Yeah that guy I remember also! Although I'm sure there was an equivalent EvoMuse product I spotted more recently. I'll see if I can dig it up.
Regularly, although I'm pretty stim tolerant. It did result in some bouts of inverted penis syndrome on occasion.
That's the one! Well remembered.
How did 240 dmaa with 400 caffeine feel? Anxiety? Palpations? Etc?
Glad you handled it well but that seems dangerous to me. Be careful
Glad you handled it well but that seems dangerous to me. Be careful
Agreed, there is absolutely a point of diminishing return with DMAA. Although this may be particular to the individual user.
Yeah, any exogenous beta receptor agonist will cause downregulation. Since clen is targeting the same receptors, the less you have the less effective it will be. You may even get competitive inhibition if you're taking them simultaneously. I don't know the relative activity of any of these but for example say DMHA doesn't activate the receptor as strongly as clen if you have them both in your system at the same time, DMHA will be occupying receptors that clen could be activating with a stronger response. Like you said, sometimes less is more.
Maybe companies are underdosed or cutting it to make more money. Who knows though
I don't believe that at all.
DMAA is cheap as hell. You can get a kilo of it from China for 150 bucks, larger amounts that supp companies can afford would be cheaper still. Even at a high dose like 100mg, 1gram would be 10 doses. So a kilo would be 10,000 that's enough for 27 years worth of workouts if you trained every day! Just to put things in perspective. I'm sure companies would rather have a more effective product than under dose and lose sales.
But these companies making it probably are taking shortcuts or something. I love dmaa and wish I could find dmaa caps so I could add to any pwo or afternoon pick me up
As discussed earlier it depends what else you've been subjecting your receptors to over those YEARS. You don't have a DMAA receptor you have beta adrenergic receptors and other compounds such as DMHA, AMP citrate, norcoclaurine, octopamine and many other popular pre workout stimulants as well as some off label meds like clen and Albuterol all fit these beta receptors. If you've taken any of these in the interim them your body will have responded by downregulating your beta receptors. Thus making DMAA less effective for you.
Just buy some of the raw ingredients and make your own. Like I said it's cheap to buy in bulk. Not sure if you can still get it in the US, you could until recently, but you can still import a lifetime supply from China for the price of a few tubs of dust or jack'd up.
Yeah man dmaa is a sketchy topic here in the states with the whole court case. Would not want to get caught with raws from China but dmma caps would sell fast.
Yeah, I'm not sure of the moa here off the top of my head but it's been clinically proven, the paper is cited in this article. Here's an excerpt, I'll link the full article below:
Hahaha! Nice try! I thought that statement might raise a few eyebrows. Seems like it couldn't be true but the info is there. Notice how I prefixed it with "supposed to be" just in case my memory had failed me. Luckily it hadn't and my credibility remains intact.
Yeah I wonder....
Glad you handled it well but that seems dangerous to me. Be careful
That is the issue right there. Cheap raws.
No need to wonder, that's what I took. I certainly didn't stack it with another properly dosed fat burner though. Just 200mg of caffeine as I mentioned. I'm not sure what went in hydroxycut hardcore back then I'm sure it's been reformulated a couple of times by now but likelihood is it also contained a beta agonist of some description. Also, if it had any kind of CYP enzyme inhibitor in it, which many of these formulas do (bioperine etc.) What you took would have been metabolised much less rapidly by the liver making much more of what you took bioavailable. So it's an apples to oranges comparison you're making.
