What’s something good for running?
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vlsk10
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For cardio/ running you can get a long way with 5-10mg yohimbine hcl (raises blood pressure, energy, increases fat loss) stacked with 600mg coenzyme 10 (protects heart from overload- gives energy). Take it with a small cup of espresso along with 1ml of ground cayenne pepper like 30-40 min pre workout. Make sure not to drink a lot of water right before training. you'll have a lot of endurance/stamina. Yohimbine stacked with cardarine could also work.
For knee or hip pain I'm not sure. Taurin is good. Knee pain is usually best treated with a standard dose of NSAID otc which can be taken in the morning or in the evening. Don't need the opiods for knee pain
(unless you wanna see rapid decline in testosterone ofc)
For knee or hip pain I'm not sure. Taurin is good. Knee pain is usually best treated with a standard dose of NSAID otc which can be taken in the morning or in the evening. Don't need the opiods for knee pain
(unless you wanna see rapid decline in testosterone ofc)
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Smont
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I lift/box/run. That's pretty much how I train.
I would not rely on any kind of pain pills for your knees and hips. I would instead work on strength and mobility for that. Finding a good low impact stride when running will help.
If you lift and run with high intensity I'd avoid stims, yohimbine mentioned above is good if you can tolerate it but it only works as a fat burner if you are fasted. Literally all the fat loss from yohimbine requires you take it fasted and do fasted cardio. I cant use yohimbine at more then 2mg or I feel horrible as do many but some ppl can tolerate it very well in much higher doses.
My favorite endurance supp is injectable carnatine.
Carderine is a good one as well, I'm a rep for maresearch and we sell carderine if your interested. My screen name is 15% off store wide
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I would not rely on any kind of pain pills for your knees and hips. I would instead work on strength and mobility for that. Finding a good low impact stride when running will help.
If you lift and run with high intensity I'd avoid stims, yohimbine mentioned above is good if you can tolerate it but it only works as a fat burner if you are fasted. Literally all the fat loss from yohimbine requires you take it fasted and do fasted cardio. I cant use yohimbine at more then 2mg or I feel horrible as do many but some ppl can tolerate it very well in much higher doses.
My favorite endurance supp is injectable carnatine.
Carderine is a good one as well, I'm a rep for maresearch and we sell carderine if your interested. My screen name is 15% off store wide
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vlsk10
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For lifting and strenght btw - if not for energy - I'm having good sucesss with prohormones diendione + topical 4-dhea.
strenght increased rapidly fast from nowhere. and no side effects like lethargy, dark urine, or feeling bloated or heavy. no strain on the liver or the kidneys either. no hair loss. all good. just wish It would help me eat more. i think im getting more lean.
strenght increased rapidly fast from nowhere. and no side effects like lethargy, dark urine, or feeling bloated or heavy. no strain on the liver or the kidneys either. no hair loss. all good. just wish It would help me eat more. i think im getting more lean.
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For running/cardio - I really like All Out Sweat - the non jittery stim profile is great for endurance, plus fully loaded pre with thermogenics and ALCAR. The Peak02 dosing in there is great too for increased oxygen utilization. Not to mention it's loaded with electrolytes.
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baldwanus
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Not sure how you feel about TD's, but: XPG Curcuprime Gel + L-Carnitine Gel would be solid options to look into. Curcruprime is great for pain relief, added bonus that you can apply it directly to a spot thats hurting. Endurance boost I've noticed from the carnitine gel is awesome, so thats something that would probably help out with the running.
kid amnesiac
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I think a product with Senactiv could be good. Think SNS may have a solo product coming out soon
sns8778
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Joint Support XT is great for joint pain and mobility. There's a lot of positive feedback on here for it and most people can tell a difference within the first week to 2 weeks.
Here is a link to the write up: https://seriousnutritionsolutions.com/product/joint-support-xt/
L-Carnitine Gel is great for endurance. You can see some feedback on it in this thread:
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For maximum performance and recovery, Muscle Addiction Recovery Fix is a really good product that helps with muscle recovery and muscle aches and pains. It doesn't get talked about a lot here on AM, but is very popular with endurance athletes and people who play very cardio and endurance intensive sports where there is a need to be able to train harder, longer, and more intensely and recover better.
