VECTOR pre release leaks and info

Subbed again...for some reason I stopped getting notifications of recent posts in this thread :(

I don’t want to be missing anything!
 
jt75 said:
It's not on the home page I just checked, think I'm already signed up but went to check and definitely nowhere to sign up on the homepage
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thanks for confirming im not crazy lol
 
Ricky10 said:
Subbed again...for some reason I stopped getting notifications of recent posts in this thread :(

I don’t want to be missing anything!
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You've missed so much Ricky, ingredient 2 and 3 been confirmed and pre sale now over
 
Sorry ricky
 
We had a newsletter signup on first page of our site but it vanished. I added another.
Or you can always go to the contact page.
Best way to be ready is to sign up so when we send the Vector release emails youll get em ;)
 
sweet got it .. thanks
 
brundel said:
We had a newsletter signup on first page of our site but it vanished. I added another.
Or you can always go to the contact page.
Best way to be ready is to sign up so when we send the Vector release emails youll get em ;)
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Can we be added to the VIP newsletter list that goes out an hour before the "regular" newsletter goes out so we can be sure to secure some bottles before they're sold out? Or better yet, this may sound crazy, I'll shoot you my number, can you text me maybe?
 
brundel said:
For those of you who like Follidrone 2.0-insider tip
Strong supplements is having a BLR sale on Sunday. This is ultra rare. I realize people are waiting on vector but if your planning on using both or will use follidrone anyways get it now because it wont be on sale when Vector is!
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Since Nutriverse is down, I will be ordering Follidrone on Sunday from Strongsupps will I need a Promo Code?
 
Is BLR newsletter form working because I did use that sign up form on their main website like 2 weeks ago but not got any confirmation email that I'm signed up to newsletter.

Or any newsletter email or anything to make me know I'm signed up.

Just asking because many websites put on sign up form and they actually NOT work - people think they are signed up but they are not.

No activation link in email sent to confirm subscription or no email telling you that you are signed to newsletter successfully so no way of knowing if you're added or not.

At least welcome email should be sent if you not have double opt in form which is a standard to build mailing list or else it's treated as spam.

Anybody can enter any email to spam other people if double opt in is not used = person has to click on activation link in email to confirm it's he/she that requested to be added to newsletter.
 
This thread is losing steam, let's get some more updates. A bottle deep into fd2 and enjoying it so far. Look forward to combining the two products
 
ironkill said:
This thread is losing steam, let's get some more updates. A bottle deep into fd2 and enjoying it so far. Look forward to combining the two products
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brundel said:
Aiming for March 6th or earlier.
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Vector estimated release date.

brundel said:
Monday probably. Will give me the weekend to get you guys all the data. There is ALOT. Like with Eriobotrya there are a bunch of studies and alot of different things happening. So I want to be sure you guys see everything relevant.
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Monday 2/19 Write up for Ingredient 2.
 
I had 2 True Shred in my cart and added FD2 and that showed up at $0. Then I deleted True Shred and it was back at $50. Added 2 more and it was still $150. Weird. We can only speculate until it happens. Probably a code though.
 
Now im starting to get upset ive been waiting for this sale all week now will someone please make this mysterious sale happen!! The people need their follidrone
 

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ZachH said:
Now im starting to get upset ive been waiting for this sale all week now will someone please make this mysterious sale happen!! The people need their follidrone
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The sucks I was waiting for the Follidrone sale also I waited to order...
 
wesb2387 said:
Y’all can use WES15 at BLR’s website if you need too Works for everything haha
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^This
Strong is not giving any better deal than this!
Expectations and hype were high but giving just 15% discount i won't bother, I'll definitely pass on this one!
 
gnbbc said:
^This
Strong is not giving any better deal than this!
Expectations and hype were high but giving just 15% discount i won't bother, I'll definitely pass on this one!
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Where has anything been said about a sale?! This is BULLSH!T im getting so mad. If its 15% im seriously so done with strong and their JOKE of a sale. Been waiting all week to order 6-10 bottles of follidrone with a big sale and now being let down. Big time.
 
ZachH said:
Where has anything been said about a sale?! This is BULLSH!T im getting so mad. If its 15% im seriously so done with strong and their JOKE of a sale. Been waiting all week to order 6-10 bottles of follidrone with a big sale and now being let down. Big time.
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Email says 15% off
 
As previously stated, Vector is on schedule for a release date of March 6th. I can confirm this as I just spoke to brundel a few minutes ago. I, like all of you, am anticipating the release!
 
ahh123 said:
Is BLR newsletter form working because I did use that sign up form on their main website like 2 weeks ago but not got any confirmation email that I'm signed up to newsletter.

Or any newsletter email or anything to make me know I'm signed up.

Just asking because many websites put on sign up form and they actually NOT work - people think they are signed up but they are not.

No activation link in email sent to confirm subscription or no email telling you that you are signed to newsletter successfully so no way of knowing if you're added or not.

At least welcome email should be sent if you not have double opt in form which is a standard to build mailing list or else it's treated as spam.

Anybody can enter any email to spam other people if double opt in is not used = person has to click on activation link in email to confirm it's he/she that requested to be added to newsletter.
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We just havnt sent out a newsletter in a few weeks.
I suspect we will send one out when I put up ingredient 2.
 
