which fat loss?
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Rosie Chee
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I have used all of them. Briefly:
Napalm:
This was the least effective fat loss topical for me. Also caused me to retain quite a bit of water - that did not go away a few days after I had stopped using it.
Dermatherm Target:
I found the original DermaTherm to be more effective than DermaTherm Target.
Eviscerate:
Of the 3 options you have listed, Eviscerate is IMO the best choice, and, with the proper nutrition and training, should give you the best results. I am actually using Eviscerate yet again, for my competition preparation.
Bear in mind that everyone is different and every product does not have the same effects for everyone, and therefore, what I found the best and effective, others may disagree, due to their experiences. At the end of the day, you can only try one and see how it goes. In all honesty, if you're lean enough, and your diet and training are on target, then you are going to get and see results using any of Napalm, DermaTherm Target, or Eviscerate.
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rulk22
Well-known member
Me and my wife are both using Derma Therm Target in conjunction with Primordial Performance's Fat Loss Stack. We've worked out and ate super clean before, but the results were really slow to come by, even with the use of thermogenics. Two weeks into the FLS and we can see pretty good improvements already.
Adding a thermo to this is a great idea as well. As for the other 2 products, im sorry ive never even heard of them, let alone try them.
But yeah, bottom line is Derma Therm works pretty good.
Adding a thermo to this is a great idea as well. As for the other 2 products, im sorry ive never even heard of them, let alone try them.
But yeah, bottom line is Derma Therm works pretty good.
Young Gotti
Well-known member
i've also ran dermatherm target isn't as good as the old dermatherm...i'm about to run out of a bottle now, been using it for like 2 months now...not really any difference but i used it while bulking which shouldn't be done, i was hoping it would allow me to bulk and keep the fat to a minimal...didn't find so much luck though....i love the smell though and it wasn't bad for moisturizer...didn't dry my skin out at all
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Where's the "other" option?
ALPHA-T2
Too much synergy to pass up...
ALPHA-T2
Too much synergy to pass up...
JN230
Well-known member
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
NOT TOPICAL BRO but thanks for spamming my thread anyway
Honestly, somehow I completely missed that word lol
Why do you want a topical so bad?
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
It can be site specific...
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
The original Dermatherm was stronger than Dermatherm Target; this is because the original contained mild pH's which increased the thermogenic effect. To get similar results you could stack Dermatherm Target with a low dose of Dermacrine, I normally just use a full dose though.
The main ingredient in Dermatherm Target is Theophylline. It has been shown in studies to reduce waist circumference by almost twice as much in comparison to using nothing, when applied topically. The study I read showed an 11 cm loss in waist circumference in comparison to the 5 cm lost by the placebo group. Both groups were on a calorie deficient diet and doing low intensity cardio a few times a week; walking.
The idea behind Theophylline is that it frees up fatty tissue to be used for energy first. If you are not on a calorie deficient diet, it will just redistribute the fat.
Here is the study I read and the reason Dermatherm Target is great for Invalid Link Removed.
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Edit: Not sure if that link is working for you guys or not. When I click it the page doesn't fully load. You can copy that url from the browser and enter it into a new browser and it will show the study.
flightposite
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if diet and training are in order i would go with dermatherm along with a oral thermo would be great. i havent used Alpha-T2 but i could see how that would stack great with Dermatherm Target.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Most topicals simply take the water out of the area that it is applied, giving the impression that fat as been lost there.
While this is beneficial when you're taking it, as soon as you stop it will go back to normal.
A lot comes into play. Whether the skin is acting as a reservoir...how fast the ingredients are getting into the bloodstream, etc. As soon as the ingredients are in the bloodstream its no different than if you took them orally.
I think a more effective route would be to target the mechanisms and receptors in, say, belly fat (A2 receptors).
This is a much more practical approach to targeted fat loss. Ingredients to look for would be rauwolscine hcl aka alpha-yohimbine.
I believe the cort blocker in LX has also shown visceral fat loss as well.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
I agree. You get the best of both worlds.
In this case I would stack the alpha-t2 with dermatherm since it does have solid ingredients and decent doses. It will do its job.
I wasn't aware there was a new one or old one...not sure which one I used but I liked it for the fact of getting water out of my stomach area for beach season
monstermash
Well-known member
eviscerate is good but be ready for the burn. i haven't tried the other two.
JN230
Well-known member
well i want a topical because its in addition to a regular thermogenic and diet approach but im very curious about results ont hem as it could be awesome not to mention my GF holds fat in her legs but has no reason to sue a thermogenic and i wont put her on a AI which i think would clean up her legs.....
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
With Dermatherm Target you actually retain some water while using it. Once you stop use you actually lose the extra water.
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
now is she upset about the fat on her legs or do you have to rub in on while she's asleep?
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
Yea...sticky business when you get into fatloss on girls...especially if its cellulite. Stuff like birth control and all that effects them so easily. I wouldn't do anything hormonal either.
Get her to put on some dermatherm. Tell her its lotion
. She would benefit from it for sure...but again I would still stack it with even 1-2 caps of AT2 since women have amazing feedback from the 3,3-T2 ingredient.
nattydisaster
PESCIENCE.com
hahaha i was wondering the same thing
JN230
Well-known member
ya she hates her legs, but cant lift right now, its amazxing can eat crap all day just gets soft, not fat, shes gota a track athlete body, maybe one day you can meet her>...............
shes down with it and is currently trying DermaTherm and likes it but as with 99% of people espec women she isnt consistent,
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
Well if you two ever make it to Portland let me know. I'm always down to meet our customers.
JN230
Well-known member
cali isnt too far and i have an aunt and cousin in rogue river
UKStrength
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There's 54 pumps per container mate, so at 2 pumps per day you're looking at 27 days or ~month of Invalid Link Removed goodness
Jimbo15
Primordial Performance Rep
There's 54 pumps per container mate, so at 2 pumps per day you're looking at 27 days or ~month of Invalid Link Removed goodness
Ah silly Rick, you misread the bottle. 54 applications of two pumps. So it will last 54 days, almost eight weeks.
BBB
Well-known member
My wife and I both tried DermaTherm Target. She used it on a calorie restricted diet and I on a maintenance diet. Neither of us we very impressed with out results. The instructions say it must be used on a calorie restricted diet, well all fat lose products work on a calorie restricted diet. I have also used Naplam. IMO it is worthless.