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VECTOR pre release leaks and info

Whisky said:
Quick query on vector - are there any pro’s/cons to women using it?

Obviously for most women most aas come with very unwanted side effects. Vector as a natural anabolic therefore shouldn’t have any negatives?

I’m wondering if women would get the same strength and body comp benefits?
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we believe women will indeed benefit from vector.. KJ is running a log in our company subforums that's just starting up~
 
mechka_grizli said:
Lost track of how long ive been on this but had a phenomenal workout. Started with the machine incline press and started at 185. Did 6 sets and the 6th was up to 240lbs and it felt as light as the first one. Tremendous focus and not from any PWO.
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Pretty massive gain. I love those big bursts.
This is what an anabolic should do.^^ When you get in the gym you just feel stronger, more aggressive. The increase in performance here stems from multiple things but the Beta endorphin increase from the Rehmannaie R is a major contributor. It just gives you such a sick mind muscle connection.
This is one of my favorite aspects of Vector. The increased mind muscle connection.
 
dcoen21 said:
So I have gained 12 lbs in six weeks so I will list everything I take along with my workout schedule.

Monday yoga and abs
Tuesday chest and shoulders
Wednesday off
Thursday legs
Friday biceps triceps
Saturday off
Sunday back forearms

Items I take
Protein
Fish oil/krill oil
Betaine
Turmeric
Hmb fa just started last Thursday
Creatine
Glutamine
Tart cherry
Taurine
Nac
Gut health
Vitamin d
Chlorella

These are my staples except for the free acid which was added last Thursday. One day i forgot to take my does of vector at dinner so I took it before bed woke up the next day feeling extremely rested have been doing it for a couple days now and it’s great.
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12 lbs is solid bro.
Its awesome to see such great gains. Im impressed man because while I know Vector is a huge contributor you have to work hard to make gains.
Keep kicking ass.!!
 
mase1 said:
Vector is great but had to stop from the lethargy. I would blame myself and say I was not eating enough but for me being tired all day just wasn't worth it. Never got the increased hunger, vivid dreams but did get great recomp and libido. Will say load size was reduced but that could be stim related. If I can get another 2 bottles if they ever go on sale I will definitely try it again. I would still say great product for most.
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What a bummer man. EAT!!!!
I was working on an appetite stimulant. I think I need to launch it and do a stack with Vector so that guys eat more.
On the 6th we start selling Vector through other retailers and you might see some stacks and deals.
 
Whisky said:
Quick query on vector - are there any pro’s/cons to women using it?

Obviously for most women most aas come with very unwanted side effects. Vector as a natural anabolic therefore shouldn’t have any negatives?

I’m wondering if women would get the same strength and body comp benefits?
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Women can run yes.
I dont know of any androgenic sides. Some of the ingredients are great specifically for women.
Rehemannaie has been studied to delay or prevent menopause. Its fantastic at managing female hormones. Think of it like a test booster but for women.
The girls I know taking it now LOVE it.
 
LardLungs said:
I know it’s prob been mentioned somewhere pages ago, but how are people dosing FD2 with Vector if you workout after your first meal? 2 FD2 and 2 Vector with first meal before workout? Then one FD2 later in the day?
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I think its best to just spread things out.
Like 1Foll and 2 Vector 3x daily.
 
dcoen21 said:
So I have gained 12 lbs in six weeks so I will list everything I take along with my workout schedule.

Monday yoga and abs
Tuesday chest and shoulders
Wednesday off
Thursday legs
Friday biceps triceps
Saturday off
Sunday back forearms

Items I take
Protein
Fish oil/krill oil
Betaine
Turmeric
Hmb fa just started last Thursday
Creatine
Glutamine
Tart cherry
Taurine
Nac
Gut health
Vitamin d
Chlorella

These are my staples except for the free acid which was added last Thursday. One day i forgot to take my does of vector at dinner so I took it before bed woke up the next day feeling extremely rested have been doing it for a couple days now and it’s great.
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"12 lbs in six weeks" I did the same. Glad to see its working for you! you got any before and after pics?
I was already around 200lb and not a drastic visual diffrence. shows your abound 165. Like to see what 12lbs looks like on your frame.