Yes sorry its been slow on info the last few days.
I should be able to get up ingredient 2 soon. 24-48 hours. I just keep finding more data and I want to make sure you guys know everything.
 
Dont stress. One way or another Ill make sure you guys get a sale price.
 
ZachH said:
Where has anything been said about a sale?! This is BULLSH!T im getting so mad. If its 15% im seriously so done with strong and their JOKE of a sale. Been waiting all week to order 6-10 bottles of follidrone with a big sale and now being let down. Big time.
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Pm me
 
GreenMachineX said:
What was ingredient 1?
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It's a timely question, and it could do well for a refresher on ingredient numero uno. Thank you for asking.

ERIOBOTRYA JAPONICA

ERIOBOTRYA JAPONICA -1000mg/100:1 extract. Post 429

Eriobotrya Japonica (EJ) or Loquat is a fruiting plant commonly used for food, added to alcholic beverages and sometimes used for health and longevity. EJ contains a host of interesting chemicals with a number of effects that are beneficial to those looking to build muscle, burn fat or increase athletic performance. Loquat for bodybuilders? On the surface EJ doesnt seem to be super exciting but nothing could be further from the truth.

There have been a number of studies indicating that the proper extract at a high enough dose can lead to gains in muscle mass, strength and fat loss. Studies indicate EJ Increases the expression of myogenic genes MyoD, Myogenin and MyHC. This increased expression corresponds with an increase in the activity of Creatine Kinase a myogenic differentiation marker.

Finally EJ activates the AKT/mTOR pathway and subsequently promotes muscle protein synthesis and a gain in lean muscle mass. In studies EJ was shown to prevent muscle atrophy and increase muscle hypertrophy so its great if your cutting and want to preserve muscle and its great if you want to bulk.


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AKT/Mtor
Akt is known as effector of insulin/IGF-1 signalling and it can induce muscle hypertrophy through a pathway involving rapamycin-sensitive mTOR.

mTOR regulates PGC-1a expression, which is a key regulator of mitochondria biogenesis, and the expression of PGC-1a has been implicated in the control of skeletal muscle mass. The activation of the Akt/mTOR pathway and its downstream targets, p70S6K and PHAS-1/4E-BP1, is requisitely involved in regulating skeletal muscle fiber size. Acute AKT activation also leads to a decrease in adipose tissue (fat loss)

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The pathways that are sufficient to induce hypertrophy in skeletal muscle have been the subject of some controversy. We describe here the use of a novel method to produce a transgenic mouse in which a constitutively active form of Akt can be inducibly expressed in adult skeletal muscle and thereby demonstrate that acute activation of Akt is sufficient to induce rapid and significant skeletal muscle hypertrophy in vivo, accompanied by activation of the downstream Akt/p70S6 kinase protein synthesis pathway.

Upon induction of Akt in skeletal muscle, there was also a significant decrease in adipose tissue. These findings suggest that pharmacologic approaches directed toward activating Akt will be useful in inducing skeletal muscle hypertrophy and that an increase in lean muscle mass is sufficient to decrease fat storage."

MyHC
Myosin heavy-chain synthesis rate is correlated with measures of muscle strength, circulating insulin-like growth factor 1 and
dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate in men and women and free testosterone levels in men.

MyoD
both MyoD and myogenin genes are necessary in the regenerative process for the proliferation of satellite cells (myoblasts) and for the development of early regenerating fibers (myotubes). The expression of Myod is sufficient to convert a fibroblast to a skeletal muscle cell,[/QUOTE]

Lower doses or the incorrect extraction process has been shown to be ineffective so the extraction process is very important with EJ. So lets dig into whats inside the plant itself.
Just a short list of the chemical constituents of EJ-

  • Epicatechin
  • Ursolic acid
  • Chlorogenic acid
  • Corosolic acid
  • Oleanolic acid
  • Caffeic acid
  • Procyanidin B2
  • Protocatechuic acid
  • Ferulic acid
  • Tormentic acid
  • Naringenin
  • Ellagic acid
  • EGCG
  • Quercetin
This is a pretty impressive list of actives. Lets take a look at what some of these do.

Epicatechin.
EJ doesnt have as much epicatechin as something like cocoa or green tea but there is still a decent amount. Its estimated that there is about 150mg per 100g in cocoa and there is about 60mg in EJ so a little less than half. None the less there is enough that epicatechin will be active especially with Narinigenin, EGCG and quercetin in the mix as these all increase the absorption of epicatechin. Lets think of epicatechin as sort of a bonus.

Ursolic acid.
There is a decent dose in here at upwards of 150mg estimated per daily dose of our EJ extract but Ursolic acid is also a major constituent of another of Vectors ingredents giving us approx 300mg + of Ursolic acid per dose. Ursolic acid orally has been show in studies to increase muscle mass, Increase strength, Increase brown fat, Increase glucose utilization and increase exercise capacity. Its been stated that UA is not viable orally but I think I disagree and it seems as though studies also indicate that it is orally active although it has a very poor absorption rate. High doses are required and studies indicate 300+ should be enough orally to produce the desired results.

