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Any more votes/interest in the Deca PH anyone? Id really like to see this one come to fruition with its widespread benifits.....

Hopefully it could be done in a cost effective manner too....


Yea I'd like to have this available. I can see some real uses for it.
 
This be a great suggestion too. IMO the extra cost of making a dermal would even out cuz you wouldn't need as high of a dose :thumbsup:

Transdermal prostanozol and a dermal pro-deca :) I think a dermal M-TST clone would also be awesome - a perfect addition to any oral cycle. I have unopened bottles I can send to get analyzed to see WTF it really is :food:

I always wondered how a transdermal Ecdysterone would work since it's oral bio-availability has always been a problem.

I doubt we would do any dermal ph's due to possible legalities. I do like the ideas though and wish we could.
 
PH of Deca wud be cool.

if ur worried about legalities w/ dermal phs, jus produce the compounds in powder form.

clients then can choose which route they would like to take, oral or dermal.

w/ that in mind... i wud luv to see another PH like 4AD. a compound that wud eventually convert to Testosterone.

Competitive Edge Labs 4-AD (capped & powder) ;)
 
PH of Deca wud be cool.

if ur worried about legalities w/ dermal phs, jus produce the compounds in powder form.

clients then can choose which route they would like to take, oral or dermal.

w/ that in mind... i wud luv to see another PH like 4AD. a compound that wud eventually convert to Testosterone.

Competitive Edge Labs 4-AD (capped & powder) ;)

Hehe, what's in it for us selling you our raws ;)
 
Hehe, what's in it for us selling you our raws ;)

hehe $$$ :) sell it in a reasonable large bulk to make a profit...
jus so the dermal route wud be possible :)

but i wud luv to see this product available one day, in any form... :)

Competitive Edge Labs 4-AD :thumbsup: u cud even call it...

"Competitive Edge Labs 4A-DROL",
"Competitive Edge Labs 4-DROL" or
"Competitive Edge Labs IV-DROL".


i like "Competitive Edge Labs IV-DROL" the best.

now ive gav u the product idea & name... @no cost... so now go get it manufactured! hehe
 
I doubt we would be able to sell powdered hormonal raws. Its a good idea, but liability wise, I dont think we would.

Wish 4AD was still legal and you'd be on to something :D
 
unless its starts off as a legal compound then 2-4 steps down it eventually converts to testosterone hehe kinda like the new ergo formula w/1-AD.

sorry @the present time i dun hav any suggestions to make a legal compound convert to testosterone hehe:P


other then that maybe sum 1-AD (new formula)

personally i dun like 1-TEST becuz its a libido killer i wud rather prefer a PH that converts & converts untill its finally Testosterone if it cud be dun legally

other compounds i wud like to see from CEL wud be

1,4 AD BOLD

11-OXO

3-AD

Methyl Masterdrol
 
unless its starts off as a legal compound then 2-4 steps down it eventually converts to testosterone hehe kinda like the new ergo formula w/1-AD.

sorry @the present time i dun hav any suggestions to make a legal compound convert to testosterone hehe:P


other then that maybe sum 1-AD (new formula)

personally i dun like 1-TEST becuz its a libido killer i wud rather prefer a PH that converts & converts untill its finally Testosterone if it cud be dun legally

other compounds i wud like to see from CEL wud be

1,4 AD BOLD

11-OXO

3-AD

Methyl Masterdrol

Ummmmm you do realize this is and has been out for a LONG time now and has and is completely legal, you can by it capped in 50mg-GRAM amounts for CHEAP..... its.... uh oh....

DHEA.

problem is with this compuound (and its intermediate steps and target compound) is its VERY susceptable to conversion to estrogen and also DHT via Aramatase activity and 5a Reductase respectively so you better take a generous amount of 5a reductase blockers and AI's in order to make it worth while or all you test will be spent unwantedly. not to mention many believe that the parent compound DHEA is susceptable to conversion straight to est without the action of aromatse so have fun with that one.
 
Ummmmm you do realize this is and has been out for a LONG time now and has and is completely legal, you can by it capped in 50mg-GRAM amounts for CHEAP..... its.... uh oh....

