Volcom's Androlean & Androhard Log

NADDANME said:
Not me there enough pics on the internet already of guys built alot better than me.

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you shouldnt look at it that way

-you aint as bad as you think, but not as good as they are saying (net is different because we hide behind a pc, so guys like to flame when maybe they have spaghetti arms)

a pic, and not some bogus flexing job, will give people an idea of what you are working with, and with the visual, help you get to your goals via training and or nutrition tips

any retards who talk ****, let it go in one ear and out the other, usually they are overcompensating for their s*** physiques

if someone is put together,odds are they may have some advice, and i highly doubt theyd get anything out of knocking you

personally, i think im in shape,but by no means a star on here, and unless you have a vagina, id only be looking to help....iv been natty most of the way, and dont eat meat, but maintain a good amount of size, so i may have some tips, or not
 
sking6464 said:
you shouldnt look at it that way

-you aint as bad as you think, but not as good as they are saying (net is different because we hide behind a pc, so guys like to flame when maybe they have spaghetti arms)

a pic, and not some bogus flexing job, will give people an idea of what you are working with, and with the visual, help you get to your goals via training and or nutrition tips

any retards who talk ****, let it go in one ear and out the other, usually they are overcompensating for their s*** physiques

if someone is put together,odds are they may have some advice, and i highly doubt theyd get anything out of knocking you

personally, i think im in shape,but by no means a star on here, and unless you have a vagina, id only be looking to help....iv been natty most of the way, and dont eat meat, but maintain a good amount of size, so i may have some tips, or not
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Don't eat meat, wow, so you've got to be pretty versed on pairing your aminos through various veggies, cause you've got great musculature. Do you not eat any meat at all? No fish, maybe not even eggs (embryo). I suppose nuts and seeds have a good source of protein and good fats, but still.
 
VolcomX311 said:
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It's really good and a fun interview.
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im a lesnar fan, regardless of his critics, his athleticism is unreal, to go from ncaa-wwe-nfl camp-ufc-ufc champ.........cmon

i think dos santos will take him, but he couldnt drop big country, n brock should fire back

if anything, he brings the most excitement to the cage....im in mtl, gsp lives 5min from me, but my gf says its brock she finds more entertaining
 
sking6464 said:
im a lesnar fan, regardless of his critics, his athleticism is unreal, to go from ncaa-wwe-nfl camp-ufc-ufc champ.........cmon

i think dos santos will take him, but he couldnt drop big country, n brock should fire back

if anything, he brings the most excitement to the cage....im in mtl, gsp lives 5min from me, but my gf says its brock she finds more entertaining
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Yeah, I've been on the Brock train since the get-go, but that's primarily because I was fascinated by his athleticism. I like to root for natural beasts. Brock is certainly a point of contention among "hardcore" MMA fans and I get their arguments and can see why they form the negative opinions of Brock that they do, but I love me some Brock Lesnar. I'll always root for him and he's my favorite fighter in terms of getting me enthused to see him fight; not because i think he's the best by any means, but I see JDS giving him problems and I can't conceive any situations where Brock ever beats Cain.

My favorite fighters would have to be '06 Mirko Cro Cop, BJ Penn, pre M1 Fedor, high hopes for Pat Barry, pre Hollywood Rampage Jackson, Jose Aldo.... just name a few and Brock Lesnar.
 
I consider myself a hardcore MMA fan and I love Brock Lesnar. He is exactly what the sport needs and that is a magnetic personality. For all the in-ring action, MMA lacked a character that could play the audience. He definitely got a title shot too early, but, to his credit, he beat the opponents in front of him.
 
Rodja said:
I consider myself a hardcore MMA fan and I love Brock Lesnar. He is exactly what the sport needs and that is a magnetic personality. For all the in-ring action, MMA lacked a character that could play the audience. He definitely got a title shot too early, but, to his credit, he beat the opponents in front of him.
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I agree and Brock is thee premier candidate to be out there promoting TUF 13and his fight with JDS. He carries a lot of clout with his celebrity status and he's good at being out there promoting in the media market.

Cain looks and sounds very uncomfortable and awkward in front of cameras and even when he promotes in the Spanish media, he's just dull in the personality department. I think JDS, like Mirko, is one of those very personable, cool and light hearted guys out of the ring, but JDS and his Portuglish isn't conducive to effecting US marketing, nor does he have the name-clout to even get on TV or any mainstream media, save for MMA radio shows/podcasts.

Pat Barry, like Rampage is incredibly outgoing and shines in the personality department, but Pat has a ways to go as a fighter and Urijah is expected to be a super star in the UFC; an amplified version of his WEC success.
 
