I was a bit apprehensive to try Viron it because I have used Pasak Bumi 50:1 and experienced raised cortisol levels. I read the write up of the lj 100 tongkat extract that the actives in tongkat ali increases CYP 17/ 17-hydroxylase/17,20 lyase enzyme activity which increases the rate at which pregnalone and 17 OH pregnalone converts into DHEA and testosterone. I cant help but feel their is a spill off in ACTH or some cortisol related corticosteroid
By their research they claim that Tongkat lowers cortisol but I do not find that to be the case especially when insomnia is a reported side effect in high dosages among users. I was taking a dose of 1 400mg capsule of 50:1 and every time I take it I feel my cortisol levels get high and can't sleep in the night. I had many trial and error bouts and I know for sure its the pasak bumi's 50:1 tongkat. I sleep well if I do not take it.
I know that the Viron tongkat,pasak and LJ 100 is supposed to be different, one is extracted for active chemicals and the other is a concentrated extract but I feel their wont be a difference. I know some users may not get the same sides I get, but I want to know if other users. experience raised cortisol levels with tongkat, particularly the Viron product, at low dosages.