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Truthornothin's Ursobolic Log The Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth!

Onlychevy6 said:
Lol yes brain fart sorry. Ah ok the dr. good luck.
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Thanks gonna see If my past 7 years of fat burners year round has destroyed my thyroid or if I need to keep going ;)

Cortisol and test/estro as well to be tested. This is a preliminary visit though soo. Long process gonna begin. But I work so hard n get little results so I know something is off inside!
 
mattrag said:
LOL great! I was worried. This log is a bible of great info.

Quick question, was there any study on UA and Blood pressure?

I must be goign through some mean stress atm because my blood pressure, which usually is REALLY low, is REALLY high the past couple days... Like I normally test around 100/55, at times it was so low I couldnt give blood... But yesterday it was 156/89... Thats higher than it has EVER been even while on Hdrol.... @100mgs...
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it dropped mine 10points on the top and 15 on the bottom have talked to others with similar experiences
 
ellecoco said:
hey truthornothin

What's the rundown so far? How much weight have you lost?
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hello, wasn't using it to lose weight and Ursobolic is not a weight loss supplement it is a fat loss supplement. If you will review the studies the mice gained muscle while losing fat which is what most of the users are reporting. My intent of this log was to see if it could keep me lean while eating an excess of calories. The last month have been an extreme test if you look through my log. I was injured off a week and ate like a pig through thanksgiving still maintained my muscle and leaness while eating a ton over maintenance
 
chedapalooza said:
Thanks gonna see If my past 7 years of fat burners year round has destroyed my thyroid or if I need to keep going ;)

Cortisol and test/estro as well to be tested. This is a preliminary visit though soo. Long process gonna begin. But I work so hard n get little results so I know something is off inside!
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unless you are using T-3 or T-4 your thyroid is most likely fine. Even if you had still thyroid recovers despite bro' knowledge to the contrary. Stimulant abuse, however may down regulate your adrenal gland though
 
truthornothin said:
unless you are using T-3 or T-4 your thyroid is most likely fine. Even if you had still thyroid recovers despite bro' knowledge to the contrary. Stimulant abuse, however may down regulate your adrenal gland though
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I've used otcs with t3, not actual cytomel tho..

Ive also used two (stacking) fat burners daily year round for the past 2-3 years sometimes including ephedra. I'm going to go non stim for two months (feb-march) n use revamp.. It's going to suck! Also been on n off t boosters, ai's etc since 16! N dabbled w anavar, dbol, winstrol, n nolva.. Lots could be going on within! Hope to find out soon
 
chedapalooza said:
I've used otcs with t3, not actual cytomel tho..

Ive also used two (stacking) fat burners daily year round for the past 2-3 years sometimes including ephedra. I'm going to go non stim for two months (feb-march) n use revamp.. It's going to suck! Also been on n off t boosters, ai's etc since 16! N dabbled w anavar, dbol, winstrol, n nolva.. Lots could be going on within! Hope to find out soon
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You should be ok, most damage comes with extended "on" periods. Better safe than sorry though. Good Luck
 
Day 61

Ursobolic
Took 3 caps 3 times over the course of the day

Nutrition:

Breakfast:

5 Whole eggs scrambled
8 Oz V-8


Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
43 grams almonds
1 Apple

Afternoon:
50 grams whey protein
30 grams of almonds


Dinner:
8 oz 97% ground beef
150 Grams Plaki(greek beans with olive oil onions and tomatoes )
Fasolakia (greek green beans with tomato sauce and potatoes)



Snack:
1/4 cup Natty Peanut Butter
40 grams Dark Chocolate


Pre Bed:
1 cup fiber one and 1 cup whole milk

No Work Out:

Observations:"State of the Ursobolic Nation"

Taking the next two days off from the gym need to do some healing. Joints have been taking a pounding, going to Jointforce the hell out of my knees and elbows the next couple days and not do anything strenuous. Ursobolic....its been good to me. I have never eaten with such free reign, I am not quite as ripped as I was my last set of photos ...but not far off, next week I'll be back to shredded, I plan on posting pics next weekend. I usually take months to get back to fighting trim after such binging, especially with a week of no working out. My blood pressure is lower, I've not been working out to my potential but I've maintained my muscle mass and my thighs are even better than ever. Very happy thus far two more bottles on the way:cool2:
 
Man you kill it in the gym, you deserve a two day break! haha

Good to know about the BP etc. Im having my bottles sent up to me now. Nutra is being hard, and they are not letting me modify my order....
 
