VECTOR pre release leaks and info

00A said:
There is a thread on the notification issue, admins need work faster and figure out the problem
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Is there? Well as long as it’s been looked at, not really a massive problem as I can click on previously subbed threads anyway
 
GreenMachineX said:
Will this product increase hunger the way follidrone does? I’ve always hated that about follidrone.
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This did increase hunger for me but not like FD2. I had to pound carbs on FD2.
It was a more of my muscles screaming for more nourishment than the overwhelming desire for carbs I get with FD2.

Note: I was able to control my calorie intake the last 9 days and dropped some weight on VECTOR.
 
JohnnieFreeze said:
I hear you..being that Im always on a recomp I hate everything that makes me hungry.
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FD2 is my favorite for a recomp! I can pound the carbs, workout longer ,gain more muscle and lose fat.
last 12 weeks cycle I gained 5lbs and lost 2% BF. and I ate like I was on a bulk.
 
only a few days into Follidrone and i can tell my hunger is increasing. I ate a big Acai bowl this morning and by the time i got to work i was starving.
 
cbr1000rr said:
only a few days into Follidrone and i can tell my hunger is increasing. I ate a big Acai bowl this morning and by the time i got to work i was starving.
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Been running FD2 since it came out off and on (mostly on) and the hunger, for me, decreases over time from starting it (again) - less cravings / more manageable.
 
Sorry I havnt been as active. Had a friend die and had to leave the state for a few days. I'm back now though and working on getting data out.
Prob Thurs.
Then the final the week after.
 
And yes...pretty much all the testers mentioned hunger.
This is a beastly muscle builder.
 
brundel said:
Sorry I havnt been as active. Had a friend die and had to leave the state for a few days. I'm back now though and working on getting data out.

Prob Thurs.
Then the final the week after.
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Man. Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend. I'm sure we can all wait however long is necessary.
 
Thanks. I don't want to derail the thread so.....
Should have more data for you guys within 48 hours.
I'm starting to get excited....

We are really close now to vectors release and I'm telling you,...I have yet to see anything that works this good that isn't a steroid.
 
brundel said:
Thanks. I don't want to derail the thread so.....
Should have more data for you guys within 48 hours.
I'm starting to get excited....

We are really close now to vectors release and I'm telling you,...I have yet to see anything that works this good that isn't a steroid.
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Sounds great. Im getting close to PCT. Might throw some in there.
 
bigsmall said:
2 bottles of Folifdrone 2.0 for 75$
nutriverse website is unavailable, but they are still taking orders.
Just email for this deal.
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This is the email I got back from nutriverse support

Hey Michael,

"No we never did 75.99 for 2 bottle combo. Due to our processor issue, 49.99 and 20% off is the best we can do. Thank you!*"

I went ahead and ordered from strong supplements follidroneam25 promo worked
 
migsacura said:
This is the email I got back from nutriverse support

Hey Michael,

"No we never did 75.99 for 2 bottle combo. Due to our processor issue, 49.99 and 20% off is the best we can do. Thank you!*"

I went ahead and ordered from strong supplements follidroneam25 promo worked
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Glad it worked out! It's a great deal at Strong Supplements.
 
Mack19 said:
I've been trying to sign up for the BLR newsletter but I don't think it's going through
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migsacura said:
This is the email I got back from nutriverse support

Hey Michael,

"No we never did 75.99 for 2 bottle combo. Due to our processor issue, 49.99 and 20% off is the best we can do. Thank you!*"

I went ahead and ordered from strong supplements follidroneam25 promo worked
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Glad you got some coming and at a good price. Strange, the guy you were talking too is a moron. Nutriverse had this combo on sale for this price for most of last year and still did as per last week and my email inquiry lol:

From: Support Team <[email protected]>
Sent: February 15, 2018 11:31 AM
To: William Baker
Subject: Re: Folidrone?

F2 is 94.99 for the 2 bottle combo and we can do 20% off plus shipping.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:03 AM, William Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
Do you have the two pack of Folidrone 2.0 still? How much?
 
