USPowders No more???

I cannot wait the return! Us is the price at nutra going to be the same?
 
Same here - Im lost

Anyone elaborate specifically as to what VAT is?

JoHNnyNuTZ said:
Sorry if Im ,like, wicked slow. What is VAT. Just browsing through the old nutra lineup, and didnt see. Or did I??????
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Glad to have you back.

Work on the bulk prime!



Happy with the results so far though.
 
USPowders said:
How did they sell out to GNC? This is all great market research.

I want to be direct. USPowders gets everything from USPlabs. It's thier research and quality extractions that allow us a business...
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I feel as if before they made money off the legitimacy of their products, Since signing with GNC it's more about praying on the supplement-ignorant consumer. Most of the people that go there have no Idea what they want or need so they are exceptionally vulnerable to advertising. I stand back and see it going from them making money by proving themselves to people who know what their doing (like us on AM), to making profits on how well they market and it seems that whoever can make the best claims often makes the best sales. All the while USPowders sells on nutraplanet with no full page ads in magazines claiming steroid gains. You profit by proving your products are worthy and effective. You profit by word of mouth, if you try and sell a BS product you will lose your customers. But when you sell out to GNC, returning customers dont matter because its a revolving door there. They have sales reps that can glorify bull **** and people will buy it. I don't believe USPLabs to have BS products (although they make BS claims for them), But I do believe marketing with GNC has become more important then the product itself. That is why I believe they sold out to them. If they would be more straight forward in their ads then I wouldn't be so hostel. Just say what it is, what it does for you, and how it helps reach your goal. But you've gotta be kidding yourself when they say gain 20lbs of muscle and lose 10% of fat in 3 months on anabolic pump. If they stopped that then I wouldn't have such negative feelings. Just my opinion.
 
USPowders said:
Carboxy is on the way.

Vat attack in R&D to fix the clumping into a brick that breaks NP's blenders syndrome..

SuperSaponins next on the Radar.
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Deffinatly getting Supercissus, Carboxy and Vat attack for my cut cycle late summer! Get vat attack in by end of summer and I will love you forever :op:(no homo)
 
DBdude said:
Deffinatly getting Supercissus, Carboxy and Vat attack for my cut cycle late summer! Get vat attack in by end of summer and I will love you forever :op:(no homo)
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SICK!

I'd throw in PES Shift and USPowders SuperSAP and you will have one incredible non-stim cut stack.

Higher dosed Cissus has anti-catabolic properties, if i'm not mistaken.
 
One of the reasons I'm sitting on 3 bottles of supercissus. :)
 
DBdude said:
I feel as if before they made money off the legitimacy of their products, Since signing with GNC it's more about praying on the supplement-ignorant consumer. Most of the people that go there have no Idea what they want or need so they are exceptionally vulnerable to advertising. I stand back and see it going from them making money by proving themselves to people who know what their doing (like us on AM), to making profits on how well they market and it seems that whoever can make the best claims often makes the best sales. All the while USPowders sells on nutraplanet with no full page ads in magazines claiming steroid gains. You profit by proving your products are worthy and effective. You profit by word of mouth, if you try and sell a BS product you will lose your customers. But when you sell out to GNC, returning customers dont matter because its a revolving door there. They have sales reps that can glorify bull **** and people will buy it. I don't believe USPLabs to have BS products (although they make BS claims for them), But I do believe marketing with GNC has become more important then the product itself. That is why I believe they sold out to them. If they would be more straight forward in their ads then I wouldn't be so hostel. Just say what it is, what it does for you, and how it helps reach your goal. But you've gotta be kidding yourself when they say gain 20lbs of muscle and lose 10% of fat in 3 months on anabolic pump. If they stopped that then I wouldn't have such negative feelings. Just my opinion.
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THey have never promised 20lbs and 10% drop in body fat in any of it's advertisment. I don't think any company has ever crossed that line.

Do you realize that you just posted an exageration in your response in an attempt to prove a point.
 
USPowders said:
THey have never promised 20lbs and 10% drop in body fat in any of it's advertisment. I don't think any company has ever crossed that line.

Do you realize that you just posted an exageration in your response in an attempt to prove a point.
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Here's the testimonial.

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My exaggeration is in response to this exaggeration.

I'm really not trying to fight, I'm just voicing my opinion when I see people being given high hopes from a product when chances are it was a correction in diet and actually working out that made the difference. But when I see before and after pictures like this, I can't help but be offended. As if we're that gullible.
 
carpee said:
SICK!

I'd throw in PES Shift and USPowders SuperSAP and you will have one incredible non-stim cut stack.

Higher dosed Cissus has anti-catabolic properties, if i'm not mistaken.
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Damn yea I used to dose that **** @ 10 grams a day! Can't afford to do that now. I used to give it to my dog for knee and hip problems he had that **** was like magic for him!
 