Here's a link to the write up for Recovery Fix: https://muscleaddiction.com/product/recovery-fix/
I'm also tagging @Resolve10 because he does a lot of endurance training and always has great insights.
Here's the supplement facts for Recovery Fix.
sns8778
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Agreed. Senactiv is great for endurance. We hope to have Senactiv XT out in the next couple of months and will be coming out with a couple of other products that are specifically endurance related.
I had posted a reply about Recovery Fix at the same time you posted yours and that's one thing I really like about that product is that it has Senactiv in it.
Smont
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Never heard of this ingredient till today, a few google searches and this stuff sounds super interesting from so many angles.
sns8778
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It's a very interesting ingredient. It has a lot of athletic and longevity properties. You could think of it as a longevity product for athletes and people with an active lifestyle.
We were one of the first companies to use it in products years ago, and there has been so much more research on it since then. When we first started using it, it was known as ActiGin (not to be confused as AstraGin), and we were one of the first companies to use it when we used it in Anabolic Effect and VasoForce XT and VasoForce Rush.
It's still in those formulas and we use it now in Pepti-Plex, Phosphatidic Acid XT, and Recovery Fix and will be using it in all 3 of the endurance products that we are going to be coming out with and are going to be doing a Senactiv XT product that should be out in the next couple of months.
Resolve10
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What is up with some of these responses. 
I’ll preface this with it probably depends how much running you do and much like lifting what type of “philosophy” you follow with it or type of running training you tend to do will influence which things may be most beneficial for you.
Second preface is assuming you’ve got hydration and nutrition dialed in, certain aspects of these can be more important than even just for lifting. Some recommendations below will cover a bit of this though.
I’ll also go backwards, starting with things maybe helping aches and pains, joints, and recovery first.
Curcumin: I think this is a pretty good ingredient that most people should almost just be taking all the time regardless, but with especially higher "volume" times of endurance work I think it is quite helpful. As long as it is a high quality extract I think you'll be fine, various ones some people have preference for. I really like SNS Theracurmin XT and when I feel I need even more "oomph" XPG Curcugel is a great option, especially when applied to things like knees, feet, and ankles when I get back into running or higher volumes.
Tart Cherry: A bit more of a "performance" booster, but I really find this helps with decreasing DOMS and maybe overall inflammatory responses to endurance work. I'll take either NOW Tart Cherry with my final meal every day or Muscle Addiction Recovery Fix (which will have more highlighted ingredients listed later) pre training (full dose pre or half dose prior to split sessions or even double dosing during very tough times).
PEA: Another ingredient I think is pretty awesome for a ton of things, but seems to really help with the little aches and pains that creep up as volume and intensity climb. Usually get a some in a full dose of Recovery Fix and will add a second cap of SNS PEA Extreme during more strenuous times as well.
Pepti-Plex/Peptistrong: This is wayyyyyyyy more than just for joint pain and recovery, but really covers all aspects of training recovery and performance. This is a staple for me because it just seems to leave me feeling "younger" or like I recover from these harder training sessions like I did in my 20s.
Next, more general ingredients that are pretty cheap that work for most exercises and not just runners, with a slight lean towards endurance.
Creatine: Pretty much a no brainer, but opting for Creatine HCL or Magnesium Creatine Chelate if you are more prone to unwanted water weight increases. Currently I am using SNS Creatine HCL because it tastes great and works awesome, but will probably switch to SNS MCC next time I run out just to switch it up. Magnesium has way too many benefits to list so if not getting it definitely opt for MCC as an easy way to get a highly absorb-able form or make sure to pick some up individually.
Betaine: Hydration and potential power and endurance benefits. Not super strong benefits, but I always notice a difference when I make sure to get at least 2.5g per day, usually 1 scoop of SNS Betaine in my pre and I'll double up for 5g per day when splitting my training.
Taurine: Again a ton of benefits with hydration and performance being noticeable. Dosing depends on the individual, but I get a decent 1-3g most days depending on a variety of factors.
Carnitine: Recovery, decreased DOMS and depending on the form more endurance are all things I notice. 2-4g of LCLT per day or a mix of LCLT for performance and ALCAR with nootropics/stims are things I have taken for a long time, but I am really enjoying XPG Carnitine gel lately, seems to be a great boost to my endurance and recovery at 2-4 pumps per day.