Mack19 said:
I've been trying to sign up for the BLR newsletter but I don't think it's going through
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Did you already enter it into the sign up window? If so your good to go.
Or you can go to the contact page. You wont receive a verification. Youll just get the next news letter in a few days from now.
 
Are we still going to be able to find out what's in this before it goes on sale? Sorry if I missed it, 30 pages is a lot to read.
 
bigsmall said:
Glad you got some coming and at a good price. Strange, the guy you were talking too is a moron. Nutriverse had this combo on sale for this price for most of last year and still did as per last week and my email inquiry lol:

From: Support Team <[email protected]>
Sent: February 15, 2018 11:31 AM
To: William Baker
Subject: Re: Folidrone?

F2 is 94.99 for the 2 bottle combo and we can do 20% off plus shipping.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 7:03 AM, William Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
Do you have the two pack of Folidrone 2.0 still? How much?
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Don't ask me how I figured this out but, I think suppremacy dot com (I cant post links yet) will replace Nutriverse... But it looks like they're not fully stocked yet. Hopefully they will have deals like new Nutriverse did. Looks like they have some good 2 bottle combos and Vector eventually
 
anabolix said:
Are we still going to be able to find out what's in this before it goes on sale? Sorry if I missed it, 30 pages is a lot to read.
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Yes.
We still hahve 2 weeks before launch.
Ingredient 2 should go up today hopefully. I think I just have to be happy with the data I have in the current writeup and call it a day because I could continue to write and add more and more but I think what I have is enough to go on.
 
migsacura said:
Don't ask me how I figured this out but, I think suppremacy dot com (I cant post links yet) will replace Nutriverse... But it looks like they're not fully stocked yet. Hopefully they will have deals like new Nutriverse did. Looks like they have some good 2 bottle combos and Vector eventually
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Vector will be available only at strong supplements for the first 2 months.
 
brundel said:
Yes.
We still hahve 2 weeks before launch.
Ingredient 2 should go up today hopefully. I think I just have to be happy with the data I have in the current writeup and call it a day because I could continue to write and add more and more but I think what I have is enough to go on.
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u_e_s_i said:
When's the release date for vector? Also, has the ingredients list been released yet?
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Ingredient 1 released and #2 any minute
 
brundel said:
Ok so lets start getting some juicy data out for you guys.
Im going to talk about each ingredient solo. Part of this is so people understand that while this is a blend of 3 ingredients these could easily have been used alone. Each one tested really well by itself. Nonetheless, I wanted Vector to be an impressive product so there are all 3 in 1. There will be 6 caps.
3000mg daily dose.

These days we dont have really many anabolic options. You can go the AAS route of course and you can use whats left of the prohormones like the DHEA derivatives but honestly these are expensive to use at the doses required and most products dont contain enough for them to be viable. In addition they are just as suppressive as running a steroid cycle in most cases so why even bother with them.

With regards to "natural anabolics"...... we have seen some people give valiant efforts but it seems like they keep falling short.
Follidrone 2.0 is good but its a very lean gainer.
We need a solution. VECTOR is that solution.

-You want to grow some legit muscle tissue? Vector can get you there. Even larger guys 240lbs + and Older guys at 54yrs+ have grown upwards of 10+lbs in testing.

-You want to burn fat? Vector is a great anabolic fat burner. 100% of the testers mentioned looking leaner while gaining muscle. There are numerous ways in which Vector helps keep the fat burning off.

-You want performance enhancement? Vector can give you this as well. Studies indicate and our tests indicate that this stuff is a real performance powerhouse increasing endurance, strength and power output.

