose as far as most pre-workouts are concerned.

AGMATINE SULFATE:

The past few years, Agmatine has gone from a rare ingredient to pre-workout staple, though it remains seriously under-researched relative to other popular pre-workout ingredients. Agmatine has been demonstrated to up-regulate Endothelial Nitric Oxide (eNOS), sometimes referred to as the “good” NOS, while inhibiting the other NOS enzymes (the “bad” NOS) in vitro, but human studies are non-existent.

Standard doses of Agmatine range from 500-1000mg, with Conqu3r Demigod Edition coming in at the high end of that range.

L-TYROSINE:

Tyrosine is a non-essential amino acid which serves as a precursor to Dopamine and Noradrenaline (Catecholamines). Because of this relationship, it is commonly alleged (mostly by supplement companies) to increase levels of these neurotransmitters, which would ultimately convey some performance enhancement benefits. However, supplemental Tyrosine has failed to provide any noticeable performance enhancement when studied.

While Tyrosine may not increase workout performance directly, it has been shown to preserve cognitive function in the presence of an acute stressor, such as noise, cold exposure, and potentially, exercise. This is because, upon ingestion, Tyrosine forms a pool of substrate which can then be drawn from to produce more Dopamine/Noradrenaline when depletion occurs (in times of stress).

Given this role, we’d consider Tyrosine more of a “support” ingredient then a key ingredient, though it has become something of a pre-workouts staple itself. Conqu3r Demigod Edition contains 2g per serving, technically a clinical dose.

ACETYL-L-CARNITINE:

Carnitine has been the subject of numerous studies regarding its potential as both a performance enhancer and recovery agent.

A 2002 study, published in the “American Journal of Physiology-Endocrinology and Metabolism”, found that 2 grams of L-Carnitine (as L-Tartrate) significantly reduced markers of exercise-induced stress following squats in healthy adult males.

A 2007 study, published in the “Journal of Strength & Conditioning Research”, found that 1 and 2 grams of supplemental L-Carnitine (as L-Tartrate) effectively reduced markers of muscular damage following exercise in healthy humans. While the previously mentioned studies were unable to identify an exact mechanism of action, a 2008 study noted enhanced muscle oxygenation, citing this as a possible mechanism of action.

Carnitine, as either Acetyl-L-Carnitine or Glycine Propionyl L-Carnitine (GPLC) has been shown to increase Nitric Oxide and plasma Nitrate levels at 1-3 grams, meaning Conqu3r Demigod Edition contains an effective dose. It’s not clear why Olympus chose to list Carnitine in the “Focus Intensifying Matrix” because, while it does have implications for cognitive enhancement as well, it is much more proven in the areas of physical performance.

ALPHA GPC:

Alpha GPC is considered one of the most bioavailable Choline sources and is generally used to increase Acetylcholine levels in the brain, which can enhance cognitive ability. However, it also has some direct (though under-researched) physical performance enhancement implications as well.

A 2008 study, published in the “Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition”, found that oral supplementation of 600mg of Alpha GPC (as AlphaSize) increased power output by an average of 14% in resistance trained males, measured by bench throws.

Although Alpha GPC is present in the original Conqu3r formula, Olympus Labs has added 100mg more (a 66% increase) in the Conqu3r Demigod Edition. Alpha GPC is, in our view, a highly under-utilized ingredient in pre-workout supplements, probably because it tends to be quite expensive.

HUPERZINE A:

Huperzine A is an Acetylcholinesterase inhibitor which means it blocks the enzyme that breaks down the Acetylcholine, indirectly increasing levels in the brain. Acetylcholine controls skeletal muscle and is largely responsible for the ‘mind-muscle connection’. In addition to controlling the muscles, Acetylcholine is also involved in learning, memory, decision making, and various other cognitive functions. The combination of Alpha GPC (mentioned above) and Huperzine-A makes adds a cholinergic-signaling dimension to Conqu3r Demigod Edition that is generally lacking in pre-workouts today.

