There is nothing clear about that. Lol...wait, whose left are we talking about.You need your vision checked lol arms are clearly bigger on the left!
There is nothing clear about that. Lol...wait, whose left are we talking about.You need your vision checked lol arms are clearly bigger on the left!
You been using too much ARA brah....You need your vision checked lol arms are clearly bigger on the left!
I agree...I think the lighting and shadows are throwing both pictures off.
Its a secondary now. Will likely not be for a while as we had to drop some ingredients that didnt seem to work well enough for BLR standards.Any updates on the second anabolic.
congrats on your success!!! keep us abreast of your thoughts as you get close to the end of the 4th bottle.New PR on my bench and I received another two bottles of Vector today. Already interested if effects are getting better at 3-4 bottles. I plan to run 4 bottles in a row
This is freaking ridiculous in such a good way! Legit, and yes keep us informed as to your progress.New PR on my bench and I received another two bottles of Vector today. Already interested if effects are getting better at 3-4 bottles. I plan to run 4 bottles in a row
Dude seriously. I'm over you. Period.Seems like perfect timing...
Out of curiosity, can you define what “BLR standards” are? Is it just arbitrary terminology or are there authentic standards that your company has published? Genuinely curious. I ask because one of my friends has his CSCC and will probably be a collegiate strength and conditioning coach some time soon. As a Vector user, I would love to show him this product so he can look into it for his athletes... that’s thousands of dollars here in potential growth for you... but I wouldn’t even be able to get him to take the product seriously if he just glanced at the current label. Most professionals would look at this label and shake their head no without a second thought. I know we all like to joke that poor-quality labels look like they’re from an underground market, and we think we’re getting a secret supplement that only a few people know about, but why wouldn’t you want to expand your customer base? When is the old label going to be fixed? We’re going on 2 months now since the release and the initial label controversy when it seemed to be settled that a more professional label will be created... where do we stand in regards to that? If “BLR standards” is an all-encompassing term for professionalism, trustworthiness and credibility, when will a Vector label that’s not filled with editing and grammar errors be made?
I know I’m about to unleash the roaches, but it’s been 7+ weeks and if you have the gall to use “BLR standards” as a reason something was shelved, what’s the reason there hasn’t been a change in the error-laden Vector label?
Either quit the bull**** or you will be removed.Hey now, to be fair I have one other post in there... and thanks for the rep points... shh I won’t tell Brundel he has Lord Varys on his team.
He's got 72 post's most or all of which are bs negative comments in this thread.This guy with the label
Pretty sure the last 30 pages of this thread speak for the product itself
Lethargy/tiredness does not mean Vector decreased your T. Example, KME and Japonica both can have sedative effects in some people. your Tiredness / Fatigue can be due to many things.Really struggling with lethargy and tiredness on this, wake up shattered and continues throughout the day. The coffees are on another level lol.
I know you said has minimal if no effects on test, but I’m also noticing little things like beard growth has slowed down considerably. So I’m guessing it’s down to lower test
On the plus side I am gaining size
Strong first post.Duuude. This. Figured I'd chime in bc I have the SAME exact problem. Been on vector for a few weeks now and my libido is shot, mood has been generally lower and I noticed I don't have to shave as often as I normally do (all signs of lower T). However.... I'm stronger. Like noticeably stronger. So I'm going to keep using (for now) bc I like the results I'm getting in the gym. I just really don't like the sides outside of it. Hope this stuff isn't spiked.
Gravy Vampire?Strong first post.
What’s in it is on the label bro.
Member since 9 hours ago....
I ran it Solo,, but sadly my stomach didnt like it.Would kill to see a vector log only taking stuff you’d consider a staple and not add in anything else lol. Like a stim/pump product they have been taking and either Ergonine or the constitutes that lie in and a protein powder, that’s it...
I'm sure many are down to basics like myself.Would kill to see a vector log only taking stuff you’d consider a staple and not add in anything else lol. Like a stim/pump product they have been taking and either Ergonine or the constitutes that lie in and a protein powder, that’s it...
couldn't hurt... theres either a butt load of placebo going around or this stuff is strait up legit for most users who have posted~As soon as we are done with this Spartan trifecta training ( my wife signed us up to run all 3 Spartan races this weekend) I plan to go back to some strength training again. I think I am going to give this a go. Enough anecdotal evidence in here on strength improvement to peak my curiosity.
I don't take anything else with it either, except for staples, but too lazy for a log.Would kill to see a vector log only taking stuff you’d consider a staple and not add in anything else lol. Like a stim/pump product they have been taking and either Ergonine or the constitutes that lie in and a protein powder, that’s it...
I think you are going to love it so much, you're going to invest in a long run of it.Started Vector today with FD2...I'll give a report on it in a few weeks. I've already ran FD2 for 2+ months so I don't believe that will skew my results on Vector.
If I see decent results after a month I will def get a second tub of it.I think you are going to love it so much, you're going to invest in a long run of it.
