I swear though people in my gym ask me all the time what do you do for your abs and I tell them and they look at me like I'm lying, sometimes they accuse me outright. Usually the ab question is followed by the how my cardio do you do? I say none and they get pissed lolhaha, nice post!
yea TUT, weighted reps, and slow focused movements for the abs. Train the "faster" muscles you will end up using the hips. In judo it's much of the same, Hips for explosiveness, abs for controlled movements.
I swear though people in my gym ask me all the time what do you do for your abs and I tell them and they look at me like I'm lying, sometimes they accuse me outright. Usually the ab question is followed by the how my cardio do you do? I say none and they get pissed lol
ConcreteConny said::toofunny: I would be pissed too if I asked and you told me that :lol:
Yep diet is the cornerstone, I say I do not do cardio, and I do not in the classical sense. I work out with minimal rest between sets. Even when working smaller muscle groups my heart is pounding and I am out of breath because of the intensity and lack of rest. On leg days I sometime throw up for the same reason, the intensity and minimal rest. So I kinda sorta turn my workout into cardio. But ass kicking muscle building cardio, not wussy walking on the treadmill watching the tv cardio :thumbsup:Shows you diet is king.
Its the Truth, God I hate cardio lol:toofunny: I would be pissed too if I asked and you told me that :lol:
Don't delete your account, lol In all seriousness,there is so much misinformation out there it took me a good 20 years to sort through it and find what truly(no pun intended) works, I'm giving you the benefits of my trial and error, mostly error, for free....Unless you'd like to pay me....in which case I take cash lol The secret is to work out smarter and harder but not necessarily more. Thanks for the compliment. Not if I can just get past this injury with physique intact I'll be happyEff that! Would be?! I am pissed! I'm deleting my account! Lol! I'm 25 and you make me look like a chump truth! Strong work!
The Truth About Abs
I learned the truth about abs a long time ago, in a gym in Marietta a real gym a man's gym Cagle's Gym, it smelled like iron rust and blood. It was filled with grunting dedicated beasts serious body builders and power lifters. Not a speck of visible chrome, I was a scrawny 175 pound 23 year old Trying to get big like my hero Arnold, and no clue on how to do it. I was doing endless crunches when this massively ripped dude said What the F' are you doing I said "Abs" He said "****ing no your not, all your working are your Goddamn hip flexors," I had labored for years under the impression that the way to a six pack was lots and lots of crunches sit ups and leg raises. I had a line down the center of my stomach so I had a two pack. He told me that I was never going to get ripped abs like that He told me to look at the Guiness Book of World Records and look at the word record holder for sit ups. Next time I was at the Mall I did just that and was amazed the guy could do like 2000 sit ups and had a jelly belly. I went back to the gym and asked for his help and this is when I learned the truth about abs and why almost everyone works them the wrong way.
Your abs are like any other muscle, they work hard all day holding up your torso and holding in your guts. So to get them to grow you have to challenge them. But even that is not the key. Even fat guys have abs you just cant see them. Every one reading this has same thing. You have to cut the fat to see the abs. Endless ab work is not going give you visible abs its very poor at fat burning so don't do it. Work large muscle groups intensely that burns fat. Diet, you won't ever see your abs if you don't have a good diet, gotta get the body fat in the very low double digits leaning into the singles. That is step one. Now the much sought after and vaunted Truth's Ab program, Hold onto your jock cuz' your gonna be shocked here it comes.
1 Decline ab chair/bench(in my early bb days they called it a roman chair,
Sets = 2 yes that's right 2 x failure
2. Ab coaster 2 sets to failure each side if you do not have an ab coaster I do oblique crunches on the ab ball 2 sets to failure both sides
That's it take 4- 5 minutes and you've seen my abs it works and I only do this routine 3-4 times a week tops
Now there will be a lot of doubters but I swear to God that's all I do.
Ok.... but this is how I do those sets, On the ab bench, put a foam block under the leg end to make the angle as steep as possible.
I go very slow, the tendency is to go fast and furious with plenty of momentum. I use no momentum, Very slow. The other tendency is to use your hip flexors to pull your body up and your body comes up straight. When you are coming up think about driving your ribs into your abs Curl your body into as much of an arc as you can, and when you get to the top, unroll down as slow as your rolled up. If your can do more than 30 you are not going slow enough, at the end of your second set they will be burning like fire.
