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USPLabs said:
Even though we do engineer our herbs, this did not stop all the bulk guys and clone companies to copy cissus. These companies feed off our research and marketing and reeping huge profit. They can offer a lower price because they do not invest in engineering or product education/marketing. We do the leg work.

I am huge fan of research and development and our NEW research facility should be finished in 3-4 months in India.

You will see published studies.
FYI...I picked up Muira Puama over 1 1/2 years ago at BN, and had been in the process of sourcing Cissus LONG before your products were known.

http://forums.*************.com/?showtopic=1254&view=findpost&p=63135

Get off your platform, already.
 
USPLabs said:
You take the credit for the cissus. Nice platform.

take care
Time for the posedown...:bb2:
 
Lanbane said:
This is AM.com. Not BB.com.

Just a friendly reminder.


True, but I am thinking about releasing my Nettle root, Sesamin, and ecdy product that I sourced 12 years ago. I should of follwed through with my discovery of creatine before that phillips guy.
 
wideguy said:
6'2 really a little closer to 6'1 1/2
227 this morning
probably around 11%

2 hours pre workout
500mg YG
6 cialabol
80g's oatmeal
45g' whey concentrate/isolate/micellar casien(2 scoops)
8-10 caps fish oil high epa/DHA content

500mg
6 ciabol
Post workout
80gs's 30 sugars/50 complex(oats)
40g protein Whey concentrate/isolate/hydrosolate
6 caps fish oil

The protein blends do not have to be exact.

take care
 
USPLabs said:
True, but I am thinking about releasing my Nettle root, Sesamin, and ecdy product that I sourced 12 years ago. I should of follwed through with my discovery of creatine before that phillips guy.
You're a douchebag.

You throw an accusation that "all those bulk guys" are taking your cissus, after "all the research you did". I then posted a link where I am sourcing Cissus from close to 2 years ago, before USP was more than you mixing unknown ingredients in your garage, and you come back with more smartass comments?

You have a great way of treating both your customer and your "partner" retailers.
 
Whoa... slow the hell down bro.

Not the time or place. Sam would be wise to reign you and your comments in quick, as it reflects very poorly on his company.
So you sourced Cissus? Bravo! Great job! (High five)
But did you my friend bring it to market and show the industry the benefits and results one can achieve through use of it? No.

No disrespect intended from me to you.... but this crap is absurd. You do your thing, let your products speak for themselves. Let USP do his. He doesn't badmouth Nutraplanet.... why do you feel the need to attack his company?
 
dsade said:
You're a douchebag.

You throw an accusation that "all those bulk guys" are taking your cissus, after "all the research you did". I then posted a link where I am sourcing Cissus from close to 2 years ago, before USP was more than you mixing unknown ingredients in your garage, and you come back with more smartass comments?

You have a great way of treating both your customer and your "partner" retailers.

NutraPlanet sells alot of our garage filled supplements and they sell very well, ask sam. Sourcing is the easy part. Marketing and branding is the difficult side.

I could start a new brand by coping the industries top products and soon have a muti million dollar company. I know the products work and with a great marketing plan its a sinch. A few adds in MD and Flex. I would be in Europa,VS, GNC, and all major internet outets in no time. USPlabs has decided to innovate and forge our path.

Soucring Powders is easy even for a douchebag:yawn:
 
Yeah I dont' know who's a dbag and who's not but I know damn well that I'm baffled that every time I walk into the VS or other supplement store and see more bull**** from other companies and nothing from USP labs. That can only be by choice.
 
Whoa...the comment was made by the USP guy, basically calling us out.

Scroll up and look at who fired the first salvo, after trying to pretend to my face that he was an ally.

My comment was basically that nobody "copied" USP labs. Cissus had been getting a lot of talk a couple of years ago, and I had been working on picking it up INDEPENDENTLY of USP.
His accusation was ridiculous, and I responded in kind.

