I was thinking it might be that *anything* is better than my "natural musk" but, hey, a compliment is a compliment.dats cause you live in a hippy commune
I was thinking it might be that *anything* is better than my "natural musk" but, hey, a compliment is a compliment.dats cause you live in a hippy commune
You’re having to restock every couple of weeks so I don’t think it’s hurting sales any.I've only ever gotten compliments on the smell.
it’s only because they wanted free stuff broI've only ever gotten compliments on the smell.
I meant when I wear it... The only free thing she was getting was the D...it’s only because they wanted free stuff bro
bahahahaI meant when I wear it... The only free thing she was getting was the D...
I don’t care what anyone says, pussy ain’t free.I meant when I wear it... The only free thing she was getting was the D...
It would just smell like the carrier ingredients and then people would say it made them smell like an alcoholic or like they'd spilled fuel on themselves...It would be cool if you offered a scentless/low smell version.
I consider it an investment.I don’t care what anyone says, pussy ain’t free.
Shouldn’t be they are in a closet I do live In northeast but lows aren’t bad at night and I have heat on 67 in room anyway . I’ll try moving them and see if I have same issue. Now that you mention it I have moved them from one room to my office closet is on outside wall and that may have been when it started. Is the Helios different carrier it doesn’t happen to those and all stored togetherAre the bottles getting cold? Possibly overnight?
Hmmm, I wouldn't think that would be cold enough... try keeping them on top of the fridge, or somewhere else that stays particularly warm, if you can, and let me know if that helps.what do you consider cold? my house is ranging between 65 to 68 currently.
I had one Ursa that gelled out of 6 that were sitting under my bathroom sink. I put it in a old sock and it liquefied back. Only one had that issue.Hmmm, I wouldn't think that would be cold enough... try keeping them on top of the fridge, or somewhere else that stays particularly warm, if you can, and let me know if that helps.
Yea I have children also thats why I keep it in my officeMy AET has never solidified. I’d just keep it in the shower if I didn’t worry about my son getting curious. Take a shower. Dry off. Apply.
Yeah, it seems to be isolated to Ursa Major. The thing is, I haven't seen it happen to any in inventory or any that I've used personally. I'll see if I can figure out a fix...My AET has never solidified. I’d just keep it in the shower if I didn’t worry about my son getting curious. Take a shower. Dry off. Apply.
so i did some testing guys..Yeah, it seems to be isolated to Ursa Major. The thing is, I haven't seen it happen to any in inventory or any that I've used personally. I'll see if I can figure out a fix...
Interesting... like I figured, it must be what Ursa does instead of "crashing" the way we normally think of it.so i did some testing guys..
test #1= I put one in the fridge.. to let it gel up.. and it appeared solid. couldn't suck any up into the dispenser. i ran it under hot tap water... and it does go back into a gelled liquid and could be sucked up, however the next day... solid again.
test #2= i bathed it in hot hot (not quite boiling) water for several mins.. 10-15.. seems like its stable again and has stayed liquid for several days now.
Thanks for running these tests. I’ll try it out alsoso i did some testing guys..
test #1= I put one in the fridge.. to let it gel up.. and it appeared solid. couldn't suck any up into the dispenser. i ran it under hot tap water... and it does go back into a gelled liquid and could be sucked up, however the next day... solid again.
test #2= i bathed it in hot hot (not quite boiling) water for several mins.. 10-15.. seems like its stable again and has stayed liquid for several days now.
I have 3 bottles of ursa that I just checked and they're all gel. Not a big deal ill just warm them up when I go to use them. they were NOT gel the last time I used them which was a few weeks ago. I bought them in mid-March. It's definitely isolated to Ursa, because I have used almost every other Apex product and none have gone to gel.Interesting... like I figured, it must be what Ursa does instead of "crashing" the way we normally think of it.
It makes sense too that if the active is staying suspended in a gel instead of recrystallising and precipitating to the bottom that it's then pretty easy to get back into solution.
I imagine this will be less of a problem as we head into the summer but I am working on a solution. I think I know whats happening it's just a matter of figuring out if fixing one thing causes another problem... I don't think it will but more testing is needed.
I think you hit the nail right on the head.I have 3 bottles of ursa that I just checked and they're all gel. Not a big deal ill just warm them up when I go to use them. they were NOT gel the last time I used them which was a few weeks ago. I bought them in mid-March. It's definitely isolated to Ursa, because I have used almost every other Apex product and none have gone to gel.
Not promoting his products, but when I first heard Patrick Arnold talking about Ursolic Acid on the Tim Ferriss show in 2016, he talked a lot about how poor the solubility is and that even the arginine acetate salt he eventually used will never solubilize in water. Perhaps it's the water content of the carrier thats causing it to gel? I used to buy PA's Ur Spray and that also crystallizes over time and clogs up the spray nozzle.