Corosolic acid.
Corosolic acid is a GDA generally extracted from Banaba (lagerstroemia speciosa) but a significant amount is present in Eribotrya J. Corosolic acid works orally at relatively low doses and has some interesting effects. Even doses of 10mg are viable to display its impressive effects.

Most people have heard of Corosolic acid for its glucose effects as it is a major GDA. Corosolic acid can help to keep glucose down with multiple mechanisms of action. Glut4 translocation, reduced insulin resistance as well as all kinds of enzymatic suppression and or expression.

Corosolic acid has been shown to
- reduce cholesterol levels and
- enhance lipid metabolism

Corosolic acid is also
- a great fat burner not only through antidiabetic effects but also by retarding absorption of fatty acids
- a potent and selective inhibitor of the enzyme (11-beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1)
that converts inactive cortisone to active cortisol.

Therefore, corosolic acid may prevent excessive cortisol production.

Overall Corosolic acid is one of Vectors great components. Increased Glucose uptake into muscles, decreased blood sugar, increased insulin sensitivity, increased fat utilization and decreased fat diposition plus decreased cortisol make Corosolic a powerhouse.

Oleanolic acid
Oleanolic acid (OA) is a constituent of Olea Europea, Viscum Album and Eriobotrya japonica as well as others.
Its long been used in Chinese medicine for treatment of liver disorders and other ailments. OA increases glucose utilization, is a solid vasodilator and increases expression of the AKT pathway.

Protocatechuic acid
  • Insulin like activity by activating PPAPy.
  • Decreases ROS
  • Antiageing
  • Anti inflammatory
  • Antiseptic
  • analgesic
  • GLUT4 upregulation
  • Antioxidant
  • Protects the testes from damage and stress
  • Cardio protective

Caffeic acid
  • Increased exercise capacity
  • Reduced Blood Lactate
  • Increased fat loss
  • Endurance

Ferulic acid, 4-hydroxy-3-methoxycinnamic acid, is one of the most ubiquitous phenolic acids, found in the
bran of grasses such as wheat, rice, and oats. It belongs to the family of plant hydroxycinnamic acids, which
include caffeic acid, sinapic acid, and p-coumaric acid. Recent studies have provided evidence that ferulic acid reduces the risk of disease, including
Alzheimer’s disease, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and colon cancer. Currently, ferulic acid is used to enhance athletic
performance, both in humans and racehorses. Supplementation by it has been found to increase muscle strength in weight lifters.

In one animal study a single acute administration of Ferulic acid increased swimming time by 170%.
Ferulic acid prevented the decrease in catalase, superoxide dismutase and protected against the depletion of GST activity induced by exhaustive
exercise.

Exercise can be associated with oxidative stress. Thus exercise can act as a powerful source of Reactive Oxygen Species, depending on duration and intensity. During exhaustive exercise, fat is typically used as the primary energy source, thus sparing glycogen stores, which in turn retards fatigue. However, during strenuous exercise substantial production of ROS occurs via beta oxidation during the utilization of fat.

In addition, a dramatic increase in oxygen consumption in the body creates an imbalance between ROS and the antioxidant defense system resulting in fatigue.
Acute adminstration of Ferulic acid prevents fatigue, increases endurance and protects the body during exhaustive exercise.

Chlorogenic acid
CA often reffered to as green coffee extract is widely known for its antiobesity effects via PPARa agonism and by preventing proliferation of new fat cells. CA can increase muscular glucose uptake both by stimulating Non insulin dependent AMPK as well as stimulating pAKt. Great for keeping bodyfat off while promoting muscle growth.

Tormentic acid
  • Anti diabetic
  • Glut4
  • AMPK


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1.Loquat leaf extract enhances myogenic differentiation, improves muscle function and attenuates muscle loss in aged rats.
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2.Loquat (Eriobotrya japonica) extract prevents dexamethasone-induced muscle atrophy by inhibiting the muscle degradation pathway in Sprague Dawley rats.
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3.Effect of Loquat Leaf Extract on Muscle Strength, Muscle Mass, and Muscle Function in Healthy Adults: A Randomized, Double-Blinded, and Placebo-Controlled Trial
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4.Ethanol Extract of Eriobotrya japonica Leaves Enhanced Swimming Capacity in Mice
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5.Cell Suspension Culture of Eriobotrya japonica Regulates the Diabetic and Hyperlipidemic Signs of High-Fat-Fed Mice
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6.Tormentic Acid, a Major Component of Suspension Cells of Eriobotrya japonica, Suppresses High-Fat Diet-Induced Diabetes and Hyperlipidemia by Glucose Transporter 4 and AMP-Activated Protein Kinase Phosphorylation
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brundel said:
Yes sorry its been slow on info the last few days.
I should be able to get up ingredient 2 soon. 24-48 hours. I just keep finding more data and I want to make sure you guys know everything.
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Absolutely no reason to be sorry to anyone here. We know you are going to do this right. Hell, even if this doesn't get released until summertime it will probably still be worth it. Take your time.
 
There is a thread on the notification issue, admins need work faster and figure out the problem
 
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