Must be the Tart Cherry! LMAO
 
LardLungs said:
I know it’s prob been mentioned somewhere pages ago, but how are people dosing FD2 with Vector if you workout after your first meal? 2 FD2 and 2 Vector with first meal before workout? Then one FD2 later in the day?
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I'm using the combination while cutting, and have played around with the dosing of the two to avoid hypo issues and to allow me to avoid using a quick acting carb during my workouts. I take my first dose of 2 caps of vector with breakfast. Shortly before I workout I've been taking 2 caps of FD2 with a banana. With my postworkout meal I take 2 caps of Vector. Then with dinner I take my final 2 caps of Vector and 1 cap of FD2.
 
LardLungs said:
Has anyone read rowz4broz post “GDAs and muscle growth” in the supplement section?

Appears there is a lot of speculation about dosing GDAs post-workout and many seem to disapprove of it in that thread. My question is if FD2 and Vector are considered to have GDA effects, do we really want to be dosing them post-workout? Should there be a window without them post-workout due to their GDA abilities?
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According to the posts in that thread Berberine is what should be avoided close to workouts :)
 
Starting vector tomorrow morning for an 8 week run. Going to be stacking with viron and letrone. Going to be attempting a cut at ~300 below maintenance for the duration.

What’s the consensus on running 2 caps 3x per day over 3 caps 2x per day in a deficit?

What would be the ideal dosing times for vector, viron, and letrone? Workouts are first thing in the morning before work. I generally eat a meal ~30-45 min pre and take a shake post workout.
 
LardLungs said:
Gotcha. Most of them referenced berberine, but some also just said “GDAs” as if other GDAs weren’t necessarily excluded. Does it kind of make sense not to dose them directly post workout tho? If they have an effect of lowering blood sugar, would we want that right after a workout? Or would it be better w/ pre-workout meals and hours after your workout with food?
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I’m def not the SME for gdas! Hence me posting that thread. Your best bet would be asking in that thread cause there were a few people very familiar with the MOA of GDAs
 
omega_spartan said:
Starting vector tomorrow morning for an 8 week run. Going to be stacking with viron and letrone. Going to be attempting a cut at ~300 below maintenance for the duration.

What’s the consensus on running 2 caps 3x per day over 3 caps 2x per day in a deficit?

What would be the ideal dosing times for vector, viron, and letrone? Workouts are first thing in the morning before work. I generally eat a meal ~30-45 min pre and take a shake post workout.
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Wow man good luck cutting calories while running Vector and Letrone! You must have some serious discipline!
 
omega_spartan said:
Starting vector tomorrow morning for an 8 week run. Going to be stacking with viron and letrone. Going to be attempting a cut at ~300 below maintenance for the duration.

What’s the consensus on running 2 caps 3x per day over 3 caps 2x per day in a deficit?

What would be the ideal dosing times for vector, viron, and letrone? Workouts are first thing in the morning before work. I generally eat a meal ~30-45 min pre and take a shake post workout.
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Looking at what people felt when they weren't eating enough, I think you better use Vector on a bulk. Lethargy is something that few people have experienced here. When you eat less, your body will generally be a bit lethargic. Adding Vector to that may not be the best idea.
 
jtmass said:
Looking at what people felt when they weren't eating enough, I think you better use Vector on a bulk. Lethargy is something that few people have experienced here. When you eat less, your body will generally be a bit lethargic. Adding Vector to that may not be the best idea.
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Good point ^
 
i need to pickup another tub before my trip next week. any discount codes for SSS?
EDIT looks like its sold out. where can i get a tub quick
 
jtmass said:
Looking at what people felt when they weren't eating enough, I think you better use Vector on a bulk. Lethargy is something that few people have experienced here. When you eat less, your body will generally be a bit lethargic. Adding Vector to that may not be the best idea.
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Appreciate the feedback! I’m going to see how I respond. With previous cuts I didn’t have many issues with lethargy that some more coffee couldn’t combat, even when down to 1750cal at the end. If I start getting hypo symptoms and can’t find a way around it then I may turn this into an accidental bulk lol.
 