Ok.... this is alot to claim. I get it.
Lets talk about how this is possible.---------------
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brundel said:
ERIOBOTRYA JAPONICA -1000mg/100:1 extract.
Eriobotrya Japonica (EJ) or Loquat is a fruiting plant commonly used for food, added to alcholic beverages and sometimes used for health and longevity. EJ contains a host of interesting chemicals with a number of effects that are beneficial to those looking to build muscle, burn fat or increase athletic performance. Loquat for bodybuilders? On the surface EJ doesnt seem to be super exciting but nothing could be further from the truth. There have been a number of studies indicating that the proper extract at a high enough dose can lead to gains in muscle mass, strength and fat loss. Studies indicate EJ Increases the expression of myogenic genes MyoD, Myogenin and MyHC. This increased expression corresponds with an increase in the activity of Creatine Kinase a myogenic differentiation marker. Finally EJ activates the AKT/mTOR pathway and subsequently promotes muscle protein synthesis and a gain in lean muscle mass. In studies EJ was shown to prevent muscle atrophy and increase muscle hypertrophy so its great if your cutting and want to preserve muscle and its great if you want to bulk.
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AKT/Mtor
Akt is known as effector of insulin/IGF-1 signalling and it can induce muscle hypertrophy through a pathway involving rapamycin-sensitive mTOR.
mTOR regulates PGC-1a expression, which is a key regulator of mitochondria biogenesis, and the expression of PGC-1a has been implicated in the control of skeletal muscle mass. The activation of the Akt/mTOR pathway and its downstream targets, p70S6K and PHAS-1/4E-BP1, is requisitely involved in regulating skeletal muscle fiber size. Acute AKT activation also leads to a decrease in adipose tissue (fat loss)

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The pathways that are sufficient to induce hypertrophy in skeletal muscle have been the subject of some controversy. We describe here the use of a novel method to produce a transgenic mouse in which a constitutively active form of Akt can be inducibly expressed in adult skeletal muscle and thereby demonstrate that acute activation of Akt is sufficient to induce rapid and significant skeletal muscle hypertrophy in vivo, accompanied by activation of the downstream Akt/p70S6 kinase protein synthesis pathway. Upon induction of Akt in skeletal muscle, there was also a significant decrease in adipose tissue. These findings suggest that pharmacologic approaches directed toward activating Akt will be useful in inducing skeletal muscle hypertrophy and that an increase in lean muscle mass is sufficient to decrease fat storage."

MyHC
Myosin heavy-chain synthesis rate is correlated with measures of muscle strength, circulating insulin-like growth factor 1 and
dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate in men and women and free testosterone levels in men.

MyoD
both MyoD and myogenin genes are necessary in the regenerative process for the proliferation of satellite cells (myoblasts) and for the development of early regenerating fibers (myotubes). The expression of Myod is sufficient to convert a fibroblast to a skeletal muscle cell,
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brundel said:
Lower doses or the incorrect extraction process has been shown to be ineffective so the extraction process is very important with EJ. So lets dig into whats inside the plant itself.
Just a short list of the chemical constituents of EJ-

Epicatechin
Ursolic acid
Chlorogenic acid
Corosolic acid
Oleanolic acid
Caffeic acid
Procyanidin B2
Protocatechuic acid
Ferulic acid
Tormentic acid
Naringenin
Ellagic acid
EGCG
Quercetin

This is a pretty impressive list of actives. Lets take a look at what some of these do.

Epicatechin.
EJ doesnt have as much epicatechin as something like cocoa or green tea but there is still a decent amount. Its estimated that there is about 150mg per 100g in cocoa and there is about 60mg in EJ so a little less than half. None the less there is enough that epicatechin will be active especially with Narinigenin, EGCG and quercetin in the mix as these all increase the absorption of epicatechin. Lets think of epicatechin as sort of a bonus.

Ursolic acid.
There is a decent dose in here at upwards of 150mg estimated per daily dose of our EJ extract but Ursolic acid is also a major constituent of another of Vectors ingredents giving us approx 300mg + of Ursolic acid per dose. Ursolic acid orally has been show in studies to increase muscle mass, Increase strength, Increase brown fat, Increase glucose utilization and increase exercise capacity. Its been stated that UA is not viable orally but I think I disagree and it seems as though studies also indicate that it is orally active although it has a very poor absorption rate. High doses are required and studies indicate 300+ should be enough orally to produce the desired results.

