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USPowders No more???

SynergyIre said:
Actually want bothers me more is when they say they'll do something or have something planned and the disappear into the ether...

As for Snag, didn't he go on a rampage after stopping being a rep??
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What bothers me is the limited run products.

"Hey guys, here's the awesomest most anabolicalest coolest product evar! We have three bottles and we're never making it again for reasons we're keeping to ourselves, so pony up!"

That's why I stopped giving a damn about supplements, especially herbal ones. Most of them don't do jack **** and the few that do seem to disappear into the ether never to be seen again. Plus the prices. The discounted retail price for two herbal supps could get me half a test cycle if I felt like it, and I know that will do something.
 
oufinny said:
I sent a note to Borobulker with the link, no telling if they will get back to us fast or not. I might send a note to Snag on the USP forum as well with the link to the thread, go for it if you want to send it to Jacob as well (USP Labs on AM) .
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snag is no longer a rep.
 
bump!!!! Jacob we need our 1-c and super sap and I cant live without my super cissus i only have about 50 grams left nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
 
Supercissus.
Took 4-6 grams a day and got the Cissus pumps.
Plus I slept like a log on it.

1-Carboxy. 2 grams prebed ... vivid dreamland and extremely restful sleep.
Nothing else compares except for this herbal team that my uncle has. And its not even close.
 
Usp isn't gunna bring them back.. trust me I know
 
The complete lack of response from USP is really pissing me off... just like the 2 bottles of Pink Magic I ran did (beta=awesome, production=waste of money). USP needs to get their act together and think about the fact this is one of the heaviest traffic boards for them and pay attention to their customers. Say yes or no, stop ****ing around.
 
oufinny said:
The complete lack of response from USP is really pissing me off... just like the 2 bottles of Pink Magic I ran did (beta=awesome, production=waste of money). USP needs to get their act together and think about the fact this is one of the heaviest traffic boards for them and pay attention to their customers. Say yes or no, stop ****ing around.
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I couldn't compare the production run to bta PM, I took part in the inner circle release and I was happy with the product. Definitely the best 'pump' type product I've used. But ever since USP changed a while back it seems like they have infinite energy to spend on hyping the nextest bestest greatestest thing coming at some vague point in the future, always while seemingly mentioning some mind blowing herbal ****tail that for reasons unstated will never be released, but no resources devoted elsewhere. They seem to have morphed from one of the few companies that made herbals worth a damn to one that still does I guess, but seems more intent on marketing hype than anything else. My guess based on your post, quality of product will drop soon too and they'll be just another company hawking some ridiculously over priced and under dosed herbals.

Here's a hint, guys: marketing at long term successful companies is not just about the Gee Wiz Aren't We So Awesome crap, it is about the complete management of the flow of information about products to your external and internal customers. That means from employees to store owners to consumers; every audience you serve. Your information is sadly lacking at every point in the process but self promotion it seems.
 
oufinny said:
The complete lack of response from USP is really pissing me off... just like the 2 bottles of Pink Magic I ran did (beta=awesome, production=waste of money). USP needs to get their act together and think about the fact this is one of the heaviest traffic boards for them and pay attention to their customers. Say yes or no, stop ****ing around.
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Wow, this is quite surprising coming from you Oufinny.

We have had amazing feedback on both the beta and product runs, and expect the same coming from our next run due very soon.
 
borobulker said:
Wow, this is quite surprising coming from you Oufinny.