On the ab coaster, people that just go fast and furious get nothing out of that, I turn it to the side, as I use it to work the obliques, Same thing slow up and hold it, slow down, the switch sides and do the same for the other side. I load it with 3 ten pounders a side. If you do not have access any machine you can set for the obliques will work, just use enough weight to make it challenging at 20 reps and go as slow as possible. The total routine if you can call it that is five minutes. In the summer I do a set of hanging leg raises, again slow and controlled just to get the "money maker a little more chiseled.
I know you are disappointed but you shouldn't be, look at all the time I'm saving you. Remember its time under tension that builds muscles, you want added resistance and you want added time. Your abs receive work all day over training them only stunts the growth. Actually let me lay to rest a little misconception. The abs are really a sheet of muscle, the cuts you see are caused by tendons that lay across the sheet and the sheet bulges around the tendons giving the impression of separate muscles. You want the muscle to grow so it will bulge around the tendons more. What builds muscle size? endless reps and sets? No just like other muscles fewer more intense sets with higher weight gives maximum growth, just like a bicep.
So there you go, my closely guarded secret just cuz' I like you guys. lol
Any questions feel free
Glad the log helped, there is a lot of good information in here, also make sure to take the Ursobolic with a good about of fat 6-12 grams
Yep diet is the cornerstone, I say I do not do cardio, and I do not in the classical sense. I work out with minimal rest between sets. Even when working smaller muscle groups my heart is pounding and I am out of breath because of the intensity and lack of rest. On leg days I sometime throw up for the same reason, the intensity and minimal rest. So I kinda sorta turn my workout into cardio. But ass kicking muscle building cardio, not wussy walking on the treadmill watching the tv cardio :thumbsup:
I'm starting at 6/day and may up it after a week if I don't notice a difference. Why would the bottle recommend 3-6/day if it seems that you need to dose 6-12+ to yield results? That high dosage doesn't yield long product duration lol.
patrick arnold, the maker of the supplement, said that it should be dosed really high. And that bigger dose bottles would be released in the future.
He suggested 9 caps here on the forum i believe. He himself dosed it via the powder and just shot the stuff as much as he wanted.
Fobra said:Did Pat specify an ETA on bigger bottle by any chance?
Thanks G you made me blush, Kickyoasschic, is pretty BADASS herself. Nice to have the locals chiming in, she is the workout partner I mentioned earlier in the log nice to have you following along GSo I must tell you all, I actually workout at the same gym as Truth and I can attest to the fact that he really does do ONLY 5 MINUTES of abs!!! CRAZY! I was jealous at first, cause I used to be one of those people that did abs every day for like 15 minutes, but he demonstrated to me all of his secrets and you know what THEY WORK!!! Focusing on the contraction of the abs while performing the exercise is really the most important thing. Fast, jerky movements just don't work for abs. Listen to what this man has to say and I promise you will see results! Btw, in case you were unaware, TRUTH is BADASS. I call him Superman! He works out so much harder than the rest of them wannabe bodybuilders in the gym and he can pretty much answer any question related to working out that you want to know. Intelligent mofo.
he said he believed about a gram early on then 9 caps a day there afterpatrick arnold, the maker of the supplement, said that it should be dosed really high. And that bigger dose bottles would be released in the future.
He suggested 9 caps here on the forum i believe. He himself dosed it via the powder and just shot the stuff as much as he wanted.
per pat once the current batch is gone then the bigger bottles will be out no eta howeverDid Pat specify an ETA on bigger bottle by any chance?
people will think you are bigger. Every time I cut people tell me I look bigger,come on man ....embrace the lean lolI was on a strength program... but now I might have to lower the intensity a bit cause my goals switched to cut... MrKleen (a poster here) put up a challenge to unwrap your abs by xmas... Im thinking I want abs more than I want to be huge now... Well more like I like competition and this seems like a good thing. My urso should be ordered by black friday and added to my stack for the ending 3-4 weeks. Probably continue it all the way into the new year... maybe my goal will be to hit Hawaii shredded in february....? Hehe...but if I cut down now I think at around 9% bf Ill be around 175lbs... im gonna be so small.. I like being at least 185+
truthornothin said:people will think you are bigger. Every time I cut people tell me I look bigger,come on man ....embrace the lean lol
I hear you brother, me either, this Injury sux, gonna have to reduce food intake. I did work out, one sided and will make my nightly post here shortly.I just don't like the idea of eating less. Lol
truthornothin said:per pat once the current batch is gone then the bigger bottles will be out no eta however
chedapalooza said:Guess we gotta buy it all up now to make room for the big bottles.
