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VECTOR pre release leaks and info

Will this be available in any European retailer?

This is getting my attention but unfortunately my country customs are a pain, so theres no other choice than buying in Europe.
 
DoubleM101 said:
Will this be available in any European retailer?

This is getting my attention but unfortunately my country customs are a pain, so theres no other choice than buying in Europe.
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I'm in Europe and strong supplement shop gets it to me in a week or so, where are you?
 
Portugal.

Problem isn't the shipping. Problem are the customs. You have no idea how problematic are they. To give you an idea i made two orders on iHerb on middle of November, both orders arrived here after 3 days and i didn't received them yet. They are really really slow taking care of the orders and with this kind of products (which are unknown for them) they could seize them... Not to speak on the absurd taxes (about 30%) if the product costs more than 22€.
 
DoubleM101 said:
Portugal.

Problem isn't the shipping. Problem are the customs. You have no idea how problematic are they. To give you an idea i made two orders on iHerb on middle of November, both orders arrived here after 3 days and i didn't received them yet. They are really really slow taking care of the orders and with this kind of products (which are unknown for them) they could seize them... Not to speak on the absurd taxes (about 30%) if the product costs more than 22€.
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NV and SSS normally mark the parcel as vitamin c with a low value.
Otherwise you should move to UK or Ireland
 
They doesn't check the package content? Here it's a matter of luck but most of times they do... If the order is selected for control, they open it and they request the invoice, website print screen, paypal (or other payment method) proof, etc
 
DoubleM101 said:
They doesn't check the package content? Here it's a matter of luck but most of times they do... If the order is selected for control, they open it and they request the invoice, website print screen, paypal (or other payment method) proof, etc
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No they don't check the contents, the parcel will look very normal and should pass customs easily. I have posted
viagra-type meds to Portugal lots of times with 100% success
 
jt75 said:
No they don't check the contents, the parcel will look very normal and should pass customs easily. I have posted
viagra-type meds to Portugal lots of times with 100% success
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Within Europe they don't check them but if it cames from outside it's really random...
 
jt75 said:
Well if I was you I'd buy one and if it got through then I'd buy lots
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Unfortunately it doesn't work like that... i can make two orders of the same product from the same store at the same time and one is selected for control and not the other. For this kind of products i prefer to order from UK.. I pay more (sometimes the double or more) but it's less risky. Problem is when they aren't available there.
 
DoubleM101 said:
Unfortunately it doesn't work like that... i can make two orders of the same product from the same store at the same time and one is selected for control and not the other. For this kind of products i prefer to order from UK.. I pay more (sometimes the double or more) but it's less risky. Problem is when they aren't available there.
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customs dont have time to check every international parcel - if its labeled as a gift (which will be the case, at least with nutriverse i know it for sure and you can ask sss to do it as well) and of course doesnt look suspicious (computer written labels, full adress with phone number etc.), they will let it through VERY sure. and because its a „gift“, you dont need any bill (there wont be one ;-)) and usually also dont have to pay any customs fees or taxes.

its right that within the EU we dont have the issue of real custom checks but ordering from the US is easy as well. portugal is also not known for veeeeery strict customs (if you compare with germany or italy for example). i wouldt mind that they would seize it, especially because there wont be an ingredient that is banned, so its a „gift“ without any banned ingredients - why should they seize it? very surely they wont even open it.
 
I think the key would just be an EU distributor. Makes things easier.
Im not sure if we will have an EU distributor early on, pre sale etc but eventually we will. For sure after the product intro period.
 
brundel said:
I think the key would just be an EU distributor. Makes things easier.
Im not sure if we will have an EU distributor early on, pre sale etc but eventually we will. For sure after the product intro period.
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As you're gonna launch Vector in around a fortnight, when will we have the write up?
 
brundel said:
I think the key would just be an EU distributor. Makes things easier.
Im not sure if we will have an EU distributor early on, pre sale etc but eventually we will. For sure after the product intro period.
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Looks like we will probably work with Predator for EU so alls well.
 
jt75 said:
As you're gonna launch Vector in around a fortnight, when will we have the write up?
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Detailed writeup will come around when the raws arrive.
I dont want to release the writeup without having them in hand because things can happen during manufacturing and during shipping etc.
Maybe 2 weeks or less I hope.
 
brundel said:
Looks like we will probably work with Predator for EU so alls well.
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I’m glad you got someone to work with in the UK/EU but predator...


Me and the other uk based guys will do it...

And by that I mean just ship us loads and we will hoard it all
 
brundel said:
Looks like we will probably work with Predator for EU so alls well.
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I d much prefer POWMSLF... Shipping of Predator for me is usually half the products price ( and all that in pounds.. )
Also after Brexit it could still be like shipping from US....
Just saying...
 
ktm620 said:
I d much prefer POWMSLF... Shipping of Predator for me is usually half the products price ( and all that in pounds.. )
Also after Brexit it could still be like shipping from US....
Just saying...
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+ 1 agree here but even they will be up on the price compared to usa and importing to europe / uk.
 
ktm620 said:
I d much prefer POWMSLF... Shipping of Predator for me is usually half the products price ( and all that in pounds.. )
Also after Brexit it could still be like shipping from US....
Just saying...
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predator is impudent expensive. short example - a lgd product on pms is like 43€ + 4€ shipping, predator wants 51€ + 9€

so for the exact same product i pay easy 47€ on pms and extreme 60€ on predator. thats about 22% less to pay on pms, thats huge.
 
brundel Will Vector have to be cycled after a certain time period, also is it best to do an 8 week run vs 4?