DHEA.

problem is with this compuound (and its intermediate steps and target compound) is its VERY susceptable to conversion to estrogen and also DHT via Aramatase activity and 5a Reductase respectively so you better take a generous amount of 5a reductase blockers and AI's in order to make it worth while or all you test will be spent unwantedly. not to mention many believe that the parent compound DHEA is susceptable to conversion straight to est without the action of aromatse so have fun with that one.


im fully aware of DHEA. Its a great compound for use on off days during a pulse & for pct.


im looking for sumthing along the lines of the Original 4-AD which
converts to Testosterone which is is preban stuff b4 ur time.

i highly doubt the DHEA u are referring to can be compared to a injectable test cycle.

4-AD Trandermal (&maybe also oral) when compared to a Injectable Test Cycle. People have reported that they cudnt tell the different between the 2 cycles except for the way it was administered & frequency of dosages.

i luvd 4-AD before the ban... 2 bad it wasnt around for u to try out legally ;)
 
im fully aware of DHEA. Its a great compound for use on off days during a pulse & for pct.


im looking for sumthing along the lines of the Original 4-AD which
converts to Testosterone which is is preban stuff b4 ur time.

i highly doubt the DHEA u are referring to can be compared to a injectable test cycle.

4-AD Trandermal (&maybe also oral) when compared to a Injectable Test Cycle. People have reported that they cudnt tell the different between the 2 cycles except for the way it was administered & frequency of dosages.

i luvd 4-AD before the ban... 2 bad it wasnt around for u to try out legally ;)


B4 Ur time???? what???? im sorry im RUNNING 4-AD NOW. and it was obtained PREBAN. thanks Ive been in the game longer then you thiink just cause of my join date, dont get all high and mighty and dont act like I dont know what 4-AD is, you obviouslly take DHEA not knowing wht IT is, you wanted something that converts in two steps to Test and that is DHEA.
here check the attached chart and learn.
 

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i highly doubt the DHEA u are referring to can be compared to a injectable test cycle.

4-AD Trandermal (&maybe also oral) when compared to a Injectable Test Cycle. People have reported that they cudnt tell the different between the 2 cycles except for the way it was administered & frequency of dosages.

now also if I take out your degrading and haughty comments and answer you directly (or if you just read my previous post thouroghly) youll se that you can increase the efficacy of DHEA if you merely take the steps to increase its conversion rates to test, you will not get a mg/mg comparison to 4-AD ever the same as you wont get a mg/mg comparison of 4-AD to test, the dose has to be increased and at the least you need to add an AI to avoid unwanted excess est and increase the amount of the target compound TEST.

poopypants said:
problem is with this compound (and its intermediate steps and target compound) is its VERY susceptable to conversion to estrogen and also DHT via Aramatase activity and 5a Reductase respectively so you better take a generous amount of 5a reductase blockers and AI's in order to make it worth while or all you test will be spent unwantedly. not to mention many believe that the parent compound DHEA is susceptable to conversion straight to est without the action of aromatse so have fun with that one.

now good luck finding anything else out there that has a two step conversion to test thats legal.
 
There will doubtfully ever be a legal PH to Test as efficient as 4AD Diol IMO, sadly. I wish there were :o (insert Methoxy-TST)
 
poopypants, my reply was not intended to place myself above u & i feel sincere that u understood me in that manner...

i am glad 2 kno that u hav experience w/a amazing PH imho such as 4-AD, its my fav PH. i thought that u were not that familiar w/ 4-AD which i was mistaken, becuz i was thinkin u might of been 20 years old during the ban (ur stats says that u are 24 @the present). so unfortunately following precautions one wud wait till 21 to experiment w/such a compound & i apologize for that... again this statement was not meant to be offensive 2wards u in anyway. u where prolly 21+ @the time or when u where dosing w/ 4-AD.

a cycle of DHEA is not comparable & as efficient w/a cycle of the original 4-AD & Injectable Testosterone this is what im implying. unless sum how modification r dun to produce such results that are equivalent to 4-AD and Injectable Testosterone if ever possible. this is the type of compound that i was making a request for, to make myself clear... the compound wud hav to be equivalent to 4-AD & Injectable Testosterone... which im aware is not easily feasible, legally.

obviously a legal compound that wud convert to Testosterone that is an equivalent to 4-AD & Injectable Testosterone wud be hard to find & produce. i do agree...