LardLungs said:
So it’s my third day taking FD2 with Vector (which I’ve been on for a while). It’s my first time using FD2 so I’m not sure if that’s the reason for my body’s reaction or what... but I’ve been having some bad stomach pains and diarrhea the past two days. It’s intensified a few hours after FD2 dosing. Is this typical of a first time FD2 user? I read it may take your body some time to adjust? How long should I wait for things to change before I drop it? And is there anything I can do in the meantime besides only taking 1 or 2 pills / day?
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It gives me the runs for about 2 days and then my stools are very very soft for a few days and then Im good to go. Note: I stop taking my Psylium husk when Im on FD2. I never got bad stomach pains.
 
After some time i decided to stop taking vector, got gas then stomach pain, digestive spasm, where u feel you need to **** but just gas..just got worse.. its a shame as have unopened tub and this one left..
 
Glad to hear all the great and positive reviews of Vector! Game changing supplement!
 
00A said:
After some time i decided to stop taking vector, got gas then stomach pain, digestive spasm, where u feel you need to **** but just gas..just got worse.. its a shame as have unopened tub and this one left..
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Is buy that unopened tub and run 1.5 dose for 8 weeks :D
 
00A said:
After some time i decided to stop taking vector, got gas then stomach pain, digestive spasm, where u feel you need to **** but just gas..just got worse.. its a shame as have unopened tub and this one left..
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Is buy that unopened tub and run 1.5 dose for 8 weeks :D
 
00A said:
After some time i decided to stop taking vector, got gas then stomach pain, digestive spasm, where u feel you need to **** but just gas..just got worse.. its a shame as have unopened tub and this one left..
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any chance you want to sell me that tub? i'm leaving monday for a trip and am about to run out of 2nd tub. LMK
 
So I'm going to say something and if it's frowned upon, then so be it. I've never run any hardcore aas or ph's. Hardest things i've run is the ANDRO's. 1 andro, 4 andro, and epi andro. Have run that triple stack 3 times and this stack of folli 2.o & vector is equal to that. Its the same feeling. Massive strength increases, leaning out, weight gain, aggression, muscle fullness, hunger increase, etc

Easily the best natural stack I have ever taken
 
mechka_grizli said:
So I'm going to say something and if it's frowned upon, then so be it. I've never run any hardcore aas or ph's. Hardest things i've run is the ANDRO's. 1 andro, 4 andro, and epi andro. Have run that triple stack 3 times and this stack of folli 2.o & vector is equal to that. Its the same filling. Massive strength increases, leaning out, weight gain, muscle fullness, hunger increase.

Easily the best natural stack I have ever taken
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Yea buddy! FD2 was already a great product with users experiencing great results. Vector is on another level and is a game changing supplement!
 
mechka_grizli said:
So I'm going to say something and if it's frowned upon, then so be it. I've never run any hardcore aas or ph's. Hardest things i've run is the ANDRO's. 1 andro, 4 andro, and epi andro. Have run that triple stack 3 times and this stack of folli 2.o & vector is equal to that. Its the same filling. Massive strength increases, leaning out, weight gain, muscle fullness, hunger increase.

Easily the best natural stack I have ever taken
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Shining a light on this endorsement. Glad this is going well for you!
 
mechka_grizli said:
So I'm going to say something and if it's frowned upon, then so be it. I've never run any hardcore aas or ph's. Hardest things i've run is the ANDRO's. 1 andro, 4 andro, and epi andro. Have run that triple stack 3 times and this stack of folli 2.o & vector is equal to that. Its the same feeling. Massive strength increases, leaning out, weight gain, aggression, muscle fullness, hunger increase, etc

Easily the best natural stack I have ever taken
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damn bro~ congrats on your success!
 