We have had amazing feedback on both the beta and product runs, and expect the same coming from our next run due very soon.
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I really was upset man, I had high hopes for PM as on paper the new formula looked to be an improvement. It was like night and day for me, I came out a new person on the beta, nothing happened except some better recovery on the production product. If I sounded a little over the top I apologize, I was having quite the day when I posted that, it happens. As for the deal about USPowders, I think an answer is overdo. This thread has been up for a long while and I think USP just needs to decide yes or no. There are a lot of products that get rave reviews, Vat attack, that everyone wants and its only made in minute quantities, why? If you are going to taught the amazing products, bring them to the masses, in mass amounts so it doesn't sell out for year. I LOVE bulk cissus and 1-carboxy, they are very effective. I am just disgruntled because the things I (and so many others) want are mysteriously not available. Sorry if I came across like an ass, I'm frustrated.
 
oufinny said:
I really was upset man, I had high hopes for PM as on paper the new formula looked to be an improvement. It was like night and day for me, I came out a new person on the beta, nothing happened except some better recovery on the production product. If I sounded a little over the top I apologize, I was having quite the day when I posted that, it happens. As for the deal about USPowders, I think an answer is overdo. This thread has been up for a long while and I think USP just needs to decide yes or no. There are a lot of products that get rave reviews, Vat attack, that everyone wants and its only made in minute quantities, why? If you are going to taught the amazing products, bring them to the masses, in mass amounts so it doesn't sell out for year. I LOVE bulk cissus and 1-carboxy, they are very effective. I am just disgruntled because the things I (and so many others) want are mysteriously not available. Sorry if I came across like an ass, I'm frustrated.
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You know better than many on this board Oufinny, I am a USPowders connoisseur, so I can certainly relate.

I can certainly understand your disappointment, but what most will forget is that these items are truly very rare.

We do not just place an order to some unknown distributor we found on Google, bottle and sell. These items are truly proprietary herbal extractions, grown and cultivated on our own land by our own employees.

Is there a future for USPowders? Maybe.
Is this going to be anytime in the immediate future? No.
 
borobulker said:
You know better than many on this board Oufinny, I am a USPowders connoisseur, so I can certainly relate.

I can certainly understand your disappointment, but what most will forget is that these items are truly very rare.

We do not just place an order to some unknown distributor we found on Google, bottle and sell. These items are truly proprietary herbal extractions, grown and cultivated on our own land by our own employees.

Is there a future for USPowders? Maybe.
Is this going to be anytime in the immediate future? No.
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Casey - I can speak for many in this thread [I believe] when I say thank you for clarifying that for everyone. Now get to the farming man, we are always interested in something new and innovative you might have up your sleeves.
 
borobulker said:
You know better than many on this board Oufinny, I am a USPowders connoisseur, so I can certainly relate.

I can certainly understand your disappointment, but what most will forget is that these items are truly very rare.

We do not just place an order to some unknown distributor we found on Google, bottle and sell. These items are truly proprietary herbal extractions, grown and cultivated on our own land by our own employees.

Is there a future for USPowders? Maybe.
Is this going to be anytime in the immediate future? No.
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So when is your next harvest? :sombrero:
 
Is this cissus powder now the same stuff?

(nutraplanet.com/product/nutraplanet/cissus-powder-100-grams.html)
 
wonder whats better from a dosing/price perspective.. that bulk stuff, or super cissus rx caps.

haven't even tried cissus before, just intrigued due to all the acclaim
 
i9ram88 said:
wonder whats better from a dosing/price perspective.. that bulk stuff, or super cissus rx caps.

haven't even tried cissus before, just intrigued due to all the acclaim
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Bulk powder was $20 for 100g. caped RX your getting 96g and the cheapest I found it was 24.99
 
oufinny said:
Casey - I can speak for many in this thread [I believe] when I say thank you for clarifying that for everyone. Now get to the farming man, we are always interested in something new and innovative you might have up your sleeves.
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and I do apologize for my lack of attention here...

As of right now, our Yok3d release is at the top of our list. A very exciting product, even for individuals that do not train for vanity... The 'performance pump' as I personally coined it after my first session on the original beta formula...

I want to personally thank you guys here at AM for your support, it is certainly appreciated.
 
borobulker said:
and I do apologize for my lack of attention here...

As of right now, our Yok3d release is at the top of our list. A very exciting product, even for individuals that do not train for vanity... The 'performance pump' as I personally coined it after my first session on the original beta formula...