What is min age to run it, i have a younger brother who is 19 years and 4 months old, i would get him to log it if he were to run it to provide feedback, also if getting him to use this i would just keep that as his only supplement along with his whey / casein protein and some creatine, at the moment he is only using creatine with protein powder and food and seems to be progressing well due to his age.
 
paul56778 said:
+ 1 agree here but even they will be up on the price compared to usa and importing to europe / uk.
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isnt it possible that brudel forces them to sell at a specific price (not much above US price) or they wont get the product? i mean a lot of BLR‘s customers are from the EU, so the shop who sells the new product first, will have the most customers. it would be just fair to give them a upper limit for price. or is this something impossible in this business and im thinking about it way too easy?
 
iamyourfather said:
predator is impudent expensive. short example - a lgd product on pms is like 43€ + 4€ shipping, predator wants 51€ + 9€

so for the exact same product i pay easy 47€ on pms and extreme 60€ on predator. thats about 22% less to pay on pms, thats huge.
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i cannot even view PH's on UK site can you view or order them?
 
paul56778 said:
i cannot even view PH's on UK site can you view or order them?
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about which site are we talking about?

generally i have to use the google chrome browser on my smartphone to view any listing of predator, if you speak about that.

as far as PH‘s go, i have no clue, never searched for them. ive just bought a bottle of lgd from pms, thats the reason why i know the prices actually
 
iamyourfather said:
about which site are we talking about?

generally i have to use the google chrome browser on my smartphone to view any listing of predator, if you speak about that.

as far as PH‘s go, i have no clue, never searched for them. ive just bought a bottle of lgd from pms, thats the reason why i know the prices actually
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DEVANS89 said:
On pred it’s under the hardcore section
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Pow**my*elf was the site i was referring to, it seems EU can access pro hormones but on UK site they are taken off, no available.
 
The deal with Predator is a distribution deal. This means that they will buy in bulk and supply Europe. So you dont have to buy from Predator.
For example you can go to JW supps. Its just all imported from Pred.
 
paul56778 said:
brundel Will Vector have to be cycled after a certain time period, also is it best to do an 8 week run vs 4?

What is min age to run it, i have a younger brother who is 19 years and 4 months old, i would get him to log it if he were to run it to provide feedback, also if getting him to use this i would just keep that as his only supplement along with his whey / casein protein and some creatine, at the moment he is only using creatine with protein powder and food and seems to be progressing well due to his age.
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We have only seen positive effects an no real suppression so I dont see why someone 19 couldnt use it.
Also I think at least 8 weeks.
For sure gains have increased with time. One tester is on week 16 and hes still growing so......

Plus even at 19 he could run a stack of our products.
For example=
FD2
Vector
Viron
Letrone

High test
low estro
Multiple anabolic MOAs
Multipl fat burning MOAs
Multiple performance enhancement MOAs.

0 negative effects, 0 PCT needed.
 
DoubleM101 said:
Portugal.

Problem isn't the shipping. Problem are the customs. You have no idea how problematic are they. To give you an idea i made two orders on iHerb on middle of November, both orders arrived here after 3 days and i didn't received them yet. They are really really slow taking care of the orders and with this kind of products (which are unknown for them) they could seize them... Not to speak on the absurd taxes (about 30%) if the product costs more than 22€.
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UK isn't much better with taxes.

Australia we fan import up to $1,000aud
They want to change it, everyone is complaining.
Truth, it would help local economy and retailers. If people don't save as much, they buy here. Instead we spend alot of our money overseas, as everything is expensive here.

Example.
Mercedes E63 120kUS = 150kAUD IN AMERICA
Australia 250k

They jack everything up here. ?
 
i agree an i already havesome money set aside depending on the deal and the amount more i save until presale/launch i'm thinking of grabbing 3-4. Maybe split it 2 then 2 on the last week or so of the second bottle
 
brundel while reading your data on the testers I noted that one tester favoured taking Vector @ 3 caps twice a day instead of the recommended 2 caps 3 times a day, would this now be your recommendation or would it not matter on dosing protocol?
 
I am screaming in pure excitment right now
Never tried BLR products but the pure hype and results here have guranteed a buy from me when this is released.
This is the way my brothers
 
taylor8461 said:
I am screaming in pure excitment right now
Never tried BLR products but the pure hype and results here have guranteed a buy from me when this is released.
This is the way my brothers
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Gotta pick up some follidrone to try as well!
 
brundel said:
We have only seen positive effects an no real suppression so I dont see why someone 19 couldnt use it.
0 negative effects, 0 PCT needed.
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So is this not androgenic after all? If it is, then this will be supressive at some point. I thought I read that this was androgenic, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
GravyVampire said:
Any before / after pics of these testers or more specific statistics in their progressions? I’d imagine transformation pics would only help the hype if it’s all that it’s cracked up to be.
Also, were they instructed to follow any type of training protocol? Just wondering if this is all anecdotal, and they all made gains doing the training they so pleased, or if they were all on similar plans.
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Should be. A Pic can be worth a thousand words sometimes.
 
Test Subject. Progress picks 22 days in.

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