Trusted Brands...

[R1balla]

They do as far as I am aware. I know I used a bottle earlier this year. Great product - was my first favourite, actually.

~Rosie~

Me and u both have always seen eye to eye with IGF2

Wish orbit carried it!

 

[fightbackhxc]

Me and u both have always seen eye to eye with IGF2

Wish orbit carried it!

If you cannot find it look into SNS growth factor xt. I think you'll find its a great product.

 

[R1balla]

If you cannot find it look into SNS growth factor xt. I think you'll find its a great product.

I've tried everything. Keep coming back to IGF2.

 

[bdcc]

You're most welcome!! PES deserves all of the mentions they got, get and will get...You're no doubt one of my most trusted brands for serious bodybuilding supplements. You guys do a great job, can't wait to see what you guys have up your sleeves.

Thank you. This is very kind.

ETA on new Select flavors?

Our release time line will be;
- High Volume (due shortly)
- New flavour of Select
- New flavour of Alphamine

I am not sure which of the new flavours will come first. I would have a hunch that it will be Select.

 

[LiveToLift]

Thank you. This is very kind. Our release time line will be; - High Volume (due shortly) - New flavour of Select - New flavour of Alphamine I am not sure which of the new flavours will come first. I would have a hunch that it will be Select.

Oh boy. I didn't even know the order of the releases. Exciting news!

 

[BPjohn123]

Appreciate all the PES support everyone!

 

[The Solution]

Ben said on another forum they are making high volume samples
this true?

 

[LiveToLift]

Ben said on another forum they are making high volume samples this true?

Indeed we are Bob.

Not entirely sure how many but there has been talk on it.

 

[The Solution]

Indeed we are Bob.

Not entirely sure how many but there has been talk on it.

if you need another review! You got one here!

 

[bolt10]

Ben said on another forum they are making high volume samples
this true?

No Ben is a liar who only likes to get people's feelings up only to shoot them down!




Ya there will be samples, but the previous statement is still true.

 

[BigGame84]

E-Pharm/Prototype Nutrition
Evomuse
Antaeus Labs
Celtic Labs
Iron Legion
MTS
Xtreme Formulations
Purus Labs

 

[abformulations]

Damn but OL fu*cked up lol. Look at the bottom. Wrote "what are you writing for" instead of waiting lol.

 

[kisaj]

Probably because of all the lengthy threads that (-)-epi causes. LOL

 

[abformulations]

Probably because of all the lengthy threads that (-)-epi causes. LOL

Lmao! Word.

Hey OL I want another bottle asap! Lol Jp.

 

[flightposite]

A lot of good trusted companies TBH.
and without mentioning the company I rep for which I obviously trust.

Controlled Labs
Omega Sports
IForce
LG
Appnut
Millennium
Black Lion Research (Brundel is a great guy)
OL
Forerunner Labs
E-Pharm/Prototype Nutrition
Evomuse
Antaeus Labs
Celtic Labs

just off the top of my head.

 

[tybolton]

A lot of good trusted companies TBH.
and without mentioning the company I rep for which I obviously trust.

Controlled Labs
Omega Sports
IForce
LG
Appnut
Millennium
Black Lion Research (Brundel is a great guy)
OL
Forerunner Labs
E-Pharm/Prototype Nutrition
Evomuse
Antaeus Labs
Celtic Labs

just off the top of my head.

Can't go wrong with either one of these brands....nice list!!

 

[Spaniard]

Damn but OL fu*cked up lol. Look at the bottom. Wrote "what are you writing for" instead of waiting lol.

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Some of the ink likely rubbed off on yours, which can happen with that type of print. They indeed say "What are you waiting for"... I zoomed in on yours quite a bit and it also looks like an A.

Compare the R in the "Are" to the A, they look similar but it's an A. Looks like you messed up hahaha.

Send me a bottle lol

Jp

 

[abformulations]

Some of the ink likely rubbed off on yours, which can happen with that type of print. They indeed say "What are you waiting for"... I zoomed in on yours quite a bit and it also looks like an A. Compare the R in the "Are" to the A, they look similar but it's an A. Looks like you ****** up hahaha. Send me a bottle lol Jp

Lmao!

 

[kBrown]

I trust mr supps and iron mag

 

[Rosie Chee]

Me and u both have always seen eye to eye with IGF2

Wish orbit carried it!

Yeppers. That, Drive, and Lipotrophin-PM is what started my AppNut love and support to begin with - still no products that beat them re their particular effects, IMO

If you cannot find it look into SNS growth factor xt. I think you'll find its a great product.

Completely different leagues, bud.

~Rosie~

 

[fightbackhxc]

Yeppers. That, Drive, and Lipotrophin-PM is what started my AppNut love and support to begin with - still no products that beat them re their particular effects, IMO

Completely different leagues, bud.

