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VECTOR pre release leaks and info

jt75 said:
brundel while reading your data on the testers I noted that one tester favoured taking Vector @ 3 caps twice a day instead of the recommended 2 caps 3 times a day, would this now be your recommendation or would it not matter on dosing protocol?
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I would suggest taking 2 caps 3x daily. But some people Im sure will do 3x2 times daily.
 
anabolix said:
So is this not androgenic after all? If it is, then this will be supressive at some point. I thought I read that this was androgenic, but maybe I'm wrong.
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It is androgenic yes. Libido, strength ...all the things you expect from an androgen.
non suppressive yes. We saw 0 indication of suppression at any dose or duration.
 
Studhorse said:
Test Subject. Progress picks 22 days in.

12-29-2018 1-20-2018
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This one really shows the improvements made.
Shoulders bigger
Arms bigger
Chest thicker
Fat has dropped a bit.

3 weeks---
 
Few Log notes:

Weight
12-29-18 204.7lb.
1-20-2019 210.9lb.

Note: I started taking this on 12/19/2018 just didn't have any picks. (Didn't want to mislead anyone) 30 days.

Strength Gains: Lifts are up 1 rep or pounds every workout.
This really increases my hunger.
Changes in the mirror after 10 days.

Diet:
First 20 days averaged 278cals over Maint.
Last 10 averaging 189 cals under.
Personally I would not be able to due a true cut on this. Hunger is too hard to control.

In my opinion this would be better for a Bulk or a Recomp. I'm going to try to keep my cals at about 300 under to give it a fair shot. (don't know if I can do it on this)

Labido: 5 Stars! ask my wife. She hides from me now!

Energy and that good feeling is nice. Alpha feeling is good. I do have a tendency to have to watch my aggression sometimes but not too bad.

Recovery kicked in after 11 days

I do have a little more DOMS than usual with my current workout than in the past. Probably the extra endurance.


This Pic is from 2 days ago after 2 days off. Joints feel great!
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Studhorse you dark horse!
Didn't even mention you were testing Vector, you look great bud
 
brundel said:
This one really shows the improvements made.
Shoulders bigger
Arms bigger
Chest thicker
Fat has dropped a bit.

3 weeks---
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Sorry guys!
I'm not much of a poser. I have my wife take the pics since I suck at it. its hard to get the same distance and pose in every comparison pic.
I'm more of a look in the mirror guy than a tape measure progress guy.
 
The progress in those pics blows away any progress I've seen from any supplement over 30 days usage, gonna have to buy new clothes now
 
I will be running this for 8 weeks or until my stash runs out.

Note: I only took 1ea. 3 times a day for the first 13 days. I got my directions wrong. Sorry Im old.
since I have been dosing 2/2/2.

I will try it at 3/3/3 soon. just don't want to run out if you know what I mean!
 
jt75 said:
The progress in those pics blows away any progress I've seen from any supplement over 30 days usage, gonna have to buy new clothes now
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Not getting that big! my wife got me a new dress shirt for work. it's one of those new fit types, for skinny people I think. I couldn't get my arm in the sleeve.
I have only put on 6lbs. Looking forward to another 4 weeks. maybe I can cut some of this fat. It's just really hard. I eat like 3 cups of almonds a day at my desk. And try to drink a Protein shake with water when I just have to have something.
 
I'm here. Hope I look as good as you when I'm your age!! (Cause you're older than me, remember)
 
brundel said:
It is androgenic yes. Libido, strength ...all the things you expect from an androgen.
non suppressive yes. We saw 0 indication of suppression at any dose or duration.
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Could it be that it "mimics" certain androgenic qualities, but isn't actually activating androgen receptors? If it's really androgenic, then I don't believe it's possible for this not to supress you.
 
Incredible Studhorse! Really stoked for the release of Vector! It’s even more exciting that it’s safe for women too! Gonna get me some nice delt caps sooner than later!!
 
 
anabolix said:
Could it be that it "mimics" certain androgenic qualities, but isn't actually activating androgen receptors? If it's really androgenic, then I don't believe it's possible for this not to supress you.
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Certainly.
Im not sure it is binding to androgen receptors.
I am sure that we are seeing androgenic effects.
Strength
Sex drive
Acne
 
Studhorse said:
you can still call me anything you want. just not late for dinner!
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Lol! What about "Pookey Bear"?
I'm the "Dud" right now. Well, at least for a day or two. Got a locust tree thorn stuck through my hand today while milling some logs. Soaking it in Epsom salt right now hoping to get the swelling down.
 
lukehayd said:
Lol! What about "Pookey Bear"?
I'm the "Dud" right now. Well, at least for a day or two. Got a locust tree thorn stuck through my hand today while milling some logs. Soaking it in Epsom salt right now hoping to get the swelling down.
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I told you not to call me that in public!

that sucks brother! that had to hurt like hell.
 
Studhorse said:
I told you not to call me that in public!

that sucks brother! that had to hurt like hell.
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Oops sorry! I forgot!

Well, it didn't exactly tickle. Lol! The one thorn left on the log and I had to find it when I went to roll the dang thing over!
 
SFreed said:
Any chance for a pre release sale??
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Is going to be a VERY brief intro sale followed by open sales.
Also going to have stacked deals etc. So for guys who want to run a foll, vector, Letrone stack for example. Deals.
 
lukehayd said:
I don't use a sock, I just use my wife's pillow. It's a psychological thing to make her want it more. ;)
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Acceptance via Osmosis?? That could work. Plus, it's probably funny when she wakes up with the pillow stuck to her head.
 
Studhorse and brundel
I am seldom impressed with before and after pics....even when prohormones are involved.

There is clearly a difference in the photos and it is not just the lighting. The lighting is actually less dramatic in the after photos which would usually make someone look more flat. This is not the case and the change can’t be denied.

It looks like all of brundel’s hard work is going to pay off for himself, as well as all of us in a big way!
 
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