Scivation and yes there is a a good reason, I got it dirt cheap lol. Until PA brings GF PRO Blueberry back my two main factors in protein purchase is number one, price, number two, taste. GF Pro was so delicious it made me overlook the price partHaha. Let's hope pat likes cake!!
Looking big eh? Tomorrow I'm starting the truth diet. well as best I can. No whey protein yet. Out of curiosity what brand do you use? Any reasoning?
Scivation and yes there is a a good reason, I got it dirt cheap lol. Until PA brings GF PRO Blueberry back my two main factors in protein purchase is number one, price, number two, taste. GF Pro was so delicious it made me overlook the price part![]()
It is exactly the same, the chocolate and the vanilla are both delishOH HEY!! Scivation is my fav protein as well!!! haha.
OOS though.. Im gonna try smart powders. I hear they are pretty much the same (relabelling)
your snow storm made my job miserable today, had to work my ass off, making sure your service stations can still pump gas10 inches of snow, no power. Good thing I got my urso.. Cheat week??! Ugh
truthornothin said:your snow storm made my job miserable today, had to work my ass off, making sure your service stations can still pump gas
Sorry dude I can shut down or re enable a service station remotely with a few deft key strokes but I cannot help you with the gym. Our servers are located in Simsbury and they were down today so I feel ya'Why don't u see if u can
Get my gym to open tomorrow! Fcuk!!!!
I keep sayin' I'm gonna back down the calories a bit...but why should I?? I will though I get paranoid when I cannot fully workout. I can feel my love handles growing lolHey hey, I eat "clean" as well. And do just multiply my clean food intake as well. just our definition of clean might be a bit different. Though from today I'm back on the diet train. So I am going to be eating a bit less. And I'm going to weigh and measure EVERYTHING again. I thought I could say goodbye to the life of weighing and planning out every day... but I wanna get lean so it's happening. haha.
BTW, any other supps you recommend for a cut/health? Gonna upload some pics tonight (I hope) in my log, and will be running an 8 week all out cut... (xmas date is the target), then continue to cut till I go home in february. Look great, then eat!!! hahah
I keep sayin' I'm gonna back down the calories a bit...but why should I?? I will though I get paranoid when I cannot fully workout. I can feel my love handles growing lol
Shoulder is feeling better, makes me think that it is badly strained and not torn. I am still gonna rest it for at least two weeks, the only work out that it affects to the point of making it no fun is back and bi's. I can work my bi's pretty well if the backs of my arm is supported. chest I can work with machines. Triceps too. Back thanks to the unilateral machines I can get a good one sided back work out but the left..... oh well. I'm not gonna complain it could be worse.Yea im sure thats why none of my bulks last longer than 4 weeks... I feel the fat coming on too and I get worried... hell im looking pretty plump now... though I think a lot of it is water retention from the transdermal DHEA but... but hey with that extra help I should be able to recover while being in a calorie deficit.
Hows the shoulder feeling? Better?
Glad to have you on board. Central East Cost, I'm in North Carolina, It doesn't get much more central. So are you a Carolinian too? Your plan sounds on track. This log will be running for a while. Thanks again for the interest.Wow, I just got done reading all 22 pages. All I can say is SUBBED. This has been a very interesting log thus far. I am presently taking Anebeta, Phytoserms 347 and DAA. This sounds like it woulb be a very nice addition to my stack, esp at nine caps a day. I am running this cycle for 8 weeks and I am only five days in, so it would be perfect to get this and add it in now while I can. Awesome..I will continue to follow and look forward to even more results..SJ
Glad to have you on board. Central East Cost, I'm in North Carolina, It doesn't get much more central. So are you a Carolinian too? Your plan sounds on track. This log will be running for a while. Thanks again for the interest.
Thank you sir, glad to have you on board the more the merrier. Working on tonight's entry nowMan I am super late to the show. But after reading this whole thing my goodness. Very nice work....
:yo: just started dude
4 bottles -18per day for now
maintenence cals no cardio
will report anythin good or bad
I have only minimal appetite suppression like you said every ones body is different. Sorry you didn't see the results you wantedUpdate for me: At this point, I'm stopping use of ursobolic after 2.5 weeks at 9 caps per day. I have nearly 100% appetite suppression, which I find weird and disturbing. And I've seen no actual reduction in waist fat or any increase in muscle. I've kept my diet as it has always been (which is good, no processed food, fruits/vegetables and grains, and limited meat, with lots of nuts, eggs, and chia seed pudding) and workouts have been pretty good.. So, maybe just not working for me (we are all different biochemically). I just really do not like the appetite suppression issue...just does not seem normal to me.