Hey truth I bet you'll like this leg day!

Pre lift cardio 1.5 mile run in 10:49 (for police fitness exams) followed by 15 mins of hiit followed by 10 mins of incline walking

Giant set
Reverse bb lunges 4x 95 lbs
bosu ball squats 4xbodyweight
Jumping jacks 25
Rest 30 seconds, repeat

Superset
Leg curl 3x15 (70, 80, 90 lbs) old machines at school, tranSlates to 20 lbs heavier on new smoothe machines at my commercial gym
Leg extension 3x15 (80, 90, 100) see above

Superset
single leg press 3x 15 (3 plates each side)
Calf press 3x20 (3 plates Each side)

Superset
single leg curl- 3x15 (40 lbs)
Single leg ext- 3x15 (40 lbs)

Abs
Weighted decline situp+twists (3x12 for 25 lbs)
Pikes superset with legraises 2 sets of 15 each
Bent over stick twists 2 set of 50 (25 per side)

10 mins cooldown cardio!

And u wonder why I need stims!! Gotta get lean for the cruise.. Start erase, Oep, alphat2, anabeta tomorrow ONTOP of urso.. Oh boy
 
chedapalooza said:
Hey truth I bet you'll like this leg day!

Pre lift cardio 1.5 mile run in 10:49 (for police fitness exams) followed by 15 mins of hiit followed by 10 mins of incline walking

Giant set
Reverse bb lunges 4x 95 lbs
bosu ball squats 4xbodyweight
Jumping jacks 25
Rest 30 seconds, repeat

Superset
Leg curl 3x15 (70, 80, 90 lbs) old machines at school, tranSlates to 20 lbs heavier on new smoothe machines at my commercial gym
Leg extension 3x15 (80, 90, 100) see above

Superset
single leg press 3x 15 (3 plates each side)
Calf press 3x20 (3 plates Each side)

Superset
single leg curl- 3x15 (40 lbs)
Single leg ext- 3x15 (40 lbs)

Abs
Weighted decline situp+twists (3x12 for 25 lbs)
Pikes superset with legraises 2 sets of 15 each
Bent over stick twists 2 set of 50 (25 per side)

10 mins cooldown cardio!

And u wonder why I need stims!! Gotta get lean for the cruise.. Start erase, Oep, alphat2, anabeta tomorrow ONTOP of urso.. Oh boy
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Looks good - except for the cardio, for me anyway,we know how I feel about cardio .
 
Sorry no update for yesterday, do to circumstances beyond my control...Yesterday was a workout day off and my diet as you know is pretty constant there were no aberrations yesterday will catch up today back and bi's my favorite so looking for a sick workout this afternoon
 
hey truth, I have been using this for a few weeks now, and all of a sudden, I am getting really hot at night when I am sleeping. I thought it was a one day thing but its not. Also, been sweating alot since taking this. I def look a little leaner, yet the scale stays the same. So far so good..SJ
 
truthornothin said:
Sorry no update for yesterday, do to circumstances beyond my control...Yesterday was a workout day off and my diet as you know is pretty constant there were no aberrations yesterday will catch up today back and bi's my favorite so looking for a sick workout this afternoon
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Nice! hheeh hopefully some good that came up! :D
 
SuppJunkie said:
hey truth, I have been using this for a few weeks now, and all of a sudden, I am getting really hot at night when I am sleeping. I thought it was a one day thing but its not. Also, been sweating alot since taking this. I def look a little leaner, yet the scale stays the same. So far so good..SJ
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Very interesting man, Im glad its working well for you!
 