~Rosie~

In what ways? I mean they boast the same function similar ingredients but also some differences. Proprietary blend versus non proprietary blend. I've never taken IGF2. Have you tried both?

 

[Rosie Chee]

In what ways? I mean they boast the same function similar ingredients but also some differences. Proprietary blend versus non proprietary blend. I've never taken IGF2. Have you tried both?

Yes. I have used many natural Growth Hormone boosters. There is a reason I always recommend IGF-2. That said, everyone is different and IGF-2 is actually the ONLY one that has ever worked WITH my body.

~Rosie~

 

[BigBlackGuy]

E-Pharm/Prototype Nutrition
Evomuse
Antaeus Labs
Celtic Labs
Iron Legion
MTS
Xtreme Formulations
Purus Labs

A damn good list. Though I haven't used Evomuse products.

 

[fightbackhxc]

Yes. I have used many natural Growth Hormone boosters. There is a reason I always recommend IGF-2. That said, everyone is different and IGF-2 is actually the ONLY one that has ever worked WITH my body.

~Rosie~

I've always meant to try it since I'm a big fan of those ingredients but I've never gotten around to it. Thanks rosie,

 

[AaronJP1]

Before I make a new thread, figured I'd post these questions here:

In response to safety concerns I'm curious...

Are there any supplements you don't think are safe?
Any companies that you don't think are safe?
What about the safety of the industry as a whole?
How do people feel out there when a company releases a product that's deemed not to be safe?
Would you purchase from that company again?

 

[snagencyV2.0]

Before I make a new thread, figured I'd post these questions here:

In response to safety concerns I'm curious...

Are there any supplements you don't think are safe?
Any companies that you don't think are safe?
What about the safety of the industry as a whole?
How do people feel out there when a company releases a product that's deemed not to be safe?
Would you purchase from that company again?

isn't that the same thing as talking about "least reputable" companies, which you couldn't condone earlier?

is this thread going to follow with "least reputable companies," or that just unsportsmanlike conduct?

I can't condone that.

 

[AaronJP1]

isn't that the same thing as talking about "least reputable" companies, which you couldn't condone earlier?

How about this...
I condone it now. :bigok:

The point of my question is some companies may appear to have a solid reputation in one persons eyes & not the others, so don't get me wrong it's not to meant to be a company bashing session, just a general topic of discussion with relative points.

 

[Spaniard]

Pandora's box hahaha

 

[snagencyV2.0]

The point of my question is some companies may appear to have a solid reputation in one persons eyes & not the others, so don't get me wrong it's not to meant to be a company bashing session, just a general topic of discussion with relative points.

fair enough
I can understand the generic purpose of such discussion, but in reality I see that playing out in a very bad way, an immense sh1tstorm..
not much educational, and a whole lot of potential agendized bias from consumers let alone any company stance (since reps are indeed participating in this thread topic/discussion)

 

[R1balla]

Yes. I have used many natural Growth Hormone boosters. There is a reason I always recommend IGF-2. That said, everyone is different and IGF-2 is actually the ONLY one that has ever worked WITH my body.

~Rosie~

Yeah IGF2 is the only one I will use

 

[Johnold]

What IS the deal with APPNUT?

You never see anything about that company.

Why are they so overall quiet? Usually?

I've always wanted to give I-GF2 a shot but always held off. APPNUT has me up and down on wanting to try them.

What about them being considered trusted?

 

[jimbuick]

What IS the deal with APPNUT?

You never see anything about that company.

Why are they so overall quiet? Usually?

I've always wanted to give I-GF2 a shot but always held off. APPNUT has me up and down on wanting to try them.

What about them being considered trusted?

They just don't have reps on this board anymore.

I've always been a big fan of AppNut, but they focus much more on other boards (BB.com specifically). Which sucks, because that forum sucks lol.

I think they've been doing a lot of reformulating too, so I don't know how much personal experience I have with their products anymore. All I know is that Free Test, IGF-2, N.O. Uptake, Drive, and Uncut all treated me very well every time I used any of them.

 

[blacklac]

Apparently App Nut is replacing Uncut with a new Pre. Guess it didn't sell well. Think its called NOvate.



I think they also just recently updated their test boosters.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy App Nut products.

 

[jimbuick]

Apparently App Nut is replacing Uncut with a new Pre. Guess it didn't sell well. Think its called NOvate.

I think they also just recently updated their test boosters.

I wouldn't hesitate to buy App Nut products.

That's upsetting, I love uncut as a preworkout.

Are you sure? I heard they replaced the N.O. uptake earlier this year. And updated free test right?

 

[blacklac]

Yeah, Free Test XRT. Beta Test seems newish. Can't be too old, with Amentoflavone. .

Actually, Fat Free PM looks new as well. And a few bulk ingredients. Kinda looks like alot if new stuff recently.

 

[The Solution]

Apparently App Nut is replacing Uncut with a new Pre. .

