VECTOR pre release leaks and info
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lilbigman15
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Looks like Day 5-8 is where it kicks in...
anabolix
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I have been taking it for a week and 1/2, and don't notice any libido or erection enhancing benefits whatsoever. This isn't why I'm taking Vector, but I'm beginning to wonder if the androgenic/libido comments others have made might be placebo induced.
GoofyKai
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A week and a half isn't any significant amount of time. I couldn't imagine hormonal changes taking place in 10-11 days. Even if someone did, no one responds the same. I would reassess at the 30 and 60 day mark.
anabolix
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There aren't many things that take longer than than this to notice libido changes, and I've heard it said that it should take about this long to see these changes. There are several in this thread alone that are already claiming these effects. 30-60 days?? So you are saying the libido effects shouldn't be noticed until after your cycle of Vector is finished? I don't agree with what you are saying, I was just giving my .02 on libido changes, since many are already saying they notice a difference.
machine528
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Just got my bottle! I am looking for a recomp with as much fat loss as possible. Stack is Follidrone, Letrone, Vector, Glycoshield and Defuse for the next 30 days. Any thoughts on this ? Cut anything out ?
jt75
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Vector is a wet mass gainer that exhibits some fat loss properties, how can you know the effectiveness of Vector when you're taking so many other supplements?
Danes
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EvanMan
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I found a research paper the other day on where they gave korean mistletoe to old rats and their muscle fibers improved dramatically. It had pictures of the cross section of muscle fibers and they didnt even look the same after supplementation. Thats just one of the ingredients so good stuff. I would post a link but I dont have 100 post yet.
jt75
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I've great hopes for Vector but after the flu like symptoms the other day I now have crippling stomach pain for the last 12 hours but don't think it's anything in Vector, I've narrowed it down to optizinc which I started yesterday and took it today as soon as I awoke. That seemed to be the culprit as a quick search confirmed that it should NEVER be taken in an empty stomach. Lesson learned!
brundel
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THIS^^ is why I started doing what I do.
I work so hard to bring new and innovative stuff to market. But not just innovative. Effective.
And, nothing makes me happier than reading posts like this. When someone who hasnt used our products gives them a shot and sees that its not all marketing BS and hype. The products really work
Seriously makes the work worth it.Im happy to hear its working already. The hunger is a gift.
FOOD is the most anabolic thing around. Get on the dinner train.
brundel
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I think as long as you spread em out its all good. And as long as your eating enough overall you can take on empty stomach.
Just make sure overall cals are higher than normal and your not skimping on carbs.
GoofyKai
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Considering I have seen most people say they bought 3 bottles. 30 - 60 days wouldn't be the end of anyone's cycle. Also I stated before that even for the ones that have noticed libido changes, everyone will respond different. So to expect a libido change so quickly and/or at all would be silly. There is no should take this long or should take that long with natural supplements. You respond or you don't. Even If you do respond there is no guarantee you respond the way someone else did. The point I was trying to make to the OP is to not feel let down or doubt the product is working, just because you don't feel libido effects. Be patient. The 30-60 was just a reference point nothing in stone.
brundel
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So, plants all have different chemical constituents. Meaning they contain a number of different chemicals.
Some of the strongest chemicals known to man are contained and isolated from plants including many narcotics, heroin, meth, cocaine, cathinone, DMT
Chemo drugs, and alot of prescription medications are derived from plants.
And there are literally hundreds of thousands or millions of different chemicals from plants. Some will kill you within minutes of administration.
So, techinically its impossible you dont respond to "plants" in general.
It is possible you got crappy supplements because there are also thousands of those around. Im not surprised you dont have faith but dont let someone elses crap products effect your opinion of ours.
Ours are different. We use the highest grade ingredients, at doses proven to work.
This is also not a libido supplement. Its an anabolic. Some guys have mentioned libido increase but not all so I wouldnt go into it expecting this or specifically for this purpose.
If you want libido try Viron.
brundel
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Follidrone is very good for gaining muscle but its also extremely good at partitioning carbs and burning fat and most people dont eat nearly enough just to start with. Frankly speaking about 90% of people dont eat enough to really "bulk".
So guys go into it thinking they will take Follidrone and magically gain all this muscle but you need bricks to build a wall. And new bricks.
If you progressively increase calories on follidrone youll grow like a weed. And youll grow much faster than without FOll and much leaner.
Pauls brother ran a Foll bulk and gained 17lbs. But he knows how to eat.
Vector just makes you crave food.
And it does increase anabolic hormones and glucose uptake into muscles and protein synthesis etc etc etc.
Because its easier to eat its easier to grow.
brundel
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That IS something to report.
Go with it. Eat up. Its the first and most important step to build muscle
brundel
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brundel
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The hypo was making me nauseated when I first started my cut. I had to eat glucose tabs a few times to stop it. Thought I was sick at first but I tested my glucose and it was extremely low. So I just started adding cals and it was amazing how quick I grew.