I can ***** all I want to about everyone else copying Sesathin...yet I don't.
 
dsade said:
My comment was basically that nobody "copied" USP labs. Cissus had been getting a lot of talk a couple of years ago, and I had been working on picking it up INDEPENDENTLY of USP.
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Ask Sam,bodybuilding.com, bulk nutrition, DPS, Pro source if cissus was the talk 2 years ago. I'm sure they where selling the **** out of it.

Nettle root has been sold for century. Does DS not deserve to shine in that light. Sesamin is an oil used for centuries so maybe the romans should take credit.

Give credit where it's due than move on. I have.

take care
 
I hope I am not imposing by taking the liberties to post in your forum, but due to the heated climate of opinion here, I strongly felt the need to offer my perspective in efforts of appeasement.

Let me first clearly elucidate that it was not Dsade's intention to cause friction in this thread. His opening post was merely in response to a blanket allegation insinuating all bulk material retailers are merely jumping on the Cissus bandwagon after USPLabs had done all the legwork; although this is true to a FAR reaching extent, truth be known, it simply did not apply in this case. Dsade never stated he was first to market Cissus or bring it to the limelight, nor did he ever state that he wanted to take credit for it, he simply was validating that there was an initial interest and attempt prior to USPLab's phenominal efforts in bringing it to a level of community awareness.

Having said all that, I would also like to apologize for any offense that may have been taken in the course of this verbal altercation. Both Dsade and I are VERY passionate about what we do, and along with that passion comes a sense of pride...a pride of our reputation that we take very seriously and uphold faithfully.

...and now I will step down from my platform :hammer:
 
My apologies for my part in this escalation. As Sam stated, I am extremely passionate about this industry.

I'm not making excuses about my display, but I hope things are better understood.
 
Everyone satisfied, or shall I lock this thread? You're all valued patrons of the community here, I'd prefer to see you argue things of this nature in private though.
 
stryder said:
I hope I am not imposing by taking the liberties to post in your forum, but due to the heated climate of opinion here, I strongly felt the need to offer my perspective in efforts of appeasement.

Let me first clearly elucidate that it was not Dsade's intention to cause friction in this thread. His opening post was merely in response to a blanket allegation insinuating all bulk material retailers are merely jumping on the Cissus bandwagon after USPLabs had done all the legwork; although this is true to a FAR reaching extent, truth be known, it simply did not apply in this case. Dsade never stated he was first to market Cissus or bring it to the limelight, nor did he ever state that he wanted to take credit for it, he simply was validating that there was an initial interest and attempt prior to USPLab's phenominal efforts in bringing it to a level of community awareness.

Having said all that, I would also like to apologize for any offense that may have been taken in the course of this verbal altercation. Both Dsade and I are VERY passionate about what we do, and along with that passion comes a sense of pride...a pride of our reputation that we take very seriously and uphold faithfully.

...and now I will step down from my platform :hammer:

Sam if anyone understands my passion it would be you. We discussed the Cissus issues on many occassions. I will leave it at that.

Hell do not listen to be, I am just a douhebag.:blink:

2 years ago the public was claiming this about cissus

USPlabs says
I hope you enjoy the product.

customer says(just go this
enjoy it??...I friggin love it!!!!!..it does wonders for my tendinitus at my elbows and all my other joints, its like magic...not joke...thanks for making a great product....next I need to try some of your other products



take care
 
You dont know when to stop, do you?
 
dsade said:
You dont know when to stop, do you?

Wasn't the deal you sent that I stay in my forum and you stay in your forum. I admit it is silly but atleast follow your advice. Move on, Please.

Before dsade(lol), Nutra and USPlabs had a great relationship both helping each other out. I respect Sam to the utmost. If you are partner, I rather not deal with you.

THis bull**** only steems from Dsade marketing a bulk powder as Bulk PowerFULL. I just corrected his mistake in the Nutra forum. The customer has the right to understand the marketing mistake!



take care
 
Finally we agree on something.

Next time try using your brain before you talk smack about someone you "have a great relationship with", and maybe that relationship can stay great.
 
dsade said:
Finally we agree on something.

Next time try using your brain before you talk smack about someone you "have a great relationship with", and maybe that relationship can stay great.

Vice vera douchebag!
 
Chill. Watch some Kramer.


 
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