Beta Alanine: Maybe not as important for just lifters or maybe not as beneficial depending on your running program, but potentially can benefit anyways. 4-6g in 2-3 split doses per day when I don't mind putting up with some tingles. Decreases fatigue sympoms, especially in more repeat style work that I tend to gravitate towards.
*Sodium Bicarbonate: I don't really recommend because it can jack people's stomachs up and dosing can be annoying, but pretty effective anyways.
More "pump" style ingredients found in lots of pre-workouts generally can have a good effect, but I find depending on training programs and personal limiters they can have some drawbacks with pumps, so keep that in mind and definitely don't just try to take all of them at max dose.
Ornithine: Really good for longer duration work, well beyond what most lifters tend to do and probably more effective for endurance enthusiasts (as far as performance, lots of health benefits for everyone). Decreases ammonia build up and with Beta Alanine I feel like I don't hit as many "walls". I like 3g of SNS LOLA pre-training and 3g twice per day when split training. Least likely to cause excessive pumps IME, but definitely helps pumps for lifting just doesn't seem to cause as much issue with endurance work.
Citrulline: Another self explantory one. 3-6g of Citrulline or 6-12g of Citrulline Malate depending on what else I am taking, but I take this pretty much non-stop.
Tea Extracts: I've played around with various "extracts", I really like the addition in Pepti-plex right now seems to help endurance, heart rate, and just overall recovery.
Epicatechin: Similar to above, I don't notice massive improvements, but it helps recovery and overall cardiovascular "health", while also seeming to give some good body comp benefits for me. I really need to try the new CEL Epi-Plex because I loved the old version and the new one has an upgraded tea extract.
Nitrates: I love nitrates, but dosing or finding it dosed how I'd like without a TON of other things can be tough. Really helps with repeat work, lowering perceived exertion/HR for me, and gives some pretty awesome pumps for training. Definitely don't overdo this ingredient. Too much crashes my blood pressure.
*Glycerol: Would love to play around with a higher dosed approach to this, but the smaller dosages I do find help with hydration during the summer and obviously pumps and some sick vascularity.
Ok this list is getting stupidly long, so I'll try to wrap it up, but adaptogens I really like and "natty anabolics" that seem to help below as well.
Ashwagandha: Amazing for stress and similar outcomes, but also really helpful for cardiovascular improvements. KSM-66 particularly has been shown to increase VO2max and Sensoril has some other studies with performance benefits. I take SNS Stress and Anxiety (Sensoril) regularly or SNS KSM-66 when I am not taking that.
Terminalia Arjuna: A great heart health ingredient, but has been shown to improve cardiovascular performance, especially when combined with Ash like above. I really enjoy SNS Cardiovascular Support XT also has other ingredients like Grape Seed Extract and Pomegranate that help as well.
Siberian Ginseng: I really enjoyed this as a great adaptogen for some performance, tougher to find so I don't use as often.
Robuvit: I really liked this, probably more than most based on other feedback I have seen. I really enjoyed 300-400mg per day, but it became cost prohibitive or hard to maintain stock so I stopped. I think it had slightly better cardiovascular benefits for me, but ingredients like Korean Mistletoe Extract in CEL Anabolic Effect and Urolithin-B in SNS Urolithin-B XT have more robust benefits to muscular strength, power and body comp benefits while they tangentially work through some similar MOA so I use them more often now.
Rhodiola: I've been using various extracts of Rosavins and Salidrosides for nearly two decades now (!!). I get this usually in SNS Stress and Anxiety, but I think the performance benefits are something people don't realize or how potent they can be for endurance.
Mushrooms: Going to keep this broad. I have been like a PeakO2 warrior for however many years since it was first released by (primaforce?). Absolutely amazing for endurance and recovery for me, allows higher training volumes. I've heard issues with supply and grumblings of better things on the horizon though so I'd keep your eyes open.
Senactiv: Been in love with this since it was Actigin. 100mg pre training is an awesome boost. 50mg up to 200mg daily are dosages I have played with and I really enjoy it. Can't wait to try SNS solo product and really push the dosages. Improves my recovery and ability to hit the same muscles again sooner (so things like constant running, biking and rowing see good benefits here).