SuppJunkie said:
hey truth, I have been using this for a few weeks now, and all of a sudden, I am getting really hot at night when I am sleeping. I thought it was a one day thing but its not. Also, been sweating alot since taking this. I def look a little leaner, yet the scale stays the same. So far so good..SJ
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That's the way it started for me, I was melting down at work, and everyone else was complaining how cold it was. The my pants got more and more loose in the waist yet no change in weight. Glad its working for you too
 
mattrag said:
Nice! hheeh hopefully some good that came up! :D
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no internet was down good= two weeks away

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Its not that I hate it........ok I hate it :13:
 
Day 63

Ursobolic
Took 3 caps 3 times over the course of the day

Nutrition:

Breakfast:

4 Whole eggs scrambled
1 low Carb oat bran Flax
8 Oz V-8


Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
43 grams almonds


Afternoon:
50 grams whey protein
43 grams of peanuts


Pre workout/ intra workout:
1 serving Clearshot
1 Serving Xtend

Post Work out:
50 grams whey
30 grams oat starch
1/4 cup peanut butter

Dinner:
1 Turkey Drumstick baked
1 low Josephs oat bran flax low carb pita
2tbsp Famous Dave's Devil's Spit BBQ sauce 10 grams total carbs
150 Grams green beans with olive oil and tomato sauce


Snack:
1 cup Fiber One
1 cup milk
1/2 cup peanut butter

Work Out:

Back and Bi's

Chins: Body Weight
15x1
12x3
10x3
8x3
6x3
5x1
3x1


Nautilus Plate loaded unilateral Pull Down:

135 per side x 12x 3

160 per side x 12 x 3

185 per side x 8 x 2

135 per side x 12 x 1

T-bars:

3 plates 12 x 3
3 plates and a quarter 8 x 3
3 plates x 12

Dumbbell rows :

95 x 8 x 3

Bicep cable unilateral curls: weight is per hand

50x 12 x 2
60 x 12 x 1
70 x 10 x 2
80 x 6 x 3 (I hate to put weights to any stack loaded machine because who knows what the weight really represents ?)

Plate loaded preacher machine:

90 x 10 x 3
100 x 6 x 3
90 x 10 x 1

Cable concentration curls:

50 x 12 x 3

Abs and Done!

Observations: The above workout was foolish considering my weird tricep injury. It didn't hurt at first....if fact I go thru my whole back workout without any pain to speak of. When I was doing the cable curls I should not have done so many. It started to hurt but I had such a pump going that I did not want to stop. About midway through that exercise it started to hurt. I proceeded anyway and added weight. It hurts but still not as badly as initially. I'm leaning out again fast. I am eating a little above maintenance calories right now I am eating a high fat high protein diet I always forget to put the half and half I put in my coffee in my nutrition section.I go through over a half a gallon of half and half a week if that tells you anything That's an extra 2500 calories a week and I also for get to add in all the peanut butter I eat by the spoon full so add another 1000 cals a week and we should be about right. . Outside my injury I felt strong as a Ox. I hate how my endurance has fallen off on my chins as I was doing well over twenty the first couple of sets a few months ago....I will get it back . It fel soooooo good to push and push hard today, even if I was foolish on the curls. I miss working out like that.

GF will be here in less than 2 weeks now. I haven't seen her pretty self in person(thank God for Skype) since September. I want to be good'n lean when she gets here, since last time I saw her I was the leanest I'd ever been in my life.....don't wanna disapoint:)
 
mattrag said:
2 weeks eh? Shred up time!
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Yes, definitely shred up time, the Truth will be hungry and grumpy until then except this Saturday, my last refeed before she arrives I am already planning what I'm gonna eat Pizza haven't had Pizza in over six months maybe a year ....then I'll work from there
 
truthornothin said:
Yes, definitely shred up time, the Truth will be hungry and grumpy until then except this Saturday, my last refeed before she arrives I am already planning what I'm gonna eat Pizza haven't had Pizza in over six months maybe a year ....then I'll work from there
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Haha when she comes is it going to be a cheat week?
 
mattrag said:
Haha when she comes is it going to be a cheat week?
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Oh yeah we both like to cook so when we are together it tends to be a high calorie situation. I intend to introduce her to the joys of Poke ....wait a minute that just sounds wrong lol
 
truthornothin said:
Oh yeah we both like to cook so when we are together it tends to be a high calorie situation. I intend to introduce her to the joys of Poke ....wait a minute that just sounds wrong lol
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OH YES!!! In the kitchen... going be some goodness. Look up "lomi lomi salmon" that's some good stuff too ;)
 
mattrag said:
OH YES!!! In the kitchen... going be some goodness. Look up "lomi lomi salmon" that's some good stuff too ;)
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will do, I like pretty much anything that comes out of the ocean. Totally off topic do know about kava?
 