Corosolic acid.
Corosolic acid is a GDA generally extracted from Banaba (lagerstroemia speciosa) but a significant amount is present in Eribotrya J. Corosolic acid works orally at relatively low doses and has some interesting effects. Even doses of 10mg are viable to display its impressive effects. Most people have heard of Corosolic acid for its glucose effects as it is a major GDA. Corosolic acid can help to keep glucose down with multiple mechanisms of action. Glut4 translocation, reduced insulin resistance as well as all kinds of enzymatic suppression and or expression.
-Corosolic acid has been shown to reduce cholesterol levels and enhance lipid metabolism.
-Corosolic acid is also a great fat burner not only through antidiabetic effects but also by retarding absorption of fatty acids.
-Corosolic acid is a potent and selective inhibitor of the enzyme (11-beta hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1) that converts inactive cortisone to active cortisol. Therefore, corosolic acid may prevent excessive cortisol production.
Overall Corosolic acid is one of Vectors great components. Increased Glucose uptake into muscles, decreased blood sugar, increased insulin sensitivity, increased fat utilization and decreased fat diposition plus decreased cortisol make Corosolic a powerhouse.

Oleanolic acid
Oleanolic acid (OA) is a constituent of Olea Europea, Viscum Album and Eriobotrya japonica as well as others.
Its long been used in Chinese medicine for treatment of liver disorders and other ailments. OA increases glucose utilization, is a solid vasodilator and increases expression of the AKT pathway.

Protocatechuic acid
Insulin like activity by activating PPAPy.
Decreases ROS
Antiageing
Anti inflammatory
Antiseptic
analgesic
GLUT4 upregulation
Antioxidant
Protects the testes from damage and stress
Cardio protective

Caffeic acid
Increased exercise capacity
Reduced Blood Lactate
Increased fat loss
Endurance

Ferulic acid, 4-hydroxy-3-methoxycinnamic acid, is one of the most ubiquitous phenolic acids, found in the
bran of grasses such as wheat, rice, and oats. It belongs to the family of plant hydroxycinnamic acids, which
include caffeic acid, sinapic acid, and p-coumaric acid. Recent studies have provided evidence that ferulic acid reduces the risk of disease, including
Alzheimer’s disease, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and colon cancer. Currently, ferulic acid is used to enhance athletic
performance, both in humans and racehorses. Supplementation by it has been found to increase muscle strength in weight lifters.

In one animal study a single acute administration of Ferulic acid increased swimming time by 170%.
Ferulic acid prevented the decrease in catalase, superoxide dismutase and protected against the depletion of GST activity induced by exhaustive
exercise.
Exercise can be associated with oxidative stress. Thus exercise can act as a powerful source of Reactive Oxygen Species, depending on duration and intensity. During exhaustive exercise, fat is typically used as the primary energy source, thus sparing glycogen stores, which in turn retards fatigue. However, during strenuous exercise substantial production of ROS occurs via beta oxidation during the utilization of fat.
In addition, a dramatic increase in oxygen consumption in the body creates an imbalance between ROS and the antioxidant defense system resulting in fatigue.
Acute adminstration of Ferulic acid prevents fatigue, increases endurance and protects the body during exhaustive exercise.

Chlorogenic acid
CA often reffered to as green coffee extract is widely known for its antiobesity effects via PPARa agonism and by preventing proliferation of new fat cells. CA can increase muscular glucose uptake both by stimulating Non insulin dependent AMPK as well as stimulating pAKt. Great for keeping bodyfat off while promoting muscle growth.

Tormentic acid
Anti diabetic
Glut4
AMPK
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u_e_s_i Ingredient 1 writeup. You can find it in this thread on page 18
 
DoubleM101 said:
So for European guys theres no other way but buying it from USA?
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x2.. Have ordered Follidrone 2.0 from Strong supplements 2 weeks ago... nothing received yet.. thankfully remembers of ordering from JW Supplements and got it in Portugal within 5 days...
 
Jpv20 said:
x2.. Have ordered Follidrone 2.0 from Strong supplements 2 weeks ago... nothing received yet.. thankfully remembers of ordering from JW Supplements and got it in Portugal within 5 days...
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Are you in another country?
 
Jpv20 said:
x2.. Have ordered Follidrone 2.0 from Strong supplements 2 weeks ago... nothing received yet.. thankfully remembers of ordering from JW Supplements and got it in Portugal within 5 days...
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Same here, Strongsupplement to UK... its on its way.. I do not mind you partner with strong for this release as they have decent shipping rates to UK actually better than most fancier providers..
 
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