Geez. Way too much typing.
Last thing, careful on stims and nootropics. I find them highly individual and can't really understand recommending Y-HCL. I'd probably die.
If you do want them finding the best dosages is probably ideal, Tyrosine, Choline (various sources), plus Caffeine is an awesome start. My curveball is Sabroxy. I use 300mg Sabroxy XT pre-training and it clears up my breathing, I have less trouble maintaining my breathing and stay super dialed in with no added pressure on my heart rate or blood pressure. Too much caffeine I personally don't like for how it makes me feel during regular training.
Ok way too much and I didn't even get into everything. Don't take all at once and use as a springboard to things to look into.
I’ll preface this with it probably depends how much running you do and much like lifting what type of “philosophy” you follow with it or type of running training you tend to do will influence which things may be most beneficial for you.
Second preface is assuming you’ve got hydration and nutrition dialed in, certain aspects of these can be more important than even just for lifting. Some recommendations below will cover a bit of this though.
I’ll also go backwards, starting with things maybe helping aches and pains, joints, and recovery first.
Curcumin: I think this is a pretty good ingredient that most people should almost just be taking all the time regardless, but with especially higher "volume" times of endurance work I think it is quite helpful. As long as it is a high quality extract I think you'll be fine, various ones some people have preference for. I really like SNS Theracurmin XT and when I feel I need even more "oomph" XPG Curcugel is a great option, especially when applied to things like knees, feet, and ankles when I get back into running or higher volumes.
Tart Cherry: A bit more of a "performance" booster, but I really find this helps with decreasing DOMS and maybe overall inflammatory responses to endurance work. I'll take either NOW Tart Cherry with my final meal every day or Muscle Addiction Recovery Fix (which will have more highlighted ingredients listed later) pre training (full dose pre or half dose prior to split sessions or even double dosing during very tough times).
PEA: Another ingredient I think is pretty awesome for a ton of things, but seems to really help with the little aches and pains that creep up as volume and intensity climb. Usually get a some in a full dose of Recovery Fix and will add a second cap of SNS PEA Extreme during more strenuous times as well.
Pepti-Plex/Peptistrong: This is wayyyyyyyy more than just for joint pain and recovery, but really covers all aspects of training recovery and performance. This is a staple for me because it just seems to leave me feeling "younger" or like I recover from these harder training sessions like I did in my 20s.
Next, more general ingredients that are pretty cheap that work for most exercises and not just runners, with a slight lean towards endurance.
Creatine: Pretty much a no brainer, but opting for Creatine HCL or Magnesium Creatine Chelate if you are more prone to unwanted water weight increases. Currently I am using SNS Creatine HCL because it tastes great and works awesome, but will probably switch to SNS MCC next time I run out just to switch it up. Magnesium has way too many benefits to list so if not getting it definitely opt for MCC as an easy way to get a highly absorb-able form or make sure to pick some up individually.
Betaine: Hydration and potential power and endurance benefits. Not super strong benefits, but I always notice a difference when I make sure to get at least 2.5g per day, usually 1 scoop of SNS Betaine in my pre and I'll double up for 5g per day when splitting my training.
Taurine: Again a ton of benefits with hydration and performance being noticeable. Dosing depends on the individual, but I get a decent 1-3g most days depending on a variety of factors.
Carnitine: Recovery, decreased DOMS and depending on the form more endurance are all things I notice. 2-4g of LCLT per day or a mix of LCLT for performance and ALCAR with nootropics/stims are things I have taken for a long time, but I am really enjoying XPG Carnitine gel lately, seems to be a great boost to my endurance and recovery at 2-4 pumps per day.
Beta Alanine: Maybe not as important for just lifters or maybe not as beneficial depending on your running program, but potentially can benefit anyways. 4-6g in 2-3 split doses per day when I don't mind putting up with some tingles. Decreases fatigue sympoms, especially in more repeat style work that I tend to gravitate towards.
*Sodium Bicarbonate: I don't really recommend because it can jack people's stomachs up and dosing can be annoying, but pretty effective anyways.