Day 64

Ursobolic
Took 3 caps 3 times over the course of the day

Nutrition:

Breakfast:

5 Whole eggs scrambled
8 Oz V-8


Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
43 grams almonds


Afternoon:
50 grams whey protein
43 grams of peanuts


Pre workout/ intra workout:

1 Serving Xtend

Post Work out:
50 grams whey
30 grams oat starch
1/4 cup peanut butter

Dinner:
1 Turkey Drumstick baked
2tbsp Famous Dave's Devil's Spit BBQ sauce 10 grams total carbs
8 oz v8


Snack:
1 cup Fiber One
1 cup milk
1/2 cup peanut butter


Work Out:


Chest:

Dumb Bell Incline Bench

60 x 15 x 1
65 x 15 x 1
70 x 15 x 1
75 x 12 x 1
80 x 12 x 3
85 x 12 x 3
90 x 10 x 1

Good Chest pump,pain in the tricep a little worse than my last chest work out but definitely due to yesterdays curling session


FreeMotion chest press,
Did my work up sets and then progressed to working sets, the following numbers are per side.
80 x 20 x 1
90 x 15 x 1
100x15 x 3
120 x 12 x 3
Very good chest pump


Plate loaded incline bench press machine
2 wheels and a quarter per side 4 sets x 12 jumped up to three wheels 3 x 8

I did cable flies 5 x a challenging weight pain in the back of my arm is worse
Did DB overhead presses

50 x 15 x 1
55 x 12 x 1
60 x 8 x 2

Did hammer strength shoulder press

110 x 8 x 2
120 x 8 x 2

Cable Side Laterals:
Challenging weight x 15 x 5

Triceps:
Nose breaker simulator- was feeling good same weight as last time and got 8 reps x 3 dropped back down and got 3 more sets for twelve.

Moved to seated dip machine
270 x 10 x 5
290 x 10 x 3

Cable Push downs, went to the bottom of the stack for eight x 5, good strong tricep work out elbows tweaky but good

worked abs and was done

Observations: The nagging weirdo tricep injury was twinging more than last time would have been an enjoyable workout but for that. was starting to feel like my old self. Damn, I don't want to take another week off(not gonna). Maybe I'm just getting old.
 
Day 64

Ursobolic
Took 3 caps 3 times over the course of the day

Nutrition:

Breakfast: CHEAT AND HOW

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3 eggs

2 monster pancakes(dinner plate size)

2 Cat Head biscuits (wrapped in the paper in the photo, no they are not made of cat in the South we call a big biscuit a cat head biscuit as they are the size of a cats noggin)

4 strips of bacon

gravy

Fried apples

Oh God Did I need a nap after that!!!


Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
43 grams almonds


Afternoon:
50 grams whey protein
43 grams of peanuts

Dinner:Cheat

500 grams of Brunswick stew( meat rich stew so thick you its hard to call it stew
750 grams of rice (carb load)
300 grams of rice pudding

Snack:
1/2 cup peanut butter
1 cup fiber one
30 grams of chocolate

Observations: Workout day off, leg day tomorrow, should really be able to go hard as my glycogen stores should be fully stocked. Its nice to really be able to gorge on cheat day and not worry so much about the damage. Ursobolic really seams to shine In that regard, the suggish feeling is very short lived, and the damage to waist line is minimal. Also I recently noticed I am not having nearly so many depressed days as I usually do when the light starts getting low. I feel pretty upbeat and my mood is good despite my injured state which usually makes me really depressed. Now...not so much.... haven't heard about Ursolic acid elevating mood, anyone else out there have a similar experience?
 