I want to personally thank you guys here at AM for your support, it is certainly appreciated.
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Thanks Casey I know this is on Jacob`s TO DO LIST ;)
 
borobulker said:
and I do apologize for my lack of attention here...

As of right now, our Yok3d release is at the top of our list. A very exciting product, even for individuals that do not train for vanity... The 'performance pump' as I personally coined it after my first session on the original beta formula...

I want to personally thank you guys here at AM for your support, it is certainly appreciated.
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Is there anything 'anabolic' related to a pump or is it strictly a vanity thing for aesthetic value?
 
lepiricus said:
Is there anything 'anabolic' related to a pump or is it strictly a vanity thing for aesthetic value?
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I don't want to use the term anabolic, for obvious reasons, but in our write-up we will certainly cover the science behind the formula.
 
borobulker said:
I don't want to use the term anabolic, for obvious reasons, but in our write-up we will certainly cover the science behind the formula.
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Ah gotcha, I should of used less specific terms. I was just curious if there was any training advantage to 'the pump' but sounds like you guys are going to cover that base. Cheers!
 
I hope Casey's answer (from Jacob) is enough to tie you over. I didn't intervene in contacting USP since Jacob had been posting in this thread and was clearly aware of the issue.

Nutraplanet has had a longstanding and very positive relationship with USP Labs/ USPowders, and would be more than happy to carry them again in the future if the opportunity is provided to us.
 
So it looks like I'm a little late to the party, but I've been thinking it since I noticed some of the more popular bulk powders disappearing from Nutra's site awhile back. Found this thread on accident, but I'm glad to see that some of the community feels the same way.

My gut instinct is still to shout BS (I've never seen capped Super Cissus Rx out of stock but it has 90g total powder in 120 caps, almost as much as the bulk tubs), but I can understand that the growing and preparation are time intensive processes. However, knowing now that demand for these products is certainly there (nutra=bulk powder for me from the beginning--this is how they made their name--and I don't buy for a moment that the demand for the capped versions was there but not for the powders), once they become available again they should be available in steady supply if USP has any integrity. The members of this community are serious about what they do. They do their research carefully, and they want bulk products. Make whatever changes you need to make to your production facilities now to ensure that when these products become available again the supply will not be interrupted.

And please remember that for every member of this community that wants a product, many more will likely purchase it as well, so the demand is certainly there. Many of us are trainers or nutritionists or provide health and fitness advice to others in some way, so if we like a product it says something. The last thing you should be worried about is demand--most of the members posting on this thread alone would probably buy 10+ tubs this very moment if you told them their favorite products were back. Paid or not, the members of this community ARE professional, and care very much about what they do. Please consider this. Thank you.

Respectfully,
~Alex C.
 
SuperSasho said:
So it looks like I'm a little late to the party, but I've been thinking it since I noticed some of the more popular bulk powders disappearing from Nutra's site awhile back. Found this thread on accident, but I'm glad to see that some of the community feels the same way.

My gut instinct is still to shout BS (I've never seen capped Super Cissus Rx out of stock but it has 90g total powder in 120 caps, almost as much as the bulk tubs), but I can understand that the growing and preparation are time intensive processes. However, knowing now that demand for these products is certainly there (nutra=bulk powder for me from the beginning--this is how they made their name--and I don't buy for a moment that the demand for the capped versions was there but not for the powders), once they become available again they should be available in steady supply if USP has any integrity. The members of this community are serious about what they do. They do their research carefully, and they want bulk products. Make whatever changes you need to make to your production facilities now to ensure that when these products become available again the supply will not be interrupted.

And please remember that for every member of this community that wants a product, many more will likely purchase it as well, so the demand is certainly there. Many of us are trainers or nutritionists or provide health and fitness advice to others in some way, so if we like a product it says something. The last thing you should be worried about is demand--most of the members posting on this thread alone would probably buy 10+ tubs this very moment if you told them their favorite products were back. Paid or not, the members of this community ARE professional, and care very much about what they do. Please consider this. Thank you.

