What do YOU want to see next from EBF
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domore
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High dosed osthole.
Will report with studies when I confirm what I want to use.
Oooo, interesting
I'll do some research until you decide.
AutoKal47
AK DoubleWide 47
I have seen the pix
and I can confirm boys, the results are impressive, up in weight and size and leaner, and in a very short time frame
domore
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High dosed osthole
Will report with studies when I confirm what I want to use.
The ability to reduce triglyceride levels in the liver, possesses anti-inflammatory effects, and potential as an anti-breast cancer agent: Seems pretty good!
However, i do have a question regarding Osthole's ability to glucose uptake through AMPk in skeletal muscles and it being used as a muscle-building product.
So, AMPk activation inhibits glycogen storage and increases glucose uptake. Therefore, it seems to help improve insulin sensitivity and in skeletal muscles AMPk activation increases fatty acid oxidation.
AMPk is "turned on" when the cellular energy state of the cells drops. From what I have read, AMPk turns off energetically costly processes like protein synthesis and turns on energy producing processes like glucose and fat oxidation.
Now here lies my question.
Can leucine's activation of mTOR override AMPk's suppression of mTOR during exercise and continue to let growth occur?
This isn't my field, so if I am amiss please correct me.
domore
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Nice! This might be the answer for which I have been looking. I don't need help in the testosterone/libido department, but I would like to take advantage of a product that promotes muscle growth.
domore
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Good to hear! I'm not sure of what the upper bounds of an extreme dose would be. I came to that conclusion through the studies I have read. I just found some information and other people saying that it in order for it to have any AR-transcriptional activity the doses would need to be high.
Ape McGrapes
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Read that too, but is AR stimulation the only mechanism it works through?
EBF, you said you had been taking this. I've read multiple times that osthole is A PDE-5 inhibitor. Any effect in the erection department?
Also read about stomach issues and feeling sick. Anything here?
EBF, you said you had been taking this. I've read multiple times that osthole is A PDE-5 inhibitor. Any effect in the erection department?
Also read about stomach issues and feeling sick. Anything here?
MAxximal
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wow not stomach cramps or killing headaches? and BTW did you read my pm Sir.
domore
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Nice hefty dose!
Ape McGrapes
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Yeah, but your supperhuman. How much capsicium do you take a day?
RecompMan
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domore said:
Not to bad. I think the dose of osthole I'm using is way to high. Throat issues since like 2 days after dosing at 1800-2000 mg. I had same effects and no sides at 800-1200mg.
Libido is there. Wood seems to not w as strong at these doses however not seeing anyone and been stressed lately so well see if that changes
domore
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domore
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Good deal. Just excited to see EBF grow
domore
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Thanks.
We need as much support as we can get to really make things fly.
Tell everyone about us
Will do!
smaxie
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Not sure if you're still taking ideas but, I've got a few a natural Androstenedione, booster could increase test and doesn't seem anyone making one.
A full spectrum alpha adrenergic receptor 2 supplement a lot of fat loss pathways with it and libido boost.
A insulin booster and sensitiser , since insulin has a lot of anabolic/fat loss properties could be a hit.
And Myristoleic Acid could have anabolic effects although not too researched.
A full spectrum alpha adrenergic receptor 2 supplement a lot of fat loss pathways with it and libido boost.
A insulin booster and sensitiser , since insulin has a lot of anabolic/fat loss properties could be a hit.
And Myristoleic Acid could have anabolic effects although not too researched.
CJ_Xfit89
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smaxie said:
The idea of an AI is potential but what we need to accomplish is some DIFFERENT to all the others. It's easy to chuck in some dhea metabolite with some herbs but we are looking for innovation.
Thanks for the ideas man...glad you dropped in...any more, please let us know.
domore
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Differentiation by using innovative, yet effective, ingredients in their supplements; EBF is doing it right.
Ape McGrapes
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I tend to keep up with what there is demand for. Lots of companies put out redundant products. Two things I know are heavily requested by the Supp community are:
A transdermal Epiandrosterone(stanodrol). I'd like to see this with some DHEA. Maybe 75mg.
A natural PDE-5 inhibitor. I know you have Natty-V, but a product with a 50+% Icariin extract would be nice. Icariin has some body building properties too.
These would easily put EBF on the map.
Just look at what BPS did with Dermacrine.
A transdermal Epiandrosterone(stanodrol). I'd like to see this with some DHEA. Maybe 75mg.
A natural PDE-5 inhibitor. I know you have Natty-V, but a product with a 50+% Icariin extract would be nice. Icariin has some body building properties too.
These would easily put EBF on the map.
Just look at what BPS did with Dermacrine.
domore
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Looks like Prototype fulfilled your request.
RecompMan
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Things are great. Added in another ingredient yesterday. Will test for 3 weeks on strength and muscle fullness. The. I'll add a fourth ingredient.
Strength is way up. Libido high. Bodyfat the same or within a percent. Deeper cuts. Mainly from increased muscle mass and fullness.
Pump is there from osthole but it isn't crazy.
I'm looking a full dose pre workout and on non workout half dose morning half dose night.
Strength is way up. Libido high. Bodyfat the same or within a percent. Deeper cuts. Mainly from increased muscle mass and fullness.
Pump is there from osthole but it isn't crazy.
I'm looking a full dose pre workout and on non workout half dose morning half dose night.
domore
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I'm glad to hear it is going well. I'm looking forward to this having a few bottles right on my counter!
domore
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I just gotta bump for the good people of Anabolic Minds.
domore
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Thanks bud.
Zach is a busy man the mad chemist he is
Lookin forward to this new muscle builder
I'm recovering from surgery, and I'm an Olympic lifting. I definitely want to give this a go to get to where I was before.
domore
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Thanks! I'll be waiting for it!
RecompMan
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domore said:
Things good
I been playing with l dopa. That one is hard to get a nice dose I like pre workout
I have 2 extracts I been playing with. One drags me down post workout. But gives a better workout
The other not so much. May have to remove it and look into another ingredient
There definitely needs to be an ai
Gotta find one I like that's herbal with some science behind it
domore
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Sounds like you have some ideas brewing. I think Natty has experimented with L-Dopa preworkout, and he said that he enjoyed it. With what you just said, I'm assuming you are still trying to have the dosing be preworkout and one other time?
RecompMan
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Yea I found the one extract I liked but may take too much capsule room. It 15% extract.
Ive been on te osthole a while. Need consistent food intake on that bc if cals drop your dropping weight and getting leaner even at a little surplus
I also found it needs an ai. Nothing too strong tho.
We will see what comes of it
Ive been on te osthole a while. Need consistent food intake on that bc if cals drop your dropping weight and getting leaner even at a little surplus
I also found it needs an ai. Nothing too strong tho.
We will see what comes of it