Hey truth , stupid question.. Hoping u can just help me quick..

Difference between Aminos like recover pro and straight whey.. Like in the bodies response..
 
chedapalooza said:
Hey truth , stupid question.. Hoping u can just help me quick..

Difference between Aminos like recover pro and straight whey.. Like in the bodies response..
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Aminos are immediately absorbed not digestion needed protein but be broken down into its subsequent amino acids. BCAA's are not a whole protein, they are supposed to activate certain metabolic pathways, I use them like I use vitamins as a hedge and to insure that my muscles aren't being broken down during a workout
 
mattrag said:
That's a nice meal lol!

I must say you know how to make it count haha!
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I love me some breakfast considering the amount of syrup I put on those pancakes that was probably about as calorie dense as you can get
 
Day 65

Ursobolic
Took 3 caps 3 times over the course of the day

Nutrition:

Breakfast:

5 Whole eggs scrambled
8 Oz V-8
10 cups coffee, 3/4 cup half and half

Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
43 grams almonds


Afternoon:
50 grams whey protein
30 grams of almonds

Pre/ Intra Work out

20 Milliliters of Clearshot

3 Scoops Xtend

Post Work out:
50 grams whey


Dinner:
400 grams Brunswick Stew consist mostly of chicken, with tomatoes, corn, peas and beans Chicken it the main constituent, its almost like chicken pate'

Snack:
1 cup fiber 1
1 cup 2%milk
1/2 cup natty peanut butter



Workout:


Legs:

Squats:
135 x 20 as a warm up
175 x 20 warm up
225 x 20 x 2
275 x 15 x 3
315 x 8 x 5
275 x 12 x 1
225 x 15 x 1

Lunges:
155 x 15 x 5

Leg extensions:

145 x 15 x 1, 155 x 15 x 1, 165 x 12 x 4

Single leg, leg curls:
80x 12 x 1
90 x 12 x 1
100 x 10 x 3
110 x 10 x 1


Calf raises: 5 sets 15 reps

Done

This was a heavy leg day.

Observations:

315 felt the best and easiest it ever had, the first set of 8 seemed easy, the subsequent sets not so much. I was unable to get my 20 reps of 225 that I like to finish with but my legs were fried from the extra 2 sets of 315. I was tired and almost didn't go to the gym and wound up having a great leg work out....go figure. I have 6 days to lean out you will see calories drop to maintenance levels
 
My god.... those squats... CRAZY!

How many sets in total? 2 warm ups, and 10 sets in the 225+ range for like 12-20 reps? Goddamn!!

Good work, 6 days eh? Maintenance levels...haha. Well think of it as 6 day carb cycling lol.
 
mattrag said:
My god.... those squats... CRAZY!

How many sets in total? 2 warm ups, and 10 sets in the 225+ range for like 12-20 reps? Goddamn!!

Good work, 6 days eh? Maintenance levels...haha. Well think of it as 6 day carb cycling lol.
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thanks the calorie load fueled that workout for sure. Carb cycling? Yep that's how I look at it, normally I'd be all excited about the feasting we usually do, but we are both a little banged up. She has strained her bicep and is running at half speed, that funky injury is definitely slowing me down. Right now we both just hope we are gym capable when she gets here, as working out together is one of the things we look forward to, and the passion we both share in that regard is part of what makes our relationship so remarkable
 
truthornothin said:
thanks the calorie load fueled that workout for sure. Carb cycling? Yep that's how I look at it, normally I'd be all excited about the feasting we usually do, but we are both a little banged up. She has strained her bicep and is running at half speed, that funky injury is definitely slowing me down. Right now we both just hope we are gym capable when she gets here, as working out together is one of the things we look forward to, and the passion we both share in that regard is part of what makes our relationship so remarkable
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Thats a very good relationship dynamic there. I have gotten my wife a little more interested in working out and being healthy. She definitely is more interested as now it's not "I don't care", to "Why do you do this? What can I eat/do?"

And she has been experimenting with cooking foods that are more "Physique Friendly" haha.
 