Respectfully,
~Alex C.
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:goodpost:

:beerchug:
 
SuperSasho said:
So it looks like I'm a little late to the party, but I've been thinking it since I noticed some of the more popular bulk powders disappearing from Nutra's site awhile back. Found this thread on accident, but I'm glad to see that some of the community feels the same way.

My gut instinct is still to shout BS (I've never seen capped Super Cissus Rx out of stock but it has 90g total powder in 120 caps, almost as much as the bulk tubs), but I can understand that the growing and preparation are time intensive processes. However, knowing now that demand for these products is certainly there (nutra=bulk powder for me from the beginning--this is how they made their name--and I don't buy for a moment that the demand for the capped versions was there but not for the powders), once they become available again they should be available in steady supply if USP has any integrity. The members of this community are serious about what they do. They do their research carefully, and they want bulk products. Make whatever changes you need to make to your production facilities now to ensure that when these products become available again the supply will not be interrupted.

And please remember that for every member of this community that wants a product, many more will likely purchase it as well, so the demand is certainly there. Many of us are trainers or nutritionists or provide health and fitness advice to others in some way, so if we like a product it says something. The last thing you should be worried about is demand--most of the members posting on this thread alone would probably buy 10+ tubs this very moment if you told them their favorite products were back. Paid or not, the members of this community ARE professional, and care very much about what they do. Please consider this. Thank you.

Respectfully,
~Alex C.
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Casey made it pretty clear where USP stands on this and it is clearly a business decision. US Powders helped USP gather a strong repeat customer base and at this point they may not feel it is needed or worth the money. Either way you are right to say that many of us would buy if it came back in stock, especially VAT attack, Super Cissus and 1-carboxy. Whether or not that happens remains to be seen but it would be nice if they do (and better if Prime comes in a bulk powder, like 500 grams!!!!!).
 
oufinny said:
Casey made it pretty clear where USP stands on this and it is clearly a business decision. US Powders helped USP gather a strong repeat customer base and at this point they may not feel it is needed or worth the money. Either way you are right to say that many of us would buy if it came back in stock, especially VAT attack, Super Cissus and 1-carboxy. Whether or not that happens remains to be seen but it would be nice if they do (and better if Prime comes in a bulk powder, like 500 grams!!!!!).
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bulk PRIME :food:
 
oufinny said:
Casey made it pretty clear where USP stands on this and it is clearly a business decision. US Powders helped USP gather a strong repeat customer base and at this point they may not feel it is needed or worth the money. Either way you are right to say that many of us would buy if it came back in stock, especially VAT attack, Super Cissus and 1-carboxy. Whether or not that happens remains to be seen but it would be nice if they do (and better if Prime comes in a bulk powder, like 500 grams!!!!!).
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I got the same impression myself. It's a sad day when a business grows so large that they can afford to ignore those that made them successful and profit in the face of blatant dissension and in spite of obvious demand. Even more unfortunate is that, being a business decision, they'd never actually tell you as such, but rather backpedal and give you excuses that sound legitimate to cover the fact that they're giving up on a popular line of products because it was in fact "too good" a deal. Can you blame them for trying to render maximum profit out of their venture? Not really, but it's surely sad to see what they may do to get there. And worst of all is that all the speculation in the world doesn't mean anything because you can't prove whether or not someone is lying to you, so all you can do is assume people honest while cursing them for the possibility that they've already forsaken you. To some, myself included, that's depressing. For others, it's simply business.

Also, thanks for the reps! I can't actually send PM's because I mostly stalk the forums and haven't posted enough yet.
 
Resurrecting this thread from the grave...

Any interest in seeing a return of USPowders? If so, list the products you would like to see and we'll try to work some magic on our end ;)
 
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