Cant wait to see what you think after 4 weeks or so.
brundel
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Just gets better and better.
brundel
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This is why I mentioned not taking it with this expectation. It may or may not effect libido. Its not meant to.
Just a side effect that was mentioned by many.
Everyones HPTA is different. Some peoples are healthy some are not, some are non functioning whether they know or not.
Muscle growth, Fat loss, performance enhancement. This is where Vector shines.
If it happens to put some more lead in the ole pencil. Sweet
brundel
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Right. We also dont expect everyone to respond the same.
Nothing on earth has a 100% efficacy. even the strongest drugs have an effect curve.
I saw changes within the first month but having used my fair share of PEDs I can tell you guys that even AAS take time to really effect your physique.
You might see acute performance enhancement. Most seem to.
But the real like physique changes take time. Which is why the transformation contest is 12 weeks long.
brundel
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Have you tried carbs?
Like literally drink a gatorade when the headache kicks in.
Try that.
Then do me a favor. Do you have benadryl? Try taking a benadryl with it. So I can see if its some weird histamine response or something.
Ultimately Id like to know why
brundel
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Might want to get a glucose meter
dont be afraid to have some glucose tabs on hand. Follidrone, Glycoshield, Vector......glucose -0
brundel
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I dont think his goal is to assess Vector for efficacy.
I think his goal is extreme recomp. Thats one hell of a stack.
If you cant recomp on that stack its just not meant to be.
brundel
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Yah man the KME is great stuff.
And if you keep digging into the eriobotrya and Rehmannaie youll see they are all equally impressive.
Combined.....I really do think this is the strongest OTC anabolic around.
brundel
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Yah watch that stuff man. I dont do any vitamins etc on empty stomach. nausea city.
brundel
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Yah there is one with a 112% increase in endurance. I dont know of too many things that can do that.
Combined with Vectors other effects its not only a huge performance enhancing agent but mass builder, fat burner....strength.....
EvanMan
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During my workout tonight I was stronger than during my S4 cycle and I'm in the middle of PCT right now. I sweated like a mofo also. A lot more than usual.
So I'm basically taking Vector, diesel test v3, clomid, inhibit-e, vitamins and feeling better than when I was cycling S4 and cardarine. LOL. Interested to see how my strength keeps going up. I have not changed diet either. Endurance was definitely up tonight too!!!
unitas27
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Yup optizinc messed up my stomach as well. Pick up some zinc-l-carnosine, much better response, no stomach pain, and actually protects stomach lining according to the research.
jgntyce
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My endurance has gotten even better while on Vector. I do a lot of HIIT workouts using jump ropes and kettlebells. My stamina has gone up!
machine528
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Correct ! I have honestly been amazed with my Follidrone, Glycoshield and Defuse stack. My diet is 70 percent clean but I have always had a crazy metabolism. It has been years since I looked in the mirror and said wow I look good ! Those three supplements got me there. My goal is to keep my strength and possible gain strength ( if possible) while continuing to shed weight. I not only want to look good but still be able to perform in the sports I play. I still play in a baseball league at 37, basketball and compete in Amateur golf. With work, working out, cardio, practice and life I am looking for any edge I can get !
bcrocker
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I too noticed a substantial feeling of overall well-being and energy after a couple of days on the Vector! its nice!
machine528
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I am two days into vector and my mood is amazing..... don't know if it is from the vector or because I am so excited to be taking vector.... either way its from the vector
justhere4comm
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You guys are blowing me away with your posts, ever time I come into this thread!
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taylor8461
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The hunger just gets strongerrrr
cbr1000rr
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Have you tried carbs?
Like literally drink a gatorade when the headache kicks in.
Try that.
Then do me a favor. Do you have benadryl? Try taking a benadryl with it. So I can see if its some weird histamine response or something.
Ultimately Id like to know why
No headache yet today but i will definitely try the Gatorade. If that fails i should have an anti-histamine somewhere in my desk. I'm inclined to think it is a histamine response because the headaches are usually coupled with sinus congestion and a runny nose. The 'stuffed head' feeling is similar to when taking cialis/viagra
ELROCK
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I been experiencing very similar effects. I also notice more muscle fullness then crazy pumps but better pumps too.
brundel
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brundel
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These are all the same reports we are hearing from everyone else.
Pumps /Check
Hungry as F/ Check
Wellbeing and mood/ Check
Im just glad everyone is enjoying it. Makes me super happy.
brundel
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brundel
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Yah I think its a histamine response.
If your are eating enough overall I would go right to the benadryl or claritin. Not sure which will help. But benadryl makes most people tired while claritin amps most people up.
Studhorse
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Might try claritin. you can get the generics pretty cheap.