vanillean

I take Vanillean before I go to be every night, It doesn't stop me from getting good sleep, but something I have noticed lately is that my dreams have been crazy and vivid as hell.. Anyone else taking Vanillean maybe have this effect? Trying to figure out if it may be another side or not..
 
My dreams have been VERY weird, since starting Vanillean. I like weird dreams though.
 
My dreams have been VERY weird, since starting Vanillean. I like weird dreams though.
I dreamed last night that my wife came home with a baby bear in a onesie.
 
Well bears have cubs, so it makes sense.
 
My dreams have been rather vivid as well. I chalked it up to pre-bed slinsane though. Could be both though I suppose.
 
My dreams have been rather vivid as well. I chalked it up to pre-bed slinsane though. Could be both though I suppose.
Prebed for the past few nights I've been doing 3mg melatonin, 1 SLINtensity, and a vanillean. Yeah, pretty vivid.
 
I believe I said this earlier, but I really find appetite suppression to be one of those effects that is quite different for everyone. I've taken thermos that crushed mine and no one else mentioned it and I've been ravenous with some where people talk about the appetite killing effect over and over.

I'm not going to pretend I understand the reasons for why this is, (and if I had to guess it may be a myriad of other factors not related to any supplement) but I truly believe this is an effect that is highly personal in regards to supplements.

It seems to be situational and I cannot tell necessarily what timing of the dose changes things. I switched to a 5 meal a day plan, seems I get a lot more thermo from it. I do see some body comp changes since I started with all else being equal. I am not questioning the efficacy of the product, far from it, just stating my experience is different than most.
 
Prebed for the past few nights I've been doing 3mg melatonin, 1 SLINtensity, and a vanillean. Yeah, pretty vivid.

Funny I have all of that, I'll give it a shot.
 
Funny I have all of that, I'll give it a shot.
I actually like them. They aren't detrimental to my sleep quality...quite the contrary.
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Ok I just started mine today and I am to lazy to read through these pages.

It says up to 3 caps per day which I will run 3 everyday. Now to the dosing. It says 20min prior to meal. And also I see some of u taking it pre bed.

What's best? This is my protocol 1 pre bfast(530am), 1 pre lunch(10am) and 1 pre workout (2pm)
 
Ok I just started mine today and I am to lazy to read through these pages.

It says up to 3 caps per day which I will run 3 everyday. Now to the dosing. It says 20min prior to meal. And also I see some of u taking it pre bed.

What's best? This is my protocol 1 pre bfast(530am), 1 pre lunch(10am) and 1 pre workout (2pm)

Your protocol is pretty much what I do: 1 upon waking, 1 midday and 1 pre-workout. Works great!
 
Ok I just started mine today and I am to lazy to read through these pages.

It says up to 3 caps per day which I will run 3 everyday. Now to the dosing. It says 20min prior to meal. And also I see some of u taking it pre bed.

What's best? This is my protocol 1 pre bfast(530am), 1 pre lunch(10am) and 1 pre workout (2pm)

Doesnt need to be taken with food just on empty stomach . Your protocol is fine only letting you know since it will give you alot more dosing options
 
If your willpower isn't strong, avoid the pre-bed dose. I tend to wake up in the middle of the night with strong cravings for food.
 
Nothing right now, just Vanillean. I do one bottle, then take a month off. But I think going two bottles before a break should be fine.

Yea I was going to do two bottles but decided to run it for one month only than run it again in may with Alphamine.
 
If your willpower isn't strong, avoid the pre-bed dose. I tend to wake up in the middle of the night with strong cravings for food.

Will power is strong but I don't want to mess wit it lol. Ill stick to my dosing lol. I can't risk that at all especially that I wake up so damn early
 
Adding RK or TTA would be similar to adding OG DCP to VL - a great idea for some stim-free synergism.

So far, most users are doing 1 or 2 bottles per run, so 4-8 weeks is the typical length of use.

Got it thanks! I'm picking ip a bottle to stack with oxy eca black in may. And looking for something to stack with EC for summer. I love rk daily tho it has become a staple for me
 
Been doing Vanillean + Endosurge Turbo. The dreams are intense!

Gonna have to give that a try. I've got an EndoSurge Turbo log up but I haven't been able to update it like I want due to my internet being out. I've been getting intense dreams just of Endo alone.
 
Side observation: Using Vanillean during winter weather is strange enough, but as the weather starts warming the sweating from it is certainly growing more intense.

Anyone else getting this?
 
Side observation: Using Vanillean during winter weather is strange enough, but as the weather starts warming the sweating from it is certainly growing more intense.

Anyone else getting this?

I would expect this, actually. I sweat for anything.
 
I would imagine that to be the case. It might be here today! Being only two hours away has its perks. Shipping only takes one day!
 
Side observation: Using Vanillean during winter weather is strange enough, but as the weather starts warming the sweating from it is certainly growing more intense.

Anyone else getting this?

To be honest I never feel a thermo effect. I'm taking 4 per day now to.
 
No, the first dose it usually ~7am, the second ~1pm and I don't eat until ~4pm. Just BCAAs and supps before that.

Wait? You telling me you don't eat for 9 hours? No shake at least? That must be tough. How's that going for you? How are you getting all your macros in? Must be a huge meal at 4.
 
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