More "pump" style ingredients found in lots of pre-workouts generally can have a good effect, but I find depending on training programs and personal limiters they can have some drawbacks with pumps, so keep that in mind and definitely don't just try to take all of them at max dose.
Ornithine: Really good for longer duration work, well beyond what most lifters tend to do and probably more effective for endurance enthusiasts (as far as performance, lots of health benefits for everyone). Decreases ammonia build up and with Beta Alanine I feel like I don't hit as many "walls". I like 3g of SNS LOLA pre-training and 3g twice per day when split training. Least likely to cause excessive pumps IME, but definitely helps pumps for lifting just doesn't seem to cause as much issue with endurance work.
Citrulline: Another self explantory one. 3-6g of Citrulline or 6-12g of Citrulline Malate depending on what else I am taking, but I take this pretty much non-stop.
Tea Extracts: I've played around with various "extracts", I really like the addition in Pepti-plex right now seems to help endurance, heart rate, and just overall recovery.
Epicatechin: Similar to above, I don't notice massive improvements, but it helps recovery and overall cardiovascular "health", while also seeming to give some good body comp benefits for me. I really need to try the new CEL Epi-Plex because I loved the old version and the new one has an upgraded tea extract.
Nitrates: I love nitrates, but dosing or finding it dosed how I'd like without a TON of other things can be tough. Really helps with repeat work, lowering perceived exertion/HR for me, and gives some pretty awesome pumps for training. Definitely don't overdo this ingredient. Too much crashes my blood pressure.
*Glycerol: Would love to play around with a higher dosed approach to this, but the smaller dosages I do find help with hydration during the summer and obviously pumps and some sick vascularity.
Ok this list is getting stupidly long, so I'll try to wrap it up, but adaptogens I really like and "natty anabolics" that seem to help below as well.
Ashwagandha: Amazing for stress and similar outcomes, but also really helpful for cardiovascular improvements. KSM-66 particularly has been shown to increase VO2max and Sensoril has some other studies with performance benefits. I take SNS Stress and Anxiety (Sensoril) regularly or SNS KSM-66 when I am not taking that.
Terminalia Arjuna: A great heart health ingredient, but has been shown to improve cardiovascular performance, especially when combined with Ash like above. I really enjoy SNS Cardiovascular Support XT also has other ingredients like Grape Seed Extract and Pomegranate that help as well.
Siberian Ginseng: I really enjoyed this as a great adaptogen for some performance, tougher to find so I don't use as often.
Robuvit: I really liked this, probably more than most based on other feedback I have seen. I really enjoyed 300-400mg per day, but it became cost prohibitive or hard to maintain stock so I stopped. I think it had slightly better cardiovascular benefits for me, but ingredients like Korean Mistletoe Extract in CEL Anabolic Effect and Urolithin-B in SNS Urolithin-B XT have more robust benefits to muscular strength, power and body comp benefits while they tangentially work through some similar MOA so I use them more often now.
Rhodiola: I've been using various extracts of Rosavins and Salidrosides for nearly two decades now (!!). I get this usually in SNS Stress and Anxiety, but I think the performance benefits are something people don't realize or how potent they can be for endurance.
Mushrooms: Going to keep this broad. I have been like a PeakO2 warrior for however many years since it was first released by (primaforce?). Absolutely amazing for endurance and recovery for me, allows higher training volumes. I've heard issues with supply and grumblings of better things on the horizon though so I'd keep your eyes open.
Senactiv: Been in love with this since it was Actigin. 100mg pre training is an awesome boost. 50mg up to 200mg daily are dosages I have played with and I really enjoy it. Can't wait to try SNS solo product and really push the dosages. Improves my recovery and ability to hit the same muscles again sooner (so things like constant running, biking and rowing see good benefits here).
Geez. Way too much typing.
Last thing, careful on stims and nootropics. I find them highly individual and can't really understand recommending Y-HCL. I'd probably die.
If you do want them finding the best dosages is probably ideal, Tyrosine, Choline (various sources), plus Caffeine is an awesome start. My curveball is Sabroxy. I use 300mg Sabroxy XT pre-training and it clears up my breathing, I have less trouble maintaining my breathing and stay super dialed in with no added pressure on my heart rate or blood pressure. Too much caffeine I personally don't like for how it makes me feel during regular training.