peace!:)
 
For what it's worth a certain board sponsors transdermal DHEA felt very very similar to a Test cycle (maybe better) with no feellings of overwhelming estrogen conversion.
 
dude it really is a great compound if done right... why you think all these companis are exploiting it and close varients like superdrolNG from AX, the MMV2 and methyl masterdrol products from LG, and even now 1-DHEA from AMS and then Ergopharm (thats basically what it is).... Dhea converts directly to both 4-AD varients (dione and diol) and if other supps are taken to increase the conversion enzymes and block the reductase and aromatase then you can reall yboost its capabilities...

if there is a board sponsor that has trans DHEA why not just share??? if Comp edge doesnt mind that is.
 
dude it really is a great compound if done right... why you think all these companis are exploiting it and close varients like superdrolNG from AX, the MMV2 and methyl masterdrol products from LG, and even now 1-DHEA from AMS and then Ergopharm (thats basically what it is).... Dhea converts directly to both 4-AD varients (dione and diol) and if other supps are taken to increase the conversion enzymes and block the reductase and aromatase then you can reall yboost its capabilities...

if there is a board sponsor that has trans DHEA why not just share??? if Comp edge doesnt mind that is.


Primordial Performance dermacrine. :thumbsup:
 
then sumone get it manufactured... this is what i am requesting for :D

i found sum info here:

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The 4-5 pump dose of Dermacrine has been compare to 150mg of Test Enanthate by several long-time TRT patients. Some guys say it provides even more of a mental and energetic kick than testosterone too.

I wouldn’t go over 5 pumps a day or you risk getting too high of DHEA levels which would likely just give you anxiety, restlessness and maybe some estrogenic sides.

-Pp



Dhea converts directly to both 4-AD varients (dione and diol) and if other supps are taken to increase the conversion enzymes and block the reductase and aromatase then you can reall yboost its capabilities...


make the alterations needed to make DHEA equivalent to 4-AD & Injectable Testosterone & make sum $$$.

what ever the dosage of the compound is...the end result shud equally compare to 500mg of Test Enanthate /week

name it "IV-DROL" & dun 4get2 hook me up for life for my own personal use hehe :)
 
Keep it cool you two. :D

I highly doubt we would clone 1-AD, considering who one of the companies we use to test our raws is... i'll let you figure that one out.

As for dermacrine, i am interested to try it personally to see if it lives up to the hype although its kind of impossible to come up with an exact conversion rate, only that it "feels" like a certain amount of test.

i digress...
 
im really leaning towards a waxymaize with cortisol control BCAAs, and some Test boosting properties to enhance the ratio of testosterone to glucocorticoids.....
 
Keep it cool you two. :D

I highly doubt we would clone 1-AD, considering who one of the companies we use to test our raws is... i'll let you figure that one out.

As for dermacrine, i am interested to try it personally to see if it lives up to the hype although its kind of impossible to come up with an exact conversion rate, only that it "feels" like a certain amount of test.

i digress...

thats not whats being requested...hehe


then sumone get it manufactured... this is what i am requesting for :D

i found sum info here:

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The 4-5 pump dose of Dermacrine has been compare to 150mg of Test Enanthate by several long-time TRT patients. Some guys say it provides even more of a mental and energetic kick than testosterone too.

I wouldn’t go over 5 pumps a day or you risk getting too high of DHEA levels which would likely just give you anxiety, restlessness and maybe some estrogenic sides.

-Pp

Dhea converts directly to both 4-AD varients (dione and diol) and if other supps are taken to increase the conversion enzymes and block the reductase and aromatase then you can reall yboost its capabilities...


make the alterations needed to make DHEA equivalent to 4-AD & Injectable Testosterone & make sum $$$.


what ever the dosage of the compound is...the end result shud equally compare to 500mg of Test Enanthate /week


name it "IV-DROL" & dun 4get2 hook me up for life for my own personal use hehe :)