VolcomX311 said:
Don't eat meat, wow, so you've got to be pretty versed on pairing your aminos through various veggies, cause you've got great musculature. Do you not eat any meat at all? No fish, maybe not even eggs (embryo). I suppose nuts and seeds have a good source of protein and good fats, but still.
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only eggs, free run lol

more caloric manipulation, and creatine 365days a yr, and protein powders more than the next user

im cutting now, thats the hardest part, seeing im on a diet of powders with eggs, veggies, greek yogurt, not much else (oatmeal and honey for breakfast then only carb source is from the veggies)
when i carb up every 4th day, rice, fruit, i like rice noodles (i kill pasta and miss it right now)

i feel drained, animal rage does the job prewo tho, and i drink alot of map throughout the day to keep aminos high (in between meals, sipping is gross breath wise)

im 31, off n on 9yrs, takes time, guys think andromass or superdrol or whatever is the ticket, its not, its a tool that accounts for 10% of it, and without a good foundation (you have i see), long term this products wont do much

keep up the good work btw, after that 'best thermo ever quote', i was inspired and picked up a pair of the leans to see what all the fuss is about, stack em with eca or clenvis
 
VolcomX311 said:
Yeah, I've been on the Brock train since the get-go, but that's primarily because I was fascinated by his athleticism. I like to root for natural beasts. Brock is certainly a point of contention among "hardcore" MMA fans and I get their arguments and can see why they form the negative opinions of Brock that they do, but I love me some Brock Lesnar. I'll always root for him and he's my favorite fighter in terms of getting me enthused to see him fight; not because i think he's the best by any means, but I see JDS giving him problems and I can't conceive any situations where Brock ever beats Cain.

My favorite fighters would have to be '06 Mirko Cro Cop, BJ Penn, pre M1 Fedor, high hopes for Pat Barry, pre Hollywood Rampage Jackson, Jose Aldo.... just name a few and Brock Lesnar.
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being here in mtl, im partial to gsp, but if i was american for example, id still cheer for him, hes exceptional, but only brock gets me pumped more, once the metallica hits, f***, itll be an exciting next 15min

aldo is incredible, and on the ufc stage, he'll get his dues in the p4p discussion
 
I like freak athletes, and Brock is one, he also has great work ethic if you can't get behind that then you have issues imo.
 
ryansm said:
I like freak athletes, and Brock is one, he also has great work ethic if you can't get behind that then you have issues imo.
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out of football since highschool, left on the final cut for the vikings in training camp, thats insane
 
sking6464 said:
being here in mtl, im partial to gsp, but if i was american for example, id still cheer for him, hes exceptional, but only brock gets me pumped more, once the metallica hits, f***, itll be an exciting next 15min

aldo is incredible, and on the ufc stage, he'll get his dues in the p4p discussion
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YES!!! When he came out to Metallica against Cain I was PUMPED. It's a close tie between Brock coming out to Metallica vs Wanderlei Silva coming out to Sandstorm, that's a very, very close one for me as far as getting me amped. BJ Penn has a super cool intro song too, not really an amp song, but I love his Hawaii culture love. I think his song is Hawaii '78 or '76 by IZ.
 
ryansm said:
I like freak athletes, and Brock is one, he also has great work ethic if you can't get behind that then you have issues imo.
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I'm with you. I love his freakish attributes, admirable work ethic and I like that apart from being in marketing mode, he's a real simple & humble guy. Big fan of Brock. I can't tell you how satisfying Lesnar vs Mir II was. What the hell happened to Frank Mir anyway? He was on a come back train, it completely derailed by the Mirko fight and then his name vanished from all relevant MMA news. Isn't he fighting Roy Nelson next?
 
sking6464 said:
out of football since highschool, left on the final cut for the vikings in training camp, thats insane
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He was only cut because of his age, too. If he did go with football, he'd easily be all-pro due to his athleticism and work ethic.
 
Day 21

I think I posted that I needed some R&R from the cardio tip, but that didn't happen. I just did cardio last night and may do a double body part tonight.

Stairclimber; Lvl 7 for 30 min
Treadmill Incline HIIT 1min:1min sprint/walk for 20 min

Rodja asked if I had any kind of BF testing or anything that would indicate weight loss in the waste area (as oppose to self canabilizing muscle) and this was the best thing I could come up with.


This is my INZER, 13mm Lever, Power Belt

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Ohhhhh, Ahhhhhh.