For those guys who are running it already like 8 weeks or more, do effects still get better?

I am adding weight to my lifts basically every workout by now. Kinda wonder where the limit is and where it will be diminishing returns, I am about 7 weeks in (a bit less). And it really started to shine from week 5 onwards.

Can you run this stuff forever or should you cycle it?
 
mbonheur said:
For those guys who are running it already like 8 weeks or more, do effects still get better?

I am adding weight to my lifts basically every workout by now. Kinda wonder where the limit is and where it will be diminishing returns, I am about 7 weeks in (a bit less). And it really started to shine from week 5 onwards.

Can you run this stuff forever or should you cycle it?
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Good Question. I plan on running this for awhile (4 months to see if the returns diminish). I never ran it for more than 7 weeks. I'm on my 3rd week after taking a 5 weeks off. I'm getting more of a recomp now. I can now control my hunger somewhat! We will see how it goes...
 
I’ve started to notice that my load has gotten significantly less when ejaculating.

Anybody else found this?
 
Interesting what type of stuff you guys notice. Haven't observed anything like this with regard to ejaculations or beard growth
 
7 weeks here. Facial hair seems to have slowed down some. As far as the baby batter, no idea, my girl takes care of the mess. Strength and fullness continue, along with my hunger. Weight is up about 8-10lbs. No lethargy, actually seem to have more endurance and energy.
 
GreenMachineX said:
Has anyone done blood work and seen if there hematocrit and hemoglobin increased?
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I had pre Vector bloods done and will be getting post Vector bloods done.

I have 3 bottles, just started week 5 (so second bottle), and still debating if I want to do an 8 or 12 week cycle.

So far I *think* I'm noticing a bump in strength. Things are starting to feel light.. Like not only am I hitting weight PR's but also rep PR's..

If this trend continues into next week, I think I'll have to thank Vector for the strength.
 
blongo804 said:
I had pre Vector bloods done and will be getting post Vector bloods done.

I have 3 bottles, just started week 5 (so second bottle), and still debating if I want to do an 8 or 12 week cycle.

So far I *think* I'm noticing a bump in strength. Things are starting to feel light.. Like not only am I hitting weight PR's but also rep PR's..

If this trend continues into next week, I think I'll have to thank Vector for the strength.
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So 2 more months until those labs?
 
Just an update... Went on a guys trip last week. Brought my vector, glycoshield, DCP, fol, and letrone. We played golf during the day, ate crap food the entire trip and consumed way, way too much alcohol on the trip. Not one weight was touched and not a minute of cardio. Came back Monday early morning... Had a large meatball sub and chilli cheese burgers on the way home. I was scared to jump on the scale. Prior to leaving I was 211 ( my leanest since the early 2000's) Weight on Monday morning 212.8 ! I was super pumped !
 
mbonheur said:
Another workout in, another bench PR. I really wonder what's in this product that makes it so good for strength.
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Man O' Man! That's amazing.
It's not just one thing my man, it's the combination of all three main ingredients and the strength of the constituents derived from them. Nobody can do this like Black Lion Research because they don't take the right steps to get those results. It may not have the prettiest label, but what's inside goes to 11.
 
mbonheur said:
Another workout in, another bench PR. I really wonder what's in this product that makes it so good for strength.
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Yeah, I agree, it really is good for strength, and after 7 weeks still working strong. I also really like that you can eat more and Vector is definately helping the muscles use the extra nutrition.
Really impressive product.
 
FatAngel said:
"Nobody can do this" lol chill with the hyperbole bro. I'm intrigued by Vector but equally intrigued by K1ngs Slayer, and saying nobody else can do this is a slap in the face to OL and other great companies.
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Strong first post bro.

I didn't mention any brands my man. Maybe let's leave competitor's names out of this sub-forum please.
 
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