which N.O. is preferd?

which one?

  • jacked

    Votes: 17 42.5%

  • white flood

    Votes: 10 25.0%

  • shotgun

    Votes: 13 32.5%
  • Total voters
    40
There all great products, and if your looking for great pre workout supplements, you left out a big one ( JP8 ). Also super pump works wonders for me in the strength department. White flood and Shotgun were also great products, but didnt compare to JP8. Have yet to try jacked, but ordered it last night.
 
All 3 are pretty solid products, i think you would be impressed with any of them. Prior to my Jack3d addiction, White Flood or Nimbus Blast was my pre-workout of choice.
 
Iv done both before so I get some aminos but the focus and intensity of jacked.
 
I really like GLPC. That is the only amino that increases NO production.
 
well i have used white flood and shotgun v2 but more so wanted to know how jacked compared and plus how people feel about v3 shotgun
 
Did you see the study as far as NO production goes? Look at the link 1st. I use Jacked for energy and focus not for NO production.
 
yes, some studies are saying glyco-carn is the only NO inhibitor but why do other supplements work then. If i owned a company i'd make up a study to show that my supplement is the only one that works. I have no experience with it but i also have tried almost every pre-workout supplement out there and the majority still give you a pump, so does that mean they don't work? Be careful with studies as they may be bought and paid for.
 
GPLC is the only compound ever that's proven to elevate plasma NO levels in human .
 
punthra said:
yes, some studies are saying glyco-carn is the only NO inhibitor but why do other supplements work then. If i owned a company i'd make up a study to show that my supplement is the only one that works. I have no experience with it but i also have tried almost every pre-workout supplement out there and the majority still give you a pump, so does that mean they don't work? Be careful with studies as they may be bought and paid for.
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Sugar can do that i.e maltodextrin etc. any time you release inslin you will feel full. Glyco carn's study is peer reviewd. Watch. More and more companys will be using GLPC and get rid of arginine. Look at pre surge. Life extentions product.
 
they said that tribulus was the next wave of natural test booster, but how many people do you see purchasing it now? Don't believe the hype yet, it can't be that great yet as Muscletech hasn't stole the idea yet!!!! I'm not saying it doesn't work but on the flipside of the coin how can you say that proven NO products don't work? They said that creatine was dangerous at one time, but were they right? **** no!!!! Your acting like the type of guy that crappy supplement companies love. Have you tried other NO products? Who did this study and can you prove that it wasn't bought and paid for?
Glyco-carn has been out for a while now and none of the big boys in the industry have picked this item up for there supps. Why is that? Are they all dumb? Time will tell whether glyco-carn is the future but don't tell people that proven supplements don't work just because you don't use them. Should you really be telling people how great a supplement is when you can't even make your prohormone cycle work for you!!!! I'm sorry for the rant but misdirection from someone with a limited knowledge base is pointless. It's like the blind leading the blind on a cliff. Stupid and dangerous!!!!!!!!!!
 
punthra said:
Have you tried other NO products? Who did this study and can you prove that it wasn't bought and paid for?
Glyco-carn has been out for a while now and none of the big boys in the industry have picked this item up for there supps. Why is that? Are they all dumb? Time will tell whether glyco-carn is the future but don't tell people that proven supplements don't work just because you don't use them.
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I have used many NO claiming products. No xplode both versions, v12, v12 turbo, v12 magnum , No shotgun, nanovapor, plasma jet, jacked, and the liast goes on and on. Non of witch made me feel pumped from the arginine or amino but more because of the sugar and inslin spiked.

You say non of the major companies use it yet Life extension does which has been in biz for 25 years, Jarrow Formulas, PreSurge from AEN, Champion Nutrition. As for studies you can go to pub med and check it out. It is the future because more and more companies are switching to it. Creatine can be dangerous. Creatine, can include dehydration, because the water in your body is being more focused on your muscles. Creatine can also lead to kindey stones. Endless it is absorbed 100% i.e micronized or nano creatine, or con crete. Creatinine is also the by product if creatine is not used 100%. I know we draw blood all the time and I have seen it.
 
punthra said:
yes, some studies are saying glyco-carn is the only NO inhibitor but why do other supplements work then. If i owned a company i'd make up a study to show that my supplement is the only one that works. I have no experience with it but i also have tried almost every pre-workout supplement out there and the majority still give you a pump, so does that mean they don't work? Be careful with studies as they may be bought and paid for.
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Not only that, but its how the study is thought about.
A scientific study only states that what has happened in a controlled environment. When you here that, "According to this new scientific study "so-and-so" product is the best on the market... Well that doesnt mean anything.