Tired this twice once left then in pan for 15 min and they looked great but went solid within a few hrsso i did some testing guys..
test #1= I put one in the fridge.. to let it gel up.. and it appeared solid. couldn't suck any up into the dispenser. i ran it under hot tap water... and it does go back into a gelled liquid and could be sucked up, however the next day... solid again.
test #2= i bathed it in hot hot (not quite boiling) water for several mins.. 10-15.. seems like its stable again and has stayed liquid for several days now.
where do you store them and whats the regular room temp?Tired this twice once left then in pan for 15 min and they looked great but went solid within a few hrs
Second time let them heat for 20min and it took longer but did gel overnight unfortunately
In my home office. its high 70s outside here today i keep heat at 67where do you store them and whats the regular room temp?
its been about 5 days on the one i was testing.. looks to be slightly gelling at this point, i can still suck up the dose. my house sits right around 73 degrees f.
I have had minor issue with Ursa and adding a very small amount of 90% isopropyl made the solution stay liquid for me. I simply added a little extra volume to each application to account for the lowered concentration.I have 3 bottles of ursa that I just checked and they're all gel. Not a big deal ill just warm them up when I go to use them. they were NOT gel the last time I used them which was a few weeks ago. I bought them in mid-March. It's definitely isolated to Ursa, because I have used almost every other Apex product and none have gone to gel.
Not promoting his products, but when I first heard Patrick Arnold talking about Ursolic Acid on the Tim Ferriss show in 2016, he talked a lot about how poor the solubility is and that even the arginine acetate salt he eventually used will never solubilize in water. Perhaps it's the water content of the carrier thats causing it to gel? I used to buy PA's Ur Spray and that also crystallizes over time and clogs up the spray nozzle.
sorry if this is a dumb question, but the alcohol won’t diminish the effectiveness?I have had minor issue with Ursa and adding a very small amount of 90% isopropyl made the solution stay liquid for me. I simply added a little extra volume to each application to account for the lowered concentration.
IMO if the quantity is small and you account for the diminshed concentration then no or not enough to notice. Now if you have 30ml URSA and add 120ml isp then yes but I don't think anyone is going to do that. I think I added about 5ml to a bottle that was about 25ml left.sorry if this is a dumb question, but the alcohol won’t diminish the effectiveness?
The carrier is already made from benzyl alcohol, so I doubt adding some isopropyl alcohol is going to damage the active ingredientsIMO if the quantity is small and you account for the diminshed concentration then no or not enough to notice. Now if you have 30ml URSA and add 120ml isp then yes but I don't think anyone is going to do that. I think I added about 5ml to a bottle that was about 25ml left.
Yes this "waters" down the carrier a bit and hopefully NOS will check in but I believe it to be a minor difference.
No, it will only change the measuring of your dosage as indicated above.sorry if this is a dumb question, but the alcohol won’t diminish the effectiveness?
You are correct, sir.IMO if the quantity is small and you account for the diminshed concentration then no or not enough to notice. Now if you have 30ml URSA and add 120ml isp then yes but I don't think anyone is going to do that. I think I added about 5ml to a bottle that was about 25ml left.
Yes this "waters" down the carrier a bit and hopefully NOS will check in but I believe it to be a minor difference.
Also correct.The carrier is already made from benzyl alcohol, so I doubt adding some isopropyl alcohol is going to damage the active ingredients
Haha, nice!Apparently, I’ve just been blowing through bottles so fast this hasn’t been an issue so far
lets not mention the fact you keep one in your skivvies for fast applications. slathers on the fly~Apparently, I’ve just been blowing through bottles so fast this hasn’t been an issue so far
I did another test last night turned it to a liquid left it in heat for 15min. Put a thermometer in room room was 72 and this morning i had solid gel again. I wonder if heating it to much burned off some of the alcohol?test #3: today i will put a partially gelling bottle of ursa in my garage. the temp today will be close to 90 degrees f.
the inside ambient temp of my garage will likely get closer to 100. its uninsulated and the roof is black. I will report the findings later.
Out of curiosity, what is the condition of that bottle, now?lol i just realized i left a bottle of Ursa in my garage.. the test is a fail. it got cold and rainy after that hot day.... i will have to try another test next warm day that comes!~
Bring a pot of water to a boilI keep all my Apex products in the same place. Standard indoor temps. All 4 bottles of Ursa from my last order are still looking good, no issues at all. Dienogen from last year looking good as well. But 6 bottles of Triton have started to or have crystallized. First 2 bottles I went through were fine. Looking for some advice. Is it recommend to shake Apex topical products, under normal conditions or when they have crystallized? I appreciate any information.
gelled up.. its about 50 degrees out there this mornOut of curiosity, what is the condition of that bottle, now?