Ok way too much and I didn't even get into everything. Don't take all at once and use as a springboard to things to look into.
MakeTime3
New member
This too I’ve done before runs. It gives you that extra pep in your step if you know what I mean
Nastynan
New member
I swear everytime I’ve hit my delta 8 vape a few hits before a run it’s made me feel slowThis too I’ve done before runs. It gives you that extra pep in your step if you know what I mean
Chaimiasy
Member
Creatine HCL by concrete or MCC by SNS , Evomuse BMP ( ran it once before liked it a lot) & Evomuse Slintensity ( post workout ),XPG gels FL7.
I just picked up 2x bottles PA by SNS, 2x BMP evomuse, 2x Dermacrine by Iconic Formulation ,3x XIKT by iron legion & 2x Mitoburn by SNS. This is what I’ll be running starting next week
Nastynan
New member
You like BMP pretty good? I was about to buy me a bottle and try it out.
Chaimiasy
Member
Yes I did it a while ago felt good. Good strength gains. Nothing crazy it is a natty supplement good energy I just felt tighter but I also kept a very good diet and I train consistent. I ain’t picky with how I spend my money and if I didn’t like it I wouldn’t have bought it again that’s for sure. I’d try two bottles though. Seems most stuff is most effective after 2 bottles atleast 2 bottles
Darkhorse192
Well-known member
MST Cordygen-5 and Cordygen-VO2 Ultra
GreenMachineX
Well-known member
My wife loves rhodiola rosea (especially Gaia brand) for her breathing while doing cardio. It makes a significant difference in her performance. Citrulline malate helps keep the energy in her muscles for longer distances. Wish I knew about this combo when I was in the military.
sns8778
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You may want to stock up on some bottles for her if she really likes it. There are things going on with Rhodiola and pricing is going to go through the roof on it. Raws that were less than 20 a kg. sold out at over 100.00 per kg.
Not gonna derail this thread talking about it. If you want to discuss more, you can ask in the Tell Us What You Want from us thread that serves as a Q&A thread.
BCseacow83
Well-known member
I went from couch to Ultra Marathon(50k) in 8 weeks culminating on my 40th bday with ZERO lifetime running training beyond what I did for football and wrestling. I used the following:
Beta-alanine SNS
Peak O2 SNS
Resveratrol Hi-tech
Tyrosine NutraBio
CoQ10 Source Naturals
Helios Apex
PhytoCaine Apex
Topical MSM/Glucosamine/Arnica Now Foods
J-Flex The Lab
Occasional ephedrine hcl 12.5mg
Coffee
Electrolytes (Core Nutritionals Hydrate)
MCT oil in my coffee
High protein, high fat, low carb<50g/day, no refeeds.
I did eat some gummies D8/cbd about 30k mark on the 50K day and DID eat some Jacked factory Bars during the run, about 1 bar every 1.5 hours and used 2 sticks of the Core electrolytes per hour as well. I was SLOW but finished that sucker by myself in our neighborhood that is 1km X 1.5km, in January. It was a nice clear day with no snow.
For me I find avoiding anything that increases pumps is a good idea when running, I don't want ANY additional pumps in my legs.
Beta-alanine SNS
Peak O2 SNS
Resveratrol Hi-tech
Tyrosine NutraBio
CoQ10 Source Naturals
Helios Apex
PhytoCaine Apex
Topical MSM/Glucosamine/Arnica Now Foods
J-Flex The Lab
Occasional ephedrine hcl 12.5mg
Coffee
Electrolytes (Core Nutritionals Hydrate)
MCT oil in my coffee
High protein, high fat, low carb<50g/day, no refeeds.
I did eat some gummies D8/cbd about 30k mark on the 50K day and DID eat some Jacked factory Bars during the run, about 1 bar every 1.5 hours and used 2 sticks of the Core electrolytes per hour as well. I was SLOW but finished that sucker by myself in our neighborhood that is 1km X 1.5km, in January. It was a nice clear day with no snow.
For me I find avoiding anything that increases pumps is a good idea when running, I don't want ANY additional pumps in my legs.