Yah I might have to talk to some of the local teams.The nice thing about that is we all know a Certified Strength and Conditioning Coach wouldn’t actually ever endorse supplements outside of Creatine and Protein. Bottom line and we all know why...the research around it. Most collegiate teams do indeed employ Registered Dietitians who take care of nutritional and supplemental needs of athletes and none of those companies used are mainstream. Just food for thought of anyone was curious. It’s genuinely out of scope for an individual with a CSCS or equivalent to make that recommendation professionally when there are other individuals to take care of that.
With that in mind, imagine a Football team on Vector!!! Holy crap the gains with an unlimited meal plan!!! That be something to see!
I’m glad to see so many people seeing PRs and success toward their summer goals while using this!
So far I have seen labs that indicate the opposite with regards to test. I dont think this is to blame.Really struggling with lethargy and tiredness on this, wake up shattered and continues throughout the day. The coffees are on another level lol.
I know you said has minimal if no effects on test, but I’m also noticing little things like beard growth has slowed down considerably. So I’m guessing it’s down to lower test
On the plus side I am gaining size
Follow the directions in the post I sent to the guy before you.Duuude. This. Figured I'd chime in bc I have the SAME exact problem. Been on vector for a few weeks now and my libido is shot, mood has been generally lower and I noticed I don't have to shave as often as I normally do (all signs of lower T). However.... I'm stronger. Like noticeably stronger. So I'm going to keep using (for now) bc I like the results I'm getting in the gym. I just really don't like the sides outside of it. Hope this stuff isn't spiked.
Lots of guys doing this. Logs maybe not but plenty of people running just Vector.Would kill to see a vector log only taking stuff you’d consider a staple and not add in anything else lol. Like a stim/pump product they have been taking and either Ergonine or the constitutes that lie in and a protein powder, that’s it...
I think youll be pleasantly surprised.As soon as we are done with this Spartan trifecta training ( my wife signed us up to run all 3 Spartan races this weekend) I plan to go back to some strength training again. I think I am going to give this a go. Enough anecdotal evidence in here on strength improvement to peak my curiosity.
The beard is growing but holy **** your BLIND@!!!!!!!My beard has been growing like wild fire View attachment 164379
In all seriousness tho I did mention similar effects to brundel in regards to lethargy/hypo effects. When I hit the gym and am cranked on bangs and/or my pre I have killer workouts, but during the day at work I’m dragging hard. I definitely attribute this to needing more calories. I’ve been on vector 3 full weeks now with no dietary changes aside from a weekly cheat meal which I hadn’t done for years....
As of today I think I am ready to begin upping my calories since vector is most definitely requiring this now. It really started to kick in around the ten day mark and I’ve been thinking I was just not getting enough sleep or hydrating but I addressed those factors and still have the lethargy. I’m ok with it though. I love to eat.
Funny you say that. My first cheat was about 1,000 Cals over maintenance and I woke up the next day looking and feeling fantastic, but quickly found myself depleted within another day or two. Guess I know what needs to be done now lol. Since I do follow Keto, I’ll likely add cals from equal fat and proteinThe beard is growing but holy **** your BLIND@!!!!!!!
Yah bro food is the key to life on the Vector. IM eating well over 1000 cals above maintenance and its getting real.
Really am eating as much as possible, haven’t seen huge hunger increase like others stated though tbh. Maybe not eating at right timesSo far I have seen labs that indicate the opposite with regards to test. I dont think this is to blame.
My guess is its a glucose thing. This has been indicated numerous times.
Ways to combat this=
Before bed have a nice snack with some carbs and fat. I do trail mix with dark chocolate chips in it. A few handfuls gets me through the night without feeling like death in the morning.
Once you wake up. Have some fast carbs. A glass of juice or something.
Overall increase cals. If you have done this and still feel this way this indicates your body can take more. INcrease further.
Keep in mind your not natural currently. The body is taking in alot more than normal. Pulling carbs into muscles and protein synthesis is greatly improved.
Eat eat eat.
It doesn’t seem like it, I haven’t seen one log that has Atleast 1 other thing than can be considered a natural anabolic.Lots of guys doing this. Logs maybe not but plenty of people running just Vector.
Stuff works great solo.
It also works great stacked as well
My friend is entering a natural comp tomorrow and hes running only BLR products...the guy is frigging peeled.
Try looking at how long they've been taking everything prior to introducing Vector as well.It doesn’t seem like it, I haven’t seen one log that has Atleast 1 other thing than can be considered a natural anabolic.
How long into the run did you stop?Vector is great but had to stop from the lethargy. I would blame myself and say I was not eating enough but for me being tired all day just wasn't worth it. Never got the increased hunger, vivid dreams but did get great recomp and libido. Will say load size was reduced but that could be stim related. If I can get another 2 bottles if they ever go on sale I will definitely try it again. I would still say great product for most.
This is exactly how I have been dosing it. This dosing scheme seems to work well for me.How long into the run did you stop?
Did you try dosing 1 cap at a time?
I found it took me a good two weeks to discover that 2-3 caps at once gave me the same side effects you are reporting. I switched to 1 cap x 4 for a few days and then 1 cap x 6. Now I dose 1 cap most of the time but use 2 caps around bigger meals / eating windows.
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