Here, you can see where my buckle was when I first started my cut, its the most faded crease near the top end. You should see four squares, as I've had to drop the buckle down four times since my cut began.

I bought the belt when I was 220lbs, used it at 220lbs for a few months and began my cut when I was 220lbs. You can see how I've had to progressively move the buckle further and further down.

The latest, my prominent crease is where it was about 20 days ago when I started AH/AL and as you can see, I've had to move it down one more buckle as of recent.

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Nice belt (and diet A&W)!
 
Rodja said:
That's a serious belt. I have a 10mm and am still breaking it in over 4 months later.
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Sh1t thats the truth I have a forever belt and its still stiff lol
 
Is it bad that I don't use a belt?
 
Milas said:
Is it bad that I don't use a belt?
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No. There are only two "main" reasons that I say you "need' a belt. One, you are a genuine power lifter and you're hoisting hundreds & hundreds & hundreds of pounds all the time. Two, you have a prior back injury. I have a prior slip disc and that's a forever problem.
 
Ive got a prior back injury as well and so now its a must on squats and dl.. dont wanna chance it.

I injured mine outside the gym, so it really messed with my head.
 
VolcomX311 said:
No. There are only two "main" reasons that I say you "need' a belt. One, you are a genuine power lifter and you're hoisting hundreds & hundreds & hundreds of pounds all the time. Two, you have a prior back injury. I have a prior slip disc and that's a forever problem.
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There is one more reason Sam.... you're fuggin old and only use one for heavy deads...:439:
 
SouthernCharm said:
Ive got a prior back injury as well and so now its a must on squats and dl.. dont wanna chance it.

I injured mine outside the gym, so it really messed with my head.
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My original injury occurred outside the gym as well, but the 5-6 times I've re-aggravated it has been from the gym, so I don't chance it anymore either.
 
ryansm said:
Well given the ruptured discs and pulling very heavy weight, I'm already there:)

I just do not agree with them personally for several reasons
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Care to elaborate? I know you have more experience than 99.999% of this board when it comes to training.
 
Rodja said:
Care to elaborate? I know you have more experience than 99.999% of this board when it comes to training.
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I'm not against them per se. However, my issues are for one, the majority of those who use them use them incorrectly/rely on them, secondly training core strength while working compound movements is more important than relying on a belt. In my opinion if you are maxing with gear i.e. squat suit, knee wraps etc then yes it may be advisable since the weight one would use is more than their raw lift. But if you are maxing raw, then your core strength should be on par<this is my biggest issue. I think most individuals rely too much on outside help as opposed to understanding that core strength is just as important as the movement itself when improving in the lifts and overall functional strength. And I hate it when I see someone wearing a belt to do curls:banghead:
 
i dont care for belts, i dont even have one
 
ryansm said:
Well given the ruptured discs and pulling very heavy weight, I'm already there:)

I just do not agree with them personally for several reasons
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Edit. Never mind, you already answered. I do agree.
 
ryansm said:
Well given the ruptured discs and pulling very heavy weight, I'm already there:)

I just do not agree with them personally for several reasons
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yah I am half way there, like I said deads only, it reallydoes prevent me from pulling that muscle at the top of my glute. I call it my deadlift muscle...I pulled it years ago when lifting a drill bit back when I was a roughneck and deads are effected.
 
DreamWeaver said:
yah I am half way there, like I said deads only, it reallydoes prevent me from pulling that muscle at the top of my glute. I call it my deadlift muscle...I pulled it years ago when lifting a drill bit back when I was a roughneck and deads are effected.
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Never knew you worked in the oil industry back in the day Doug, learn something new everyday.
 
ryansm said:
I'm not against them per se. However, my issues are for one, the majority of those who use them use them incorrectly/rely on them, secondly training core strength while working compound movements is more important than relying on a belt. In my opinion if you are maxing with gear i.e. squat suit, knee wraps etc then yes it may be advisable since the weight one would use is more than their raw lift. But if you are maxing raw, then your core strength should be on par<this is my biggest issue. I think most individuals rely too much on outside help as opposed to understanding that core strength is just as important as the movement itself when improving in the lifts and overall functional strength. And I hate it when I see someone wearing a belt to do curls:banghead:
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I completely agree with you on most not knowing how to use them properly. I see so many guys walking around with them on during their whole session with enough space to fit a fist through.
 