DO IT!!!!!!!!!! :D :bb3:
 
if you were to do some other products, i'd go with some nice non methyl stuff. lean dry gains like bold, Prostanozol, Orastan-e, or tren (any way to switch the formulation to make it legal?), the kind of stuff with lean dry gains that we can stack with all the wet methyls out there, like your P-Plex. if possible, maybe a non methyl (is there one) that can give you wet gains, that you can stack with H-drol. i think it would be nice to have one company, just like one online source to get all the goodies from, that have been tested for purity, and have been known to stack well together. also, your prices are the best anyways, so who else would i buy anything from?
 
if you were to do some other products, i'd go with some nice non methyl stuff. lean dry gains like bold, Prostanozol, Orastan-e, or tren (any way to switch the formulation to make it legal?), the kind of stuff with lean dry gains that we can stack with all the wet methyls out there, like your P-Plex. if possible, maybe a non methyl (is there one) that can give you wet gains, that you can stack with H-drol. i think it would be nice to have one company, just like one online source to get all the goodies from, that have been tested for purity, and have been known to stack well together. also, your prices are the best anyways, so who else would i buy anything from?

Once again, prostanozol comes up in the thread. Any comment from CEL on what products you are leaning towards, or IF prostanozol is making it into the top ten choices??
 
Once again, prostanozol comes up in the thread. Any comment from CEL on what products you are leaning towards, or IF prostanozol is making it into the top ten choices??

Prostanz is one that I have wanted to do for awhile. Its mainly a raw material availability issue.

There are alot of ideas in this thread we are looking into. It is going to depend on what raws we can source at good prices.
 
Prostanz is one that I have wanted to do for awhile. Its mainly a raw material availability issue.

There are alot of ideas in this thread we are looking into. It is going to depend on what raws we can source at good prices.

Im sure you can source most my powders for my idea faily easy and cheap :D

so.....do it...DO IT!!!! :lol:
 
what about the finigen compound? the original one? that was one I liked at the right dose and with a good absorbtion matrix.... maybe skip the Abs M and jst mega dose it at 150mg ed? like 75mg pills with a 60ct bottle?

Would pprefer this much more so then the LMG clones since it was alot less prone to sides and still was a wet non methyl
 
Def. A nice dose of prostan.Would really like to see it somewhere in the neighborhood of 100mg 90cap. What I also would love to see is same as above but maybe even added with a fat dose of tren type product with maybe an added cortisal blocker, In the same bottle, this way we can really see what these two products can do. Stack it with a low dose of p-plex or e-stane.YES.......:bb3:
 
Heres one I would kill for.... a Methoxy TRN clone

this is exactly what everyone is asking for (tren)

I am finishing off the last of my last bottle now along with the last of my 4-AD *tear* and have run iot standalone as well (actually put up the first log on it here on AM after its initial release)

Now the issue here is its hard as hell to get ahold of.. only have been able to trade for it or ship it over from UKJ sites (some reason theres still tons there and only like 19bucks a pop) so youd have to get it the same way if one were to try to reverse it and see what it was....

Generic Labz released Mega-TRN shortly after and it was basically dead on just not as potent and took a slightly higher dose (thats if you think the dose written on the side was really what was in the pill) but since then any other clone namely trenadrol have touted its the same compound but the results are totally different and the company itself has been quoted and laeled their bottles with both 3mg and 30mg without ever changing the compound name.... my wo partner also took it and it was very wet, definately not the same as ALRI's M-TRN.

So if you can contact ALRI and get the real formula, or even GL or get ahold of a bottle and have your "tester" check it out then I think youd have a STELLAR product no one else offers...

Talk about aggression and endurance, fits the Tren profile almost to a T. :D
 
I don't trust in transdermal too much. I prefer "classic" oral compounds.


I would like to see an un-methyled low-androgenic PH
(un-methylated Halodrol would be possible??)

Not sure if that would be possible or not.

I love dermals personally, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 
The issue with TRN is figuring out what the hell it really is if Im not mistaken lol


Agreed... wonder what the big deal was with not releasing what it really was....

No way to run it through a GCMS? or send a sample to a chem house and seeing if they can resynthisize the same??? prob big bucks huh...
 
Someone here was having Methoxy TST tested... They either had access to a GCMS or his father did. The thread went on for quite some time, then just died. I thought it was strange. Kinda like someone didn't want them to find out what was in it... or at least not post it.
 
i remember there was a trandermal tren. it was expensive, thats all i cud remember. i dun remember the name of the company.
 
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