A lot of people think NO products are BullSht, and if they are... Im still getting great results of the placebo, so Ill keep buying them!
 
i'm with you sid, i guess i've been getting an insulin spike not a pump. I guess placebos have been helping me grow for years. by the way DJ none of those companies you've mentioned are considered the big boys of the supplement industry. by the way IRONMAN magazine did supplement review on glyco-carn, and even they say that there is no proof of how effective it is. and guess what? they used scientific journal references. and if creatine is so bad why do you use it. thanks for the old wives tales about creatine. You should go to musculardevelopment.com and listen to the article by will brink. He states that creatine monohydrate is the most effective and companies are just using "scientific studies" to make more money. furthermore why do hospitals use argnine as vasodialator on some patients? Anything can be dangerous when used improperly!!!! Do you know what else is dangerous? Using prohormones when you don't have a damn clue about them, but you wouldn't know anything about that, would you?
 
I cant vote cause N.O. has lost its effects for me. Just plain out gone, even when Ive used reset A.D. Would benadryl aid in replenishing my receptors?
 
i did not vote because i only tried white flood. I liked white flood but i honestly have to say assault is my vote, it is a creatine product too but besides my rep status for MP I honestly feel it is the best prewo overall (at least for the ones i have tried). Jacked i hear has a high stim feeling and good focus too but i dont like to be stimmed out at the gym personally unless im really draggin ass that day. The NO shotgun looks like it has a good profile too but i havent got to try that although i would like to.
 
I Have tried white Flood and Jacked. Love them both, you cant go wrong with either. I dont know the third one......JP8 spose to be off the chain too, but I havent tried that either. Big $$$ to import all this stuff for us Aussies:D
 
quakebks said:
well i have used white flood and shotgun v2 but more so wanted to know how jacked compared and plus how people feel about v3 shotgun
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haven't used Jacked or Wflood.. when ever this NO Xplode tub is up i'll order Jacked & then WFlood.

NOShotgun V3? I liked it. so I voted for it. tastes better then V1.
 
punthra said:
i'm with you sid, i guess i've been getting an insulin spike not a pump. I guess placebos have been helping me grow for years. by the way DJ none of those companies you've mentioned are considered the big boys of the supplement industry. by the way IRONMAN magazine did supplement review on glyco-carn, and even they say that there is no proof of how effective it is.
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I am not saying your right or they are wrong etc. I am just stating some facts that more and more companies are using and will be using glyco-carn. BTW arginine does not make you grow. A complete protein does. Also insulin is great for growth. I would like to see the study from ironman so that I can read it.
 
I have had good results from Labrada's N.O. product Super Charge. I personally think its underlooked and under rated.
 
why do all the supplements that you talk about also contain argnine, djbombsquad? i checked glypro xts by champion nutrition and it's ingredient profile states that it has all the same ingredients as other NO products. if these ingredients don't work, then why is this company using them? by your theory i could be growing if i eat sugar cause it causes an insulin spike! As for pre-surge it uses glycerol monosterate and creatine which are both proven vasodilators. Perhaps you should check your ingredients before you decide that one thing is the be all and end all. I respect that you do some research but why are you giving advice when you don't look after yourself properly.
 
oh yeah, i throw my vote in for Anadraulic State as it gives pumps like no other. and no it doesn't have glyco-carn, but it still works. Check the numbers on my logs if you don't believe me. i guess it must have imaginary placebo effect cause only glyco-carn can stimulate NO! LMFAO!
 
i loved it but i haven't tried assault though. perhaps that will be my next purchase. let me know what you think of AS.
 
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