Insane workouts in here :D Glad to see everything is going well bruther :thumbsup:
I dropped down to 9 caps per day about a week ago. Not feeling the same effects but hopefully it will prove itself in the long run since I got 6 weeks left :)
 
mattrag said:
Thats a very good relationship dynamic there. I have gotten my wife a little more interested in working out and being healthy. She definitely is more interested as now it's not "I don't care", to "Why do you do this? What can I eat/do?"

And she has been experimenting with cooking foods that are more "Physique Friendly" haha.
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My gf if probably more into working out than I am. And definitely more concerned about her eating. I have been been with girls that did not understand it and one that forbade me to work out. Definitely better when both people are on the same page. Its nice to have a gf that works out its killer to have one that works out hard. I respect that.
 
ConcreteConny said:
Insane workouts in here :D Glad to see everything is going well bruther :thumbsup:
I dropped down to 9 caps per day about a week ago. Not feeling the same effects but hopefully it will prove itself in the long run since I got 6 weeks left :)
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Thanks man, my upper body workouts have been suffering as of late so I have really been throwing myself into my leg workouts, consequently my legs appear to be growing quickly. Hope the urso does you right at the lower dose and when it the big day?
 
truthornothin said:
My gf if probably more into working out than I am. And definitely more concerned about her eating. I have been been with girls that did not understand it and one that forbade me to work out. Definitely better when both people are on the same page. Its nice to have a gf that works out its killer to have one that works out hard. I respect that.
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You found a good one!

Yea my wife was always down with me lifting though. When we were dating i'd always just bring her out to the gym with me.

Now though, she is more concerned because she wants to look good and be healthy.
 
truthornothin said:
Thanks man, my upper body workouts have been suffering as of late so I have really been throwing myself into my leg workouts, consequently my legs appear to be growing quickly. Hope the urso does you right at the lower dose and when it the big day?
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My legs usually grow like weeds when I focus my energy on them ;)
I'm thinking of bumping the dose back up to 18caps per day. I really liked it at that dose :)

The big day is 11th of February 2012 :D
 
ConcreteConny said:
My legs usually grow like weeds when I focus my energy on them ;)
I'm thinking of bumping the dose back up to 18caps per day. I really liked it at that dose :)

The big day is 11th of February 2012 :D
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congratz man!

About 2 weeks before my wedding party in Hawaii for my family and friends back home ;)
 
Food For Thought

Just throwing this out there, I've had excellent results with Ursobolic to this point as have others, but there have been a few reported non responders. I have always done a fair amount of volume on squats about the same time as starting urso, I really increased my squat volume, actually volume overall. I know I have seen studies that state that High volume squats trigger a huge hgh release and subsequently raise IGF levels. Since Ursobolic acts through IGF expression I think it would it be reasonable to extrapolate that these high volume workouts would increase the effectiveness and results of Ursobolic? And perhaps some that are not responding as well are not working out in such a way as to get the HGH pulse that high volume squats produces? Just thinking out loud. Just curious if Concrete is a fan of the high volume, trying to find a common denominator
 
truthornothin said:
Just throwing this out there, I've had excellent results with Ursobolic to this point as have others, but there have been a few reported non responders. I have always done a fair amount of volume on squats about the same time as starting urso, I really increased my squat volume, actually volume overall. I know I have seen studies that state that High volume squats trigger a huge hgh release and subsequently raise IGF levels. Since Ursobolic acts through IGF expression I think it would it be reasonable to extrapolate that these high volume workouts would increase the effectiveness and results of Ursobolic? And perhaps some that are not responding as well are not working out in such a way as to get the HGH pulse that high volume squats produces? Just thinking out loud. Just curious if Concrete is a fan of the high volume, trying to find a common denominator
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Very interesting take. I know in my thread he suggested 12-20 reps on cycle then to drop them down to 8-10 in PCT so he MIGHT use higher rep ranges during his time off. It is very interesting about this. I have a friend on UA, and he also does high rep squats. He ran UA with slim FX so he noticed an enhanced appetite suppression and a leaning out effect. This month he is dropping the SlimFX so we will see how UA works solo. Said he really feels less bloated though with UA.
 
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