DBdude said:
Here's the testimonial.

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My exaggeration is in response to this exaggeration.

I'm really not trying to fight, I'm just voicing my opinion when I see people being given high hopes from a product when chances are it was a correction in diet and actually working out that made the difference. But when I see before and after pictures like this, I can't help but be offended. As if we're that gullible.
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To say that the results this guy saw were strictly because of AP is not realistic. However to say it had no part in his transformation isn't fair either. Any educated consumer would look at this and know this guy had his diet and training in line and it wasn't some magic pill. But I've taken AP since it came out and it does work, for me at least. I've used it with results that are similar to what this guy experienced not that drastic but a loss of about 10% BF in about 14 weeks while adding so much muscle mass that I never lost more than 5-6 lbs.
 
DBdude said:
Here's the testimonial.

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My exaggeration is in response to this exaggeration.

I'm really not trying to fight, I'm just voicing my opinion when I see people being given high hopes from a product when chances are it was a correction in diet and actually working out that made the difference. But when I see before and after pictures like this, I can't help but be offended. As if we're that gullible.
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I met and roomed with Armando several years ago at GNC Franchisee convention (2008, if my memory serves me). Not an exaggeration.
 
dmillz224 said:
To say that the results this guy saw were strictly because of AP is not realistic. However to say it had no part in his transformation isn't fair either. Any educated consumer would look at this and know this guy had his diet and training in line and it wasn't some magic pill. But I've taken AP since it came out and it does work, for me at least. I've used it with results that are similar to what this guy experienced not that drastic but a loss of about 10% BF in about 14 weeks while adding so much muscle mass that I never lost more than 5-6 lbs.
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My question, how can you be certain it did anything? My argument, when the supplement ignorant consumer purchases it. What are they thinking? The reason I am so against this kind of advertising is because I was taken advantage of so many times by being swayed to believe these products will cause the profound differences that we see in ads. People are greatly influenced by emotions, if they see something they envy they will want it. Psychology 101

But now that I'm older and learned to have objective views. I tried anabolic pump and saw no differences. Testimonials like this gives impressions to everyone that it will make that kind of difference for them.

Look I'm not trying to fight about this, only to lead people to an objective view of things. See the product for what it is, not what it advertises.
 
I openly still like usplabs products for the most part. AP did nothing for me...

I'd be open to trying it again if it wasn't as expensive as it is.

Also. Prime did nothing for me till I dosed 9pills a day, then I really liked it. Hense the need for a bulk version.
 
anabolicRyan1 said:
I openly still like usplabs products for the most part. AP did nothing for me...

I'd be open to trying it again if it wasn't as expensive as it is.

Also. Prime did nothing for me till I dosed 9pills a day, then I really liked it. Hense the need for a bulk version.
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This is the truth man, 100%. I thought AP worked, turns out the changes to my diet initially were giving me the gains not AP; plus I didn't see dramatic fat loss either. In a fasted training setting, I do believe it can assist in fat loss though.

Prime I am the same way, unless I dose 9 of the 800 mg caps, it does little for me, actually when I am up at 10-12 is where it really starts to work. Cost effective, absolutely not when I can run a month of a test booster or even 1-Andro and get better results for the same cost. Bring it back in bulk or bring some of the other products back in bulk that will get purchased. :banana:
 
Yeah man. Effective prime milkshakes. Lol
 
Why does everyone keep mentioning bulk Prime?? Has that ever been mentioned by a USP Labs person?? If not, I highly doubt they'd come out w/ that.. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it too...
 
USpowders man! chime in! On all the questions in the universe.
 
bigrobbierob said:
eh....they change their mind about what they are doing every 30 seconds anyway.....
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Curious... is this an assumption?

or known?

either way I still wish USPOWDERS MAN would come to the rescue and let us know whats going on...
 
bigrobbierob said:
Assumption.

If you know anything about them you'd get the joke. Just reread the thread and you'll see examples of it several times.
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Thank you for showing me the light sir.

Now would somebody who has a clue in either direct chime in? If it is the case that this is a reoccurring issue and there will just be nonperformance, I think its AM's responsibly to say that.
 
Now would somebody who has a clue in either direct chime in? If it is the case that this is a reoccurring issue and there will just be nonperformance, I think its AM's responsibly to say that.
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Ain't my responsibility to say ****...
 
I feel like the frustration involved in the supplement industry is no longer worth it. Unsubscribed..

If yall want me, I'll be in the anabolics section. Peace out :sgrin:
 
And I am done with this... all talk no action.
 
I bought it all....so sorry..
 
There are many legal aspects needed to launch a company.

the powders come directly from our independent facilities in India and China by sea. The shipment has departed.
 
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