ryansm said:
I'm not against them per se. However, my issues are for one, the majority of those who use them use them incorrectly/rely on them, secondly training core strength while working compound movements is more important than relying on a belt. In my opinion if you are maxing with gear i.e. squat suit, knee wraps etc then yes it may be advisable since the weight one would use is more than their raw lift. But if you are maxing raw, then your core strength should be on par<this is my biggest issue. I think most individuals rely too much on outside help as opposed to understanding that core strength is just as important as the movement itself when improving in the lifts and overall functional strength. And I hate it when I see someone wearing a belt to do curls:banghead:
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I hear ya, I agree with the gist of your sentitment. For me, I wear my belt when my low back is in a compromising position. As a result of my slip disc, I'm told that my lumber had healed with a curvature, making my hips slightly tilt toward a particular side (so my feet don't line up as they should, one appears shorter then the other when lined up due to this hip tilt) and that my lumbar has been muscle bound in this position, meaning my erectors healed and formed around my lumbar in a manner that holds it in a tilt, therefore, no matter how tight and pure my form is in particular movements, ie. BB row, Deadlifts, O-lifts, even heavy shrugs, my lumbar is vulnerable to some kind of severe re-aggravation, generally effecting my left erector spinae.

In my personal situation, its less about using a belt to make up for inadequate core strength as much as its about forcing my lumber to be as straight as possible, or at least as straight and tight as it can achieve. However, as my core strength improves, it does seem to raise that threshold of what it takes to cause an erector strain out of nowhere, but I'll never be fully all raw on lifts like BB rows, Deads..... Squats, not so much, but given that I've only started to squat again about a month ago, I'm giving myself some time before weaning off the belt in this exercise.
 
Update

Yesterday was day one of weaning off of caffeine. No more coffee, not even tea. I stopped coffee about two weeks ago, but then I'd end up having 2-3 24oz cups of tea a day and I was just exchanging coffee caff for the same equivalent in tea caff. I ended up having a severe headache all day from the caff withdrawal. I went to the gym and got my cardio in, but then my head hurt too bad and I felt excessively drained, either from my first day without caffeine or I'm lethargic.

I ended up having a footlong sub last night with 3 SlinSanes because I felt so drab and my 6th meal with just a salad, since my 5th meal (subway) was so calorically dense.

I woke up this morning at 206!!!! Damn that's some glyocogen storage, WTF! Or it's the garden of lettuce I ate for dinner last night, because I was starving and I ate that salad kind of late, I don't know.

I'm trying to decide whether I need to take a break for the weekend, including missing out on tonight's back workout. I've still not come to the conclusion as to why I've been so beat up lately. Either it was from adrenal fatigue from prolonged, excessive caff intake, or overtraining or if its supp related lethargy. This is why I'm stopping all caff intake so I can weed out one culprit. If I start to feel refreshed, then I'll know it was the caffeine and adrenal fatigue. I'll see how this day goes.
 
Perhaps on-cycle related lethargy? I know the AndroLean should help with that with the 5-DHEA, but perhaps not enough for you? AndroHard should also help with aggression and wanting to work out, but I don't know about "energy" per se.
 
Milas said:
Perhaps on-cycle related lethargy? I know the AndroLean should help with that with the 5-DHEA, but perhaps not enough for you? AndroHard should also help with aggression and wanting to work out, but I don't know about "energy" per se.
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I'm only going to take a 2 week break from caff I think, so in case it is cycle related lethargy, I won't be half-stepping for too long.
 
its probably adrenal fatigue. im battling some of the same thing right now. jacking yourself up on caffeine if you are already tired is a recipe for disaster. try to get more sleep and take some adaptogens, they've been helping me greatly. (ashwaganda, rhodiola, L-theanine, asian ginseng)
 
AntonG42O said:
its probably adrenal fatigue. im battling some of the same thing right now. jacking yourself up on caffeine if you are already tired is a recipe for disaster. try to get more sleep and take some adaptogens, they've been helping me greatly. (ashwaganda, rhodiola, L-theanine, asian ginseng)
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I agree, its like beating a dead horse when you take high doses of caffeine of an extended period.

I'll look into the adpaptogens, Rhodiola isn't cheap from what I remember, but Ashwaganda isn't too bad I think.
 
VolcomX311 said:
I agree, its like beating a dead horse when you take high doses of caffeine of an extended period.

I'll look into the adpaptogens, Rhodiola isn't cheap from what I remember, but Ashwaganda isn't too bad I think.
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rhodiola is like $9 at NP, will last a long time since a recommended amount to take is no more than 2-3 a day.
 
3 slin sane's holy crap lol.

Id say push through it or just deload this week(if it works with your schedule). I had quite a ****ty day myself in the gym today. Feelsbadman
 
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