This is correct.

 

[MARK_]

This has been a great thread. Especially for a new comer like myself. I appreciate the input from different people and this will provide me with some guidance in future purchases. Thanks to all who have participated.

 

[brindlemax]

I trust PES,Evomuse,BPS and Iforce. 90% of what I use is PES.

 

[Johnold]

I see that APPNUT has been busy reformulating etc. Which is good. Just seemed like they were in the dark there for a minute.

I'd like the give Hemavol a shot again from IForce.

Looking for a nonstim preW.

So far it's PES High Volume, MAN Sports NooPump, IForce Hemavol.

I wish FinaFlex would make something like this.

I REALLY need to lay off stims for a while.

But don't want to stop using PreWorkouts.

 

[Danes]

I see that APPNUT has been busy reformulating etc. Which is good. Just seemed like they were in the dark there for a minute.

I'd like the give Hemavol a shot again from IForce.

Looking for a nonstim preW.

So far it's PES High Volume, MAN Sports NooPump, IForce Hemavol.

I wish FinaFlex would make something like this.

I REALLY need to lay off stims for a while.

But don't want to stop using PreWorkouts.

I was BIG fan of hemavol until i tried Komodo VasKular(non stim) 1 scoop, just one scoop of VasKular and BAM! i used 3 scoops of Hemavol..

 

[The Solution]

1.5g of agmatine
7.5g Citrulline malate
3g of Glycerol

and you felt no pump? Wow..... thats ridiculous.

were you drinking enough water for the hemavol?

Vaskular in 1 scoop has less CM, Agmatine and Glycerol than 3 scoops of Hemavol

Interesting...

 

[Danes]

1.5g of agmatine
7.5g Citrulline malate
3g of Glycerol

and you felt no pump? Wow..... thats ridiculous.

were you drinking enough water for the hemavol?

Vaskular in 1 scoop has less CM, Agmatine and Glycerol than 3 scoops of Hemavol

Interesting...

I didnt say "i felt no pump"not at all.
1 scoop was ok , 2 scoops was great but 3 was fantastic.

1 scoop komodo vasKular gives me sick pumps and i bet if i take 2 scoops i could barely workout lol..

that would be:
6g citrulline
5g hydra vask glycerol
500mg ArA
2g agmatine

Honestly, i feel more pump from 1 scoop of VasKular than 3 scoops of Hemavol.
It could be other ingredients added such as ArA, grape seed extract..

Dont forget, vasKular has Hydra Vask Glycerol (2.5g) in one scoop. Agmatine as agmapure ...

 

[Danes]

were you drinking enough water for the hemavol

Same as i did with Vaskular. 6dl

 

[bb333]

Currently my instinct tells me to trust:

PES
Now Foods
Molecular Nutrition

I trust who is behind, and their quality products.

Surely the sponsors have contributed to my final choice
Besides the fact of having tried their good supplements.

Then there would be other brands, but it is still too early to give a final judgement.

To give an example,
There are some products of the SAN, or Gaspari, which I like, and still others from other manufacturers.
I take as an example the-Load of Prosupp,
a product that has worked fine, compared to other super appointed gda
but it is still early to deserve the label of "favorite brand".

Let's say that each brand has their flagship product,
but that doesn't mean they are the best around.

Even here in Italy we have reliable brands, with first quality materials,
but here we're talking about basic integration.

Sorry for the English ... google-_-

 

[bdcc]

I trust PES,Evomuse,BPS and Iforce. 90% of what I use is PES.

Thank you for your support.

I was BIG fan of hemavol until i tried Komodo VasKular(non stim) 1 scoop, just one scoop of VasKular and BAM! i used 3 scoops of Hemavol..

Looking forward to seeing your High Volume review.

 

[Johnold]

I've been hearing a lot about this Komodo brand and their VasKular PreWorkout product.

I went to take a look at their ingredient list for that PreW and honestly was shocked to see ARA in it.

I asked myself way back why nobody put ARA in a PreW or some other product can could benefit from the inclusion of ARA.

No wonder people are blowing up on 1 true scoop.

 

[Danes]

Looking forward to seeing your High Volume review.

Looking forward to try it

 

[Danes]

I've been hearing a lot about this Komodo brand and their VasKular PreWorkout product.

I went to take a look at their ingredient list for that PreW and honestly was shocked to see ARA in it.

I asked myself way back why nobody put ARA in a PreW or some other product can could benefit from the inclusion of ARA.

No wonder people are blowing up on 1 true scoop.

Its an amazing product !

 

[R1balla]

never been a fan of Drive. actually hated it (for the price). But huge fan of IGF 2, Free Test and Lit up

 

[xhrr]

never been a fan of Drive. actually hated it (for the price). But huge fan of IGF 2, Free Test and Lit up

Weird, I loved drive personally. Dose it at 8 a day though so it does get pricey.