CAFFEINE ANHYDROUS:

Caffeine is one of the most heavily researched ergogenic aid, probably because it is also happens to be Planet Earth’s favorite drug (most widely consumed psychoactive substance in the world), and all the research indicates it is one of the most effective.

Caffeine triggers the release of Noradrenaline which directly increases perceived energy, focus, and mood. As mentioned in the Amentoflavone section, Caffeine can enhance muscle contractibility quite significantly, offering a physical mechanism by which it can directly increase strength.

Because Caffeine is so popular outside of the supplement industry (Coffee, Tea, Soda, etc.), tolerance levels fluctuate from person to person. Conqu3r Demigod Edition contains 200mg per serving which, for the average (non-caffeine drinking) person to feel noticeable more alert and focused. However, individuals who consume large amounts of Caffeine on regular basis may not feel much at all.

HIGENAMINE:
Higenamine has been shown (in vitro) to be a beta-adrenergic receptor agonist as well as a weak alpha-adrenergic receptor antagonist, the same basic mechanisms of action by which Synephrine and Ephedrine work. By activating beta-receptors while simultaneously (albeit weakly) blocking alpha-receptors, Higenamine can potentiate the effects of Noradrenaline-releasing agents such as Caffeine.

Common doses are anywhere from 20-40mg with Olympus electing to use the high-end of that range (40mg) in the Conqu3r Demigod Edition formula.

SO, DOES CONQU3R DEMIGOD EDITION WORK?

While Conqu3r Demigod Edition does contain some stimulants (Caffeine and Higenamine), the emphasis is clearly on the pump dimension of the product. With several pump-inducing ingredients, all dosed very effectively, Conqu3r Demigod Edition is actually one of the best pump-based pre-workouts we’ve reviewed to date. Anyone looking for a pump-focused formula with a light, but still noticeable, stimulant presence should definitely consider Conqu3r Demigod Edition.

Editor's Thoughts:
It looks like Olympus Labs has hit another homerun with Conqu3r Demigod Edition. You'll probably see this one pop up on our Best Pump-Based PWOs list, even though it isn't stim-free like they tend to be.


Product: Conqu3r Demi...
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Rating: *****
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Relative Value ****.5* - 4.5
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goes live Sunday night on NutraPlanet?
 
I hope so. I need this and XI-KT + V1tality
 
Hey everyone who won this contest or had someone who won give you one of their bottles, please resend me your addresses and your preference of flavor and stim or non stim. I just went to put all of them in an email to the big man and for some reason I don't have ANY of my PM's that were sent before Friday... Sorry for the inconvenience I have no clue where they all went.
 
Hey everyone who won this contest or had someone who won give you one of their bottles, please resend me your addresses and your preference of flavor and stim or non stim. I just went to put all of them in an email to the big man and for some reason I don't have ANY of my PM's that were sent before Friday... Sorry for the inconvenience I have no clue where they all went.

Just resent them.
 
Hey everyone who won this contest or had someone who won give you one of their bottles, please resend me your addresses and your preference of flavor and stim or non stim. I just went to put all of them in an email to the big man and for some reason I don't have ANY of my PM's that were sent before Friday... Sorry for the inconvenience I have no clue where they all went.

pm sent.
 
Hey everyone who won this contest or had someone who won give you one of their bottles, please resend me your addresses and your preference of flavor and stim or non stim. I just went to put all of them in an email to the big man and for some reason I don't have ANY of my PM's that were sent before Friday... Sorry for the inconvenience I have no clue where they all went.
pmd
 
No dude, I'm taking your info lol. This is for the guessing game winners hahaha! You're my personal giveaway lol

haha I even sadi that in my PM to kleen that I wasn't sure... told him he could send me whatever he wants ;)
 
haha I even sadi that in my PM to kleen that I wasn't sure... told him he could send me whatever he wants ;)
He better not lol! You trying to squeeze two tubs out? ???
 
Jk lol
 
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