What products would you like to see us make?

A good strong non methyl PH would be nice. Something as strong as M drol but again non methyl.

Id like to see a Real Sarm released like S4 or similair

LOL, Something with the strength of tren 100mg EOD but without the nightsweats, rages, and shutdown.

And enlarge my balls, lower cholesterol, shrink prostate, and not efect libido.:fingersx:

Miracles don't exist :lmao:
 
BTW, i've a question about 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane-3,3-azine (i asked this in others forums but noboy answered):

Dymethazine = azinated SD = 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3,3'-azine

According to Vida, DMZ a:a is 210/95, and Vida says 2a-substitutions rise the a:a ratio of the compound (pages 46-49),... BUT in page 90 he says 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane-3,3-azine (DMZ without 2a-methyl) is 300/20!!! so it possess a way better a:a ratio than DMZ

DMZ is 2a, so why in Vida 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane-3,3-azine (DMZ without 2a-methylation) has a higher a:a ratio than DMZ?
 
How about methyl tren. An international UG lab is having good results with it. Doesn't seem as toxic as some people suggest.
 
How about methyl tren. An international UG lab is having good results with it. Doesn't seem as toxic as some people suggest.

wtf? and international UG labs have sucess with test prop and dbol too :fool2: so does that mean CEL can produce and sell it too :think: :wtf:

...yah CEL, i think you guys should come out with real anavar for cheap and forget about these legal designers :rolleyes: :trout:
 
wtf? and international UG labs have sucess with test prop and dbol too :fool2: so does that mean CEL can produce and sell it too :think: :wtf:

...yah CEL, i think you guys should come out with real anavar for cheap and forget about these legal designers :rolleyes: :trout:

Yeah lol, I wasn't really serious with my post. But I didn't think methyl tren is scheduled, so it would be just as legal as SD...
 
BTW, i've a question about 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane-3,3-azine (i asked this in others forums but noboy answered):

Dymethazine = azinated SD = 2a,17a-dimethyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol-3,3'-azine

According to Vida, DMZ a:a is 210/95, and Vida says 2a-substitutions rise the a:a ratio of the compound (pages 46-49),... BUT in page 90 he says 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane-3,3-azine (DMZ without 2a-methyl) is 300/20!!! so it possess a way better a:a ratio than DMZ

DMZ is 2a, so why 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane-3,3-azine (DMZ without 2a-methylation) has a higher a:a ratio?

so that hormone would produce awesome results and have very little or no effect at all to peoples hair, especially to those with mpb.
 
Was this mentioned?
17a-methyl-etioallocholan-17b-ol-3-hydroxyimine
 
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Early feedback has been really good. I want to see some bloodwork for liver enzymes personally.
 
how about a dymethazine or the one clone?

I would prefer something more innovative, not another clone.

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And what's the point to make a clone of an existing compound that is produced by a company with a good reputation (iForce or AN)? Why buy the clone if the original is "legit" and the original company is know that use good raws?

Make a new hormonal (a really new hormonal) will give to CEL more reputation that make another clone of an already existing compound.
 
I would prefer something more innovative, not another clone.

Maybe something like this: Invalid Link Removed

And what's the point to make a clone of an existing compound that is produced by a company with a good reputation (iForce or AN)? Why buy the clone if the original is "legit" and the original company is know that use good raws?

Make a new hormonal (a really new hormonal) will give to CEL more reputation that make another clone of an already existing compound.

The problem with new things is sourcing the raws, proper dosing, etc. We may do some new items at some point, but we are open to all ideas.

It is likely that you will see us get more innovative in the non-hormonal side of the market than the ph side.
 
The problem with new things is sourcing the raws, proper dosing, etc. We may do some new items at some point, but we are open to all ideas.

It is likely that you will see us get more innovative in the non-hormonal side of the market than the ph side.



Being innovative with PH's is more risky too. They can actually mess you up a bit
 
I would prefer something more innovative, not another clone.

Maybe something like this: Invalid Link Removed

And what's the point to make a clone of an existing compound that is produced by a company with a good reputation (iForce or AN)? Why buy the clone if the original is "legit" and the original company is know that use good raws?

Make a new hormonal (a really new hormonal) will give to CEL more reputation that make another clone of an already existing compound.

i agree but it doesnt have to be completly new why not take somthing old and make it new and improved like for example a new delivery system like liposomal they already use it for vit c to increase absorbtion.
 
BTW, now that iForce has "re-discovered" de "azine-technology", i've found another interesting azinated compound in Vida, similar to DMZ:

17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane-3,3-azine

Its dymethazine but without the 2a-methyl, and according to Vida (page 90) it possess 300% anabolic activity and 20% androgenic activity than Methyltestosterone when administered orally (in Vida DMZ is only 210%, 95% QUOTE]
Dimethazine!...nice work fellas, I'd love to try the ph versions of the more obscure designers out there
having suggested
1)methyl stenbolone already or similar like
2)methyl-primobolan,
3) 6 methyl primobolan acetate for us with damaged livers)
Also, how about a tren/progestin derivative...like
4)1,6 di-methyl trenbolone acetate. or a precursor to
5)6,17 Di-methyl DHTor
6) 1,6 di-methy Dihydro boldenone acteate...not liver toxic like M1T but hopfully similar effect...or would that be similar to methyl sten and 6-methyl primo?
7)if a bolasterone precurser is do-able then that would be great, but with 4ad banned I guess its not possible? or can you clever chemists come up with a way to use our liver and gut enzymes to "create" a testosterone molecule from a legal "inert" parent molecule?
8) would a modification to the 11 position to any of these molecules have an anti cortisol effect?
 
great to see the new products. Very interested in both. Few questions though...when will they be available at nutra? How many grams in each? Any chance of putting form and triol in the same bottle? That's something I'd love to use all the time, triol powder is hard to find

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I just saw the two new TD products. Are these both at least 30 day supplies?

Looks good and looking forward to seeing more new products on the horizon!
 
great to see the new products. Very interested in both. Few questions though...when will they be available at nutra? How many grams in each? Any chance of putting form and triol in the same bottle? That's something I'd love to use all the time, triol powder is hard to find

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Should be available at nutra within a couple weeks. As I explained in their individual threads, there big batch will be here in two to three weeks. We had a pre-shipment from the batch arrive early but it sold out almost immediately.

3 grams formestane in the bottle.

3 grams BAET in Suppress-C.

Doubt we would ever combine them in the same product due to dosage guidelines.
 
I just saw the two new TD products. Are these both at least 30 day supplies?

Looks good and looking forward to seeing more new products on the horizon!

Suppresss-C is a 30 day supply.

Formestane is a 30 day supply at typical dosing. Individual dosing can vary.
 
don't know if you have it already or plan on it but what about a bold200 clone as i see there are only 2 or so others out there and on the expensive side. Maybe dose it a bit higher so you dont have to take so many pills..
 
don't know if you have it already or plan on it but what about a bold200 clone as i see there are only 2 or so others out there and on the expensive side. Maybe dose it a bit higher so you dont have to take so many pills..

i have a sneaky suspicion that u will see this soon.it should be EQ-ually as good.
 
i have a sneaky suspicion that u will see this soon.it should be EQ-ually as good.

i hope so, CEL is a good brand in my opinion. I do like the iforce bold200 but to run it at a decent dose and for 8 or so weeks its expensive as s**t. Wonder if it cost that much to make it or its that high cause there are only 2 companies that sell it..
 
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